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We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by KingSango(m): 4:31pm On Nov 03, 2017


Dogun Empire

Axumite Empire

Kushite Empire

Zagwe Dynasty

Ajuuraan empire

Kingdom of Gomma

Kingdom of Jimma

Kingdom of Gumma

The Nok Civilization

The Kingdom of NRI

The OYO Empire

Benin Empire

Kaabu Empire

Mali Empire

Kongo Empire

Bunyoro Kitara

Tooro Kingdom

Buganda Kingdom

Asante Union

The Dogomba Kingdom

The Dahomey Empire

The King Empire

The Bamana Empire

The Wassoulou Empire

The Zulu Empire

Oyotunji Kingdom

Gullah Gee Chee Nation

Ankole Kingdom

HIMA-TUTSI EMPIRE




Return of the Gods of light:

http://undergroundriseup.blogspot.com/2017/04/bunyoro-kitara-empire-of-light-bachwezi.html

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Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by Hati13(m): 6:17pm On Nov 03, 2017
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Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by Moorish: 6:02pm On Aug 10, 2018
Well that’s cool but the moors were most successful

Moors actually had a civilization( art, architecture, garments, weapons, tech )

So you have a moorish civilization

I am also proud of the Kushitic civilization
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by Hati13(m): 7:41pm On Aug 10, 2018
Of the above listed, Aksumite, Zagwe, Gomma, Gumma and Jimma were Ethiopian civilizations. Solomonic/Abyssinia (not listed above though) was also an Ethiopian civilization. There were also many other Ethiopian civilizations like Punt, Damat, Ifat, Adal, Harla/Harar, Damot, etc....

During the peak of Aksumite empire, it was considered one of the 3 great power along Rome and Persia.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by velmajdennis: 7:47pm On Oct 11, 2018
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Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by morpheus24: 11:38pm On Oct 11, 2018
Moorish:
Well that’s cool but the moors were most successful

Moors actually had a civilization( art, architecture, garments, weapons, tech )

So you have a moorish civilization

I am also proud of the Kushitic civilization

The moors were more successful conquerors aided by the Islamic expansion period in the Magreb, therefore they are technically not an African civilization.

The Kushites in contrast originated inside Africa tried expansionist moves outside the continent
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by morpheus24: 11:41pm On Oct 11, 2018
Hati13:
Of the above listed, Aksumite, Zagwe, Gomma, Gumma and Jimma were Ethiopian civilizations. Solomonic/Abyssinia (not listed above though) was also an Ethiopian civilization. There were also many other Ethiopian civilizations like Punt, Damat, Ifat, Adal, Harla/Harar, Damot, etc....

During the peak of Aksumite empire, it was considered one of the 3 great power along Rome and Persia.

When you say Ethiopian civilizations, do you mean the "Ethiopians" in its current usage and geographical expression?
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by KingSango(m): 12:36am On Oct 12, 2018
Caucasians are not indigenous to Europe because the original Europeans were Africans. They are called Caucasians because they came from out of the Caucasus Mountains, their ancestors were Neanderthals.

https://www.nairaland.com/4672551/pres.george-washington-american-1st-president
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by KingSango(m): 1:03am On Oct 12, 2018
morpheus24:


1. your source for this is "Queen Sheba III's stories or actual archaeological evidence to prove this. Hmmm?
2. Why did God create the African first and then the other so called races second, what was the intended plan, for the Africa to rule always, if he created the other races later on isn't also his plan for them to rule now. Hmmm




1. The first part of this statement "Did man evolve from ape is misleading. no scientist will ever pose that question. The correct premise would be Did man evolve from a common ancestor with the great apes. Two different things

2. The second part of the above statement as regards Neanderthal DNA in humans is correct based on the ongoing Genome project.

3. You are not coherent, did God "create" African man first or did he evolve, you state one thing and then provide evidence for another thing.





