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An Alleged Conversion Story With Our Response by AlBaqir(m): 6:27pm On Dec 21, 2017
CONVERSION STORY OF ONE ABUBARKAR IDRIS MOHAMMED
left Islam because I studied Muhammad's life.

I accepted the Gospel because I studied Jesus' life.

1.When I studied Muhammad's life, what I found was a gold digger who in his 25 years of age married a 40-year old
wealthy widow (Khadijah), Muhammad got troubled and terrified when he started receiving revelation from the fallen angel, even though he admitted that he was demon possessed, his wealthy wife convinced him to proclaim the
revelation.

He moved on to marry a 6 year old child named Aisha when he was 52 and consummated his marriage when Aisha was nine years old.

He was received by Jewish community as a refugee after he claimed that he was fleeing persecution from his own Meccan people who accused him of intolerance against their Pagan religion. Few years after he was sheltered and
supported by the Jewish community, he plot to conquer them and eventually turned against them and wiped out the
entire Jewish tribe out of Arabia. He was known for his warmongering. Himself participated in 28 bloody wars which are called Ghuzwa, and sent troops 54 times for different bloody wars, altogether there are 82 wars under his watch and commands.

A man who has been a role model for groups like Isis, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Al-Nusra, Islamic Jihad, Al-
Shabaab, Abu Sayyaf and other Islamic terrorist groups, doesn't deserve anyone's respect but criticism and
mockery.

He was poisoned to death by his Jewess maid when he slaughtered her entire family. He's dead and will never return again but his legacy continues to wreck havoc and chaos around the world.

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2.When I studied Jesus's life, what I found was the one who was born without sin, he dedicated his life serving the poor,
he created bread and wine to feed the poor, stopped group of men from stoning a woman to death, healed the sick, lame, blind, deaf and raises people from the dead, he commands storm to calm, he exorcise a boy possessed by a demon, he performed numerous miracles and
demonstrated his power over nature and spirits.

People from all over the world from different ethnicity, nationality, race and religions are healed everyday in the
name of Jesus. Non-believers dream of him and embrace him without been told to do so.

Jesus died on the cross, buried and was resurrected, ascended to Heaven, and is coming back again. The story of Jesus is a story everyone would be proud to share. No one has ever invoked his name to commit atrocity because he has always condemn violence and told his
followers not to pay back evil with evil.
Religion misleads people but Jesus saves people, No matter how good you are; no matter how religious you are; no
matter what you do for God, you can never be good enough, or holy enough to earn salvation, any plan of salvation that
is based on the efforts of man is doomed to failure.

For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest
anyone should boast. (Eph. 2:8-9,
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Jesus vs Muhammad is not like Apple vs Orange, It's Good vs Evil, Light over Darkness. the difference is clear even
though some are too blind to see it and to acknowledge the great gap between the 2, they still fall the victim of early
indoctrination and ignorance .

Abubakar Idris Mohammed

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Re: An Alleged Conversion Story With Our Response by AlBaqir(m): 6:29pm On Dec 21, 2017
I hope you will have patience and be open-minded to read this epistle as you've read those submissions above.

OUR RESPONSE TO THE ABOVE ALLEGATIONS

With all due respect, while I believe everyone is entitled to believe in whatever he wishes (which should however, be borne out of sincere research, intellectual argument and conviction), I don't think a reasonable and knowledgeable person will come out in this modern age, submit falsity and labeled it "conviction" all in the name of changing faith.

Allow me to expose the ignorance and false information of the above writer.

# CLAIM 1: CHANGING OF FAITH

• OUR INVESTIGATIONS:

Quran is crystal clear when it says in Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 256:

"There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the satan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing."

For one reason or the other, be it out of conviction or out of material gain/profit or even wedlock, or even mere love (for something), people switch religion. And the fact that religion is first, a personal relationship between man and his Lord, whatever motive it is in the heart that makes one switch religion shall surely be judged by, "He who knows the secrets" (Quran says).

# CLAIM 2: THAT PROPHET OF ISLAM MARRIED LADY KHADIJAH, A WEALTHY WIDOW

• OUR INVESTIGATIONS:

First, our writer will have to convince us:

* That it is a crime to marry a woman older and wealthier than oneself?!

