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Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 3:57am On Oct 21, 2017
Now, before you mendacious folks doing life in western prison of mendacity start hallucinating with shouts of lies, take time to read through and digest the whole piece. This is where logic comes to play. And the logic is that if a "bird" can cause a serious collision with the f35 two weeks ago, to the extent that it becomes "unoperational" for the time being, why does it still have anything to do with the Syrian battery hit?

2. Israel said the allege bird collision happened two weeks ago prior to the October 16th incident with the Syrian anti Air strikes and counter battery attack: why then was it reported now? No such incident was reported two weeks ago. Get the logic? cool

The logic is very clear. The IDF is trying to hide something but unfortunately, logical reasoning gave them out. The facts doesn't just add up, they were complete lies. That useless flying coffin was hit and the only way they could cover it was claim that a fiticous incidents that happened two weeks back (which never did happened) was responsible for the damaged f35 fighter. Ediots! grin

They wanted to show off to Shoigu that Israel is very active in the scheme of things, but it didn't quite worked out as planned. A Soviet Era SAM, which have an unenviable track record of diagracing overhyped US stealth fighters, have confirmed our worst fear all along. An outdated S-200 damaging the almighty boondoggle f35 is enough justification to hang every single head in Lockheed Martins. Just like the useless patriot missile, the 1996 Serbia downing of the US stealth fighter, the alleged B-2 downing, etc., the f35 is just another addition to the long list of facts that the US is been scammed and possibly sabotaged by the Greedy bastards in the MIC.

I would like to see how my Langley colleagues would explain this. grin

Missy89, Valeriansteel and Co, was Israel trying to hide a fact or not? cool

Great comrades Nairaminted, Zoharariel, scully95, and Co. Moscow must here this. grin

What a waste of $406 billion dollar research work. That money could have eased the increasing numbers of Americans living on food stamp.

Pathetic.

Read the full story below....


ISRAEL IS HIDING THAT ITS STATE-OF-ART F-35 WARPLANE WAS HIT BY SYRIAN S-200 MISSILE – REPORTS
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Illustrative image: Israeli Air Force F-35 warplanes
It looks that the Israeli “demonstration of power” during the recent visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has turned into a total failure.

On October 16, Shoigu arrived Israel for meetings with Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The sides were reportedly set to discuss the situation in the region, including Syria, the fight against terrorism as well as military and technical cooperation.

At the same day, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) claimed that its warplanes targeted an anti-aircraft battery of the Syrian Air Defense Forces that had launched a missile at Israeli aircraft flying over Lebanon.


The IDF added that the Syrian missile didn’t hit any Israeli aircraft.


“The army targeted the battery with four bombs and, according to the IDF, the battery was damaged to the extent it was no longer operational. The army said the battery targeted was the same that fired at Israeli jets last March, prompting Israel make use of its Arrow anti-missile system for the first time,” the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported on the issue.

The Syrian military confirmed the Israeli strikes and said that they caused “material damage.”

It’s interesting to note that, according to the Syrian Defense Ministry statement, Israeli warplanes violated Syria’s airspace on the border with Lebanon in Baalbek area. The incident took place at 8:51 am local time.

Could the Israeli Air Force intentionally provoke the reaction from the Syrian military in order to justify the strike on the Syrian air defense battery?

Furthermore, some pro-Israeli experts and media activists clearly linked the incident with the visit of the Russian defense minister to Tel Aviv saying that it was a nice demonstration of power to the Russian-Iranian-Syrian alliance.

However, something went wrong.

According to the available information, the Syrian Defense Forces used a S-200 missile against the Israeli warplane. This Soviet-made missile is the most advanced long range anti-aircraft system opearated by the Syrian military. Even in this case, it’s old-fashioned in terms of the modern warfare.

Despite this, the Syrian Defense Ministry said in its statement that government forces responded to the violation of the airspace and “directly hit one of the jets, forcing [Israeli aircraft] to retreat.” This statement contradicts to the Israeli claim that “no hit” was confirmed.

