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Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by luminouz(m): 10:20am On Oct 18, 2017
BornnAgainChild:
Ok good...but what about monkey pox
Thank God u have a brain
We are waiting for u to find a cure!!! undecided
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by luminouz(m): 10:23am On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:
The body's immune system has already defeated the HIV/AIDS virus, making it powerless even if you have it. The body was designed to work that way from creation. The body always adapt and eventually find a way to get around such situation and has been doing so for millions of years. That's why the human race has been able to survive for millions of years when there were no drugs at all. If such healing power didn't naturally exist, the human race would have gone extinct many years ago.

Western pharmaceutical companies are about to pull something big. Just watch out.

What are u saying gangan?
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by BornnAgainChild(f): 10:26am On Oct 18, 2017
luminouz:

Thank God u have a brain
We are waiting for u to find a cure!!! undecided


Ok good...but make sure you get busy as well with yours cos its seems idle and useless
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by musicwriter(m): 10:35am On Oct 18, 2017
luminouz:


What are u saying gangan?

The HIV/AIDS virus is no longer a serious threat as it used to be. The body has found a natural way to heal itself of such situation. That's exactly what the body was designed to do.

There was a time MALARIA was killing people and scared the world.
There was a time SMALLPOX was a global threat.
There was a time POLIO was a global threat.
e. t. c.

Eventually, the human body developed immunity against these diseases rendering them powerless, and HIV/AIDS is not an exception.

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Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by udemzyudex(m): 10:36am On Oct 18, 2017
ivolt:
This isn't a cure per se, just an improvement on existing ARVs.

You didn't comprehend what is written in the article.
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by ivolt: 10:40am On Oct 18, 2017
udemzyudex:


You didn't comprehend what is written in the article.

You didn't comprehend the article, this is not a cure.

Suppressing the growth of HIV and preventing rebounds is not a cure.
The carrier still has the virus and his/her blood can cause infection in others.
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by luminouz(m): 10:42am On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:


The HIV/AIDS virus is no longer a serious threat as it used to be. The body has found a natural way to heal itself of such situation. That's exactly what the body was designed to do.

There was a time MALARIA was killing people and scared the world.
There was a time SMALLPOX was a global threat.
There was a time POLIO was a global threat.
e. t. c.
OK bro!!!

Eventually, the human body developed immunity against these diseases rendering them powerless, and HIV/AIDS is not an exception.

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Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by luminouz(m): 10:43am On Oct 18, 2017
BornnAgainChild:



Ok good...but make sure you get busy as well with yours cos its seems idle and useless
Lmaoooooo
E PAIN AM!!!!!

Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by yemmit90: 10:46am On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:


The HIV/AIDS virus is no longer a serious threat as it used to be. The body has found a natural way to heal itself of such situation. That's exactly what the body was designed to do.

There was a time MALARIA was killing people and scared the world.
There was a time SMALLPOX was a global threat.
There was a time POLIO was a global threat.
e. t. c.

Eventually, the human body developed immunity against these diseases rendering them powerless, and HIV/AIDS is not an exception.

This sounds funny but there might be some truths in your write up.

Minds heal faster than drugs. The reason someone can have HIV for years without showing any symptom, whereas the moment he/she discover the virus through test or thought of it, he/she will start seeing the symptoms. The same thing apply to High blood pressure.

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Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by musicwriter(m): 10:49am On Oct 18, 2017
yemmit90:


This sounds funny but there might be some truths in your write up.

Minds heal faster than drugs. The reason someone can have HIV for years without showing any symptom, whereas the moment he/she discover the virus through test or thought of it, he/she will start seeing the symptoms. The same thing apply to High blood pressure.


And what's funny about that?
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by yemmit90: 11:01am On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:

And what's funny about that?
Because your assertions are not yet established.
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by benzene00: 11:11am On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:
The body's immune system has already defeated the HIV/AIDS virus, making it powerless even if you have it. The body was designed to work that way from creation. The body always adapt and eventually find a way to get around such situation and has been doing so for millions of years. That's why the human race has been able to survive for millions of years when there were no drugs at all. If such healing power didn't naturally exist, the human race would have gone extinct many years ago.

Western pharmaceutical companies are about to pull something big. Just watch out.


I feel like giving you a dirty slap


imbecilic hypocrite
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by greatnow: 11:12am On Oct 18, 2017
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Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by ruggedtimi(m): 11:14am On Oct 18, 2017
how can a layman understand this
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by caesaraba(m): 11:16am On Oct 18, 2017
samskin:
if they happen to find the cure for HIV and cancer God the earth will be worst than hell. it will fast forward the coming of our creator.. ashawo go they bleep nonsense comut from man dvck.

