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The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by sonya4all(m): 9:27pm On Feb 28, 2010
Umunem ri nairaland ra ali ika puha.Bia ni eben bia mari umune unu ri ali ozo.Alua nio.Pls.Due to the e-curses that have been going on in similar threads.I hereby plead that you should not use abusive words here.Non ikas pls check another thread.Thanks.And pls write in ika language all posters
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by sonya4all(m): 6:01pm On Mar 01, 2010
agbor ri nma owa
umunede ri nma
owa ri nma
akumazi ri nma
emuhu ri nma
mbiri ri nma
ya ri ni enyi lechari nma.alua ni umunem.puha ni eben ni enyi mari enwe enyi.

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Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by Abagworo(m): 8:41am On Mar 17, 2010
agbor di nma owa
umunede di nma
owa di nma
akumazi di nma
emuhu di nma
mbiri di nma
ya di ni anyi ncha nma.alua ni umunnem.puta ni ebea ka anyi mara onwe anyi.

sorry dear.just had to centralise it for all to understand without stress.

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Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by AndreUweh(m): 6:49pm On Mar 17, 2010
C. Achebe: 'Igbo is very unique because of divisive dialects'
In my Isinweke dialect: Okubiri nwoko na okubiri nwanyi, unu futa nga ka anyi mara ogwe ka anyi.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by ChinenyeN(m): 4:06am On Mar 18, 2010
Dede Andre, how far are your Isinweke people from Ngwa?
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by sonya4all(m): 8:29am On Mar 18, 2010
Thank you all for ur coments,mind u i said all coments must be in ika,but i dnt understand the oyibo again u guys are speaking.@abagworo,writing ika might seem igbo 2 u but the accent is very hard for u 2 understand.No more english.I can wait even till next year,for an ika 2 come and coment.No central igbo as well.Tnks for understanding
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by AndreUweh(m): 3:34pm On Mar 18, 2010
ChinenyeN:

Dede Andre, how far are your Isinweke people from Ngwa?
It is only one community in Etiti that is from Ngwa. They migrated to their present location from Ngwa about 1750. They are called Umungwa, politically, they are in Obowu Local govt area, Etiti.
The guy who organised the Ikenga awards that took place in Owerri last year is from this community.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by sonya4all(m): 5:38pm On Mar 19, 2010
@andre,yu zikwo?(you again?).Hnmmmm
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by sonya4all(m): 10:45pm On Apr 20, 2010
Umunem nani ni?
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by 006(m): 6:05am On Apr 21, 2010
sonya4all:

Thank you all for your coments,mind u i said all coments must be in ika,but i dnt understand the oyibo again u guys are speaking.@abagworo,writing ika might seem igbo 2 u but the accent is very hard for u 2 understand.No more english.I can wait even till next year,for an ika 2 come and coment.No central igbo as well.Tnks for understanding

The accent is not hard to understand. I understand Agbor well.

Umunne m ndi Nairaland na anu ika puta. Bia nu ebea bia mara umunne unu ndi ala ozo. Alua nio.
Agbor di mma
Umunede di mma
Owa di mma
Akumazi di mma
Emuhu di mma
Mbiri di mma
Ya diri anyi ncha mma.  Alua ni umunne m. Puta nu ebea ka anyi mara onwe anyi.

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Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by AndreUweh(m): 10:22pm On Oct 30, 2010
Iri Ji festival 2010 in London has come and gone, I will not hastily forget the role Ika sons played in making it a huge success. Special greetings to members of Ika Progressive Union, London.
Special greetings to the entire Delta Igbo.
Also special greetings to Ndigbo in general.
Chukwu gozie unu.

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Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by chyz1: 7:23pm On Oct 31, 2010
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by Sagewood: 11:37pm On Apr 16, 2011
How can you say we should write in Ika, when some of us from Agbor cannot write in the language because we are not based there. If you want this thread to be successful, you MUST move forward and allow the common language, English. People can also write Ika, but you cannot ban English!
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by Sagewood: 11:49pm On Apr 16, 2011
ok
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by Abagworo(m): 8:03am On Apr 17, 2011
sonya4all:

[b]Umunem ri nairaland ra ali ika puha.Bia ni eben bia mari umune unu ri ali ozo.[/b]Alua nio.

