PASTOR ADEBOYE KNOWETH NOT THE SCRIPTURES

Deuteronomy 14:22-26New International Version (NIV)

Tithes

22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year.

23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always.

24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away),

25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose.

26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other FERMENTED DRINK, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.

Any pastor who asked you to pay tithe and condemns drinking, handling and moderate use of alcohol is a thief!

Lol

Jehovah the god of shayo

Hmm, while in the church you will still use the money to buy things you desire and do eat with others.

Not to give the cash raw.

smh smh

hahn:
Lol
Jehovah the god of shayo

Kikikikikikiki..... Yahweh na shayo master

Bumidavis, akintom, petra1, hardasan, Osezua

25. then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose.

Going by the above quote, tithes isn't money or cash.

The Bible-era used silver and gold as money. The above quoted verse instructed the jews to exchange tithes for silver(money). This means tithes isn't money!

Tithes was food!!

Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries.
- Nehemiah 13:12 KJV

And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's : it is holy unto the Lord .
- Leviticus 27:30 KJV

And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the Lord .
- Leviticus 27:32 KJV

Tithes is food, not just for Levites....

When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;
- Deuteronomy 26:12 KJV

Then this... Pastors' favourite verse.

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
- Malachi 3:10 KJV

But what do we have? Some people taking advantage of the poor.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Bumidavis, akintom, petra1, hardasan, Osezua



Going by the above quote, tithes isn't money or cash.

The Bible-era used silver and gold as money. The above quoted verse instructed the jews to exchange tithes for silver(money). This means tithes isn't money!

Tithes was food!!






Tithes is food, not just for Levites....



Then this... Pastors' favourite verse.



But what do we have? Some people taking advantage of the poor.

Israélites were farmers / shepherds so they can bring increase of their land or flock. Do you have a farm or livestock ? If not, your tithe is your cash increase.

At the end, there's nothing wrong with buying "whatsoever your soul desires " and bring it to the church. But if the church expressly prohibits alcohol, you have to respect their wishes and buy what isn't prohibited or switch to a church that doesn't prohibit alcohol.

Lol... this tithe issue is never going to end sha. Mugu and maga will always fall for it though.

hardasan:


Israélites were farmers / shepherds so they can bring increase of their land or flock. Do you have a farm or livestock ? If not, your tithe is your cash increase.

At the end, there's nothing wrong with buying "whatsoever your soul desires " and bring it to the church. But if the church expressly prohibits alcohol, you have to respect their wishes and buy what isn't prohibited or switch to a church that doesn't prohibit alcohol.

There were silvers and golds as at the time, according to the Bible stories.
Why didn't God state "gold and silver" as tithe?

It was also mentioned that the levites had no inheritance. Your pastors do not take tithe for the food, or feeding the poor.
Stop defending the greedy men.

ScepticalPyrrho:
There were silvers and golds as at the time, according to the Bible stories.
Why didn't God state "gold and silver" as tithe?

It was also mentioned that the levites had no inheritance. Your pastors do not take tithe for the food, or feeding the poor.
Stop defending the greedy men.

Ces la même chose mon chéri monsieur
Tithe is the tenth part of your increase which is also profit. It can be currency or corn and wine.
Levites had no land inheritance means that their tribe didn't get land as they are the priests so that they can dwell among the other tribes and carry out their priestly duties from a close range.

Tithes paid to the priests weren't only for their upkeep. See the following verses:
Gen 14 vs 18 -20

And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

Here, Abraham was returning from the slaughter of Kings and he met the priest and paid tithes of all he got from the kings he defeated. He didn't eat it and invite the priest. Do you know how much he must have paid in Gold alone ?
Now do you know that Melchizedek wasn't a levite ? Cus Levi was a descendant of Abraham. So likewise, Pastors represent Priests and should receive the tithes.

A part of me sef would want people to stop paying tithe so that all these false men of God will loose interest in the business and look for a job but I can't support a false doctrine.

hardasan:


Ces la même chose mon chéri monsieur
Tithe is the tenth part of your increase which is also profit. It can be currency or corn and wine.
Levites had no land inheritance means that their tribe didn't get land as they are the priests so that they can dwell among the other tribes and carry out their priestly duties from a close range.

