agaugust:

post source of your claims and dont throw your minds imagination into our faces. post a source of those battles to prove exactly, your claims.

america and europe are NOT building any artillery of south african 75km range because it is a useless combat distance that wont win you a war.

south african army could not close-in on cuban army because you are cowards and did not want to die, all you wanted was to prevent cuba from entering south africa. your poor combat history is at work there again.

south african army did not charge forward and use your doctrine of mobility to assault the cuban enemy and engage in close range hand to hand combat. that is what an army is expected to do.

in the bush war, both south africa and cuba were a bunch of military dummies to laugh at. go see how nigeria and biafra close-in on each other for combat, biafra moved out of their territory and invaded nigeria and got to ore town heading for lagos reaching just 2 hours away from nigeria's capital city, before nigerian army counter attacked and made one of the bloodiest land battles in african history called "Oleku Ija Ore". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ore

stop posting things with no source, i am tired of it. dont be lazy. stop forcing your private ideas into our eyes. get sources to prove your claims.

when south africa got a better artillery range than cuba with your 75km GV6 guns, why did you not win the war with range advantage ?


nigerian army artillery firepower is 5 times superior to south africa and we will r.oast your weak army. period.

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drag_on:

As you can see it is you that said that you country can increase your army,and i said if you cant train a small army now what makes you think you can train and equip a larger army?

GidiNaijaPikin:

Prostitution is a big problem everywhere in the world. Did anyone force your SANDF troops to zip down? Most likely they patronised and refused to pay ... molestation and ra.pe is SA big problem. And your troops exported the trend to the DRC. Nigerian cops will never be as inhuman as your SAPS. What don't we understand about the 33% pass mark for matriculation exams?

drag_on: last time i heard about your subs they were in dry dock,esp after the accident of your last sub by incompetent sailors
one went down cause the sailors wrongly connected the batteries,the other was driven into the sea-bed.By the way you have not paid for them. http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

agaugust:

after nigerian artillery roasts the south africa army, the few of them that remain will be use for our shooting practice.

south african artillery guns 120. niegrian artillery guns 660.

south african soldiers regular 30,000. nigerian soldiers regular about 120,000.

who is ranking african military nations ? check out the above data....and only an army can occupy territory. navy sits in the sea and needs land harbour to replenish supply of food and fuel, air force needs a place to land before jet fuel finishes in the air !

the better army, is the stronger country.

agaugust:

after nigerian artillery roasts the south africa army, the few of them that remain will be used for our shooting practice.

south african artillery guns 120. niegrian artillery guns 660.

south african regular soldiers about 30,000. nigerian regular soldiers about 120,000.

who is ranking african countries military forces ? check out the above data....and only an army can occupy territory. navy sits in the sea and needs land harbour to replenish supply of food and fuel, air force needs a place to land before jet fuel finishes in the air !

the stronger army, is the stronger country.

drag_on: last time i heard about your subs they were in dry dock,esp after the accident of your last sub by incompetent sailors
one went down cause the sailors wrongly connected the batteries,the other was driven into the sea-bed.By the way you have not paid for them. http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/08/12/not-one-of-the-r8-billion-arms-deal-submarines-is-operational

AwodwaGyanOniwe: @Andrewza
Naijapikidi is just pulling CHEAP SHOTS at you. I mean we have POSTED SEVERAL TIMES. How SA education system works and showed that. most people send their kids to MODEL C SCHOOLS. AGAIN IF HES INVITING US. HE MUST SHOUT "LOUD". THEN WE'LL BE READY TO EXCHANGE BLOWS.

drag_on: @saengine thats a different accident by your incompetent submariners,read the link i gave you

kwame tut: @Chimamanda
YES PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE DOING BAD AS COMPARED TO "PRIVATE/FORMER WHITES ONLY SCHOOLS DOMINANTLY 70% BLACK IN BIG CITIES AND 80-90% IN SMALL TOWNS".

TODAY MOST URBAN BLACKS SEND THEIR KIDS TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS(aren't affected by these use their own system) THAN PUBLIC SCHOOLS(Low standards and unions strikes that take days and stealing teaching time, are the course of the rot).

[b]YOU HAVE BEEN POSTING LIES ABOUT S.A. EDUCATION SYSTEM.