Complete Gibberish

Neanderthals are not part monkey or part anything for that matter, they are archaic humans in contrast to Modern anatomical humans (Sapiens). The two species interbred with each other but the homo sapien genes intro-gressed( meaning the Homo sapien DNA derived from the Africans continued to dominate and express themselves) in the populations outside of Africa and the Neanderthal DNA died out. Do you understand what that means?

Sub Saharan Africans may also have very ancient no Homo Sapien ( Modern man DNA in them as well derived from another Hominid called Homo Heidlebergensis and tests have been done in west African where a population in Camerous showed a sign of this at a 1- 2 % degree, therefore that 100% African thing is pseudo science and simply a narrative used to drive a specific narrative or Agenda. That's not what the science says.


Please polish up properly on your theories, you are everywhere with it.



1. The Neanderthal is a hominid....you might want to look at the definition before you rule it out. grin


hom·i·nid
ˈhäməˌnid/
nounZoology
noun: hominid; plural noun: hominids

a primate of a family ( Hominidae ) that includes humans and their fossil ancestors and also (in recent systems) at least some of the great apes.

Primate definition:

Primate
Animal
A primate is a mammal of the order Primates. In taxonomy, primates include two distinct lineages, strepsirrhines and haplorhines. Primates arose from ancestors that lived in the trees of tropical forests; many primate characteristics represent adaptations to life in this challenging environment. Wikipedia
Order: Primates; Linnaeus, 1758
Class: Mammalia
Scientific name: Primates
Rank: Order
Higher classification: Primatomorpha

True man and primates are two different species. grin Just because they are similar or close in DNA doesn't make them the same. Sea snakes are not fish. grin

Queen Sheba is royal bloodline, meaning that there is a royal family, a huge one where the next heir is chosen from this line. Africans practice polygamy to ensure there were plenty of heirs. grin Queen Sheba is the daughter of King Nimrod who ruled the entire world even the Bible says he ruled the entire world. Well Nimrod was cursed by God for his wanting to be God. He was cursed with no male heir, maybe they were too aggressive so God pass it to his daughter Queen Sheba the first. She was the ruler of all of Egypt which included Babylon which today is in the MiddleEast. This bloodline still continues and has never been broken meaning without an heir to the Candace.

One of the Queen Shebas is buried in Nigeria.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRkwJS67NBw

Stop buying into Caucasian scientists. They are telling you the same story yet in reverse. They are saying that all mankind evolved from Apes and Monkeys. Then they are saying the African came first meaning we are connected to the savage, meaning animal. Then they are saying they are the evolution of that line. They are saying slightly same thing yet in reverse. Yet despite this new DNA evidence they are still teaching Darwinism in schools and universities all over the Earth. Africans come from God and Ancient Africans manipulated hominid DNA to created human hybrids which are the other races. There is no Neanderthal DNA in Sub Sahara Africans which are unmixed because of their location away from Caucasians and Asians.

What Charles Darwin actually said:

The Western nations of Europe . . . now so immeasurably surpass their former savage progenitors [that they] stand at the summit of civilization. . . . The civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races through the world.

There he's saying Africans came first and we are animals. Read it. grin

Yakubs Tamahu-manzee


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDCjhf7tWP0

Even in the Bible they are teaching the same thing....

“[Noah] drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the unclothedness of his father, and told his two brethren . . . And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.”​
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by KingSango(m): 1:20am On Oct 12, 2018
morpheus24:


1. your source for this is "Queen Sheba III's stories or actual archaeological evidence to prove this. Hmmm?
2. Why did God create the African first and then the other so called races second, what was the intended plan, for the Africa to rule always, if he created the other races later on isn't also his plan for them to rule now. Hmmm




1. The first part of this statement "Did man evolve from ape is misleading. no scientist will ever pose that question. The correct premise would be Did man evolve from a common ancestor with the great apes. Two different things

2. The second part of the above statement as regards Neanderthal DNA in humans is correct based on the ongoing Genome project.

