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Birth Tourism: US Block Visas For Pregnant Women Visiting To Give Birth / General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 6 / Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program- Connect Here Part 6 (2) (3) (4)
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by chikos: 7:15pm On Dec 25, 2017|
[quote author=nefertitiram post=63584539]
Merry Xmas JW. But y u nor wait till 01/01/2018 eh kwa?
I have sent u one Xmas chicken. E de road de trek de come.
But wait... After JW it seems I'm one of the oldest members of this thread. From pre- tsunami to season 1 to season 6. Back to back.
Hey nefertitiram, shey u took 2018 is a long time, in few days time we go enter 2018.so missionary journey lloading for u.this time na twins�
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by nefertitiram: 11:38pm On Dec 25, 2017|
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by nefertitiram: 11:38pm On Dec 25, 2017|
[quote author=chikos post=63603772][/quote]
Lol!!! Amen oooo! Like play like play! It is already here o.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by shawlar(m): 12:07am On Dec 26, 2017|
Nef is a bona-fide elder of this thread ooo....
Elder Ma, immediately I saw your request I arranged the items and wanted to send it through waybill to your place but fuel scarcity don hold the transporter down so you won't be able to get it anymore... Just make do with these ones
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by nefertitiram: 12:26am On Dec 26, 2017|
The ancestors have accepted your gifts. Mbok, where is the 100k?
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by shawlar(m): 7:30am On Dec 26, 2017|
I did not forget it,
As you did not put the currency there, I could only assume you meant 100k in the currency of the gods ie cowries .. Since I'm in the village for Christmas, I have made an appointment with the local babalawo to convert my cash to cowries. He will also help transmit the cowries to you via una ancestral network. Abeg, nyem your IP location abi na wallet address...
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Ahmadrc: 7:36am On Dec 26, 2017|
good day all , please if anyone opened bank account on /or near JFK
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Christine77: 9:09am On Dec 26, 2017|
Merry Christmas everyone!! Hope you all had a good one!
Thanks to everyone who helps keep this forum running by responding to questions and giving advice and correct information.
Hopefully this New Year ahead will bring more approvals than denials ��.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by DonDraper: 11:17am On Dec 26, 2017|
Of course, I shouldn't fail to mention the Oga @ the Top for providing this beneficial platform for us to connect and share information. That reminds me. I have a feedback for management on the recent policy against the sharing of information on hospitals/doctors not advertising here. I believe there is a win-win solution. While I am in total support for the monetization of this thread, I am against the disenfranchisement of the rights to post freely. People made this thread what it is today by constantly contributing and that is why corporations are advertising here.
It hurts when posts in response to a kind request gets deleted. What you may observe is an increae in backdoor connections which is against the essence of this thread. Take a look at the Reddit model. There is always a win-win situation between keeping your contributors and getting advertisement. I know this is a sensitive issue so I will end it here.
By the way, Oga @Seun when are you listing NL on NSE? Hurry up so I can buy some shares and make some money off my lil contributions.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by DonDraper: 1:25pm On Dec 26, 2017|
You asked for it so here it is. I hope after eating all that rice and chicken you still have energy to read my long post. On a lighter note, it may help speed up your digestion
Greetings everyone, firstly I would like to appreciate all the contributors on this forum. Your inputs have been invaluable to me resulting to a seamless missionary journey. It is heartwarming to read posts about members getting visas after the period of visa denials. To those who got theirs I say congratulations and to those who didn’t, work on the feedbacks received and reapply. I look forward to good tidings in 2018. Amen.
This post is to give back to the community I have learnt so much from. It would also be my pleasure to share some tips I got from members offline. Truly, CBPs and VOs read this thread so I would use the opportunity to lend my voice to the discussions on discounts and packages for international self-paying patients. Kindly bear with me if this post is too long, although, I’ve divided it into 3 parts (Pre-trip, Pre-LO Arrival, and The Return Home) to help with that.