Few hours after the missile incident with Syria, the Israeli media reported that the Israeli Air Force’s F-35 stealth multirole fighter went unserviceable as a result of an alleged bird collision during a training flight.

The incident allegedly took place “two weeks ago” but was publicly reported only on October 16. However, Israeli sources were not able to show a photo of the F-35 warplane after the “bird collision”.

Furthermore, it is not clear if the F-35 can become operational again because its stealth coating was damaged. Thus, according to the Israeli version, the warplane reportedly became no longer operational after the bird collision despite the fact that the F-35 earlier passed the bird strike certification with great results (official info here). The F-35 is the world’s most expensive warplane. The price of developing the F-35 is now about $406.5 billion.

Israel is actively buying the world’s self-proclaimed most advanced fighter paying about $100 million for each plane.

So what did really hit the F-35?

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 4:07am On Oct 21, 2017

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by seunny4lif(m): 6:04am On Oct 21, 2017
Appleyard:
Even the Israel that got the f35 flying coffin for free, has been complaining about it for long.
Canada rejected it
US overrated military hardwares are just for defenseless nations like Iraq
US should have try NK and let see what will happen

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 6:55am On Oct 21, 2017
seunny4lif:

Even the Israel that got the f35 flying coffin for free, has been complaining about it for long.
Canada rejected it
US overrated military hardwares are just for defenseless nations like Iraq
US should have try NK and let see what will happen
For Free?
Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 8:55am On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
For Free?

Yes of course. For free.
Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by seunny4lif(m): 9:33am On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
For Free?
Yes
Israel got those F35 for free

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 9:50am On Oct 21, 2017
seunny4lif:
Yes Israel got those F35 for free
How do u mean free?

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by seunny4lif(m): 10:06am On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
How do u mean free?
Google is your friend bro cool

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 10:46am On Oct 21, 2017
seunny4lif:
Google is your friend bro cool
Well... I can ask an expert now..
Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 10:48am On Oct 21, 2017
syria always getting bombed by israel, i do hope u post that too...

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 10:53am On Oct 21, 2017
seunny4lif:

Even the Israel that got the f35 flying coffin for free, has been complaining about it for long.
Canada rejected it
US overrated military hardwares are just for defenseless nations like Iraq
US should have try NK and let see what will happen

Uncle Sam has a long history of overeating while Russia has a history of "under reporting" the capacity of its hardware. Keeping the enemy curious has always been a pattern in Soviet history. Curiosity cloaks the actual capability, and that's the modus operandi in the traditional military life of Russia. So it wasn't surprising we are seeing the same pattern here. While one side does the showmanship and hype, the other simply let the reality speak for itself.

I repeat, Donald Trump should pull the plug on lockheed Martin and some heads should row. That plane is the scam of the 21st century.

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 10:55am On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
syria always getting bombed by israel, i do hope u post that too...

And sometimes their plane has been hit but they keep denying it. Israel has something to worry about in Syria and that's Hezbolla.
Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 11:13am On Oct 21, 2017
I am sure that those still perceiving Amerika as the world's most powerful military force on Earth must be shitting out their intestines by now - out of fear, failure & disappointments. grin

In the event of any war with Russia, this is how all the Amerikan & NATO flying scraps will be knocked off from the skies by unbeatable sophisticated missile defenses from Russia while CNN & BBC will keep doing their hatchet jobs of covering it up. grin

If the serbians could shoot down an F-117 stealthy jet & a B2-Spirit - another stealth with a Russian S-125 back in 1999, Y then do you think that a brand new state-of-the-art “overrated” fighter jet would be able to cope with a 50year old (1966) Russian SAM (S-200) ? grin cheesy grin

Gentlemen, I have said it times without number that - Russia wins all the time.

Just think & imagine what the Russian S-500 has in-stock for all these overrated flying coffins - including the F-22 Raptors. grin

I only pity Countries such as Australia who have bought or ordered (100 units), Denmark (27 units), Italy (60 units), Japan (5 + 37 additional units), Netherlands 8 + 27 units), Turkey (120 units), South Korea (40 units) & Amerika (1, 763 units planned) of the F-35 coffins & the unfortunate pilots who will fly them. Hahahahahahahahaaa grin cheesy grin

Here in Moskow, we don't play! grin

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 11:16am On Oct 21, 2017
Appleyard:


I repeat, Donald Trump should pull the plug on lockheed Martin and some heads should row. That plane is the scam of the 21st century.