3. You are not coherent, did God "create" African man first or did he evolve, you state one thing and then provide evidence for another thing.





Complete Gibberish

Neanderthals are not part monkey or part anything for that matter, they are archaic humans in contrast to Modern anatomical humans (Sapiens). The two species interbred with each other but the homo sapien genes intro-gressed( meaning the Homo sapien DNA derived from the Africans continued to dominate and express themselves) in the populations outside of Africa and the Neanderthal DNA died out. Do you understand what that means?

Sub Saharan Africans may also have very ancient no Homo Sapien ( Modern man DNA in them as well derived from another Hominid called Homo Heidlebergensis and tests have been done in west African where a population in Camerous showed a sign of this at a 1- 2 % degree, therefore that 100% African thing is pseudo science and simply a narrative used to drive a specific narrative or Agenda. That's not what the science says.


Please polish up properly on your theories, you are everywhere with it.



The Caucasian Freemasons studied Egypt and they saw the Temple of Seti walls where it was painted the story of how East Africans created hybrid humans by mixing them with hominids.

So they started reversing the story during slavery and colonization and they still teach this nonsense in schools all over the world. It is not true we came from Apes only they came from Neanderthals and DNA proves it. All those text books need to change.

All the Bibles need to change with all the cursing of Africans in the old testament.

Does evolution teach that black people are closer to primates than white people?
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I would like to defer from the common answer on this posting. Genetics testing has shown that there are groups of people that have much more in common with primitive apes than other humans.

Surprise though: it is everyone who left Africa!

It turns out that between 60 and 40,000 years ago when our ancestors began to leave Africa they began to meet and breed with other near human species such as Neanderthals. Neanderthals are closer to other apes like chimpanzees and gorillas. In fact this testing has shown that about 5% of the DNA of those native to regions other than Africa comes from the Neanderthals.

It kind of a turns around the old ideas of evolutionary racism to know that we of European, Sino, Indian, Native American and Polynesian decent are just a little bit closer to monkeys than the Africans have been for about 200,000 years.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by Walamu(m): 1:29am On Oct 12, 2018
KingSango:



The Caucasian Freemasons Jean-François Champollion studied Egyptian Hieroglyphs and he saw the Temple of Seti walls where it was painted the story of how East Africans created hybrid humans by mixing them with hominids. What Jean-François Champollion disturbed him so that they redid the whole temple to hide this truth. grin

So they started reversing the story during slavery and colonization and they still teach this nonsense in schools all over the world. It is not true we came from Apes only they came from Neanderthals and DNA proves it. All those text books need to change.

All the Bibles need to change with all the cursing of Africans in the old testament.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by morpheus24: 2:04am On Oct 12, 2018
^^^^

Since you don't even know the building blocks of evolution or anything that has to do with genetics who anthropology I will be wasting my time.


I will leave you with one question which if you can explain coherently or logically we can continue

If Africans came from monkeys, did they come directly from monkeys to become humans or was it a process?

and if it was a process then how did that process come to be. If they came from God, by what process did they come to be.

Answering this question will pretty much explain your whole reasoning process.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by KingSango(m): 11:01am On Oct 12, 2018
morpheus24:
^^^^

Since you don't even know the building blocks of evolution or anything that has to do with genetics who anthropology I will be wasting my time.


I will leave you with one question which if you can explain coherently or logically we can continue

If Africans came from monkeys, did they come directly from monkeys to become humans or was it a process?

and if it was a process then how did that process come to be. If they came from God, by what process did they come to be.

Answering this question will pretty much explain your whole reasoning process.

The DNA is a silent witness.

African royal families say they came from God Himself.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by morpheus24: 3:35pm On Oct 12, 2018
KingSango:


The DNA is a silent witness.

Afican royal families say they came from God Himself.

Anyone can fabricate stories of their origins. Where is the evidence.

DNA is evidence not heresay!