Obviously, this writer's intentions was obvious when he accused the Prophet of Islam as a "gold digger". His assumption was that Muhammad inherited the vast wealth of Khadijah when she died. Meaning that he married her for the purpose of her wealth.

* So, we need a clear evidence from this polemic writer that Muhammad EVER amassed wealth and became rich after the death of his wife, the wealthy lady Khadijah.

# For a fact, Muhammad remained "poor" throughout his life. He was an 100% ascetic.

# And for a fact, it was lady Khadijah that proposed and insisted on marrying the young Muhammad having saw his excellent, impeccable and unmatched moral characters in a perverse environment of the then Arabia. Muhammad had initially for years worked for lady Khadijah as her business manager. The highest form of trustworthiness and truthfulness he displayed among other impeccable virtues was what convinced lady Khadijah to marry the young Muhammad.

# CLAIM 3: THAT MUHAMMAD MARRIED A "6 YEAR OLD" AISHAH.

• OUR INVESTIGATIONS:

This issue is one of the most controversial, historical blunders as far as (Islamic) scholarly research is concern. Of course, Muhammad's or Islam's antagonists doesn't care about academic research or knowing the truth. However, we now live in a modern informative world where one could become a laughing stock in an academic environment for submitting ignorance.

This issue is more or less like the controversial issue of holy Mary "at 9 or 12 years who allegedly married to a 90 years old Joseph, the carpenter". Although many Christians of today laboured to deny this but Catholic Encyclopaedia among many other Christian documents reported it.

Anyway, for a clear fact, Aishah was historically between 19 to 23 years of age when she married the Prophet of Islam.

Whoever wishes to read our submission with all historically acceptable evidences and scientific analysis should read our report here:
www.nairaland.com/4131328/aisha-actually-not-six-when



# CLAIM 4: THAT MUHAMMAD TERRIFIED WHILE RECEIVING REVELATIONS...CLAIMING IT IS DEVIL'S HANDIWORK...

• OUR INVESTIGATIONS:

While with 100% confidence we can confirmed that there's no single authentic evidence to support this impersonating claim, Qur'an says to all antagonists (like our writer) as regard Muhammad and revelation it received:

Surah An-Najm (the Star), Verse 2 - 5:

"Your companion (i.e Muhammad) does not err, nor does he go astray;

Nor does he speaks out of his base desire

It is naught but revelation that is revealed

The Lord of Mighty Power has taught him..."

* AN IMPORTANT QUICK NOTE: Antagonists will definitely reject the above verses coming from God that who were the witnesses?

For all what it is, Bible also claimed to be "book of God". Who were its witnesses?

The fact is that there should be an acid test to determine whether a book is divine, that is of God or not. Qur'an proffer the challenge:

Surah An-Nisa, Verse 82:

"Do they not then meditate on the Quran? And if it were from any other than Allah, they would have found in it many a discrepancy."

Qur'an further made another stern challenge:

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 23:

"And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant (i.e Muhammad), then produce a chapter like it (i.e like Quran) and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful."

# CLAIM 5: MIGRATION OF MUHAMMAD, KILLING OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY...

• OUR INVESTIGATIONS: Another ignorance of this writer was that the Prophet of Islam was received by the Jewish community after being chased out of his home town.

Unfortunately, there's no iota of truth in this claim. The Prophet of Islam after being persecuted in Makkah, migrated to, and was received by his followers in Madina. All historical sources confirmed this.

* However, as regards to the Jewish community in Madina, they were of different groups which both Quran and Islamic history exposed. One group simply did not accept Muhammad as a Prophet of God (just like they rejected Jesus Christ) and they worked round the clock against him and his mission. They plotted with the Polytheists and hypocrites to the downfall of Muhammad and his followers. They went to the extent of waging wars against him because his teachings threatened their survival.

On the other hand, there is another group that lived peacefully with Muhammad and his followers. Quran says regarding these Jewish (and Christian) different groups thus:

Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 82:

"Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly. "

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Re: An Alleged Conversion Story With Our Response by AlBaqir(m): 6:31pm On Dec 21, 2017
# CLAIM 6: WARS FOUGHT BY MUHAMMAD

* OUR INVESTIGATIONS:

If I were to tender reasons why Muhammad had to go to war with the evil groups I have highlighted above, it will seemed being biased, the fact that I am one of his ardent follower. However, my task becomes simple in the fact that the following western historians have written excellent books about Muhammad defending his wars on moral and political ground:

A. Michael H. Hart, a renowned American historian and scientist (an Astrophysicist). He wrote the book, "The 100, A ranking of the most influential persons in history".
https://www.amazon.com/100-Ranking-Influential-Persons-History/dp/0806513500

In this book, he placed Muhammad as number ONE as against his "Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ" whom he placed at a distant number 5.


