MikeCZAR:
You can have intelligent officers with degrees from every military academy in the world get beaten by rebels.

Training>experience.

Every standard army has standard training, even Zimbabwe is well trained.

Combat experience makes the difference between different armies.

The army with training alone has one strength, the army with both training and battlefield experience has two strengths combined.

War experience is the icing sugar and cream on the cake....and that is what has downgraded SANDF to the level of Botswana
.

lezz:
majority of your military is peoples by ill-trained Zulu fighters who got drafted in by 1994.

Your institutions are filled by half-literate employees forced in by ANC.

2014-04-24 12:06 Johannesburg - In the bowels of Africa's largest hospital, doctors carry out emergency surgery by the light of a cellphone while, in a nearby ward, seriously ill patients are sardined three-to-a-bed.

Twenty years after South Africans jubilantly swept apartheid aside, Johannesburg's Chris Hani Baragwanath Hospital, like many of the country's post-apartheid institutions, has failed to live up to the dream.

Away from the country's high-profile political scandals, a more pernicious institutional crisis is ravaging the "Rainbow Nation".

Small municipalities and large ministries are being eaten away by corruption, mismanagement and the enormity of serving all of the country's 51 million citizens, not just an elite few.

The problems are "systemic" and require a complete "overhaul" according to Phophi Ramathuba of the country's doctors association, but they are not limited to the health sector.

When I told you whites are your saviours, you beat your chest like a gorilla and deny.

When I compared you to Burundi, you thought I was being funny.

Now listen, South Africa is going to keep rotting away to the very bottom before an attempt at change will surface. Mark my words.

All armies were integrated into the SADF and were retrained for conventional warfare as their was based guerrilla warfare.

Compare that with Nigeria, as we got problems but yours are worse.

In your dreams.

agaugust:


Every standard army has standard training, even Zimbabwe is well trained.

War experience is the icing sugar and cream on the cake....and that is what has downgraded SANDF to the level of Botswana
.

With superior training and equipment Zimbabwe was able to defeat rebels in the DRC with a lot of combat experience under their belts.

Training > Experience.

PLAN had a lot of experience fighting alongside FAPLA, Cuba, Mk ect in Angola and launching raids into Namibia.

But when SWAPO came to power to came to SA looking for Namibians who were trained by the SADF and fought them. Those who served in SWATF and the SADF.

MikeCZAR:
You can have intelligent officers with degrees from every military academy in the world get beaten by rebels.
Training>experience.

Training and experience walk hand in hand,but on a scale of preference,experience beats training.
There are heavily trained field soldiers who freeze when they see battle.Battle simulations are quite different from real life combat,on the practice ground,the biggest fatality you can sustain is a nose bleed,broken bone,wounded pride and serious tongue lashing from your disgruntled superior.but is real combat,failure means death.That is why many soldiers,even though they've got training,tend to loose nerve in the middle of real action.Trainers can only teach the troops and hope for the best.
But experience is a rare attribute needed for a formidable armed force.Even without preliminary training,once you've got the experience,you've got the training needed.

MikeCZAR:
All armies were integrated into the SADF and were retrained for conventional warfare as their was based guerrilla warfare.

Compare that with Nigeria, as we got problems but yours are worse.

In your dreams.

Nelson Mandela admitted that they came from the bush, prisons and camps and do not know how to run a country.

Runnig a country implies the military, education, hospitals and infrastructure. And all of these are nose-diving in South Africa of today.

andrewza:



They very big backpacks. Enough to gear is in it for a small surgery.

1 bagpack for 400 troops in the CAR, if it were enough, you won't be begging the french for basic essential equipments.

lezz:
lol, that dude bleeds in the heart and pretend to put out a strong facade.

pre-1994 South Africa was a hype!!!

Post-1994 South Africa is a criminal representation of facts.

This is the beginning of decay of South Africa.
We've seen in its societal structure, in institutions , schools and in the military.

Lol....... Patches689 is the most emotional of the South-African lot in this thread.

MikeCZAR:
South Africa has the best infrastructure, universities and military support companies.

Thanks to 300 years uninterrupted white minority rule.

Universities.... Most South-Africans don't got to the university.

Defence industry known for making MRAPs, I'll give you that. Although, in Africa, Egypt has the best Defence industry.

MikeCZAR:
Better than Nigerian's.

What's Nigeria's road coverage?

Nigeria has a rapidly growing infrastructural sector, and the country within the last 4 years has paved/built enough roads, that in length is half of planet earth.

Nigeria is also home to Africa's most Ambitious projects Eko-Atlantic city and Centenary city. Our Rail project was also named in one of the world's Top 10 projects largest projects.

Julius berger a Nigerian construction company is Africa's largest construction company.

lezz:
majority of your military is peoples by ill-trained Zulu fighters who got drafted in by 1994.

Your institutions are filled by half-literate employees forced in by ANC.