Y are you advising Trump? You don't interrupt the enemy when he's making mistakes. grin

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 11:19am On Oct 21, 2017
Where are the f35 fan boys, huh? Can a bird cause the world most expensive multipurpose fighter "unserviceable" or is only a missile that can do that? grin I need answers oooo dear missy89.

Prey tell, does it add up at all? grin A plane that passed the bird certification test with alleged breathtaking results suddenly became unserviceable after an alleged bird collision which allegedly happened two weeks ago but was being reported now after a Syrian S-200 SAM launched at Israeli fighter planes. grin

Can anybody see the connection here? What a babel... ... . grin

Fineguy11, Bonechamberlain, zoharariel, nairaminted, report to base, cyprus000, marvelous000... .. . I need answers oooo.

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 11:19am On Oct 21, 2017
Zoharariel:


Y are you advising Trump? You don't interrupt the enemy when he's making mistakes. grin
Napoleon Bonaparte, a superman and a monster. No sane man dare ignores the advice of such a deity. grin

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 11:22am On Oct 21, 2017
Appleyard:


And sometimes their plane has been hit but they keep denying it. Israel has something to worry about in Syria and that's Hezbolla.
that's if it was really hit... a war with israel its no joke they can do anything to win becos they must ask Egypt, iraq, yemen,lebanon and many of them. EGYPT fought israel for the sinai and today they can't even keep terrorist out from it my point is syria should not use the golan height as a reason to hate israel becos they hated them from the start...
Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 11:26am On Oct 21, 2017
Appleyard:
Where are the f35 fan boys, huh? Can a bird cause a the world most expensive multiprocessor fighter "unserviceable" or is only a missile that can do that? grin I need answers oooo dear missy89.

Prey tell, does it add up at all? grin A plane that passed the bird certification test with alleged breathtaking results suddenly became unserviceable after an alleged bird collision which allegedly happened two weeks ago but was being reported now after a Syrian S-200 SAM launched at Israeli fighter planes. grin

Can anybody see the connection here? What a babel... ... . grin

Fineguy11, Bonechamberlain, zoharariel, nairaminted, report to base, cyprus000, marvelous000... .. . I need answers oooo.
So American "technical superiority" is a propaganda based on overhyped toys, designed only for pomp and ceremony. Holy Mary. grin

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 12:51pm On Oct 21, 2017
Zoharariel:
I am sure that those still perceiving Amerika as the world's most powerful military force on Earth must be shitting out their intestines by now - out of fear, failure & disappointments. grin

In the event of any war with Russia, this is how all the Amerikan & NATO flying scraps will be knocked off from the skies by unbeatable sophisticated missile defenses from Russia while CNN & BBC will keep doing their hatchet jobs of covering it up. grin



The Ediots keep showing off their folly for the world to see. If traditional allies and NATO member states like Satan Arabia, Turkey and Greece (who operates the S-300) are gunning for Russian S-400, it is enough for the suicide mission-bound nations who have ordered the f-35 flying coffins to realize that they are simply throwing away their money. If an outdated SAM like the S-200 can spot and score a hit against the f35, one wonder what the S-300 and S-400 would do. No wonder Israel was fiercely and practically begging Russia not to give Syria the S-300.grin I have lost count of how many times Benjamin Netanyahoo has traveled the Moscow route trying to pressure Putin from giving Syria the S-300. Now, we have seen the result and the reasons behind all those trips. grin

What a pathetic bunch.



If the serbians could shoot down an F-117 stealthy jet & a B2-Spirit - another stealth with a Russian S-125 back in 1999, Y then do you think that a brand new state-of-the-art “overrated” fighter jet would be able to cope with a 50year old (1966) Russian SAM (S-200) ? grin cheesy grin

Gentlemen, I have said it times without number that - Russia wins all the time.