Damn this is pure Owerri dialect with mix of Isuama!!!
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by ezeagu(m): 7:40pm On Apr 17, 2011
Ki saha ndi Igbo ri ebeni ri a su Igbo ndi ebe ozor?
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by Abagworo(m): 9:02pm On Apr 17, 2011
ezeagu:

Ki saha ndi Igbo ri ebeni ri a su Igbo ndi ebe ozor?

Is this Owerri or Ika?If it is Ika then they are unbelievably linguistically close to Owerri.

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Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by ezeagu(m): 9:55pm On Apr 17, 2011
Abagworo:

Is this Owerri or Ika?If it is Ika then they are unbelievably linguistically close to Owerri.

Ki i rizi e kwu? Ki wu threadi ni? He dezini 'Ika thread' na elu ebeni?

sonya4all:

Umunem ri nairaland ra ali ika puha.Bia ni eben bia mari umune unu ri ali ozo.Alua nio.Pls.Due to the e-curses that have been going on in similar threads.I hereby plead that you should not use abusive words here.Non ikas pls check another thread.Thanks.And pls write in ika language all posters

sony4all, I wu onye Agbor?
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by biene: 5:39am On Apr 22, 2011
does anyone know of agbor language classes in london,
I'm from Agbor but have never been there
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by Sagewood: 6:43am On Apr 22, 2011
Your best bet is to learn the Ika (Agbor) language from your parents, friends, and people who speak the language. Looking for classes to learn the language is far- fetched, as it will not be available anywhere except in Agbor.

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Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by AndreUweh(m): 9:27am On Apr 22, 2011
biene:

does anyone know of agbor language classes in london,
I'm from Agbor but have never been there
We have an Igbo class in London with qualified Igbo teachers.
Are you interested?.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by ChinenyeN(m): 2:41pm On Apr 22, 2011
Andre Uweh:

We have an Igbo class in London with qualified Igbo teachers.
Are you interested?.
. . . but [s]he's asking for Agbor, isn't [s]he?

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Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by AndreUweh(m): 3:50pm On Apr 22, 2011
ChinenyeN:

. . . but [s]he's asking for Agbor, isn't [s]he?
It is pointless searching aimlessly for an item that is not in the market. What is the point in any one asking you where he or she can learn Umungasi language?.
Or anyone coming to ask me where he can learn Isinweke language?.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by ChinenyeN(m): 5:04pm On Apr 22, 2011
Well, I don't know, but isn't Agbor a clan? If it is, then I'm not sure the Umungasi and Isinweke (correct me if I'm wrong on this one) examples would be appropriate. Instead, if you had said something like, Onitsha, or Ngwa, or Aro, etc., then maybe you could have had something. But still, I don't understand what the problem would be in understanding someone's reasoning for asking about an Agbor language class. After all, we have okwu Ngwa classes at some of our various Ngwa socio-cultural organizations. Although, this is all under the premise that Agbor is indeed a clan, but if it turns out that Agbor isn't a clan, then much of what I said here doesn't apply.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by Chyz2: 5:30pm On Apr 22, 2011
I'd have to agree with sagewood. And if his suggestion isn't possible for you then I would suggest you take andres advice and take general igbo classes. That way when time comes you can at least interact verbally with u parents or others from your town and differenciate which words belong to ur town and which doesn't. You can simply replace them and the transition is so much better. Learning general igbo can just be used as a foundation to get things started.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by ChinenyeN(m): 8:20pm On Apr 22, 2011
Chyz*:

I'd have to agree with sagewood. And if his suggestion isn't possible for you then I would suggest you take andres advice and take general igbo classes. That way when time comes you can at least interact verbally with u parents or others from your town and differenciate which words belong to your town and which doesn't. You can simply replace them and the transition is so much better. Learning general igbo can just be used as a foundation to get things started.
I kind of always thought it made more sense to learn your own people's tongue before the general Igbo, because I hear it can be difficult going from general Igbo to a peculiar tongue, as opposed to the other way around where one's lect simply needs to be 'watered down' (some more than others) before you get that general Igbo taste. Then again, I may be wrong, seeing as to how I find it difficult to go from my own to the general Igbo. meh.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by AndreUweh(m): 10:09pm On Apr 22, 2011
The girl wanting to learn Agbor language which does not exist resides in London. In London, Igbo language is available and some Agbor sons and daughters are currently enrolled in this classes. The choice is now hers.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by ChinenyeN(m): 10:47pm On Apr 22, 2011
Andre Uweh:

The girl wanting to learn Agbor language which does not exist resides in London. In London, Igbo language is available and some Agbor sons and daughters are currently enrolled in this classes. The choice is now hers.
Okay.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by Chyz2: 3:33am On Apr 23, 2011
ChinenyeN:

I kind of always thought it made more sense to learn your own people's tongue before the general Igbo, because I hear it can be difficult going from general Igbo to a peculiar tongue, as opposed to the other way around where one's lect simply needs to be 'watered down' (some more than others) before you get that general Igbo taste. Then again, I may be wrong, seeing as to how I find it difficult to go from my own to the general Igbo. meh.

Not difficult. Especially if after she learns it, when around her parents or clansmen she can start transitioning. The reason why it may be difficult for you is because you don't care too much to lose it and/or you are regularly speaking it with your parents or clansmen.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by ChinenyeN(m): 3:26pm On Apr 23, 2011
Chyz*:

Not difficult. Especially if after she learns it, when around her parents or clansmen she can start transitioning. The reason why it may be difficult for you is because you don't care too much to lose it and/or you are regularly speaking it with your parents or clansmen.
makes sense.
Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by Nobody: 4:41pm On Apr 23, 2011
I think it is easier to learn your Igbo dialect first and transition to central Igbo than vice versa.  Every Igbo dialect from Ika, Enuani, Ukwuani, Ikwerre has central Igbo coded into it. You just need adjustments. However, if you learn central Igbo first, you may get lost in your dialect. I know that outside Onitsha and Ogbaru (Anambra) and perhaps Oguta (Imo) and Ndoni (Rivers), other Igbo do not understand Delta Igbo dialects very well unless they are modified or adjusted for general understanding! Even when you modify the Delta Igbo, other Igbo sometimes laugh at you.

I remember two years ago, I was at Ihiala and a shop keeper said to me "Igbo gi e yere eye" meaning that my Igbo was not well done because I spoke a modified enuani dialect. Pat Utomi had the same problem at Ohaneze one time when some uninformed Igbo said that he was not speaking Igbo because he spoke Enuani. I have heard Delta Igbo called "koi-koi Igbo" by some other Igbo too even in this forum.

I am proud of my Igbo heritage but I resent it sometimes when my dialect is disparaged by my brothers accross the Niger. Although, Anioma people are equally guilty of the demeaning references but I believe, it is more prevalent amongst the SE Igbo.

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Re: The Official Ika Thread.(agbor,umunede,owa.etc) Alua Ni by ChinenyeN(m): 4:55pm On Apr 23, 2011
omonuan:

[b]I think it is easier to learn your Igbo dialect first and transition to central Igbo than vice versa.  Every Igbo dialect from Ika, Enuani, Ukwuani, Ikwerre has central Igbo coded into it. You just need adjustments. However, if you learn central Igbo first, you may get lost in your dialect. [/b]I know that outside Onitsha and Ogbaru (Anambra) and perhaps Oguta (Imo) and Ndoni (Rivers), other Igbo do not understand Delta Igbo dialects unless they are modified or adjusted for general understanding!
Yeah, that's always been my understanding. Central/general Igbo is a creation, created in such a way that it is completely stripped of any and all peculiarities and complexities that are otherwise present in other versions. So, it makes more sense (to me) to know the peculiarities of one's lect before you descend down to the general/central Igbo, because of the relative ease, as opposed to the other way around.

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