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IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by paschu: 8:42am On Sep 23, 2017
Is there anything wrong in funding a legitimate and noble PEOPLE oriented mass movement for self-determination?

The fact that ordinary people are funding this movement WILLINGLY underscores its legitimacy! So why is this regime so scared of facing the reality?

Which political organization in Nigeria gets its funds from the ordinary people without coercion? None. Zero.

So, you can now understand why they demonize IPOB for attracting global donations from the grassroots.

See their pathetic claims here:

https://www.nairaland.com/4073375/ipob-gets-fund-paris-holland

You guys should start using your brains critically. The fact that they make this claims is a huge indictment on the govt. and its warped intelligence community who could not identify a single sponsor of Boko-Haram and the Terrorist Herdsmen since the last 9 years and counting.

Unfortunately for them, the world has NOT considered the Indigenous People of Biafra to be terrorists, and I think that they can NEVER do that - because these are not just a group, but an Indigenous People with LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.

If anything, this govt. is the one being perceived abroad as a terror and tyrannical regime. So, their noise in Nigeria is where it ends. Africa is the only place where they can oppress and kill innocent people for daring to assert their rights to self-determination. But the oppression and wanton killings cannot go on forever. If people keep quiet, stones will protest.

If only they knew how many millions of Easterners they alienate from Nigeria by adopting this rogue stance against the agitators. Many of us injustice-hating millions who have never identified with the movement is no longer finding the antics of the govt. funny.

nwabobo:
From an Afonja newspaper, very predictable. Lol that Nigerian intelligence is able to identify an account domiciled in France which France the host nation is not even aware of grin grin grin

The desperation of this government has gone on to another level.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by BankeSmalls(f): 8:43am On Sep 23, 2017
The government is scared, so scared that they are grasping at straws, accusing their shadows and hiding behind their fingers all in an effort to stop the inevitable.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by Nobody: 8:46am On Sep 23, 2017
All my life, I have never seen one as hypocritical as the sitting President.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by paschu: 8:52am On Sep 23, 2017
So bad.

FortifiedCity:
All my life, I have never seen one as hypocritical as the sitting President.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by paschu: 8:56am On Sep 23, 2017
It's a shame.

BankeSmalls:
The government is scared, so scared that they are grasping at straws, accusing their shadows and hiding behind their fingers all in an effort to stop the inevitable.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by djeezy(m): 8:58am On Sep 23, 2017
Now they've been proscribed as terrorists, funding them is fundamentally wrong now. Would have been right before the proscription.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by BankeSmalls(f): 9:00am On Sep 23, 2017
djeezy:
Now they've been proscribed as terrorists, funding them is fundamentally wrong now. Would have been right before the proscription.

Keep deceiving your selves.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by vedaxcool(m): 9:04am On Sep 23, 2017
All I see is grown men crying. Suffering loss after loss. First GeJ defeat then anti corruption insurgency then beerfraud ... is loosing some sort of supernatural powers you posses?

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by RoyalUc(m): 9:05am On Sep 23, 2017
You people should continue to promote hatred and spread bitterness, at the end, we will know who suffers most.

Just keep it up!

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by paschu: 9:10am On Sep 23, 2017
The biggest enemies of Nigeria are folks like you who keep shut at injustice.

RoyalUc:
You people should continue to promote hatred and spread bitterness, at the end, we will know who suffers most.

Just keep it up!

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by aolawale025: 9:16am On Sep 23, 2017
NK was able to strike the right cord with the people that made him have the gravitas. Instead of guns, what a responsible government does is to get to the root of that cord THRU DIALOGUE and resolve it.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by RoyalUc(m): 9:19am On Sep 23, 2017
paschu:
The biggest enemies of Nigeria are folks like you who keep shut at injustice.


Please tell me how you are fighting injustice in clear terms.
Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by sus4allng: 9:22am On Sep 23, 2017
You can run into problems in western countries if you are among the numerous people contributing funds to an organization that is not registered as a charity or corporation.

Certainly the account will be reviewed by the French government and it can spell doom for contributors.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by paschu: 9:26am On Sep 23, 2017
Where did I use the word "fight"?

Clear sign of comprehension issues on your part.

That's why you started talking about a non-existent "spreading of hatred" whist the object of the OP eluded your mental grasp.

First go back and re-read the OP and COMPREHEND its import before posting a comment. Probably doing so will help make your comments relevant to the issues raised in the OP.

RoyalUc:


Please tell me how you are fighting injustice in clear terms.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by gare(f): 9:26am On Sep 23, 2017
paschu:
Is there anything wrong in funding a legitimate and noble PEOPLE oriented mass movement for self-determination?

The fact that ordinary people are funding this movement WILLINGLY underscores its legitimacy! So why is this regime so scared of facing the reality?

