Diamondville:
you frustrated slowpoke, stop whining like a kid and also don't mention me again though i love bashing silly people like you

sainty2k3:
I have never seen anyone forced to pay tithe at gun point. If you are not convinced , go away and enjoy your money in the bar as you have been doing. Who cares. It is also highly discriminatory and you will be committing same crime if you tag people paying there Titihe as fools , ignorant or 'sheeple' . let everyone continue has they have been convinced. Some people are convinced there is no God , you didn't spend energy convincing them

sirBLUNT:
its obvious that you are failed abortion whose birth certificate is an apology letter from the condon factory!

finest0007:


Is your God some mafia boss you're paying money to for prosperity or protection? If your religious leaders can't provide a solid response to an OAP on this issue, it says a lot.

Diamondville:
you sound really pained and frustrated.. is this all you could come up with? overgrown idiot, the fact that your mother didn't succeed in aborting you doesn't mean other mothers also try to abort their kids like your mother.. now go home and cry to mama

sirBLUNT:
sorry sweet heart i know it really hurt but try harder nxt time..

Diamondville:
E pain am.. i know you're trying to console yourself.. how many rolls of tissue have you used to wipe your tears?

Diamondville:
it is not a payment to God for protection or prosperity, it is an act that shows that you love God enough to dedicate at least 10% of your income to him.. it also shows that you put him first in your finances

bedspread:

WHY NOT LEAVE ALL THESE TALK BY PERSONALLY LOOKING OUT FOR A PLACE THAT FEEDS U WITH THE WORD, A PLACE THAT TELLS YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT THE GOD AND HIS WORD, A PLACE THAT PREACHES AND PRACTICES HOLINESS, A PLACE THAT PRICKS YOU TO REPENTANCE.... PAY YOUR TITHE DER..... there are fraudsters everywhere I. The Name of Church... but There are also placed Where The True Gospel is preached...
It's your Choice bro....
Search For Where that GOD is . And Pay your Tithe There....
Am a CHOSEN, And I pay My Tithe in The Lords Chosen Charismatic Revival Movement

Diamondville:
i'm driving at a point.. and the point is that the tithe in deuteronomy is different from other tithes stated in the bible

PastorAIO:


Perhaps they are different, I don't know. If you say they are different please explain the difference to us. Every mention of tithe in the bible, as far as I know, is with regards to foodstuffs and those foodstuffs are eaten at the place where the tithe is taken to. If you know any different please show it to us.

Diamondville:
it is not a payment to God for protection or prosperity, it is an act that shows that you love God enough to dedicate at least 10% of your income to him.. it also shows that you put him first in your finances

Topgainer:

What true Gospel do you preach at Chosen? Women who use hair attachment shall go to hell.
Little wonder you behave the way you do. Listen, I am not convinced about your Chosen Movement. I will never again step into Chosen Movement, was there twice in 2007. I heard Pastor Muoka preach on the two occasions, I was not convinced that he is different from the others. I will rather worship with the Catholic Charismatic -watchman than join Muoka's mopol.
I don't like Muoka's Chosen. My choice is to separate what I like from what I don't like.
Regarding payment of Tithe, pay and do as you like, I don't care about that.
I will not say more in other not to spoil your Sunday, and deflate your self-righteousness and overbloated ego. Last line, don't dare armed bandits with your green Apron, they are not bulletproof vests.

bedspread:
I DONT WANT TO UNDERSTAND.... ALL I DO IS BELIEVE WAT MY BIBLE SAYS ....
YOU CANT THE THINGS AND WAYS OF GOD...
YOU HAVE TO BE A MUMU TO FOLLOW GOD COMMANDMENTS...... YOU NEED TO BELIEVE B4 U UNDERSTAND.... ITS A MYSTERY.....HAHAHAHA..... FOLLOWING GOD AND HIS WORD IS A MYSTERY

DJperdurabo:


I beg to differ!

There's nothing mysterious about worshipping or serving God, not as long as the Bible still exists.

His mind is revealed in the Bible.

Read your Bible more and listen less to man made doctrines that shackle instead of liberate.

Again, I reiterate that the argument is not about the benefit(s) of thiting (of which there are many) but, it's legality scripture wise.

Shalom!

PastorAIO:


Please, have you got scriptural backing for this statement that you've just made.

Does God not know those who love him until they 'pay' tithe?

I feel the need to reiterate that Tithe does not involve finances or income but rather the produce of the land.

And in Malachi the promise is that when the priests bring the full tithe into the Temple so it can be full of FOOD then the LAND will be fertile and bear much Fruits.

Malachi 3: 10
10 Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house.