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Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by KingSango(m): 3:51pm On Oct 12, 2018
morpheus24:


Anyone can fabricate stories of their origins. Where is the evidence.

DNA is evidence not heresay!


And what would be the purpose of Africans fabricating history? There is no motivation for the people who established civilization and settled on every land on Earth before other races to fabricate history. No, the only people who fabricate are those who didn't come first, whose history is short, and whose civilization is but a mere copy of the African.

You are too narcissistic to speak with and I've spoken to you before and ran into the same issue. There's is no common ground with Biblical believers who are just basically Catholics. If you believe in that Bible you are just a Catholic no more!

There are two people who mess up this Earth, Black people and White people. Blacks are the largest group of Christians on Earth and the Whites run the Catholic Church and the Jewish side. The Arabs are just Whites. Black and White Freemasons keep all the lies going. They won't allow true history to be told because they only want it shared in their Masonic lodges. All the homosexuality spreading is Blacks and Whites! All the sodomite cults, Blacks and Whites. And I'm even finding it shocking how many Blacks are outright pedophiles, not as bad as the Whites yet in still there are many Black pedophiles. Blacks tricking other Blacks into slavery by promising them jobs overseas only to sell them over to the Arabs for slavery.

The Chinese gave Africa 60 billion dollars no interest, no pay back date. When have any of you Pan Africans, Hebrews, Egyptian wanna bes, Black Nationalists, African Union, and Pan Yoruba called for an economic front to fix the issues of the African world? None of that. You want to argue about histories you didn't live. You didn't build any Pyramids the Ancestors did. And you are a long, long, long way from being anything close to their Supreme Culture.

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Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by KingSango(m): 4:05pm On Oct 12, 2018
Here is a lesson from East and West Africa. There is only One God. Other deities in Africa are ancestors.....ancestors who live on in the spirit world and possess great powers. Other spirits who the One God has assigned to manage in His behalf. There is only One God.


One God And Many Deities

A supreme power, ruling over everything and everyone appears to be a feature of all African religions. This supreme power is the prime mover and creator, who is all knowing and eternal, and was there at the beginning of time. It goes under many different names, and it varies considerably from society to society, as to how near or how remote this supreme power is.

The Abaluiyia of Kenya, the Bambuti of the Congo area, and the Galla of Ethiopia are among those who pray directly to the supreme deity on a regular basis. Here is the example of a common prayer of the Nandi, in Kenya, which reflects the importance of cattle in their community:

God guard me, the children and the cattle,
God guard for us the cattle,
God give us good health!

In other cultures, the supreme being cannot be approached directly. The Igbo, of southeastern Nigeria, talk about 'the rich man' who can only be approached through his many servants.

Most societies have a host of different intermediaries who can be consulted.

THE YORUBA OF NIGERIA
In Yoruba belief, the prime mover is Oludmare, who gives life to the newborn and consigns the wicked to a place of punishment after death. But beneath Oludmare are hundreds of deities, or 'orisas'.

Each has a different province, for example, Orunmila knows every language of earth, Ogun is concerned with iron making and hunting, Shango (or Chango) is a manifestation of Oludmare's anger, drawing on thunder and lightening to express this.

Listen hereListen here to Professor Jacob Olupona of the University of California on the Yoruba creation myth

THE BAGANDA OF UGANDA
Similarly in Uganda, Katonda is the supreme deity of the Baganda. But beneath him are fifty or so guardians or 'balubaale', including Walumbe a figure of death, Kibuka presiding over war and Nagaddya, who deals with marriage and harvest.

There are many stories which explain conflict, sin, disorder in this world and the general alienation of human beings from their Creator. Often this has resulted from humans acting in some way to disappoint or anger God. The Judaic-Christian tradition takes up the same theme with Eve breaking the harmony of Paradise by eating from the tree of knowledge. The Barotse, of Zambia, were similarly punished for eating animals, when they were expressly forbidden from doing so.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by morpheus24: 10:26pm On Oct 12, 2018
KingSango:



And what would be the purpose of Africans fabricating history?