Which political organization in Nigeria gets its funds from the ordinary people without coercion? None. Zero.

So, you can now understand why they demonize IPOB for attracting global donations from the grassroots.

See their pathetic claims here:

https://www.nairaland.com/4073375/ipob-gets-fund-paris-holland

You guys should start using your brains critically. The fact that they make this claims is a huge indictment on the govt. and its warped intelligence community who could not identify a single sponsor of Boko-Haram and the Terrorist Herdsmen since the last 9 years and counting.

Unfortunately for them, the world has NOT considered the Indigenous People of Biafra as terrorists, and I think that they can NEVER do. - because these are not just a group, but an Indigenous People with LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.

If anything, this govt. is the one being perceived abroad as a terror and tyrannical regime. So, their noise in Nigeria is where it ends. Africa is the only place where they can oppress and kill innocent people for daring to assert their rights to self-determination. But the oppression and wanton killings cannot go on forever. If people keep quiet, stones will protest.

If only they knew how many millions of Easterners they alienate from Nigeria by adopting this rogue stance against the agitators. Many of us injustice-hating millions who have never identified with the movement is no longer finding the antics of the govt. funny.


A lot is wrong with it when the people recieving the money are killing policemen and burning down police stations and mosque, all that non violence is rubbish, there's is a lot of intimidations going within the east trying to force people to join them .

The fact that he NK doesn't have a strategic planning group to help him strategize well he will never make, I so Envy him whenever I see his rally, with that crowd and making IPOB a registered Party you're sure of winning every electoral Position in the southeast and then you ensure there is good governance and you being at the senate and House of representatives you can start your lobbying to see if other regions will support you to have your own country.

But when you resort to name calling, insulting and threatening to kill and begging for arms to fight, then you will never make it.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by baralatie(m): 9:29am On Sep 23, 2017
RoyalUc:
You people should continue to promote hatred and spread bitterness, at the end, we will know who suffers most.

Just keep it up!
it is remarkable the volume of brainwash they have gone through.when it gets clear the daylight fraud of KANU and the eventual damage they receive at the end I hope they will accept responsibility because now little by little they can smell trouble.all for supporting and funding ipob

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by paschu: 9:29am On Sep 23, 2017
Not registered as a charity or organization WHERE?

sus4allng:
You can run into problems in western countries if you are among the numerous people contributing funds to an organization that is not registered as a charity or corporation.

Certainly the account will be reviewed the French government and it can spell doom for contributors.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by RoyalUc(m): 9:32am On Sep 23, 2017
paschu:
Where did I use the word "fight"?

Clear sign of comprehension issues on your part.

That's why you started talking about a non-existent "spreading of hatred" whist the object of the OP eluded your mental grasp.

First go back and re-read the OP and COMPREHEND its import before posting a comment. Probably doing so will help make your comments relevant to the issues raised in the OP.


Mr comprehensor. Once again, we will know where this leads you. Continue!

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by attackgat: 9:43am On Sep 23, 2017
Just a matter of giving a Dog a bad name to hand it.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by baralatie(m): 9:50am On Sep 23, 2017
attackgat:
Just a matter of giving a Dog a bad name to hand it.
giving to a terrorist organisation is giving a dog a bad name,continue

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by attackgat: 9:52am On Sep 23, 2017
baralatie:

giving to a terrorist organisation is giving a dog a bad name,continue

Of course, whst did you think? When.an.organisation that is unarmed and has never killed anyone is called terrorist

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by baralatie(m): 10:01am On Sep 23, 2017
attackgat:


Of course, whst did you think? When.an.organisation that is unarmed and has never killed anyone is called terrorist
ipob unarmed ke with bombs discovered at his residence,targeting soft spots to steal military guns at check points,target a section of a nation to kill,establishment of a Biafra intelligence secret and national guard,practically going one on one to fight Nigerian army and threatening to cut off the head of the president!
and many that I cannot list and you call that organisation unarmed?

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by Nobody: 10:04am On Sep 23, 2017
It is not wrong when the self-determination in question is restricted to legitimate means. It is terrorism funding when the acclaimed leadership of the self-determination movement openly asks for funds to buy arms or preaches hate against other regions. What Nnamdi Kanu is trying to do is very similar to what Shekau (another proponent of his own brand of self-determination) is doing. Both are using illegal means. Since these illegal means include the buying of arms and the use of violence, funding either would be terrorist financing.