B. Karen Armstrong, a British renowned author and historian. She wrote, "Muhammad, A Prophet for our time"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad:_A_Prophet_For_Our_Time

* The clear fact to dispel the ignorance of this writer is that all the wars fought by the Prophet of Islam were defensive in nature.

If you are being persecuted alongside your family and followers, even common sense and law of nature accepts that you defend yourself, family, followers and properties.

Interestingly, as against modern day Christian myth, Jesus Christ himself would have defend himself, his followers and missions. For a fact, he commanded his followers to buy swords:

'He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.” — Luke 22:36

Funnily, Christians are quick to interpret this "sword" as parable. But John 18:10 tells us it was a real sword:

"Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest's servant, cutting off his right ear. (The
servant's name was Malchus.)".

# WHY DID JESUS NOT WAR WITH HIS ENEMIES?

The obvious truth was that Jesus had weak and ill prepared followers. At one time, bible says:

"Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. "Couldn't you men keep watch with me for one hour?" he asked Peter." - Matthew 26: 40

• Then, Bible revealed that at the most critical time when the enemies came calling:

"Then all His disciples deserted Him and fled." - Mark 14:50.

My point is that every human being has the right to defend himself, family, followers, properties and honour when there is (are) violent attack against him. This was what the Prophet of Islam did with a clear caution from his Lord:

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 190:

"And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits."



# CLAIM 7: MUHAMMAD, AN ALLEGED ROLE MODEL OF THE TERRORIST GROUPS LIKE ISIS, BOKO HARAM etc.

• OUR INVESTIGATIONS:

For a fact, there were 1.2 to 1.5 billion Muslims on the planet. Only a fraction of this huge population are rogues displaying terrorism. If this fraction in their evil doings are said to emulate Muhammad, why can't the bulk majority of the Muslims who are peace loving said to emulate the same Muhammad?!

* If you judge Islam or Muhammad by the evil of a fraction (compare to the good and peace loving majority), then, is it fair to judge the atrocities of the Christian crusaders, corruption and the criminal acts of the then Papacy (of the Roman Catholics) with Christianity and Jesus? Were those bad eggs being motivated by Jesus and Christian injunctions despite using those names to perpetrate their acts?!



# CLAIM 8: THAT MUHAMMAD WAS POISONED BY HIS JEWISH MAID

• OUR INVESTIGATIONS:

There are contradictory documents (ahadith) in this regard. However, for a fact, it was not a Jewish maid of the Prophet of Islam that tried to poisoned him, but by a Jewish woman named Zaynab bint al-Haarith, the wife of Salaam ibn Mashkam, one of the leaders of the Jews of Madina. She came as a friend sent by her community to present gifts of which meats were there.

# The first report claimed Muhammad never ate the meat before he discovered it was poisoned.

# Second report claimed he did ate the meat but did not died, rather died 5 years later from the effect of the poison.

The two reports contradict each other. Therefore we can decided to throw the two reports into trash bin even for that reason alone. However, the first report seemed to be accurate for the following reasons rubbishing the second report:

* The poisoned meat was allegedly eaten by Muhammad in the 6th year of Hijrah. Muhammad NEVER felt ill even for a moment until the 11th year of Hijrah when he died after brief illness. What kind of poison will fail to work after being ingested for 5 years, only to work 5 years after ingestion?

* Muhammad in several occasions even in the most difficult stages was always been informed by his Lord of the evil plots of evil plotters against him. Why would his Lord left him uninformed at that serious moment that can cost the life of His Messenger?

These are facts for the seekers of truth.

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Re: An Alleged Conversion Story With Our Response by AlBaqir(m): 6:35pm On Dec 21, 2017
OUR BELIEF IN JESUS CHRIST

# CLAIM: THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS AND MUHAMMAD IS NOT LIKE APPLE AND ORANGES RATHER GOOD AND EVIL.