Tithes paid to the priests weren't only for their upkeep. See the following verses:
Gen 14 vs 18 -20

And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

Here, Abraham was returning from the slaughter of Kings and he met the priest and paid tithes of all he got from the kings he defeated. He didn't eat it and invite the priest. Do you know how much he must have paid in Gold alone ?
Now do you know that Melchizedek wasn't a levite ? Cus Levi was a descendant of Abraham. So likewise, Pastors represent Priests and should receive the tithes.

A part of me sef would want people to stop paying tithe so that all these false men of God will loose interest in the business and look for a job but I can't support a false doctrine.

The bolded part got me....
You keep using the word "pay" tithe.
When the Bible says, "bring".

Can you see the difference?
They didn't pay tithes in the Bible stories, they brought tithe(food) to the levite, and ate with them.

"Bring ye the tithes"! But now it's... Pay your tithes!

ScepticalPyrrho:

The bolded part got me....
You keep using the word "pay" tithe.
When the Bible says, "bring".

Can you see the difference?
They didn't pay tithes in the Bible stories, they brought tithe(food) to the levite, and ate with them.

"Bring ye the tithes"! But now it's... Pay your tithes!

No wahala, bring your tithes

I'd rather drink zobo with mine and pour a little libation on top Yahweh's head. That's the one-tenth of the drink for him to sip

akintom:


Kikikikikikiki..... Yahweh na shayo master

I watched the Yoruba voice translation of Jackie Chan's drunken master few days back. Mhen, it's so amusing. I guess Yahweh can drinkfight more than Jackie himself

hardasan:

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No wahala, bring your tithes

you ran away from your thread and still got bashed here, pay tithe bring tithe ....greedy man pls go and work and stop soliciting for free money.

BERNIMOORE
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you ran away from your thread and still got bashed here, pay tithe bring tithe ....greedy man pls go and work and stop soliciting for free money.

Lol, I refused to reply your mentions anymore there cus you are arguing about Jesus indirectly. I avoid such arguments because it's easy to blaspheme in such arguments. If you are ready to talk on priests and pastors and only quote what Jesus said, I'm happy to debate

As explained in other thread . This is not the sacred tithe to God . It's like a national lovefeast ,vacation or camp meeting where they feast.

Christians are not tithing based on the law . The write up is just to clear the misrepresentation and misconception

THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF TITHES

There were three different kinds of tithes in the Bible . Daddy freeze dwell on a minor one to rubbish the major one .

The three different types are as follows:

1. THE LEVITICAL TITHE (sacred to God).

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord

This tithe is used for the work of service in the place of worship and also for the welfare of the workers there.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.


2. THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27).(daddy freeze beer boozing tithe )
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.


3. THE TITHE FOR THE POOR (Deut. 14:28, 29). (Every 3 years)
This is done once in very 3 years . It is shared among the poor . While the main annual tithe still runs .

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest

The first tithe, the one we trace back to Abra­ham (Gen. 14:18-20), is the sacred tithe, given to the Levites and priests for their service to the temple and the congregation in the Old Testa­ment. This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testa­ment. It is the tithe consecrated to God and the furtherance of the gospel and has, therefore, validity for all believers in Christ.

Paul was clear enough .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel

Now some may say Paul didn't accept support . That's no big deal . He didn't accept support in Corinth because of their carnality . But he accepted support from some other churches . Same goes for pastors today . Most pastors serve voluntarily. They don't receive support . Over 9% of pastors in Deeper life ,Redeem ,CEC, winners are serving voluntarily. They have their own jobs . In fact one of the criterial by which you are sent out is to first have a good job . Except only few who may be required to serve full time and they may have to resign from their job. To get support from church . Church tithe is used to pay workers , church rent , maintainance , equipment ,projects , generator fuel. Chair hire etc and other expenditures. The pastor is not the owner of church money . Every ministry has structure by which money is handled . A pastor in redeem cannot dip his hand into church account . There are approvals from head quarters for expenditure. Not what bloggers online post who don't even go to church

We are not giving tithes as commanded under the law . Our tithing dates to Abraham before the law came . And that it why the other kinds of tithes were not emphasized . So daddy freeze only dwell on the feast party which is not abrahamic . And antitithers are jumping up that they have a hero (who is not even a Christian )

Seriously this tithe issue is getting annoying