Every nation or peoples embelish their origins because of ego or etho centrism. That's Human nature. A man can lie about the number of children he has simply to boost his ego. If you test all those kids and find out he is only the father to 10 out of 20 of them, that is "evidence"

KingSango:

There is no motivation for the people who established civilization and settled on every land on Earth before other races to fabricate history. No, the only people who fabricate are those who didn't come first, whose history is short, and whose civilization is but a mere copy of the African.

I don't know if the above even makes sense. If African people came first, isn't it African people who populated the word then then "turned" into all these other races through a process, therefore the population outside of Africa are simply adapted version of the original source group, they are not a different "race" or "group" of people.

KingSango:

You are too narcissistic to speak with and I've spoken to you before and ran into the same issue. There's is no common ground with Biblical believers who are just basically Catholics. If you believe in that Bible you are just a Catholic no more!
Asking for evidence which is verifiable and not merely relying on heresay is not narcissitic its scientific.

I am neither a Catholic nor do I base my information on questions in reference to Biblical literature
KingSango:

There are two people who mess up this Earth, Black people and White people. Blacks are the largest group of Christians on Earth and the Whites run the Catholic Church and the Jewish side. The Arabs are just Whites. Black and White Freemasons keep all the lies going. They won't allow true history to be told because they only want it shared in their Masonic lodges. All the homosexuality spreading is Blacks and Whites! All the sodomite cults, Blacks and Whites. And I'm even finding it shocking how many Blacks are outright pedophiles, not as bad as the Whites yet in still there are many Black pedophiles. Blacks tricking other Blacks into slavery by promising them jobs overseas only to sell them over to the Arabs for slavery.

Conspriacy theories, absolutely unverifiable therefore is heresay or opinion.

KingSango:

The Chinese gave Africa 60 billion dollars no interest, no pay back date. When have any of you Pan Africans, Hebrews, Egyptian wanna bes, Black Nationalists, African Union, and Pan Yoruba called for an economic front to fix the issues of the African world? None of that. You want to argue about histories you didn't live. You didn't build any Pyramids the Ancestors did. And you are a long, long, long way from being anything close to their Supreme Culture.


?Did you take your Haloperidol shots today?
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by KingSango(m): 11:35pm On Oct 12, 2018
morpheus24:


Every nation or peoples embelish their origins because of ego or etho centrism. That's Human nature. A man can lie about the number of children he has simply to boost his ego. If you test all those kids and find out he is only the father to 10 out of 20 of them, that is "evidence"



I don't know if the above even makes sense. If African people came first, isn't it African people who populated the word then then "turned" into all these other races through a process, therefore the population outside of Africa are simply adapted version of the original source group, they are not a different "race" or "group" of people.


Asking for evidence which is verifiable and not merely relying on heresay is not narcissitic its scientific.

I am neither a Catholic nor do I base my information on questions in reference to Biblical literature


Conspriacy theories, absolutely unverifiable therefore is heresay or opinion.



?Did you take your Haloperidol shots today?
Troll


angry I have been on to you the whole time. My only task is keeping my post going, I won the batle already. grin grin
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by Hati13(m): 11:01pm On Oct 26, 2018
morpheus24:


When you say Ethiopian civilizations, do you mean the "Ethiopians" in its current usage and geographical expression?
Yeah it’s in the current usage.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by Rossikki: 12:28am On Oct 28, 2018
Moorish:
Well that’s cool but the moors were most successful

Moors actually had a civilization( art, architecture, garments, weapons, tech )

So you have a moorish civilization

I am also proud of the Kushitic civilization

The Benin Empire had all of the above.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by Rossikki: 12:30am On Oct 28, 2018
morpheus24:


The moors were more successful conquerors aided by the Islamic expansion period in the Magreb, therefore they are technically not an African civilization.

You are absolutely crazy.