2014-04-24 12:06 Johannesburg - In the bowels of Africa's largest hospital, doctors carry out emergency surgery by the light of a cellphone while, in a nearby ward, seriously ill patients are sardined three-to-a-bed.

Twenty years after South Africans jubilantly swept apartheid aside, Johannesburg's Chris Hani Baragwanath Hospital, like many of the country's post-apartheid institutions, has failed to live up to the dream.

Away from the country's high-profile political scandals, a more pernicious institutional crisis is ravaging the "Rainbow Nation".

Small municipalities and large ministries are being eaten away by corruption, mismanagement and the enormity of serving all of the country's 51 million citizens, not just an elite few.

The problems are "systemic" and require a complete "overhaul" according to Phophi Ramathuba of the country's doctors association, but they are not limited to the health sector.

When I told you whites are your saviours, you beat your chest like a gorilla and deny.

When I compared you to Burundi, you thought I was being funny.

Now listen, South Africa is going to keep rotting away to the very bottom before an attempt at change will surface. Mark my words.

Blacks don't use the internet in South-Africa. Most of the commenters in this thread are white or malay.

Pathetic lot they are.

andrewza:


I quoted the wrong person. Sorry.

Oh alright no problem bro.

MikeCZAR:
The scouts or intelligence units are rarely seen, their ops are top secret.

The bats are mostly deployed with their sf buddies.

In C.A.R they were all deployed to together, the Intelligence Operative I spoke to told me that it was his team that first detected around ±10 000 Seleka Rebels from the mountains (but I'm not sure if he was telling the truth or stole someone else's story)..

But anyway he said his team were actually taking pictures and sending live feeds back to U.N HQ while the Parabats and S.Fs were engaging the enemy, while 3 or 4 Parabs were providing cover for him.

Lool, tribal e-warriors chest beating about which region has most Shoprites.

Really shameful
https://www.nairaland.com/2247867/7-shoprite-southwest-1-southeast

osystein:
Lool, tribal e-warriors chest beating about which region has most Shoprites.

Really shameful
https://www.nairaland.com/2247867/7-shoprite-southwest-1-southeast

that is totally allowed, as long as they're not throwng molotov at each other..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlcEqAUIUY0

Views from the world over!! I hope our blockhead South Africans can now understand that khaki no be leather!! It takes an unbiased VICE (video) news reporting from our NE frontlines to demolish all the wrong perceptions, hate-mongering and propaganda peddled against Nigeria and the NA.

All I owe you is more of the outpouring of praises for Africa's top conventional War and COIN specialist Army - the NA.

They say we are "badasss" fighters!

Henry120:


Blacks don't use the internet in South-Africa. Most of the commenters in this thread are white or malay.

Pathetic lot they are.

you are ill informed....

lezz:
you must be a zombie schizophrenic baboon.

Your hospital shares 1 bed to 3 patients.

A dead patient got sandwiched in between two loving patients, plus your operations are carried out by touch light, not even a generator set.

Your government reduced pass grade to 30%.

This anomaly don't happen in Nigeria, not even in during the civil war.

SA has far better public hospitals than Nigeria. We don't send our people abroad to receive better health care.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlcEqAUIUY0

Terrorists evaporate at the sight of NA and the world applauds to the new masters of COIN - NA strolling!

NaijaPikinGidi:
Views from the world over!! I hope our blockhead South Africans can now understand that khaki no be leather!! It takes an unbiased VICE (video) news reporting from our NE frontlines to demolish all the wrong perceptions, hate-mongering and propaganda peddled against Nigeria and the NA.

All I owe you is more of the outpouring of praises for Africa's top conventional War and COIN specialist Army - the NA.

They say we are "badasss" fighters!

Nigerians pretending to be white people, bwahahahaha!!! If Nigeria military was that competent, why did Jonathan lose the elections?

Henry120:


Blacks don't use the internet in South-Africa. Most of the commenters in this thread are white or malay.

Pathetic lot they are.

Every black man in SA use internet primarily from their tablets and cellphones. Whoever gave you that information mislead you because he saw that you were a real monkey.

lezz:
Nigeria has the NHIS ( National health insurance scheme.

In delta state, all pregnant women goes through free ante natal and deliveries.

Sing me another song.

Nigeria has most of poorly developed hospitals in Africa. SA always wants to compare to European standard in almost everything. By the time they start to look into Africa, they will see that they are in actual fact by far better in terms of development of infrastructure. The problem is that we have white community and Asian community that always refer to either Europe or Japan that they always use as a yardstick to measure the quality of public services. I just only wish them to visit Nigeria and other African countries, I bet you they will recommend SA in many ways.


Nigerian government is a complete failure when it comes to service delivery. They don't even know the concept of service delivery. Pregnant or not pregnant you are entitled to free health care in SA.

Henry120:


Thanks to 300 years uninterrupted white minority rule.

Universities.... Most South-Africans don't got to the university.