Just think & imagine what the Russian S-500 has in-stock for all these overrated flying coffins - including the F-22 Raptors. grin

I command you to withdraw that insult... grin the S-500? When they can't even get past the S-300 and S-400 yet? Why do you think Israel was begging Russia not to give the S-300 to Syria since the brouhaha started? That thing would have got the entire territory of Israel covered and in closed range. Ask yourself, why would a NATO member state like Turkey be gunning for the S-400? Because their military planners knew about its capabilities and how it has been "painting" all US planes flying in Syria sky, and we know the F22 raptor has been flying over there also. cheesy Even the US DoD attested to this fact in one of their complaints about Russia's capabilities in Syria.

So bringing the S-500 to this charade is an insult to the weapon and the alienic brain behind it. cheesy are you not aware that the S-500 can take out satellites in space? The raptor and the f35 fighters are already dead on arrival. Do you know that the F22 raptor flies 7hours in the sky and spend the next 72hours on the ground doing its manicure? grin grin

The US so-called advanced 5th generation fighters are bunch of jokes that would fit in well in Mr Bean comedy shows. The F16, f18 etc,. are way better. cheesy






I only pity Countries such as Australia who have bought or ordered (100 units), Denmark (27 units), Italy (60 units), Japan (5 + 37 additional units), Netherlands 8 + 27 units), Turkey (120 units), South Korea (40 units) & Amerika (1, 763 units planned) of the F-35 coffins & the unfortunate pilots who will fly them. Hahahahahahahahaaa grin cheesy grin

Here in Moskow, we don't play! grin

They have already signed contracts and it's regrettably lugubrous that some human beings will be burying themselves as dead pilots in flying coffins...

As for Russia playing by the rules, no surprise here. Russian weapons are made to work., and work they do. Give it up for the sons of Russia, the alien descendants of Kal El.. .. . cool cool

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 12:55pm On Oct 21, 2017
ZandhaZaraZ:
Napoleon Bonaparte, a superman and a monster. No sane man dare ignores the advice of such a deity. grin

What an epic disgrace across Syria.... grin

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 1:00pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
that's if it was really hit... a war with israel its no joke they can do anything to win becos they must ask Egypt, iraq, yemen,lebanon and many of them. EGYPT fought israel for the sinai and today they can't even keep terrorist out from it my point is syria should not use the golan height as a reason to hate israel becos they hated them from the start...

The Golan Height is an issue but the real reason behind Israel's incursion into Syria is fear of Hezbolla getting stronger. They also want Assad out to pave the way for the pipeline passage. And that's is the primary reason why Russia has intervened.

The plane was hit, period. Even a blind man knew the IDF is trying hard to cover something. cheesy

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 1:27pm On Oct 21, 2017
Appleyard:


The Golan Height is an issue but the real reason behind Israel's incursion into Syria is fear of Hezbolla getting stronger. They also want Assad out to pave the way for the pipeline passage. And that's is the primary reason why Russia has intervened.

The plane was hit, period. Even a blind man knew the IDF is trying hard to cover something. cheesy
the bitter truth is that it was not hit my a missile, can the blind c?, Lolz u think hezbollah can defeat israel u better think again.

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 1:32pm On Oct 21, 2017
Appleyard:


The Golan Height is an issue but the real reason behind Israel's incursion into Syria is fear of Hezbolla getting stronger. They also want Assad out to pave the way for the pipeline passage. And that's is the primary reason why Russia has intervened.

The plane was hit, period. Even a blind man knew the IDF is trying hard to cover something. cheesy
Lolz u probably don't knw u need the golan height to invade israel, so its very important for israel existent.

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by seunny4lif(m): 1:51pm On Oct 21, 2017
Appleyard:


The Golan Height is an issue but the real reason behind Israel's incursion into Syria is fear of Hezbolla getting stronger. They also want Assad out to pave the way for the pipeline passage. And that's is the primary reason why Russia has intervened.