SAIRR Today: South African schooling - 21st May 2010
South African Institute for Race Relations
Recently the provincial education department in the Eastern Cape stated that it would be auditing former ‘Model C’ schools there because these schools had ‘too many luxuries’, and were refusing to comply with the provincial department’s policies. In a meeting at the provincial legislature in Bhisho in April, the portfolio chairman on education in the province, Mr Mzoleli Mrara, said that ‘Model C’ schools were ‘racist’ and used the country’s courts to win battles against the provincial education department. However, the 2009 matric results in former ‘Model C’ schools around South Africa indicates that their black pupils do very well.

The Institute has analysed results in schools formerly administered by the House of Assembly (HoA). This was the whites-only chamber in the tricameral Parliament which South Africa experimented with between 1984 and 1994. Schools for coloured pupils were administered by the House of Representatives, and Indian schools by the House of Delegates. Schools for African pupils were controlled by either the Department of Education and Training or the various homeland administrations.

Former ‘Model C’ schools can trace their roots to the beginning of the 1990s. In 1990, the then-minister of education, Mr Piet Clasé, announced that from the beginning of 1991 parents with children in white government schools would be allowed to choose from three models how the schools would be run in future.

Model A would result in the school’s becoming fully private. Model B would result in its remaining a state school, and being allowed to admit black pupils up to a maximum of 50% of the total pupil body. Model C would result in the school’s becoming semi-privatised. The school would receive a state subsidy but would have to raise the balance of its budget through fees and donations. It would also be able to admit black pupils up to a maximum of 50% of the student body. From the beginning of 1992, a fourth option was added, Model D. These schools would remain under the control of the white education department, but would be able to admit an unlimited number of black pupils.

In 1992 the Government announced that all schools under the control of the House of Assembly would become Model C schools, unless parents voted by a two-thirds majority for Model B schools. As a result, by April 1992, approximately 1900 former white schools had become Model C schools. This equated to 96% of all schools that were under the control of the House of Assembly.

An analysis of matriculation results broken down by race shows that pupils, especially African pupils, fare significantly better in former ‘Model C’ schools than in other government schools. According to the Department of Education there were 5 477 public secondary schools in South Africa in 2008 (the latest year for which figures are available). Of these, some 620 (11%) were former Model C schools. At the same time there were 180 independent secondary schools in the country.

In 2009 the proportion of African pupils who passed the matric examinations overall was 56%. However in former ‘Model C’ schools the proportion of African pupils who passed was 88%. In order to pass, a pupil must achieve at least 30% in three subjects, and 40% in a further three, one of which must be the pupil’s home language.


An analysis of provincial pass rates is instructive. In the Eastern Cape, where former ‘Model C’ schools were the subject of an attack by the provincial education department, the pass rate for African children in such schools was 95%. The overall pass rate for African pupils in that province in last year’s matric exams was 47%. This shows that in the Eastern Cape, an African pupil’s chances of passing matric are far better if he or she attends a former ‘Model C’ school.

In all other provinces, with the exception of the Northern Cape, pass rates were between 85% and 95% in former ‘Model C’ schools.



NOTE:Today Africans students make up 70-80% Model C schools around South Africa. In smaller towns students are 100% black, as some white students are home schooled or moved to other provinces.

Province


African matric pass rate, 2009: Former ‘Model C’ schools


African matric pass rate, 2009: All schools

Eastern Cape


Private Schools=95%


Government Schools=47%

Free State


Private Schools=90%


Government Schools=64%

Gauteng


Private Schools=89%


Government Schools=65%

KwaZulu-Natal


Private Schools=85%


Government Schools=56%

Limpopo


Private Schools=93%


Government Schools=48%

Mpumalanga


Private Schools=87%


Government Schools=45%

North West


Private Schools=89%


Government Schools=64%

Northern Cape


Private Schools=67%
Government Schools=62%

Government Schools=51%

Western Cape


Private Schools=90%


Government Schools=57%



These results are not surprising. Former ‘Model C’ schools have facilities that are the envy of schools which did not fall under the control of the House of Assembly. Although there are many non-’Model C’ schools with dedicated and hard-working teaching staff, the results suggest that the teaching ethos in most former ‘Model C’ schools is still intact. Teachers are serious about their jobs, and dedicated to the children that they teach. The same cannot be said for many non-’Model C’ schools, where teachers often do not teach for the full day and are sometimes not in class at all. Reports of sexual abuse and harassment are rife. In August 2009 President Jacob Zuma said that were a number of schools where teaching occurred for fewer than 3.5 hours per day, rather than the required seven. The majority of schools where this occurs are likely to be non-’Model C’ schools.