The Black African Moors Who Civilized Europe






Moor ( Carved Cameo Brooch Gold Diamond Ruby)







Brotherhood of the Blackheads (Riga, Latvia)



The Moor Of Coburg Emblazoned In Gold Here On This Building



Members of the Theban Legion
Germany (1480)




A Moorish General - Scotland



Anonymous Venetian Artist Bust of a Black in Livery Italy ( 1740s)



Saint Gregory of Germany (circa 1520 AD)

by an unknown German Artist.

Oil on Wood Panel, 102 x 47 cm.




Moors in Rome - Black Emperor

By: Maarten de Vos 1599





St. Benedict of Palermo (1524-1589)


Moorish Nobleman 15th Century.


Nobleman, Spain, 15th Century











Saint Maurice with Shield Bearing a Moor’s Head




Moorish Noble
The Influence of The African Moors can be witnessed all over Europe, in paintings, arts which
can be found in many museums.





Bust of Othello, the moor of Venice


Moors in Spain


Moorish ruler - Netherlands ( 1510)



Black Roman bronze head, 1st century BC



Roman Moor in Ancient Rome



The Greco-Roman Empire was Civilized by Moors but Thousands of years before that, Blacks migrated from Africa to the Mediterranean and created an earlier civilization. Whites Claim Greek Culture as their own yet According to Greek Philosophers, They Traveled and Studied in Africa. The Greco-Roman Empire not only had Black Roots but had Black people in it’s Culture. Hundreds of Sculptures depict Blacks living in Society and NOT as Slaves.



Bust of a Black Moor Germany (1660s) marble

"Black man know yourself
Be confident
Our ancestors
Civilised this world
Black man know yourself
Don't forget your past
Black man know yourself
Don't forget your past"


- Femi Kuti
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by morpheus24: 7:22pm On Oct 29, 2018
Rossikki:


You are absolutely crazy.

Read very "slowly" next time before your ichy fingers jump on your keyboard to reveal your s.t.u.p.i.d.i.ty by posting pictures of "black African people" in medieval and Roman times

The indication is that Moorish rule in the Iberian Penisula is "derived" from the ISLAMIC/ARAB incursions into the Magreb ak.a. North Africa, therefore "technically" speaking they are not an indigenous African civilization since the caliphates arose from West Asia.

The area which the "moors" emanate from are a combination of several African civilizations usurped by the Islamic conquest of the Maghreb inclusive of West African, Berber/Amazigh and other ethnic groups influenced genetically and culturally by the visgoths and vandals in North Africa.

There is no singular "black African moor culture/civilization" in Africa. If there is point to it.


Afro-centric gibberish should never be mistaken for Pan Africanism.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by ayinba1(f): 4:23pm On Oct 30, 2018
morpheus24:


Read very "slowly" next time before your ichy fingers jump on your keyboard to reveal your s.t.u.p.i.d.i.ty by posting pictures of "black African people" in medieval and Roman times

The indication is that Moorish rule in the Iberian Penisula is "derived" from the ISLAMIC/ARAB incursions into the Magreb ak.a. North Africa, therefore "technically" speaking they are not an indigenous African civilization since the caliphates arose from West Asia.

The area which the "moors" emanate from are a combination of several African civilizations usurped by the Islamic conquest of the Maghreb inclusive of West African, Berber/Amazigh and other ethnic groups influenced genetically and culturally by the visgoths and vandals in North Africa.

There is no singular "black African moor culture/civilization" in Africa. If there is point to it.


Afro-centric gibberish should never be mistaken for Pan Africanism.

I don't agree with everything that kingshango posts, he seems obsessed with pedophiles and homosexuals and that derails his message a lot.
Having said that, it is sometimes necessary to format ones brain to open it to the possibilities of a different narrative. We have all been fed a certain version.

Pray tell, what aspect of the earliest moors' resembles Islamic/Arabian culture?