• OUR SUBMISSIONS:

First, unlike the Jews who saw Jesus Christ as a criminal (and his mother as a prostitute), Muslims regards those personalities (Jesus and his mother, Mary) in the highest degree any Christian can ever imagine. Unfortunately, Christian today romance with the Jews who neither believe in your bible nor Jesus (and Mary).

Anyway, Quran cautions the Muslims regarding the Messengers of God:

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 285:

"...We make no difference between any of His apostles; and they say: We hear and obey, our Lord! Thy forgiveness (do we crave), and to Thee is the eventual course."

# For a fact, Christians just like the Jews, do not believe in the Prophethood of Muhammad. Just like the Jew regards Jesus as criminal, the Christians too do the same to Muhammad. This is where Muslims are different from both Christian and the Jews.

# For the records, the distinctive features of our belief in Jesus Christ as against the Christian are as follows:


UNITY OF GOD
1. We do not believe that Jesus is God, Lord, 3 in 1 God (whatever the meaning of that is). We believe in him as among the Messenger of God sent for the guidance of the people of Israel at a certain time. For a fact, Jesus himself says:

"But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the
lost sheep of the house of Israel." - Matthew 15: 24

And also for a fact, the subject of trinity which was briefly discussed in 1 John 5: 7 which says, "For there are three that bear records in heavens, the father, the son and the holy spirit; and these three are ONE".

This particular verse can ONLY be found in KJV of the Bible and NEVER in ANY other versions of the Bible. This alone puts lots of question marks on the subject of trinity, apart from the fact that Jesus himself declared:

"The first of all the commandment, is 'Hear O Israel, the Lord, Our God, the Lord is ONE" - mark 12:29.


HIS BIRTH
2. We believe in Jesus miraculous birth but never did we misunderstood this to make him God or son of God (not in metaphorical way). Our believe is God is able to do all thing unimaginable however He do not exercise His power but with wisdom and for specific purposes.

For a fact, if the miraculous birth of Jesus can make him God, or "son of God", then what about Adam and Eve whom were created from inanimated object (clay) and (for the sake of argument) rib of Adam respectively?! After all, Jesus was created from a woman, an animated being. Adam and Eve too deserved to be " Gods" or "Children of God" for that reason. However, Quran says, "those are nothing but Power of God".

Here, Christians are quick to talk about "original sin" as what defeat the argument of comparing Adams creation and Jesus birth. This is one of my most favourite subject, and I wish I can see a challenge on it.


HIS MIRACULOUS WORKS
3. We believe he did performed series of miracles needed at that time to convince people that he was truly God sent. In fact his environment was so perverse that despite seeing clear manifestations in Jesus work, they NEVER EVER believe in him. At a point when some of them continue to demand for miracle, Jesus answered him:

"Only An evil and adulterous generations seek after miracle..."

And for a fact, the Bible says in Acts of apostles 2: 22 thus:

“Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of
Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know."

This particular verse of the bible perfectly summarised Islamic belief in Jesus Christ as against what our Christian brethren of today teaches.


HIS DEATH AND CRUCIFIXION
4. Then, we do not believe that Jesus died on the cross of Calvary not to mention of dying for mankind sins.

* For facts, Jesus himself prophesied this:

"But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." - Matthew 12: 39 - 40

# It is indeed a miracle, a sign that Jonah did not die in the belle of the whale (sea monster) for 3 days and 3 nights. If Jesus could regard that as the only manifestation, a miracle, a sign and then LIKEN his "staying in the heart of the earth" for similar periods, it only makes sense that Jesus did not die just like Jonah. For if he died and then resurrected, then it is no longer like the miracle of Jonah.

# And interestingly, Christian in line with report in the Bible believed Jesus died on Friday evening and resurrected before dawn on first day of the week (Sunday). That is NEVER equivalent to 3 days and 3 nights which Jesus prophesied.

* There are lots of cracks in these stories especially when one studies reports according to Matthew, Mark and Luke. For a fact, as submitted earlier, none of the disciples ever stayed behind to know how the event of the so-called death of Jesus took place, yet they wrote account of it.

Anyway, as Quran says:

"...he (Jesus) was neither killed nor crucified...for surety, he was not killed." - Sura Nisa

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