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Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by urahara(m): 10:20pm On Aug 28, 2017
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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by CoolUsername: 10:31pm On Aug 28, 2017
Poverty and illiteracy can be a potent cocktail for creating evil, especially when combined with combined superstition and religious indoctrination.

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by hopefulLandlord: 10:45pm On Aug 28, 2017
There's a similar thread here https://www.nairaland.com/3863160/blood-money-learn-me-human


you can check this post https://www.nairaland.com/3863160/blood-money-learn-me-human#57545310 for an answer to a question similar to yours
Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by Ranchhoddas: 11:04pm On Aug 28, 2017
I am gradually starting to consider the plausibility of some things. You do not know that they do not work.
Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by Ken4Christ: 11:58pm On Aug 28, 2017
Some do work but quite a few ritualist use it to scam gullible souls.
Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by obinna58(m): 1:11am On Aug 29, 2017
Beliefs, they believed that human parts can be used in making money just as you believed that a man up in the sky is saving you

Ritual exist, it is because of religion, trading human parts to the one true God so that he can hear your prayer

Jesus for example
Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by Martinez19(m): 1:18am On Aug 29, 2017
The same reason people kill others in the name of a God that doesn't exist.

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by obinna58(m): 1:30am On Aug 29, 2017
Beliefs, they believed that human parts can be used in making money just as you believed that a man up in the sky is saving you

Ritual exist is because of religion

Jesus as an example, he was sacrificed by his father to take your sins away wink
Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by dalaman: 1:31am On Aug 29, 2017
Same reasons people rape virgins believing it will cure them of aids. Same reason people strap bombs on themselves and go on suicide missions believing they will go to paradise and enjoy heavenly virgins.

Those that actually sell the human parts make money from them. A human head is sold for as high as 1 million naira according to some reports others sell it for far less but people by the parts there by making others rich in the process. That act alone will see to it that the business and act continues.

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by urahara(m): 1:50am On Aug 29, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
There's a similar thread here https://www.nairaland.com/3863160/blood-money-learn-me-human


you can check this post https://www.nairaland.com/3863160/blood-money-learn-me-human#57545310 for an answer to a question similar to yours

Thank u very much

Very enlightening thread smiley
Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by Amberon11: 6:24am On Aug 29, 2017
Didnt we see a thread of a young guinean doing rituals for money which works for him? It works for some and don't work for others. There is a man my father used to know. His wife did money rituals for her husband to become wealthy. He did become wealthy but something happened, she stopped the regular sacrifices and all the wealth went away.

Now the thing is this, money rituals is not a one time thing. You cannot make a bargain with the devil. He will always want more. That's why the bible says "the blessings of the Lord maketh rich and added no sorrows" -emphasis on the bolded. The devil can give you wealth, fame etc but there is a price to pay. You must renew sacrifices either weekly, monthly or annually and he would begin to ask for things which you cannot give.

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by 0temAtum: 6:44am On Aug 29, 2017
The question you should ask is, what are they actually doing with the organs of human bodies? Are they actually using it for rituals to the gods or spirits? The answer is no to a greater extent. There are rich people in the world who are cannibals. There are those who smuggle human organs to some organisations in developed countries for research works. They all use money rituals for cover up whereas they are actually going to sell those organs at huge amount of money to our money-drunk power intoxicated rich cannibalistic politicians and their likes. If you know what is going on deep in this country and others, you will open your mouth and linger to close it.

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by omohayek: 7:26am On Aug 29, 2017
Amberon11:
Didnt we see a thread of a young guinean doing rituals for money which works for him? It works for some and don't work for others. There is a man my father used to know. His wife did money rituals for her husband to become wealthy. He did become wealthy but something happened, she stopped the regular sacrifices and all the wealth went away.
And how do you know this same man wouldn't have become wealthy without the aid of his wife's "money rituals"? How do you know that it wasn't just a placebo effect he experienced, which would have worked just as well if his wife said she carried out "money rituals" but actually lied about doing so?

What you've just committed here is the logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc, a fallacy superstitious Nigerians are particularly prone to. Just because two things are associated doesn't mean there's any sort of causal link between them; "money rituals" are nothing but barbaric nonsense.

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by hopefulLandlord: 7:55am On Aug 29, 2017
omohayek:

And how do you know this same man wouldn't have become wealthy without the aid of his wife's "money rituals"? How do you know that it wasn't just a placebo effect he experienced, which would have worked just as well if his wife said she carried out "money rituals" but actually lied about doing so?