Hehe, you sound like you are really looking forward to your last sentence.
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by musicwriter(m): 11:24am On Oct 18, 2017
yemmit90:


Because your assertions are not yet established.

Established by who?
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by Nobody: 11:47am On Oct 18, 2017
This is over four years old nau...Stale gist
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by Pataricatering(f): 11:52am On Oct 18, 2017
Why are these men ripped wasting their time ? Instead of them to charter African pastors that can cure anything to lay hands and pray into handkerchief and holy water that they can just prescribe for patients !
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by samskin(m): 12:32pm On Oct 18, 2017
caesaraba:


Hehe, you sound like you are really looking forward to your last sentence.
I don't understand pls.....
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by yemmit90: 2:41pm On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:

Established by who?
By WHO
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by musicwriter(m): 3:13pm On Oct 18, 2017
yemmit90:


By WHO
.

The world health organization has nothing to do with what I said. What I was dealing with is historical countdown of diseases and how the body develops immunity against them..

I said "The HIV/AIDS virus is no longer a serious threat as it used to be. The body has found a natural way to heal itself of such situation. That's exactly what the body was designed to do.

There was a time MALARIA was killing people and scared the world.
There was a time SMALLPOX was a global threat.
There was a time POLIO was a global threat.
e. t. c.

Eventually, the human body developed immunity against these diseases rendering them powerless, and HIV/AIDS is not an exception".

We are not the only living organism on planet earth. We live with elegants, dogs, goats, chickens, snakes, antelopes, ants, fishes, e.t.c. These animals also regularly do have their own epidemic and their body do eventually figure out how to defeat the disease. Or how do you think animals have survived in the wild for millions of years? Do you think animals have drugs that we humans don't have?

When I was growing up in the village we had lots of chickens and at a time there was this epidemic that came from nowhere and killed over 200 chickens leaving just 5. These 5 survived because their body figured out how to defeat the disease- their body developed immunity against the disease. That's exactly what the body of both animals and man are designed to do. After 2 years, the remaining 5 chickens later re-populated the poultry and there were over 250 chickens.

This also happens in the wild. It happens to us humans too.

I understand how white people works; especially in relation to their former colonies. What they do is scare poor countries to death in order to sell them drugs. When they eventually come up with the drug, it's we poor countries that would spend Billions of dollars stockpiling same whether it works or not, because according to you they're the ones ordained to "establish" and un-establish what our own facts should be. And there's no end in sight.
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by Veeguns1: 3:38pm On Oct 18, 2017
Na to dey kpansh anyhow remain. oya angel where you dey
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by Setaje(f): 3:57pm On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:
.

The world health organization has nothing to do with what I said. What I was dealing with is historical countdown of diseases and how the body develops immunity against them..

I said "The HIV/AIDS virus is no longer a serious threat as it used to be. The body has found a natural way to heal itself of such situation. That's exactly what the body was designed to do.

There was a time MALARIA was killing people and scared the world.
There was a time SMALLPOX was a global threat.
There was a time POLIO was a global threat.
e. t. c.

Eventually, the human body developed immunity against these diseases rendering them powerless, and HIV/AIDS is not an exception".

We are not the only living organism on planet earth. We live with elegants, dogs, goats, chickens, snakes, antelopes, ants, fishes, e.t.c. These animals also regularly do have their own epidemic and their body do eventually figure out how to defeat the disease. Or how do you think animals have survived in the wild for millions of years? Do you think animals have drugs that we humans don't have?

When I was growing up in the village we had lots of chickens and at a time there was this epidemic that came from nowhere and killed over 200 chickens leaving just 5. These 5 survived because their body figured out how to defeat the disease- their body developed immunity against the disease. That's exactly what the body of both animals and man are designed to do. After 2 years, the remaining 5 chickens later re-populated the poultry and there were over 250 chickens.

This also happens in the wild. It happens to us humans too.

