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Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Bahddo(m): 7:52am On Dec 11, 2017 |
CAPSLOCKED:don't be ignorant. There was never 'just one [copy of the Bible], in the hands of the pope'. |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by barcaboi(m): 8:03am On Dec 11, 2017 |
desreek9:pentecostals don't recite the Lord's prayer? tell me more |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Chron1cle(m): 8:16am On Dec 11, 2017 |
Raiyell:What a pig with an empty skull. Dirty thing. |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Theboss100(m): 9:32am On Dec 11, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe:stop living in stone age. The correct prayer is. OUR FATHER, WHO ART IN HEAVEN. HALLOWED BE THY NAME, THY KINGDOM HAS COME. THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS DONE IN HEAVEN. AND LEAVE US NOT IN TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL. AMEN. PRAY THIS PRAYER EVERYDAY AND NOTHING URE LOOKING FOR THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN YHE PRAYER. GOD BLESSS. |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Smeago007(m): 9:54am On Dec 11, 2017 |
what a generation of modification of Gods words is the bible a constitution that needs reviewing at times 2 Timothy 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV) All Scripture is with the inspiration of God and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. we are now correction the bible oh God!!! catholics why no wonder Jesus said Out of the inspiration of God said Mathew 15 vs 9 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’” Here's what the bible has to say about potential editors and modifiers Matthew 5:18-19 King James Version (KJV) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Hear o perverted generation Flee from evil |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by makoota: 9:55am On Dec 11, 2017 |
Malcolm101:What do u mean? Catholic church is in the forefront of opposition against gay marriage. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by makoota: 10:00am On Dec 11, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe:What u are reading from the English bi le were all translated. Linguistic is a very hard course to do when it comes to translation. Some languages dont have words others have and while translating it becomes a problem. It is the problem of translation. I think the pope is right. |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Aquina: 10:13am On Dec 11, 2017 |
Even the BIBLE , YOUR CHURCH USE TODAY IS FROM CATHOLIC CHURCH.the POPE has the right to give a correct translation. NwaAmaikpe: |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by haftob(m): 10:22am On Dec 11, 2017 |
NwaAmaikpe: Are they just changing verses from the bible? They've been doing it since the king James era. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by saintmark88(m): 10:41am On Dec 11, 2017 |
Ladyhippolyta88: I still have a problem with this pagan belief merging with Christianity, what do u mean by merging pagan belief with Christianity, if I may ask...... |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Prosper123: 10:52am On Dec 11, 2017 |
What of one of the ten commandment that catholics removed. The one about having graven image. Will the pope correct that one. Afterall, I think it is more important than the Lord's prayer. Just saying |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by vikturaikay(m): 11:08am On Dec 11, 2017 |
Get your facts right b4 you start fooling yourself online. Christians everywhere recites the Lord's prayer. Google is still your friend if you are not a Christian. Shalom desreek9: |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Nobody: 11:37am On Dec 11, 2017 |
musicwriter:Ok but even if you are talking about the Old Testament, it wasn't written in Amharic language. Because Amharic only appeared in 1st millennium AD. It might have been written first in another Ethiopian or language that were spoken around the Nile river. You are right that Europeans are claiming what isn't theirs. I hope Africa is in the last phase of the dark age. A lot of awareness is being given to Africans about their history. The stealing won't last long. I read online that the exodus happened from Ethiopia to Yemen not from Egypt to Israel. What do you say about it? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Nobody: 12:43pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Hati13:LOL Is there even any Egyptian record of Jewish mass emigration from ancient Egypt? And who exactly was the Pharaoh during the time of Moses? ? |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Nobody: 12:53pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
imhotep:The person who said about Ethiopia to Yemen exodus also mentioned your points. I think ppl believe in Egypt to Israel exodus because the Old Testament say so. There is lots of corruption happened to human history. It's very frustrating. |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Nobody: 12:58pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Hati13:Yes my biggest worry is the Pharaoh who has NO NAME in the exodus story. The Nubian pharaoh Taharqa is mentioned in 2 Kings 19:9 and Isaiah 37:9 |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by musicwriter(m): 1:08pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Hati13: Well, I' am not a language expert to know when Ahramic language first appeared. I was quoting an Egyptologist and expert on this topic, Professor Yosef Ben Joachannan, in his book, African origins of the major western religions. I have it in audio book and can email it to you, if you like. Whatever the language the first scriptures written, it must have been the language spoken along the Nile where Moses was born. According to the bible and Torah, Moses was born along the river Nile, not in the Middle East, not in Europe. Yes, indeed, the Exodus story must have happened from East Africa to Arabia or Yemen enroute Canaan. Anybody who places a map and the bible side by side can figure it out themselves. I wrote something about that sometime ago. See link www.africason.com/2016/01/the-lost-history-why-was-black-history.html?m=1 Important; There's a well researched documentary at the bottom of the article that throws even more light on this. Make sure to watch it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 3:54pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
saintmark88:The introduction of Julian Calendar had eight days.Later on the popularity of the eight day weeks diminished.In Rome constantine the Roman emperor made the seven day week official in AD 321.It is widely believed that the days of the week were named after pagan gods,just like months of the year in the Gregorian calendar. It is believed that constantine changed the Christian day of worship from Saturday to Sunday in honour of the sun god (the cult of sol invictus).Also the day of Christmas 25th of December to honour the sun god.That is why Santa Claus the elves and others that are associated with Christmas are believed to have pagan mythology and why some churches do not celebrate christmas.That was part of the changes constant brought into Christianity and also why some critics accuse the Roman catholic church of links to paganism and not true Christianity. These are the things i researched from the internet and none is my personal opinion. |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Nobody: 3:56pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