The plane was hit, period. Even a blind man knew the IDF is trying hard to cover something. cheesy
You want argue with that guy?
Lol
Save your time ooooooh

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 1:55pm On Oct 21, 2017
ZandhaZaraZ:
So American "technical superiority" is a propaganda based on overhyped toys, designed only for pomp and ceremony. Holy Mary. grin

Are you doubting it? cheesy everything about uncle SAM has been a circus show, especially when they're faced with tougher opponents.

Let me refresh your memory a bit. cheesy

1. In 1999, Serbia shot down an American stealth fighter-the f-117 using a 1966 Soviet made SAM. This was followed by the downing of the overhyped B-2 spirit of Missouri, which as usual, they denied, but facts on the ground confirmed it.

2. In 2007, a Chinese song class submarine destroyed the myth that a US fleet carrier cannot be "reach" by enemy subs or ship without being noticed. But that fateful day, the US navy and one of their fleet carrier battle group were conducting a live fire training exercise during which every sensor and computer systems were switched on. The Chinese sub then passed the other ships unnoticed and surfaced right behind the fleet carrier. When the Americans saw it, they were totally disappointed and angry. cheesy

What does it mean? If it were to be in a real war scenario, the Chinese submarine (which was modeled after the Russian kilo Klass sub) would easily have destroyed the entire thing without be noticed. That was how that overhyped and overrated floating Bathroom unreachable myth was solely and effectively dissipated. grin

3. In 2015, the US fleet carrier battle ship, Theodore Roosevelt, was chased by Russian submarines from the black sea after venturing too close to Russian territorial waters. The ship ran away from the Russia subs which were using the alleged Maghreb technology, and anchored by the sea shore of HAMPSHIRE to the surprise of the town people who wake up to see the giant ship gasping for breath right in their backyard. Of course, the unashamed liars said they stopped there because there was no port for them in the town to belt. The question is, why would such a ship with state-of-the-art technology and communications anchor by the sea shore of a town that has no port for it, when there are better ports of call in Manchester and London? grin

A liar is always a liar.

4. In that same year, Iran shot down an Israeli stealth fighter drone-the one that flew over Iran's nuclear site. They also commandeered and captured alive a US stealth drone, which happens to be the most sophisticated in US military arsenals. Even the Chinese came and did a copy of their own from the feast through reversed ENGINEERING. grin

And now, the f35.. .. They keep giving while trying desperately to lie their way out of it. I don't even need to mentioned the useless Patriot missiles that could not even shoot down a single Russian made drone that enters Israeli territory last year. cheesy

So gentlemen, while the US is good in weaponry, their success rates and selling points are based overwhelmingly on propaganda rather than actual test reality.

Don't also forget that back in 2015, there was a NATO TRAINING Section between top NATO ally countries, and during that exercise, the French navy, using a 30-year old submarine, sunk an American fleet carrier, and took some accompying ships with it. cheesy The bad a*s French navy even published the result on their website but removed it after two days to please the US embarrassment.

Now you can see that the same pattern is being played over and over again. When the reality happens, they always look for a way to cover it up, and the gullible are quick to believe it. But logical minds like us don't cause we know how America works. Thriving on propaganda has always been the main theme all along.


Pathetic.

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 2:27pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
the bitter truth is that it was not hit my a missile, can the blind c?, Lolz u think hezbollah can defeat israel u better think again.

Don't be stupid (no offense). Let us even assume for a second that the F-35 was not hit by the S-200 but by the bird's collision narrative as being propagated in the Zionist media.

Doesn't your brain tell you that if a $400Billion flying rust-bucket can be rendered unserviceable by a bird collision, then it surely means that the best way to defeating the F-35 flying brick is neither the Russian S-300s nor S-400s - but by a flock of vicious homing pigeons or flamingos. Hahahahahaaa! grin cheesy grin

Again, a news blackout in the western MSM like CNN & BBC indicates that the axis of evil have indeed taken a huge kick in their scrotum. grin cheesy grin

Where is Missy89, CSTR1000, Mazeltovscotty & that Jewish boy - ValerianSteel? grin cheesy grin

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 3:32pm On Oct 21, 2017
Appleyard:


Are you doubting it? cheesy everything about uncle SAM has been a circus show, especially when they're faced with tougher opponents.