I understand how white people works; especially in relation to their former colonies. What they do is scare poor countries to death in order to sell them drugs. When they eventually come up with the drug, it's we poor countries that would spend Billions of dollars stockpiling same whether it works or not, because according to you they're the ones ordained to "establish" and un-establish what our own facts should be. And there's no end in sight.

google seroreversion. it's already happening. many patients turn negative after few years of using arvs. some don't even use arvs. just use drugs that boost their immune system and somehow it fights the disease away from the body. the only thing white doctors say is that the initial HIV test was questionable. meaning the person was never hiv positive hence he can turn negative because they believe once one is positive, the person remains positive for life. but people from different parts of the world are having this positive to negative testimonies. they even have a forum where they discuss. some doctors say their immune system are strong enough to fight off the disease. what I believe though is that there is a cure for every sickness and as u said once they see that the disease is no more as strong as it used to. they would be forced to bring out the cure just as they did malaria and the rest and offcourse they will create another terrible disease.

see how fast they were able to tame Ebola yet cancer, diabetes, HIV is giving them issues.


there is no profit in curing diseases.

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Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by Gerrard59(m): 6:14pm On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:
The body's immune system has already defeated the HIV/AIDS virus, making it powerless even if you have it. The body was designed to work that way from creation. The body always adapt and eventually find a way to get around such situation and has been doing so for millions of years. That's why the human race has been able to survive for millions of years when there were no drugs at all. If such healing power didn't naturally exist, the human race would have gone extinct many years ago.

Western pharmaceutical companies are about to pull something big. Just watch out.


How about you ingest yourself with the virus and let's how your body defeats it?
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by musicwriter(m): 6:49pm On Oct 18, 2017
Gerrard59:



How about you ingest yourself with the virus and let's how your body defeats it?

It doesn't work that way. You have to sample it on a hundred or may be a thousand people, and when you do so you'll discover it would have different effect on different people. Some people would not register any effect at all. Please see the answer I gave the other guy where I cited my poultry back in the days.
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by musicwriter(m): 7:04pm On Oct 18, 2017
Setaje:


google seroreversion. it's already happening. many patients turn negative after few years of using arvs. some don't even use arvs. just use drugs that boost their immune system and somehow it fights the disease away from the body. the only thing white doctors say is that the initial HIV test was questionable. meaning the person was never hiv positive hence he can turn negative because they believe once one is positive, the person remains positive for life. but people from different parts of the world are having this positive to negative testimonies. they even have a forum where they discuss. some doctors say their immune system are strong enough to fight off the disease. what I believe though is that there is a cure for every sickness and as u said once they see that the disease is no more as strong as it used to. they would be forced to bring out the cure just as they did malaria and the rest and offcourse they will create another terrible disease.

see how fast they were able to tame Ebola yet cancer, diabetes, HIV is giving them issues.


there is no profit in curing diseases.

The sentence in bold is 100% accurate!.

Giant pharmaceutical companies like Novartis, Pfizer, Roche, Sanofi, Merck & Co., Johnson & Johnson, GlaxoSmithKline, have done their research for years and they have the cure locked up somewhere as classified information. The antiretroviral medicine is no longer profitable as the HIV/AIDS no longer have any effect on humans as before. Soon, out of nowhere the drug would be found, but it would then become almost useless as the body can already heal itself.
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by Krystalzkris(f): 7:25pm On Oct 18, 2017
In the meantime, Nigerians are still dragging their children away from school because of rumored immunization. angry grin
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by Gerrard59(m): 11:10pm On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:


The sentence in bold is 100% accurate!.

Giant pharmaceutical companies like Novartis, Pfizer, Roche, Sanofi, Merck & Co., Johnson & Johnson, GlaxoSmithKline, have done their research for years and they have the cure locked up somewhere as classified information. The antiretroviral medicine is no longer profitable as the HIV/AIDS no longer have any effect on humans as before. Soon, out of nowhere the drug would be found, but it would then become almost useless as the body can already heal itself.


This is where I have problem with your assertions. You believe there's a conspiracy program for HIV. Question is: What stops others from researching the cure? Let's omit the West, what about the South Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians? Are you implying westerners told them not to develop the cure?

A poster talked about not having profits in cures. Well, in the long run, yes, however, there can be humongous profits to be made by a firm that wants to discover a cure. Ask Gilead Sciences about Solvadi. The awards, monies, recognition, grants etc a scientist or scientific organisation will benefit from finding the cure defeats any theory of conspiracy. Certainly not when we live in a globalised world and science is global.

On the other hand, cancer, diabetes and Ebola are different diseases and react differently in the body. Cancer is of different types. Don't expect an all-in-one cure.

cc: Setaje
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by Vivere: 11:12pm On Oct 18, 2017
musicwriter:
The body's immune system has already defeated the HIV/AIDS virus, making it powerless even if you have it. The body was designed to work that way from creation. The body always adapt and eventually find a way to get around such situation and has been doing so for millions of years. That's why the human race has been able to survive for millions of years when there were no drugs at all. If such healing power didn't naturally exist, the human race would have gone extinct many years ago.

