JackBizzle:
As discussed earlier, Butterflyl1on and I are going to have a debate on the topic;


Atheism VS Christianity, Which One Is A Result Of Indoctrination?


I believe that there is steep indoctrination in christianity while Butterflyl1on believes it is the other way around. So, let the debate start.

Please, no insults.

According to the University of Cambridge, historically, the "most notable spread of atheism was achieved through the success of the 1917 Russian Revolution, which brought the Marxist-Leninists to power."[2] Vitalij Lazarʹevič Ginzburg, a Soviet physicist, wrote that the "Bolshevik communists were not merely atheists but, according to Lenin's terminology, militant atheists."[3]

The Reign of Terror of the French Revolution established a state which was anti-Roman Catholicism/Christian in nature [4] (anti-clerical deism and anti-religious atheism and played a significant role in the French Revolution[5][6]), with the official ideology being the Cult of Reason; during this time thousands of believers were suppressed and executed by the guillotine.[7]

There is a balancing act and you have to balance the rights of parents and the rights of children, and I think the balance has swung too far towards parents,” Dawkins told the Irish Times. “Children do need to be protected so that they can have a proper education and not be indoctrinated in whatever religion their parents happen to have been brought up in.”

He added, "You have to write off those people" who value the Bible over science.

KingEbukasBlog:
butterflyl1on. sir mbok , I beg you , let me take your place in this debate . To utterly destroy this guy is sweeting me now . You are way too big for him anyway .Let me finish him off completely into oblivion. mbok

KingEbukasBlog:
butterflyl1on. sir mbok , I beg you , let me take your place in this debate . To utterly destroy this guy is sweeting me now . You are way too big for him anyway .Let me finish him off completely into oblivion. mbok

Dalam0n:


I will love to participate in this debate. We can make it a two way thing you and butterflylion against me and JackBizzle. Drop your points I drop mine and the we counter each other's point's. No insult just simple dropping of points and countering of the points dropped.

butterflyl1on:


Leave jackbizzle he never reasons far enough to be taken seriously anyway.

chemystery:
When you say assassination simply means killing , then it will be right if someone say "I assassinated a ram for Ramadan celebration".

This is pointing out the insincerity and skewing of the true meaning of indoctrination by butterflyl1on with the motive of placing atheism in the same umbrella with Christianity.

Indoctrination simply means to teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs with no room for criticism or consideration of whether what is being taught is right or wrong.

Teaching someone how to think deep, rationally or critically cannot be defined as indoctrination since it gives room for logical reasoning, evaluation of data and facts before arriving at a conclusion.

butterflyl1on:


Kindly stop disrupting.

To understand any word. Go to its source.

View the attached and stop disrupting

This is from Merriam Webster dictionary

ALL MY LIFE,
I'VE NEVER KNOWN A MAN MORE ADDICTED TO LOSING LIKE YOU.
YOU'RE MORE THAN ADDICTED, LOSING IS IN YOUR DNA.
YOU SAY EVERYTHING WRONGLY AND DON'T EVER GET ANYTHING RIGHT.
YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE THE MOST FLAWED, AND I THINK YOU'RE THE DUMBEST IN THE LAND.
I USED TO THINK YOU'RE THE JOKER TYPE BUT I GOT TO LATER FIND OUT, THAT THIS IS THE REAL YOU.

YOUR SLAVE ANCESTORS ARE UNIMPRESSED.

butterflyl1on:



Indoctrination simply means TO TEACH!

Indoctrination is not a religious thing but indoctrination is found in ALL AREAS OF life including atheism. Just as I started off saying, indoctrination simply means TO TEACH

Dalam0n:
When you begin by dishonestly defining words, then you shouldn't expect anybody to take you seriously.




To teach what?

There is no dictionary anywhere that defines indoctrination only as meaning to teach.


Indoctrination does not mean only to teach as you are trying to claim.

I will give you a dictionary definition of indoctrination.

indoctrination
ɪnˌdɒktrɪˈneɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
1. the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.
"I would never subject children to religious indoctrination".

2 :to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle.



False, indoctrination does not mean to teach.
The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines indoctrination as:

"To imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle."

This is very different as simply saying to teach.

CAPSLOCKED:




ALL MY LIFE,
I'VE NEVER KNOWN A MAN MORE ADDICTED TO LOSING LIKE YOU.
YOU'RE MORE THAN ADDICTED, LOSING IS IN YOUR DNA.
YOU SAY EVERYTHING WRONGLY AND DON'T EVER GET ANYTHING RIGHT.
YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE THE MOST FLAWED, AND I THINK YOU'RE THE DUMBEST IN THE LAND.
I USED TO THINK YOU'RE THE JOKER TYPE BUT I GOT TO LATER FIND OUT, THAT THIS IS THE REAL YOU.

YOUR SLAVE ANCESTORS ARE UNIMPRESSED.

butterflyl1on:


Kindly stop disrupting.

To understand any word. Go to its source.

View the attached and stop disrupting

This is from Merriam Webster dictionary

chemystery:

It is not by posting images?

Also see synonyms and the definition labelled archaic.

butterflyl1on:


I have responded to both you and chemystery above. You can stop disrupting now. ANYTHING THOUGHT IS INDOCTRINATION BE IT DOCTRINE, DOCUMENTS. ACADEMIA, ETC.

butterflyl1on:


Indoctrination simply means TO TEACH!

butterflyl1on:


Please stop disrupting.

indoctrinate [ in-dok-truh-neyt ]
Main Entry: indoctrinate
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: brainwash
Synonyms: break down, convince, drill, ground, imbue, implant, inculcate, influence, initiate, instill, instruct, plant, program, school, teach, train, work over


http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/indoctrinate

Dalam0n:


You did not respond to anything. Even the document you posted clearly said that was the OLD definition of indoctrination. It Cleary said that from the 19th century the definition of the word had changed.

butterflyl1on:


Please stop disrupting.

indoctrinate [ in-dok-truh-neyt ]
Main Entry: indoctrinate
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: brainwash
Synonyms: break down, convince, drill, ground, imbue, implant, inculcate, influence, initiate, instill, instruct, plant, program, school, teach, train, work over


http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/indoctrinate

budaatum:

You are deceiving yourself. Please make sure you read the definition of Indoctrination. It does not simply mean, "to teach"!

‘Now, what I want is, Facts.  Teach these boys and girls nothing but Facts.  Facts alone are wanted in life.  Plant nothing else, and root out everything else.  You can only form the minds of reasoning animals upon Facts: nothing else will ever be of any service to them.  This is the principle on which I bring up my own children, and this is the principle on which I bring up these children.  Stick to Facts, sir!’ Hard Times, by Charles Dickens

Dalam0n:


But this one defines it as brainwash, so where do that leave you na?

Dalam0n:


But this one defines it as brainwash, so where do that leave you na?

chemystery:
It's evident you can't take up an argument without bring in lies and insincerity.
Teach is synonym for indoctrinate but not the nearest in meaning just like kill is synonym of assassinate but not nearest in meaning.

butterflyl1on:


Jackbizzle I believe you invited me to this debate and not all this disturbance. If you wish to condone this nonsense then I will leave.

If anyone cannot understand a simple post and wishes to just troll in ignorance then dalaman stop distracting me with your obvious ignorance.