Online reviews proved useful in choosing a hospital and an associated OB-GYN among the usual suspects around Houston: WHMC, Oakbend, HNWMC, Methodist Sugarland, Memorial, and Doctores Para Ti etc. Moreover, the right decisions are made when you invest time in reviewing pros and cons of options available to you. I highly recommend this habit. So, look out for my review on the hospital and OB-GYN in subsequent posts. Furthermore, I ensured that I read all the recent POE experiences posted on this thread especially those related to Houston IAH – our POE. In addition, I sent the unnecessary Change of Intent mail and got the usual response. With these knowledge, I armed myself with the advised burden of proof listed below:
1. About $9k cash
2. Return ticket
3. Bank account statements: Naira and Dollar accounts
4. Dollar Debit card
5. Employment letter
6. Correspondence with Houston North-West Medical Centre’s (HNWMC) Financial Counsellor.
7. Correspondence with Dr Xydas’ Office Manager
8. Appointment letter from Dr Xydas’ OM stating total bill
9. Details of HNWMC package for self-pay patients (called Miracle Moments)
10. Marriage certificate
11. Airbnb receipt stating house address in Houston
12. Change of Intent correspondence
I was at 34 weeks when I left Naija with DH aboard an Air France (AF) flight. In-flight service was just ok; the flight crew could have done better by truly giving special treatment to pregnant women as stated on their website. Notwithstanding, the layover was short and we benefited from the Flying Blue Programme so overall the trip was great. While booking my flight I didn’t request for a wheelchair because I am Wonder Woman. LOL. But seriously, I didn’t feel I needed it besides walking is good for you and the baby. Consequently, yours truly strolled the distance from boarding gate to CBP. At Houston IAH, the length of the queues was fair, hence within minutes of joining the queue, it was our turn with CBP. See transcript below (bear in mind encounter was less than 3 minutes):
CBP: Can I have your passports, please?
DH: (Hands over our passports)
CBP: What are you here for? (as he tries to locate DH’s visa page)
DH: We are here for vacation and to give birth to our baby.
CBP: Oh cool! Congratulations! How much do you have with you?
DH: About $9k
CBP: Any food stuffs?... Oh I see you declared some.
DH: Yes, Nigerian food stuffs.
CBP: Please place your fingers on the machine (takes our biometrics and stamps us in for 6 months and directs us to luggage area) Enjoy your stay and all the best.
Me: (Chuckling and wishing him well as DH picks up our passports)
With pleasure, I checked to confirm the stamp so what happen to Okon won’t repeat itself. LOL. I remember someone posted here that CBP forgot to stamp her PP after their encounter therefore I had to double check. Anyway, after picking up our bags, an officer stopped us on our way out and directed us to Agric. At Agric, chicken noodles, chicken flavour Knorr (bird flu issue), tubers of yam (pests transfer issue), and one pepper soup spice (can’t remember the local name) were seized. Fortunately, others scaled through - ground egusi, beans, other pepper soup spices, Knorr, ground pepper, poundo, semo, garri, and ground crayfish. At the airport back home, we got a thumbs up from Nigerian Customs and Immigrations during the baggage search because we used Ziplocs to package food items neatly….. *badt gal*
1. Register on a travel fare aggregator website for price alerts on your travel dates to your destination of choice. When the price is at or below your budget, hurry up and book. Confirm the airline baggage policy of the cabin and for infants to enable proper planning. What is applicable to Delta Air Lines may not be to Qatar Airways. We fell into that trap. Watch out for Part 3 (The Return Home) of my story.
2. Proximity to the hospital and OB-GYN’s office (for the regular ante-natal and post-natal visits) is very important. It will save you a lot on transportation, time and stress. I’d advise that you stay in an apartment close to these places. If you plan to stay with relatives/friends who reside far, ensure you do your Cost Vs Benefit analysis before making the decision.