musicwriter:I've read the info in the link. I'm currently not on WIFI, so I will watch the video in your blog when it's available to me. Good work brother. You made a lot of good points. This is what we need. Raising awareness about the true Africa history and the lie Europeans told for the last 2 millennium. The ancient Greeks were relatively honest than other Europeans. They credited African civilizations for their own achievements. They said Blacks; especially Cushites to be God chosen and the most beautiful ppl. Read the great info in this pdf link, http://www.metaphysicspirit.com/books/Wonderful%20Ethiopians%20of%20the%20Ancient%20Cushite%20Empire.pdf Here in Ethiopia, our forefathers always imagined Jesus, Adam or any other Biblical characters as Black. There is a funny saying which says, some ppl are very dark because God cooked them very much. Some ppl are white because God didn't cooked them well. But some ppl are brown/medium black (Ethiopians) because God cooked them well. lol. I'm not a believer in any religion, but I believe that the man Jesus, Israelis and Egyptians were Black. But the white men are doing their best in spreading their lies to the population here for the last century. They even were trying to whitewash our history, but Ethiopian and honest European scholars came and stopped the lie claim. They were saying that every great achievements Ethiopia achieved was as a result of foreigners. But now because of the extensive evidences, this claim was totally discarded. Afroasiatic originated in Ethiopia. The Egyptians themselves said they came from the land of Punt (it was located in the Horn of Africa). And different numbers of native Semitic languages are found in Ethiopia not Middle East. The first below pic are Black Adam/Hewan of Ethiopia church. The other 3 are Cushite ppl. Ancient Egyptian and Cushite were sisters ppl.
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Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by musicwriter(m): 4:54pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Hat13: Thanks for the link. Yes, its not about religion, neither am I a religious person. Its about putting history straight once and for all. There was a time white people didn't even exist on this earth. The only people that has always been on planet earth are black people. Every other race came from us. European history can't begin, unless Greek history begins. So, nothing in the old testament has anything to do with white people. And there's no doubt ancient Ethiopia, Sudan, and Egypt were once one big country. Pharoah Menes, Shabakah, and Tarharqa once ruled the entire region. Anybody doubting it should read it in their own bible. Pharaoh Taharqa or Tiharqa was mentioned in the bible at 2 Kings 19: 8-13, 2 Kings 19: 9, 2 Kings 19: 8. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by saintmark88(m): 5:21pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Ladyhippolyta88: So u saw someone's opinion n u believe it because u saw it on d internet. All u have said doesn't prove mixing Christianity with paganism. In Rome den dey worshipped the sun God, is it not natural that since the people were used to celebrating what ever feast they used to celebrate like Christmas , the best way to stop dem from celebrating that feast is to replace it with Christmas, the birth of Christ and thru that medium, pple would be converted and get to know more about Christ?.....exactly what constantine did n whoa!!!!...it worked. About the calendar, I don't know what calendar has got to do with Christianity, so now that u use the Gregorian calendar, r u now an idol worshipper What ever is agreed on earth is agreed in heaven, constantine didn't make these changes alone, he must have done it with the church. Human begins will always criticize and say nonsense, I have not seen NY paganism here...... |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:47pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
I never said i believe it all these are facts not fictions. Why i brought the Calendar issue was because it has some Roman and Greek origin also some of these were modified during constantine era what i mentioned before and no it doesn't make one an idol worshipper.It is just an healthy argument and nothing more.All i said are on the internet whether the Christmas celebrations were to bring in new converts are actually what some scholars have argued.Anyways nice learning from you.But if you read about all these objectively you would see that some of them had some pagan backgrounds whether it is true or not is left for you to judge.Like i said earlier none is my personal opinion,thank you. saintmark88: |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by saintmark88(m): 5:53pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Ladyhippolyta88: U r welcome..... |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by dachaste(f): 6:13pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
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Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Gggg102(m): 8:03pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
Smeago007: The bible you quoted from is modified. New international version There have been different versions of Bibles right from time. From king james to revised standard version 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Gggg102(m): 8:08pm On Dec 11, 2017 |
All this "Christians" thinking English was the original language of the bible are the ones that don't understand what the pope is saying. Jesus never spoke English Heck he wasn't even called Jesus. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by Ubenedictus(m): 6:54pm On Dec 12, 2017 |
Prosper123:the Catholics didn't remove any commandment. we have the complete commandments including the one about graven images. don't lie about things you're ignorant of. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by goodheart02(m): 12:11am On Dec 18, 2017 |
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Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by goodheart02(m): 6:29pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
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Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by dachaste(f): 9:04pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
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Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by dachaste(f): 9:06pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
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Re: Pope Francis Wants The ‘lord’s Prayer’ Changed by goodheart02(m): 8:11am On Dec 21, 2017 |
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