Malachi 3: 11
11 I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of your soil, and your vine in the field shall not fail to bear, says the

Diamondville:
proverbs 3:9-10 and besides that too, if you love or honour God, you'll put him first in everything.. you won't think twice about giving.. also the bible says your heart is where your treasure is

PastorAIO:

Malachi 3: 11
11 I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of your soil, and your vine in the field shall not fail to bear, says the Lord of hosts.

The whole thing is about the fertility of the soil. The devourer is FAMINE.

miredia:
Which of these two do you think is of a higher priority to heaven: Giving to the needy, hungry, poor, sick and orphaned or erecting gigantic physical structures here and there through a taxation system(modern day tithing) by the church?

ogologoamu:



Only a fool thinks that church has no responsibility.

The business I am doing today was established for me by church.

Diamondville:
read hebrews 7:2

aribisala0:

Is Jesus the only baby to receive gifts what has that got to do with tithe>

What has paying tax to do with tithe.

You just brought up random and irrelevant events and try to sum them up into your silly conclusion
God gave clear instructions on stoning adulterers,circumcision,not eating pork , I could go on and on in the old testament why don't Christians folllow them.Why is tithing the one so important even thought it was very clear that that was not to be cash.God was very very specific about that..It was agricultural produceand there were 3 kinds but NONE was money .NONE.It did not apply to fishermen or those who were not farmers.Soldiers did not pay tithes e.g
What has the so called widow's mite got to do with tithe? What is the relevance of that to tithe? Was she paying a tithe?

Diamondville:
it is not a payment to God for protection or prosperity, it is an act that shows that you love God enough to dedicate at least 10% of your income to him.. it also shows that you put him first in your finances

Diamondville:
proverbs 3:9-10 and besides that too, if you love or honour God, you'll put him first in everything.. you won't think twice about giving.. also the bible says your heart is where your treasure is

Edelweiss44:


Mr Oversabi, let us help your gross ignorance a bit;

1) Gold is money! whoever gives you gold has given you money. Jesus received gold as a baby, which means he received money contrary to the claims of the unlearned fellow I was earlier responding to.

2) Tax in the secular society is the equivalent of tithe in God's kingdom here on earth! Just as tax is used to run the affairs of a secular state or kingdom, that is exactly how tithes are used to run the affairs of God's kingdom here on earth. You obviously are not a serious Christian, that is why you have not realised that if you go to church, the chairs you sit on were bought with money, the church building was built with money, the generator that powers the church was bought with money and runs on fuel bought with money. The church staff that run the administration of the church are paid with money so they can take care of their families since they can avoid having to work elsewhere and focus on doing church work. If your church ever does crusades, they cost a lot of money, and where would the money come from? Then if you belong to the kind of church I attend that gives scholarships to many less-priviledged people and runs a welfare programme for many less-priviledged every month, where do you expect the money for all these and more regular church-running costs to come from if not tithe? Even ordinary government of countries have enough sense to know that they have to ask citizens to pay taxes for the government to sustain itself, how much more the Almighty and All-knowing God!? Or do you expect God to throw down money from heaven to pay those bills for the church?

3) The fact that some countries' governments misuse their taxes and that you have some government officials stealing money, has that made people call for taxation to be abolished entirely? So why should God abolish tithing just because there are some fake pastors who deceive people in the name of God just to make money?

4) And who ever told you that tithes were just for farmers and agricultural people only? What bible have you been reading Mr man? Tithe as clearly spelt out in scriptures is a tenth of your income! Most people in the old times were farmers and agricultural people, so their income was in form of agricultural produce! Their agricultural produce was money at the time because they could exchange it for anything else. Today, most people have shifted from farming to other forms of work, but they still make income in the form of paper money rather than "farm produce money". God's principle of tithe remains the same even if His method has changed, just as taxation in the very olden days also used to be done through farm produce, but with time has evolved to paper money even though the principle remains the same.

5) Widow's mite was about a widow giving all the money she had as offering which is 100% giving, and Jesus was beside the offering collection watching what people were giving, and He commended the widow for giving every money she had to God in the offering. By your standard, Jesus should have pitied the woman and called her back to reduce the money she was giving as offering since she was just a "poor widow" that didn't have much, but sorry to shock you - Jesus accepted the offering and commended her for it. If Jesus did not have a problem with somebody paying 100% of her money to God, then why should He be offended when it's a mere 10% tithe?

6) Lastly, go and read Matthew 23:23 again and hear the words of Jesus concerning tithes! This was in the new testament that Jesus talked about tithes!

sacluxisback:


Read the whole chapter 7 , dont carve out

ScepticalPyrrho:
You have to renew your love for God by subscribing every pay-day because it expires?

Keep deceiving yourself.

Offpoint:


can you people please stop using the word *offpoint* please... aaaah