What you've just committed here is the logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc, a fallacy superstitious Nigerians are particularly prone to. Just because two things are associated doesn't mean there's any sort of causal link between them; "money rituals" are nothing but barbaric nonsense.
I do agree with everything you said, except the "Nigerians are particularly prone to" part, all humans are prone to committing such fallacy regardless of nationality since our brain always go on overdrive in order to make sense out of things, so we end up pulling two probably unrelated terms and joining them; news sites all over the world take advantage of this in their headings eg "Iowa youth shoots 4 people dead after playing Grand Theft Auto", one may then research on the reason for the killing and realise GTA wasn't actually the reason for the killing at all but something totally different

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by omohayek: 8:04am On Aug 29, 2017
hopefulLandlord:

I do agree with everything you said, except the "Nigerians are particularly prone to" part, all humans are prone to committing such fallacies regardless of nationality since our brain always go on overdrive in order to make sense out of things, so we end up pulling two probably unrelated terms and joining them
Certainly, all human beings are prone to such fallacies, but I think there is a great deal of evidence that sub-Saharan Africans are particularly likely to fall victim to such errors at present, as in other parts of the world the scientific revolution and enlightenment thinking have been effective in educating large segments of their populations to be careful about falling prey to fallacies of association: the average European or East Asian takes it for granted that incredible claims need statistical verification and experimental study, where the majority of even "university educated" Nigerians would never think to ask for such, and have no qualms blaming their "village people" for their misfortunes, or wasting entire Sundays listening to some "prosperity gospel" charlatan or other dangling promises of instant, effortless wealth before them.

There is nothing innate in the minds of black Africans to make them this way - medieval Europeans were just as bad - but let's be honest with ourselves and admit that people south of the Sahara are currently more credulous and prone to illogical thinking than is the case in many other parts of the globe.

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by hahn(m): 8:28am On Aug 29, 2017
Amberon11:
Didnt we see a thread of a young guinean doing rituals for money which works for him? It works for some and don't work for others. There is a man my father used to know. His wife did money rituals for her husband to become wealthy. He did become wealthy but something happened, she stopped the regular sacrifices and all the wealth went away.

Now the thing is this, money rituals is not a one time thing. You cannot make a bargain with the devil. He will always want more. That's why the bible says "the blessings of the Lord maketh rich and added no sorrows" -emphasis on the bolded. The devil can give you wealth, fame etc but there is a price to pay. You must renew sacrifices either weekly, monthly or annually and he would begin to ask for things which you cannot give.


Chai. What an ignorant post

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by Amberon11: 9:42am On Aug 29, 2017
Learn to counter with superior arguments and not with mere wishful uncertainties. The bolded- all uncertainties. That's like saying how do we know Mark Zukerberg wouldn't have become a billionaire if he didn't create Facebook.


Your problem is not a new one. Delving into conclusions on issues you remotely have no idea of. There are numerous people who have done money rituals and have proof of it. I won't go back and forth on this issue.

omohayek:

And how do you know this same man wouldn't have become wealthy without the aid of his wife's "money rituals"? How do you know that it wasn't just a placebo effect he experienced, which would have worked just as well if his wife said she carried out "money rituals" but actually lied about doing so?

What you've just committed here is the logical fallacy called post hoc, ergo propter hoc, a fallacy superstitious Nigerians are particularly prone to. Just because two things are associated doesn't mean there's any sort of causal link between them; "money rituals" are nothing but barbaric nonsense.
Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by omohayek: 10:20am On Aug 29, 2017
The audacity of someone who can't tell the difference between correlation and causation presuming to lecture others on logical argument! What the h*ll is a "wishful uncertainty"?

You are a living embodiment of what I mean when I say that even the majority of "educated" Nigerians haven't really experienced anything truly worthy of the term, as otherwise you wouldn't be so quick to further reveal the extent of your ignorance by spouting pseudo-erudition when challenged on committing a clear cut logical fallacy. You'd have realised as much if you weren't suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect, which renders ignorance like yours impervious to correction.

Amberon11:
Learn to counter with superior arguments and not with mere wishful uncertainties. The bolded- all uncertainties. That's like saying how do we know Mark Zukerberg wouldn't have become a billionaire if he didn't create Facebook.


Your problem is not a new one. Delving into conclusions on issues you remotely have no idea of. There are numerous people who have done money rituals and have proof of it. I won't go back and forth on this issue.

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Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by CAPSLOCKED: 2:08pm On Aug 29, 2017
FALSE TESTIMONIES AND ASSERTATIONS, I GUESS. undecided
Re: Why Do People Still Kill People For Rituals If They Don't Work ? by hopefulLandlord: 2:38pm On Aug 29, 2017
omohayek:

Certainly, all human beings are prone to such fallacies, but I think there is a great deal of evidence that sub-Saharan Africans are particularly likely to fall victim to such errors at present, as in other parts of the world the scientific revolution and enlightenment thinking have been effective in educating large segments of their populations to be careful about falling prey to fallacies of association: the average European or East Asian takes it for granted that incredible claims need statistical verification and experimental study, where the majority of even "university educated" Nigerians would never think to ask for such, and have no qualms blaming their "village people" for their misfortunes, or wasting entire Sundays listening to some "prosperity gospel" charlatan or other dangling promises of instant, effortless wealth before them.

There is nothing innate in the minds of black Africans to make them this way - medieval Europeans were just as bad - but let's be honest with ourselves and admit that people south of the Sahara are currently more credulous and prone to illogical thinking than is the case in many other parts of the globe.

fair enough

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