Please share with us.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by morpheus24: 5:16pm On Oct 30, 2018
ayinba1:


I don't agree with everything that kingshango posts, he seems obsessed with pedophiles and homosexuals and that derails his message a lot.
Having said that, it is sometimes necessary to format ones brain to open it to the possibilities of a different narrative. We have all been fed a certain version.

Pray tell, what aspect of the earliest moors' resembles Islamic/Arabian culture?

Please share with us.

First we must agree on a couple of things:

1. When you say "earliest" Moors, what do you mean. Are you using this word to describe a race of people, a civilization?
2. What is the etymology or origins of the use of this particular designation.
3. What is the definition of the word in modern and ancient times.
4. What is the ethno linguistic and ethno-religious identity of what or who was considered a "Moor'


Etymology

"North African, Berber," late 14c., from Old French More, from Medieval Latin Morus, from Latin Maurus "inhabitant of Mauretania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Greek Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black" (but this adjective only appears in late Greek and may as well be from the people's name as the reverse). Being a dark people in relation to Europeans, their name in the Middle Ages was a synonym for "Negro;" later (16c.-17c.) used indiscriminately of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India.


Definition

[I]Moor
noun (2)
\ˈmu̇r
1 : one of the Arab and Berber conquerors of Spain
2 : berber [/I]



Ethno-linguistic - Ethno-religious

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Moor-people


All these three sources denote that the people designated as "Moors" emanate from the Arab-Andalusian civilization in and around the Iberian Pennisula The origins begin in North and North west Africa dating from the 7th to the 11th century, therefore their culture would be predominantly or heavily influenced by Arab/Islamic culture which predates and who's origins are not indigenous to Africa.

Berber/Amazigh and West African culture or civilizations existed before the introduction of Arab/Islamic culture to the area, therefore Moorish culture or civilizations would have elements of its previous cultural practices but the most pronounced would be the dominant culture.

Please note that I do not subscribe to the strict use of the word "moor" by some Afro-centrists to denote "Black people" especially of the sub Saharan variant" but rather a peoples who originate from a geographical area in Africa that include more than one variant of indigenous African phenotypes. Therefore the pictures posted by Rossik are selective and disingenuous in my opinion.

All those pics really convey is that "black people" were present in European regions in antiquity and in all ranks of society. That is not an argument.

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Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by AtaniWarrior: 1:30am On Nov 01, 2018
Garamantes Kingdom as well. The list goes on. Africa was home to a lot of kingdoms, empires, and states. It is very fascinating.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by morpheus24: 4:57pm On Nov 01, 2018
AtaniWarrior:
Garamantes Kingdom as well. The list goes on. Africa was home to a lot of kingdoms, empires, and states. It is very fascinating.


Please note that in comparison to what is now referenced as empires, these Kingdoms could sparsely pass as "empires" in the modern use of the word "dynasty' or "kingdoms" would be more appropriate.

Case in point, the Zulu's were a Kingdom but definitely not an Empire in the modern sense of the word.

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Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by AtaniWarrior: 2:34am On Nov 02, 2018
morpheus24:



Please note that in comparison to what is now referenced as empires, these Kingdoms could sparsely pass as "empires" in the modern use of the word "dynasty' or "kingdoms" would be more appropriate.

Case in point, the Zulu's were a Kingdom but definitely not an Empire in the modern sense of the word.


I agree.
Re: We Are More Than Just Egyptians, Moors, Igbos, Hausas And Yorubas. by KingSango(m): 7:23pm On Nov 17, 2018
ayinba1:


I don't agree with everything that kingshango posts, he seems obsessed with pedophiles and homosexuals and that derails his message a lot.
Having said that, it is sometimes necessary to format ones brain to open it to the possibilities of a different narrative. We have all been fed a certain version.

Pray tell, what aspect of the earliest moors' resembles Islamic/Arabian culture?

Please share with us.

A homosexual pedophile order is ruling over the world and has been since ancient times.

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