3. You may already know this, nevertheless, I’ll drop it here. Travel light so you can have space and weight allowance should you decide to shop. Additionally, you can travel with an XL foldable duffel bag (without rollers) that weigh almost nothing instead of carrying those weighty luggage despite being empty. Bear in mind that most airlines kick against matted woven bags aka Ghana must go.
4. Last but not the least, is the burden of proof. Ensure you have it ready and neatly arranged for your POE. Having it gives you the confidence to face any form of interrogation if the need arises.
MEANINGS OF ABBREVIATIONS FOR PART 6 NEWBIES
FTM – First Time Moms
PP - Passport
LO – Little One
VO – Visa Officer
OB-GYN – Obstetrician-Gynecologist
IAH – Houston George Bush Int’l Airport
CBP – Customs and Border Protection Officer
DS/DD/DH/DW – Dear Son/Daughter/Husband/Wife
MIL/SIL/BIL/FIL – Mother/Sister/Brother/Father In-law
WHMC – West Houston Medical Center
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|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Osinowoosibanjo(m): 2:24pm On Dec 26, 2017|
Super story. Pls continue
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Hallos: 5:19pm On Dec 26, 2017|
Please what email address did you send the change of intent mail to?
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|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by justwise(m): 5:29pm On Dec 26, 2017|
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|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by anonymousmum: 6:29pm On Dec 26, 2017|
You didn't have to quote the entire post just to ask one question you know. Makes the thread unnecessarily long.
If you will quote, shorten / delete the text in between.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by shawlar(m): 7:52pm On Dec 26, 2017|
The thing tire me sef.... Even a whole justwise quoted the entire post
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|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Osinowoosibanjo(m): 8:13pm On Dec 26, 2017|
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by zoemummy: 10:57pm On Dec 26, 2017|
Hello Justwise, please don't what? Kindly clarify what you are instructing against. Thanks.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by justwise(m): 6:46am On Dec 27, 2017|
Hospital and OB-GYN review
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by goobyparks(f): 7:00am On Dec 27, 2017|
So, our missionary journey came to an end yesterday. Left Norfolk on Christmas day and got to Lagos on boxing day. My return leg with BA was terrible! I'm angry! but glad it's over; baby's ticket was expensive ($432), spent ($109) jst on transport to Baltimore Airport jst to get d damn ticket, even made me wait for over an hour to link it to my ticket. And I thought it was successfully linked only for me to be kept standing for abt 45mins @ Check-in counters at Norfolk Airport and also at JFK to link again on d day of our trip. One was evn blabbing abt me not paying, was just abt getting my mouth ready to blast them wen they found out they made a mistake. No bassinet for my baby in any of the flights! I carried my baby from Virginia to Lagos! We weren't even given a front row seat on any of d flights, was jst squeezing ourselves in & out whenever I want to change baby or whenever my neighbors want to use the restroom. Their jollof rice was the worst ever!
Jst wanted to rant about this first! Will be back with hospital breakdown.
P.S: To avoid delays at security, do not wear body shapers dat have metal strings. Mehn! I was made to pass through the detector 9 times @ JFK!! It wasn't even funny! Ish kept beeping!! They evn suggested I take it off, then I said that wld mean taking my entire cloths off. Even after i passed thru they were still looking at me like I was hiding sth.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by DonDraper: 9:07am On Dec 27, 2017|
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by DonDraper: 10:58am On Dec 27, 2017|
Greetings Ma. You are one of the very few amongst your set still active in this community. @Shawlar, I see you too. Grateful for all your contributions.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by LI(m): 12:11pm On Dec 27, 2017|
I dey hail you oh! Elder stateswoman like no other.
Let me convert the items requested to the same amount in petrol, far more valuable you know.
How the family?
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by LI(m): 12:25pm On Dec 27, 2017|
The income question is a non-issue It's simply your annual income divided by 12, you don't have to earn the same amount every year.
