PenlsCaP:
But he He said "I and My Father are 1"

jfolorun:

You are right about this. Prophet Isaiah who foretold His birth says His name shall be "Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

PenlsCaP:
But he He said "I and My Father are 1"

Peacefullove:


and that means what ?

didn't he say his apostles will also be one just as he is one with his father.
so whatever submission you infer from his statement must likewise apply to his disciples , because he said " Just as " , are you now ready to admit that ?

PenlsCaP:

Do u kno abt blessed trinity?

Peacefullove:


oh, tell me about it ?

jfolorun:

You are right about this. Prophet Isaiah who foretold His birth says His name shall be "Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

PenlsCaP:

Do u kno abt blessed trinity?

uboma:




But Jesus Christ is not the Almighty God.

Jesus Christ was created by a Superior Spirit.

newsynews:
Emp.iree ab.delkabir ri.lwayne001 vedaxc.ool aminu.santi uda.tso Friend.NG

come and watch this awesome video so that you won't go about ignorantly asking the stupid question "where did Jesus say, I am God worship me? "

Empiree:
when you sort this out with your fellow christians (unitarians), who don't believe Jesus is God, only then you can get muslims involved.

Btw, the David Wood of all people? He is quoting Bible according to others not Bible according to Jesus himself. Abeg, tell David Wood that he is not that smart

jfolorun:

I disagree Sir, the Bible is clear about the identity of Jesus. He is the Creator and not a created being.

newsynews:

come and watch this awesome video so that you won't go about ignorantly asking the stupid question "where did Jesus say, I am God worship me? "

udatso:

You better tell him oooo. It's like he is a new comer in this forum. or is it possible he doesn't know or believe there are Unitarians?

Empiree:
when you sort this out with your fellow christians (unitarians), who don't believe Jesus is God, only then you can get muslims involved.

Btw, the David Wood of all people? He is quoting Bible according to others not Bible according to Jesus himself. Abeg, tell David Wood that he is not that smart

Empiree:
when you sort this out with your fellow christians (unitarians), who don't believe Jesus is God, only then you can get muslims involved.

Btw, the David Wood of all people? He is quoting Bible according to others not Bible according to Jesus himself. Abeg, tell David Wood that he is not that smart

Rilwayne001:


The problem I have now is not whether Jesus claim to be God or not, the problem I have now is the
Bible. Once we can establish the veracity of the Bible, then we can discuss what's there in.

But the question still stands anyway.

Rilwayne001:


The problem I have now is not whether Jesus claim to be God or not, the problem Once we can establish the veracity of the Bible, then we can discuss what's there in.

But the question still stands anyway.

jfolorun:
"Show me in the Bible where Jesus said I am God and you should worship me." Christians are asked by moslems to provide the evidence of the divinity of Jesus Christ. Can we also ask the moslems to show evidences to support where Jesus said " I am only a prophet, do not worship me?"
Did Jesus ever made claims only God could make?
This video explains it all, please watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS-lLTfCI7c

newsynews:
It's no like there is no division among Muslims too. They have Sunni and Shia divide. Should that stop me from tackling whatever they bring against Christianity? No.

Guy, your failure to address the video on the grounds of a divide in Christianity is just a way to excuse yourself from the truth which you can't tackle.

Empiree:
What are you talking about? My post perfectly addresses your concern but you failed to comprehend. Sunni and shia believe Allah is God and Creator. None believe prophet Muhammad(p) is God. We aren't talking about sectarianism here.


But in christianity, you have trinitarian who believe Jesus is God, part of God, son of God, one of the trinity. On the other hand you have unitarian who don't believe in this crap. So solve you differences first before you get muslims involved. Got it?

newsynews:
What you just did is the typical Islamic tactics when confronted with obvious Bible truth.

Muslims ask for certain clarity in the Bible and boast that such can't be found therein. When shown to them beyond dispute, they resort to an Islamic tactic that sees them questioning the veracity of the Bible.

Where was this tactics when you lots love to pull verses wrongly to show that the Bible spoke of Mohammad?Now, where in the Quran does it expressly state that the Bible has been corrupted? I wonder why Muslims hold this notion. This is what has been used to deceive them from accepting the truth the book holds.

newsynews:

Let me make it easy for you Muslims. Since you say some Christians don't believe in Trinity, then join such Christians in disputing the biblical proves provided in the video. At least, you now have support.

Rilwayne001:

Well, I'm sorry but you are wrong. I didn't even bother to watch the video to ascertain your so called Bible truth. Perhaps you can help by pointing out the supposed truth so we can iron it out.

Empiree:
I actually watched the 15 minutes video posted by the op for benefit of the doubt. I'd thought they 'found' Bible of Jesus not knowing the dude was still quoting same old nonsense we already trashed

Rilwayne001:


Thank God I didn't waste my MB

Empiree:
i guess newsynews is a virgin on this subject. Your 2yrs old thread i just updated lately covers his request. He needs to go through that thread

Empiree:
In that case you have to tell us which bible. If we want to discuss this, you gonna have to use Gospel according to Jesus. Not Gospel according to every tom, dick and harry. You understand?.

The guy quoted from Gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, which means every word spoken there was put in Jesus mouth. That's Called FRAUD. So present Gospel according to Jesus for better discussion. Otherwise, your argument is null and void