Nnamdi Kanu was not smart. He could have achieved his objectives in a much better manner if he had done so with wisdom and patience. He chose the path of showmanship over substance, and wooed the ignorant rather than the intelligentsia. He is practically finished now.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by reptile1: 10:05am On Sep 23, 2017
The terrorist buhari and his criminal gang are perturbed about the growing popularity of IPOB

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by attackgat: 10:10am On Sep 23, 2017
baralatie:

ipob unarmed ke with bombs discovered at his residence,targeting soft spots to steal military guns at check points,target a section of a nation to kill,establishment of a Biafra intelligence secret and national guard,practically going one on one to fight Nigerian army and threatening to cut off the head of the president!
and many that I cannot list and you call that organisation unarmed?

Did you see any pictures of any bombs or you are just another person who believes anything the read on the net? What fool would even believe that Kanu wiuld hide bombs in the house house he sleeps in and rusk his life. Stealing guns at check points? Have actually heard of such a thing? Target a section of the country to kill? Did they kill anyone? Fighting the military? With stones? You call that a fight? Which grouo hasnt stoned the military in the padt from the NLC to NANS? They said they will cut of the head of the president? An unarmed group who never attacked anyone? They are free to say whatever they like

You are just someone who believes anything they read on the internet without proof.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by baralatie(m): 10:20am On Sep 23, 2017
attackgat:


Did you see any pictures of any bombs or you are just another person who believes anything the read on the net? What fool would even believe that Kanu wiuld hide bombs in the house house he sleeps in and rusk his life. Stealing guns at check points? Have actually heard of such a thing? Target a section of the country to kill? Did they kill anyone? Fighting the military? With stones? You call that a fight? Which grouo hasnt stoned the military in the padt from the NLC to NANS? They said they will cut of the head of the president? An unarmed group who never attacked anyone? They are free to say whatever they like

You are just someone who believes anything they read on the internet without proof.
shey you are now asking for pictures!

come defence hq!

we will show his file!

that is when you guys will know that KANU bit more than what he can chew!
and as at now the organisation is a terrorist org. I ye next thing is any body that supported in terms of funds any fund channel will have to be discovered and blocked off.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by paschu: 11:29am On Sep 23, 2017
- Ojukwu did it in a "much better way" (think Aburi accord). But what did Nigeria do in response? It declared war against Biafra and killed millions.

- Uwazuruike did it in a very "diplomatic" manner. But what did Nigeria do? It locked Uwazuruike up and killed many of his followers.

- Now, NK is doing it in a different way. Yet, the killing is continuing.

For how long will you support evil?


Farmerforlife:
It is not wrong when the self-determination in question is restricted to legitimate means. It is terrorism funding when the acclaimed leadership of the self-determination movement openly asks for funds to buy arms or preaches hate against other regions. What Nnamdi Kanu is trying to do is very similar to what Shekau (another proponent of his own brand of self-determination) is doing. Both are using illegal means. Since these illegal means include the buying of arms and the use of violence, funding either would be terrorist financing.

Nnamdi Kanu was not smart. He could have achieved his objectives in a much better manner if he had done so with wisdom and patience. He chose the path of showmanship over substance, and wooed the ignorant rather than the intelligentsia. He is practically finished now.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by frankdoz25: 11:37am On Sep 23, 2017
one day, for sure, this fraudlent and oppressive government will accuse north korea for sponsoring nnamdi kanu and ipob.
Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by frankdoz25: 11:42am On Sep 23, 2017
sus4allng:
You can run into problems in western countries if you are among the numerous people contributing funds to an organization that is not registered as a charity or corporation.

Certainly the account will be reviewed by the French government and it can spell doom for contributors.
afonja! Bruce fein, a US legal practitioner is busy campaigning for biafra at UN and your here romancing ewedu in your brown roof.

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Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by vital: 12:31pm On Sep 23, 2017
gare:


A lot is wrong with it when the people recieving the money are killing policemen and burning down police stations and mosque, all that non violence is rubbish, there's is a lot of intimidations going within the east trying to force people to join them .

The fact that he NK doesn't have a strategic planning group to help him strategize well he will never make, I so Envy him whenever I see his rally, with that crowd and making IPOB a registered Party you're sure of winning every electoral Position in the southeast and then you ensure there is good governance and you being at the senate and House of representatives you can start your lobbying to see if other regions will support you to have your own country.

But when you resort to name calling, insulting and threatening to kill and begging for arms to fight, then you will never make it.
you are really breathing from your ANUS.you can say this and that today.but let me assure you.U see IPOB and other biafra organisation.Its already in the igbos blood and mind.get it into ur mucus skull.1967-1970 will never be forgotten,ipob massacre,just downloaded in their brain.
Re: IPOB: What's Wrong In Donating To A People's Movement For Self-Determination? by waledeji(m): 12:31pm On Sep 23, 2017
frankdoz25:
afonja! Bruce fein, a US legal practitioner is busy campaigning for biafra at UN and your here romancing ewedu in your brown roof.
cheesy
So Bruse Fein is the new man on board now, not Turkish diplomat again cheesy cheesy

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