L set me refresh you a bit. cheesy

1. In 1999, Serbia shot down an American stealth figher-the f-117 using a 1966 Soviet made SAM. This was followed by the downing of the overhyped B-2 spirit of Missouri, which as usual, the denied, but facts on the ground confirmed it.

2. In 2007, a Chinese song class submarine destroyed the myth that a US fleet career cannot be "reach" by enemy subs or ship without being noticed. But that fateful day, the US navy and of their fleet carrier were conducting a live fire training during which every sensor and computer systems were switched on. The Chinese sub then passed the other ships unnoticed and surfaced right behind the fleet carrier. When the Americans saw it, they were totally disappointed and angry. cheesy

What does it mean? If it were to be in a real war scenario, the the Chinese submarine (which was modeled after the Russian kilo Klass sub) would easily have destroyed the entire thing without be noticed. That was how that overhyped and overrated floating Bathroom unreachable myth was solely and effectively dissipated. grin

3. In 2015, the US fleet carrier battle ship, Theodore Roosevelt, was chased by Russian submarines from the black sea after venturing too close to Russian territorial waters. The ship ran away from the Russia subs which were using the allege Maghreb technology, and anchored by the sea shore of HAMPSHIRE to the surprise of the town people who wake up to see the giant ship gasping for breath right in their backyard. of course, the the ashamed liars said they belted they stopped there because there was no port for them in the town to belt. The question is, why would such a ship with state-of-the-art technology and communications anchors by the sea shore of a town that has no port for it, when there are better ports of call in Manchester and London? grin

A liar is always a liar.

4. In that same year, Iran shot down an Israeli stealth figher-the one over Iran's nuclear site. They also commandeered and captured alive a US stealth drone, which happens to be the most sophisticated in US military arsenals. Even the Chinese came and did a copy of their own from the feast through reversed ENGINEERING. grin

And now, the f35.. .. They keep giving while trying desperately to lie their way out of it. I don't even need to mentioned the useless Patriot missiles that could not even shoot down a single Russian made drone that enters Israeli territory last year. cheesy

So gentlemen, while the US is good in weaponry, their success rates and selling points are based overwhelmingly on propaganda rather than actual test reality.

Don't also forget that back in 2015, there was NATO TRAINING Section between top NATO ally countries, and during that exercise, the FRENCH using a 30-gear old submarine sunk an American fleet carrier, and took some accompying ships with it. cheesy The bad assumption French even published the result on their website but removed it after two days to please the US embarrassment.

Now you can see that the same pattern is being played over and over again. When the reality happens, they always look for a way to cover it up, and the gullible are quick to believe it. But logical minds like us don't cause we know how America works. Thriving in propaganda has always been the main theme all along.


Pathetic.
grin grin grin Almighty PAPER TIGER! grin grin grin

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by seunny4lif(m): 6:07pm On Oct 21, 2017
Appleyard:


Are you doubting it? cheesy everything about uncle SAM has been a circus show, especially when they're faced with tougher opponents.

L set me refresh you a bit. cheesy

1. In 1999, Serbia shot down an American stealth figher-the f-117 using a 1966 Soviet made SAM. This was followed by the downing of the overhyped B-2 spirit of Missouri, which as usual, the denied, but facts on the ground confirmed it.