Since you said the lump sum is paid at the start of the year, all you need is have evidence of this payment. Just make sure of the consistency between your application and your interview.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by LI(m): 12:52pm On Dec 27, 2017|
Sorry about your experience. From my understanding, the VO believed you spent $2,300 for all medical services. Of cos this is not so. Sadly her decision to deny you was based on that wrong assumption but unfortunately also, I don't think you did enough to correct her bias.
Take this quote from your post https://www.nairaland.com/3436650/give-birth-usa-cost-procedures/413#63486333 as example,
VO: Can u explain why you paid 2300usd for your medical services?
2300 ws the hospitals price for selfpay patient who are not eligible for insurrance and have to pay 1month ahead EDD.
According to you, the cost to you was $7000. I think you should has insisted.
VO: So you want to use 2300 to pay for health care when you earn 900,000 naira monthly? ( I was confused here cos we were only talking about what I have paid bt had to answer her)
Well, no amount of money is too much for good health if one can afford it and moreso we would also be giving that child the dual citizenship opportunity.
A better was to handle this objection would be to highlight your total budget for this new trip and offer to to show it
Please reapply immediately at a different post if you can. No need to change anything, just let the new VO know
(i) what the previous bill was with evidence that you paid in full
(ii) estimate bill for the new journey
Have cost breakdown for both cases.
I am rooting for you. All the best
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by LI(m): 12:58pm On Dec 27, 2017|
Jenyjay, We are waiting for the remaining part of this story.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Omodadi2: 1:33pm On Dec 27, 2017|
Good day people, it was a horrible holiday for me cos of the denial coupled with the fact that my phone was stolen on my return home on Saturday.
Anyways, planning my new application but I have another burning case:
I applied for my nanny to go with me on this trip as my mum won't be able to go and I have a toddler to this of. However, I chose her interview date considering my drop box application after which I had to change her appointment to 4th January hoping that I would have gotten my visa. Now that I don't have it yet, what can I do? I believe she's not qualified for a visa since I don't have one, pls guide me.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Nobody: 2:18pm On Dec 27, 2017|
Thanks Li. On the issue of consistency between my application and the interview, it's actually my wife that is applying. I have a valid visa. However, the monthly salary I stated in my ds-160 form when I applied is far less than what I earn now. My wife will definitely not be mentioning what i have on my ds-160 form as my monthly income if asked. How do you think we can navigate this?
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by OnJosh1: 2:19pm On Dec 27, 2017|
It's well Sis. Sorry about the initial rejection and the loss of your phone. It will end in praise. I'm not an Expert but I think you should reschedule your Nanny's interview date.
How soon can you get your new interview date? I also believe she's not qualified for a visa yet, so the sooner you can get your new interview date, then you can reschedule hers. Maybe you can even request for expedited interview date for your own appointment.
GOD'S Favour IN JESUS NAME; AMEN
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Nobody: 2:43pm On Dec 27, 2017|
Below is the link for requirements for nannies/domestic staff. Looks like you will need to move her appointment to a date after yours...as the assumption is that the employer already has a visa.
Pls pay attention to the employement contract and the minimum wage requirements for the specific state you'll be visiting.
You can request for an expedited appointment for yourself.
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by adebrave(f): 3:22pm On Dec 27, 2017|
Waowww ... Part 6, glad to be here too. To everyone that has been contributing in one way or the other to this platform , God bless everyone
@justwise, well done for this great job.
@nefertitiram , bless you my dear. Me too don dey here before tsunami era, I remember you and other active members wellaa. I know shall testify one day by Gods grace. Amen
Happy holiday Everyone!!! � xoxo
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by passionantchica: 3:26pm On Dec 27, 2017|
So I am resuming to active duty again, let me also mark register. Last time I was active was in Part 4, well done and thank you to everyone, for keeping the thread alive and moving.
Now doing a triple high jump to reach for my hanging boots
|Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by ogemele(m): 4:24pm On Dec 27, 2017|
Just landed jfk via qatar airways. Coming back to give my Poe story.
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