Empiree:
so what unless you want to reject ayah of Quran and hadith which talks about abundance of dhikr. What's your point

The aayah said do lots of dhikr, it didn't ask yo to restrict yoursellf to a certain number or place or way.

In shaaa Allah i'll create another thread to expalin this issue. Sufis just seem to ignore or be ignorant of this concept.

Newnas:


The aayah said do lots of dhikr, it didn't ask yo to restrict yoursellf to a certain number or place or way.

In shaaa Allah i'll create another thread to expalin this issue. Sufis just seem to ignore or be ignorant of this concept.

Pls do. Even lots of dhirkl Quran mentioned, you dont do it. And at the end of the day, no matter how much you do, you still end up with certain numbers. So whats the point. It is sufis that do lots of dhikr not you

As you guys named/naming/names Jabata nad spread his falsehood, it is also from justice to clarify the status of "Dr" that spent 10, 15 + yrs in Saudi and other places, then came back to Nigeria to spread the Methodology of Muslim BrotherHood.
Unless u guys do this, U can't claim Atharee, Salafee ...!
U can't be condeming a Haddadee the leave off the Al-Ikhwaanul Muslimoon. Because these "dr" are known to be worse than the Haddadee لمن تأمل ودقق وعلم وفهم

Expecting a +ve response soon!

Hibrahym:
As you guys named/naming/names Jabata nad spread his falsehood, it is also from justice to clarify the status of "Dr" that spent 10, 15 + yrs in Saudi and other places, then came back to Nigeria to spread the Methodology of Muslim BrotherHood.
Unless u guys do this, U can't claim Atharee, Salafee ...!
U can't be condeming a Haddadee the leave off the Al-Ikhwaanul Muslimoon. Because these "dr" are known to be worse than the Haddadee لمن تأمل ودقق وعلم وفهم

Expecting a +ve response soon!

Na'am.... The most obvious of them is Dr Alaro from Ilorin, using the methodology of the hizbiyyeen, we have others like "shaykh" Ajia who is upon the bidah of muwaazana which he took from his shaykh, Muhammad Mukhtaar Ash-shanqeeti(don't mistake him with his father, shaykh Muhammad Ameen Ash-shanqeeti rahimahullaah). Reason why "shaykh" Ajia hates shaykh rabee' so much, for exposing Muhammad mukhtaar Ash-shanqeeti. Shaykh Muhammad yahya An-najmee also warned against him same as shaykh ubayd......

^^

I thought abdelkabir seconded dr. Alaro before, no

Empiree:
^^

I thought abdelkabir seconded dr. Alaro before, no

What do u understand in the deen before?
Are u NO longer a SUFI?

Hibrahym:

What do u understand in the deen before?
Are u NO longer a SUFI?

excuse me?

Empiree:
excuse me?

It's a question that requires a YES/NO answer!

I think u've removed ur previous posts or it's sm1 else.
If these confirmed, I will sincerely apologise.

Hibrahym:

What do u understand in the deen before?
Are u NO longer a SUFI?

# Wonder shall never end. So, it is Athariyyah (Salafiyyah) that understand deen, abi egbé wo leyin dibo fun o?!

Hibrahym:

It's a question that requires a YES/NO answer!

I think u've removed ur previous posts or it's sm1 else.
If these confirmed, I will sincerely apologise.

I still have no idea what u talking about

OP should explain and relate his accusations to jabata . .

AlBaqir:


# Wonder shall never end. So, it is Athariyyah (Salafiyyah) that understand deen, abi egbé wo leyin dibo fun o?!

Of Course wonders won't end as long ur brothers keep striking themselves with knives in Iraaq, Iraan and elsewhere!

Hibrahym:

Of Course wonders won't end as long ur brothers keep striking themselves with knives in Iraaq, Iraan and elsewhere!

# That's very "good and sensible" if they only choose to strike themselves with knives unlike your blood thirsty Salafi brothers that always go on a killing spree hunting innocent lives they've declared Kuffar from slaughtering to suicide bombing. What a shameless wahabi religion of yours!

AlBaqir:


# That's very "good and sensible" if they only choose to strike themselves with knives unlike your blood thirsty Salafi brothers that always go on a killing spree hunting innocent lives they've declared Kuffar from slaughtering to suicide bombing. What a shameless wahabi religion of yours!

1. What is Salaf?
2. Who is a Salafi?
3. What is Wahabi?

[Just to be sure if u're NOT halucinating ]

AlBaqir:


# That's very "good and sensible" if they only choose to strike themselves with knives unlike your blood thirsty Salafi brothers that always go on a killing spree hunting innocent lives they've declared Kuffar from slaughtering to suicide bombing. What a shameless wahabi religion of yours!

And by the way ISIS (Daesh), Al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hizbollah (Which is in fact Hizbu-shaytaan) and Boko haram are all Khawaarij. You dig? Al-Khwaarij.
Well... u won't know that because the one that lacks never gives!

ShaheedBinAliyu:
OP should explain and relate his accusations to jabata . .

NO!
Anyone found to be distorting the Deen of Allah shld clarified to the people!
If the errors are public, correction is public.
It is from the enjoining the good and forbidding evil.

If Allah never mentioned anything about Iblees (the Devil), we wouldn't know his dangers and plans. But Allah clarified the affairs of Iblees.

Hibrahym:


And by the way ISIS (Daesh), Al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hizbollah (Which is in fact Hizbu-shaytaan) and Boko haram are all Khawaarij. You dig? Al-Khwaarij.
Well... u won't know that because the one that lacks never gives!