The racial make-up of teachers or pupils at former ‘Model C’ schools does not affect the results. Former ‘Model C’ schools which have largely African teaching staff and pupils still perform well. For example, Brakpan High in Ekurhuleni (Gauteng) has an African staff complement exceeding 80%, and some 83% of the pupils who wrote matric there in 2009 were African. The school achieved a pass rate of 93%, far in excess of the provincial pass rate of 65%. The pass rate among Africans in the school was 92%.

There are other examples. Kingsridge High School in King Williams Town, formerly known by the politically incorrect name of Kaffrarian High School for Girls, attained a pass rate of 100%. Of its 87 pupils, some 60 were African, and only 10 were white. Port Shepstone High in KwaZulu-Natal achieved a pass rate of 100%. Some 148 (66%) of its student body of 224 were Africans. Dawnview High, also in Ekurhuleni, had a pass rate of 94%. Some 105 (67%) of its student body were Africans.

The decay and neglect of the African education system is probably the most insidious legacy of apartheid. The restoration of a culture of teaching and learning within predominantly African schools is a matter that the Government must tackle with haste. Schools that work, which appear to be the majority of former ‘Model C’ schools, need to be encouraged and their success replicated elsewhere.

Obviously these schools benefit from superior facilities, but the teaching ethos that is so strong in many of these schools needs to be copied. Poorly-performing schools must be strengthened, but not by weakening the schools that perform well.

Excellence in the public schooling system is not confined to former ‘Model C’ schools. In the 2009 matric exams there were 1 576 schools that achieved pass rates of between 80 and 100%. Nearly one-third of these were former ‘Model C’ schools. Some 509 of such schools achieved pass rates of between 80 and 100%. This equates to 82% of all former ‘Model C’ schools. Conversely only 1 067 of former non ‘Model C’ schools achieved pass rates of between 80 and 100%. This was equal to 22% of such schools. Although the proportion of such schools getting pass rates above 80% was much lower than that in former ‘Model C’ schools, there were nevertheless two excellent such schools for every excellent former ‘Model C’ school.

The South African education system is in crisis, but it is clear that centres of excellence still exist. Many schools which achieve good results did not fall under the jurisdiction of the House of Assembly. The factors that make these schools and many of the country’s former ‘Model C’ schools excellent need to be identified and replicated in the rest of the country’s schools. These good schools are the foundation on which the future success of South Africa will be built, and this must be strengthened and encouraged. At the same time poorly-performing schools must not be abandoned. The success of the more than 1 500 schools which achieved pass rates of above 80% must spread to the rest of the South African education system.

- Marius Roodt[/b]

zaandrew:

has i said only 15 were found guilty of a crime and less than 10 were even accusssed of a a sexual crime. it works out to 0.6 percent. should we go back to posting you tube clips?

there is a agroget, yes you can pass a subgect on 33 percent but not a year. and if you get 33 percent no universty will accept you. and there is no one with that low marks in the SANDF. There is a exame you have to right before you may join the the defense force to see if you smart enough.

drag_on: @saengine Not likely.your submariners are being frequently poached by other countries.But still facts are they dived a sub to the sea-bed and cant properly connect a subs batteries.

GidiNaijaPikin:

AndrewZA wants to justify the actions of the SANDF soldiers as mere numbers and statistics? What happened to the so called professional SANDF soldiers? We (I personally) know the facts! Blaming DRC or the UN or the AU for the atrocities of your troops is not a surprise! In the books of SA, SAns are never responsible for anything wrong, like this link attempts to insinuate: http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-06-14-peacekeepers-behaving-badly-why-south-african-ill-discipline-in-drc-is-a-un-problem

My promise to provide a dossier of the real state of SA's educational establishments has not been forgotten. Certain sensitive materials have to be used wisely. Just remain calm.

agaugust:


go to page 115, page 103, and page 280 of this thread, and educate yourself. nigerian military is NOT an obsolete force, it is your knowledge that is very out-dated. also list south african artillery force side by side with nigeria, and get roasted in the process. thank you.

dont make my 'Bat' stand upright, its hibernating head down for a few more days. nigeria has capacity to invade south africa with 10 battalions of mechanized troops, but south africa CANNOT invade nigeria.