Defence industry known for making MRAPs, I'll give you that. Although, in Africa, Egypt has the best Defence industry.

You are always dreaming deep in your sleep, so when are you going to wake up? So, SA built all those world standard universities for foreigners? Desperate attempts to deface the image of South Africans with lies, Shame.

What is it that Egypt has ever sold to the world? Egypt has no defence industry comparable to that of SA.

It is a fact that SA has the best defence industry in Africa. If you don't know that look at Sipri to see which African country is in the top 20 arms exporter.

Egyptians recently sent their minister of technology to beg SA to help them train their scientists, engineers and technologists in various fields.

EVarn:
Training and experience walk hand in hand,but on a scale of preference,experience beats training.
There are heavily trained field soldiers who freeze when they see battle.Battle simulations are quite different from real life combat,on the practice ground,the biggest fatality you can sustain is a nose bleed,broken bone,wounded pride and serious tongue lashing from your disgruntled superior.but is real combat,failure means death.That is why many soldiers,even though they've got training,tend to loose nerve in the middle of real action.Trainers can only teach the troops and hope for the best.
But experience is a rare attribute needed for a formidable armed force.Even without preliminary training,once you've got the experience,you've got the training needed.

Training > Experience.

What is the role of NCOs in the field?

Msauza:



Nigerians pretending to be white people, bwahahahaha!!! If Nigeria military was that competent, why did Jonathan lose the elections?

You are so desperate ... Nigerians are Nigerians! Just eat your tiny balls out ... fake Enugu man! What Jonathan has shown -- is the political sagacity that many African leaders need to learn. It shows you the democratic maturity and leadership we are teaching fellow African countries like South Africa. We have reaffirmed our place as the biggest and most advanced democracy in Africa. Reason why we have the leading and most fearless Army in all of Africa.

The world now confesses we are a professional fighting force!

lezz:
Nelson Mandela admitted that they came from the bush, prisons and camps and do not know how to run a country.

Runnig a country implies the military, education, hospitals and infrastructure. And all of these are nose-diving in South Africa of today.

The Liberation armies had bases in Uganda, Algeria, Angola, Tanzania etc

How many rebellions have taken place in Nigeria since the start of democratic rule?

Fact is in Nigeria they're worse, come to us when you something better.

Henry120:


1 bagpack for 400 troops in the CAR, if it were enough, you won't be begging the french for basic essential equipments.

280 troops.

NaijaPikinGidi:


You are so desperate ... Nigerians are Nigerians! Just eat your tiny balls out ... fake Enugu man! What Jonathan has shown -- is the political sagacity that many African leaders need to learn. It shows you the democratic maturity and leadership we are teaching fellow African countries like South Africa. The biggest and most advanced democracy in Africa. Reason why we have the leading and most fearless Army in all of Africa.

The world now confesses we are a professional fighting force!

Nigeria recruited mercenaries, particularly those who are experts from South Africa. Do you call that military the best that failed to use its own skills to defeat BH and instead deported hundreds of mercenaries from SA to help them defeat BH. Does that not tell you that South Africa's mind is superior to that of his Nigerian counter part? Jonathan could make use of mercenaries to defeat BH but that unfortunately could not help him win election because of Nigeria have seen what kind of joke had their military turned into.

Henry120:


Thanks to 300 years uninterrupted white minority rule.

Universities.... Most South-Africans don't got to the university.

Defence industry known for making MRAPs, I'll give you that. Although, in Africa, Egypt has the best Defence industry.

Thanks to the rule of dictators you have nothing.

Most Nigerians today don't even go to school as BH blew up learning places.

That's because we a superior knowledge of asymmetric warfare than most.

Egypt defence industry is focused on building systems under licence similar to Ethiopia not independent

Our defence industry is characterised by a strong research and development capability, years ahead of Egypt and Nigeria. This offers the SA military capabilities no one on the continent can match.

From missile capability, UAVs, Command and control systems independent from outside countries to howitzers.

Henry120:


Nigeria has a rapidly growing infrastructural sector, and the country within the last 4 years has paved/built enough roads, that in length is half of planet earth.

Nigeria is also home to Africa's most Ambitious projects Eko-Atlantic city and Centenary city. Our Rail project was also named in one of the world's Top 10 projects largest projects.

Julius berger a Nigerian construction company is Africa's largest construction company.

whatever you're still behind.

It is sad when you Nigerian celebrate things we have been doing since the 80s.

Centrifude:


In C.A.R they were all deployed to together, the Intelligence Operative I spoke to told me that it was his team that first detected around ±10 000 Seleka Rebels from the mountains (but I'm not sure if he was telling the truth or stole someone else's story)..

But anyway he said his team were actually taking pictures and sending live feeds back to U.N HQ while the Parabats and S.Fs were engaging the enemy, while 3 or 4 Parabs were providing cover for him.

On the later he might talking about DRC.

Even in conventional war the intel operatives are rarely seen.