# Now you are giving excuse and trying to distance yourself from your Salafi brothers of ISIS, AL-QAEDA et al. On the other hand, you are so very quick to label a cultural practice (Tatbir) of a group to Nations like Iran, Iraq, and elsewhere.

# As you want me to "dig your brothers", I invite you to also dig those that practice tatbir:
www.nairaland.com/3395202/tatbir-flagellation-disturbing-innovation

Hibrahym:


1. What is Salaf?
2. Who is a Salafi?
3. What is Wahabi?

[Just to be sure if u're NOT halucinating ]

Its like you just come out of your Salafi ile kewu and you want to teach us "manhaj Salafiyyah/wahabiyyah"

Hibrahym:

NO!
Anyone found to be distorting the Deen of Allah shld clarified to the people!
If the errors are public, correction is public.
It is from the enjoining the good and forbidding evil.

If Allah never mentioned anything about Iblees (the Devil), we wouldn't know his dangers and plans. But Allah clarified the affairs of Iblees.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

Hibrahym:

NO!
Anyone found to be distorting the Deen of Allah shld clarified to the people!
If the errors are public, correction is public.
It is from the enjoining the good and forbidding evil.

If Allah never mentioned anything about Iblees (the Devil), we wouldn't know his dangers and plans. But Allah clarified the affairs of Iblees.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. #FOR JABATA TO ALWAYS EXPLAIN AND BRING PROOF AND ALSO ACTIONS AND SAYINGS OF THE PERSON HE ACCUSED, WHOEVER WILL ACCUSE HIM MUST DO THE SAME#

AlBaqir:


Its like you just come out of your Salafi ile kewu and you want to teach us "manhaj Salafiyyah/wahabiyyah"

seems you have got another recruit to deal with. I'm seeing his moniker just yesterday. Probably just graduated from ile keu

AlBaqir:


# Now you are giving excuse and trying to distance yourself from your Salafi brothers of ISIS, AL-QAEDA et al. On the other hand, you are so very quick to label a cultural practice (Tatbir) of a group to Nations like Iran, Iraq, and elsewhere.

# As you want me to "dig your brothers", I invite you to also dig those that practice tatbir:
www.nairaland.com/3395202/tatbir-flagellation-disturbing-innovation

I asked u who is a Salafi, no response and u now claim ISIS and Boko Haram are Salafis.
So u think everybody is on the "Methodology" of CNN like u?

You are inviting me to that link where those guys already finished u off on ur own turf?!

AlBaqir:


Its like you just come out of your Salafi ile kewu and you want to teach us "manhaj Salafiyyah/wahabiyyah"

Lame!

AlBaqir:


# That's very "good and sensible" if they only choose to strike themselves with knives unlike your blood thirsty Salafi brothers that always go on a killing spree hunting innocent lives they've declared Kuffar from slaughtering to suicide bombing. What a shameless wahabi religion of yours!

And by the way ISIS (Daesh), Al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hizbollah (Which is in fact Hizbu-shaytaan) and Boko haram are all Khawaarij.
You dig? Al-Khawaarij.

Hibrahym:

I asked u who is a Salafi,

# Anyway, you don't need to change your topic. And am not in the mood to derail either.

# You are of the opinion that Empiree, a Sufi, do not understand religion (Islam). And my question is how exactly do you an Athariyyah (Salafiyyah) understand religion (of Islam)?

Hibrahym:


And by the way ISIS (Daesh), Al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hizbollah (Which is in fact Hizbu-shaytaan) and Boko haram are all Khawaarij.
You dig? Al-Khawaarij.

# Obviously you are still making excuses and you don't want those idiots to be associated with your manhaj despite the fact that they claimed to be AhluSunnah and follow all your manhaj's code of conduct. And even one of your modern scholars confirmed this. Since nobody want to be associated with bad folks, why do you choose to associated with Shiism what is not it?

# As the saying goes, "what is good for the goose, is equally good for the ganger.

@Newnas 0..explain what at-takfeeri means and please also explain what Hadadi means . .thanks

AlBaqir:


# Obviously you are still making excuses and you don't want those idiots to be associated with your manhaj despite the fact that they claimed to be AhluSunnah and follow all your manhaj's code of conduct. And even one of your modern scholars confirmed this. Since nobody want to be associated with bad folks, why do you choose to associated with Shiism what is not it?

# As the saying goes, "what is good for the goose, is equally good for the ganger.

YOUR IGNORANCE KNOWS NO BOUND. . AND AM SURE YOU KNOW...BUT ITS YOUR TAQIYA THAT'S WORKING .. Ibrahim is perfectly correct

ShaheedBinAliyu:
YOUR IGNORANCE KNOWS NO BOUND. . AND AM SURE YOU KNOW...BUT ITS YOUR TAQIYA THAT'S WORKING .. Ibrahim is perfectly correct

Its not mumu like you that should be talking. How many times have we exposed your yansh and empty brain?!

# However, you can join your Athariyyah brother and tell us how you know Islam better?

AlBaqir:


Its not mumu like you that should be talking. How many times have we exposed your yansh and empty brain?!

# However, you can join your Athariyyah brother and tell us how you know Islam better?

Ehya . . pele . .

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Ehya . . pele . .

Thank you.
# Again the challenge is still stand: How is Athariyyah know Islam better?

AlBaqir:


Thank you.

# Again the challenge is still stand: How is Athariyyah know Islam better?

Who be athariyyah o. . mi o gbo ri