2. In 2007, a Chinese song class submarine destroyed the myth that a US fleet career cannot be "reach" by enemy subs or ship without being noticed. But that fateful day, the US navy and of their fleet carrier were conducting a live fire training during which every sensor and computer systems were switched on. The Chinese sub then passed the other ships unnoticed and surfaced right behind the fleet carrier. When the Americans saw it, they were totally disappointed and angry. cheesy

What does it mean? If it were to be in a real war scenario, the the Chinese submarine (which was modeled after the Russian kilo Klass sub) would easily have destroyed the entire thing without be noticed. That was how that overhyped and overrated floating Bathroom unreachable myth was solely and effectively dissipated. grin

3. In 2015, the US fleet carrier battle ship, Theodore Roosevelt, was chased by Russian submarines from the black sea after venturing too close to Russian territorial waters. The ship ran away from the Russia subs which were using the allege Maghreb technology, and anchored by the sea shore of HAMPSHIRE to the surprise of the town people who wake up to see the giant ship gasping for breath right in their backyard. of course, the the ashamed liars said they belted they stopped there because there was no port for them in the town to belt. The question is, why would such a ship with state-of-the-art technology and communications anchors by the sea shore of a town that has no port for it, when there are better ports of call in Manchester and London? grin

A liar is always a liar.

4. In that same year, Iran shot down an Israeli stealth figher-the one over Iran's nuclear site. They also commandeered and captured alive a US stealth drone, which happens to be the most sophisticated in US military arsenals. Even the Chinese came and did a copy of their own from the feast through reversed ENGINEERING. grin

And now, the f35.. .. They keep giving while trying desperately to lie their way out of it. I don't even need to mentioned the useless Patriot missiles that could not even shoot down a single Russian made drone that enters Israeli territory last year. cheesy

So gentlemen, while the US is good in weaponry, their success rates and selling points are based overwhelmingly on propaganda rather than actual test reality.

Don't also forget that back in 2015, there was NATO TRAINING Section between top NATO ally countries, and during that exercise, the FRENCH using a 30-gear old submarine sunk an American fleet carrier, and took some accompying ships with it. cheesy The bad assumption French even published the result on their website but removed it after two days to please the US embarrassment.

Now you can see that the same pattern is being played over and over again. When the reality happens, they always look for a way to cover it up, and the gullible are quick to believe it. But logical minds like us don't cause we know how America works. Thriving in propaganda has always been the main theme all along.


Pathetic.

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by seunny4lif(m): 6:08pm On Oct 21, 2017
ZandhaZaraZ:
grin grin grin Almighty PAPER TIGER! grin grin grin

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Nobody: 6:09pm On Oct 21, 2017
Zoharariel:


Don't be stupid (no offense). Let us even assume for a second that the F-35 was not hit by the S-200 but by the bird's collision narrative as being propagated in the Zionist media.

Doesn't your brain tell you that if a $400Billion flying rust-bucket can be rendered unserviceable by a bird collision, then it surely means that the best way to defeating the F-35 flying brick is neither the Russian S-300s nor S-400s - but by a flock of vicious homing pigeons or flamingos. Hahahahahaaa! grin cheesy grin

Again, a news blackout in the western MSM like CNN & BBC indicates that the axis of evil have indeed taken a huge kick in their scrotum. grin cheesy grin

Where is Missy89, CSTR1000, Mazeltovscotty & that Jewish boy - ValerianSteel? grin cheesy grin
ur hate 4 israel does not stop them from bombing, syria again and again. syria have never shutdown an israeli jet since the syria war they even lost a war in 6 days and now they want to claim they shut an F-35.

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 9:36pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
the bitter truth is that it was not hit my a missile, can the blind c?, Lolz u think hezbollah can defeat israel u better think again.

Sorry to disappoint u. The plane was hit big time. What else can stop the f35 from being serviceable. Don't tell me you believe the bird fallacy? I would be disappointed.. grin

Have you forgotten so soon the wound Hezbolla inflicted on Israel in 2006? Go get your facts before u argue. That Israel are God's chosen people doesn't mean they can't lose a war. Get that right.

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Re: Israel 's F-35 Disgraced By Soviet S-200 In Syria by Appleyard(m): 9:41pm On Oct 21, 2017
Ikio:
Lolz u probably don't knw u need the golan height to invade israel, so its very important for israel existent.

You don't need the Golan Heights to invade Israel what happened to the sky and sea, lol? And besides did Syria tell you they want to invade Israel? What for?

The Golan Heights became a major territorial bone of contention between Israel and Syria due to the availability of oil/mineral deposits in it.

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