Western pharmaceutical companies are about to pull something big. Just watch out.
Oga, your ideology is totally flawed. Why do people still die from AIDS, (and other diseases) if the body's immune system has already defeated the HIV/AIDS virus, and other disease-causing micro organisms??

Gerrard59:
How about you ingest yourself with the virus and let's how your body defeats it?
Good question. Unfortunately, his answer was still based on the same flawed premise he has been repeating over and over. I just hope nobody takes him seriously, because his hypothesis is totally warped.
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by musicwriter(m): 12:30am On Oct 19, 2017
Gerrard59:



This is where I have problem with your assertions. You believe there's a conspiracy program for HIV. Question is: What stops others from researching the cure? Let's omit the West, what about the South Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians? Are you implying westerners told them not to develop the cure?

A poster talked about not having profits in cures. Well, in the long run, yes, however, there can be humongous profits to be made by a firm that wants to discover a cure. Ask Gilead Sciences about Solvadi. The awards, monies, recognition, grants etc a scientist or scientific organisation will benefit from finding the cure defeats any theory of conspiracy. Certainly not when we live in a globalised world and science is global.

On the other hand, cancer, diabetes and Ebola are different diseases and react differently in the body. Cancer is of different types. Don't expect an all-in-one cure.

cc: Setaje

That's a good question.

Those multinational pharmaceutical companies are all western owned, and they're all over the world; in Asia, Africa, South and North America, Australia. They are the only type of organizations that have the resources to invest in such research and moreso approve the outcome. Wait........

One thing is having the cure for AIDS, and another is getting it approved as the certified cure.

Look, these companies put together have a monopoly on global health and drug supply. The way the world works is that even if you or Asians or anybody have a cure for AIDS, unless those companies actually approve your research, such research is going nowhere. Even if you have the cure for AIDS, it would remain a claim until they approve it and make the drug . Even if you or any independent Asian have cure for AIDS, it's still going to be called "unapproved" even if people are getting healed. In fact, they'll probably pay you off or employ you, then give you a non-disclosure agreement to sign never to talk about your research ever again. That's how the capitalist pharmaceutical companies work.

In addition to what you quoted earlier, one of the major reason they'll not release the cure is actually so that it don't get copied by the Asians who would quickly mass produce the drugs and make it cost cheap to nothing.
Re: New Research Opens The Door To 'functional Cure' For HIV by Gerrard59(m): 2:50pm On Oct 19, 2017
Vivere:

Oga, your ideology is totally flawed. Why do people still die from AIDS, (and other diseases) if the body's immune system has already defeated the HIV/AIDS virus, and other disease-causing micro organisms??


Good question. Unfortunately, his answer was still based on the same flawed premise he has been repeating over and over. I just hope nobody takes him seriously, because his hypothesis is totally warped.


From my understanding, he thinks every microorganism is a bacteria. Whereas there are also viruses, which are more difficult to treat/cure.

musicwriter:


That's a good question.

Those multinational pharmaceutical companies are all western owned, and they're all over the world; in Asia, Africa, South and North America, Australia. They are the only type of organizations that have the resources to invest in such research and moreso approve the outcome. Wait........

One thing is having the cure for AIDS, and another is getting it approved as the certified cure.

Look, these companies put together have a monopoly on global health and drug supply. The way the world works is that even if you or Asians or anybody have a cure for AIDS, unless those companies actually approve your research, such research is going nowhere. Even if you have the cure for AIDS, it would remain a claim until they approve it and make the drug . Even if you or any independent Asian have cure for AIDS, it's still going to be called "unapproved" even if people are getting healed. In fact, they'll probably pay you off or employ you, then give you a non-disclosure agreement to sign never to talk about your research ever again. That's how the capitalist pharmaceutical companies work.

In addition to what you quoted earlier, one of the major reason they'll not release the cure is actually so that it don't get copied by the Asians who would quickly mass produce the drugs and make it cost cheap to nothing.


Firstly, national drug regulatory organisations approve drugs not companies. FDA in America, EDA in Europe, Japan has hers ditto China. So your claim is false. That FDA does not approve an Asian company's cure does not mean that of India cannot. Drugs are approved nationally not globally.

At bolded, false again. Chinese, Japanese, even Pakistanis have won prizes for developing drugs. So nothing like "unless you know this and that", before your cure is commercialised. There's Takeda, Esiai and host of Asian firms investing, discovering therapies and treatments, ditto cures for diseases. This has nothing to do with the white man or your theories which have no facts to support.

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