GidiNaijaPikin: The Boko Haram that CraigB and rookie Mike..ZA love to drool about.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23245702

agaugust: artillery guns do not get obsolete easily like jet fighters, they only have one job, target the enemy position and rain down shells on him. america, russia, china, india and NATO/europe are still operating the same artillery guns nigeria is using, many dated since about year 1980 till 2005.

when we are talking about artillery guns in africa, south africa should shut up ! who told you that artillery exchange combat are usually fought from long ranges 30km to 75km apart ? armies contest for land territory and always close-in on each other in engagement to capture territory.

show us war history where one country won artillery vs artillery combat because his guns have longer range. show us a source to prove that.

no army sits down and receives artillery shells on its head, if you have longer range, the enemy will bridge the gap and close in on you. that is why mobile artillery are built to run like a car on the land and in 20 minutes it closes the gap to hit you back. if you want to maintain range advantage you have to keep running backwards and then you are retreating, the enemy is capturing all the land in front of you and your army is losing the war already !

you south africans only copy and paste data, you dont know how real war operates.

why does great america, one of the most war experienced countries of the world build its year 1994 to 2002 purchased new modern Paladin mobile artillery gun with the same range of 24km/30km as nigerian army palmaria mobile artillery guns ? its because they know that the usual war distance between armies fighting is within that range, not the 75km apart that your south african GV6 gun is dreaming of. what was the distance between south african army in CAR and Seleka rebels ? were you 75km away ? Seleka captured the land, south africa ran away. would south africa have uses artillery on Seleka rebels already looking at you eye to eye. from about 3km away when they were approaching you ?

only south africa is making noise about its 75km GV6 artillery range, why did the whole world not rush to buy the gun from DENEL in thousands since 1987 till now ? only about 150 units of the gun has been sold in 25 years to only 3 countries. all armies of the world know that in real land war that excess range is useless, no enemy will sit down that far away from you.

also, how do you know what target you are hitting from 75km away, you have no way of seeing the enemy positions in another end of the town. you just waste your artillery shells hitting a cassava farm land. the enemy is mobile, evasive and too far away.

how many artillery guns does south africa have ? about 43 of the long range GV6 to defend your huge country land of about 1.3 million sq km, south african army has a great shortage of artillery firepower, the worst among the top 5 military nations of africa, you are the worst in artillery firpower.


south african artillery guns total about 120 units

nigerian artillery guns total about 660 units

firepower of nigerian artillery gun is over 5 times that of south african artillery guns, nigerian army will totally wipe out south africa army in an artillery combat

mighty palmaria mobile artillery gun of nigerian army
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Henry120:

Nigeria has 3 stretch variants. No african country has.

GidiNaijaPikin:

AndrewZA wants to justify the actions of the SANDF soldiers as mere numbers and statistics? What happened to the so called professional SANDF soldiers? We (I personally) know the facts! Blaming DRC or the UN or the AU for the atrocities of your troops is not a surprise! In the books of SA, SAns are never responsible for anything wrong, like this link attempts to insinuate: http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-06-14-peacekeepers-behaving-badly-why-south-african-ill-discipline-in-drc-is-a-un-problem

My promise to provide a dossier of the real state of SA's educational establishments has not been forgotten. Certain sensitive materials have to be used wisely. Just remain calm.

GidiNaijaPikin:

AndrewZA wants to justify the actions of the SANDF soldiers as mere numbers and statistics? What happened to the so called professional SANDF soldiers? We (I personally) know the facts! Blaming DRC or the UN or the AU for the atrocities of your troops is not a surprise! In the books of SA, SAns are never responsible for anything wrong, like this link attempts to insinuate: http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-06-14-peacekeepers-behaving-badly-why-south-african-ill-discipline-in-drc-is-a-un-problem

My promise to provide a dossier of the real state of SA's educational establishments has not been forgotten . Certain sensitive materials have to be used wisely. Just remain calm.

Fynline: MINUSMA erstwhile AFISMA

CraigB:


Four alleged members of the Islamist Boko Haram group have been sentenced to life for their role in bomb attacks that killed 19 people.

Anyway, where is the leader? 4 BH members arrested woo-hoo! That should stop BH dead in their tracks!