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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Qei2u: 2:22pm On Sep 01
AkataWoman:
Just build your countries and give birth there. Sheesh.

Right now naija is undergoing total destruction

(boko haram,ritual,kidnapping,police vs soldier killing,bandits,ruga,coza,jamb no score,hospital no drug,bsc no job,el zaky zaky,sowore,senate chop all the money)
Maybe after the total destruction we will start rebuilding but for now all road lead to better pali.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by babytoun: 11:05pm On Sep 01
Does anyone know the full impact of this October 29 amendment on children born in the US by foreign visitors after october 29 ?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Beautyaddy: 11:14pm On Sep 01
babytoun:
Does anyone know the full impact of this October 29 amendment on children born in the US by foreign visitors after october 29 ?

Children born on US soil are still US citizens as long as their parents are not foreign diplomats.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by inizo: 11:17pm On Sep 01
TWoods:


Poor Americans are US citizens who don’t require a visa. It’s not their responsibility to make sure you know the rules. The hospitals are not permitted to ask about your citizenship when offering you care. It’s not their fault that you’ve been exploiting a loophole all along. Besides, it isn’t punishment to deny you a visa, you can have your baby anywhere, your choice.

TWOODS I ACTUALLY SENT A MAIL STATING I WAS COMING IN FROM NIGERIA TO HAVE MY KIDS HENCE I NEEDED A QUOTE FROM THE HOSPITAL.

QUOTE WAS SENT WITH A DISCOUNT. IF THEY ARENT MEANT TO ASK MY NATIONALITY BEFORE ATTENDING TO ME AS YOU STATED WHY DIDNT THEY JUST SEND IN THE EXACT BILL FOR A FORIEGNER .

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Hotstepper(f): 12:11am On Sep 02
I thought there is a place it says non citizens will havr to stay for 6 weeks before they can apply for babys docs


Beautyaddy:


Children born on US soil are still US citizens as long as their parents are not foreign diplomats.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Beautyaddy: 12:43am On Sep 02
Hotstepper:
I thought there is a place it says non citizens will havr to stay for 6 weeks before they can apply for babys docs



Yes, most women after giving birth already do that be default.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by babytoun: 1:08am On Sep 02
Hotstepper:
I thought there is a place it says non citizens will havr to stay for 6 weeks before they can apply for babys docs



There is no part of the document that talks about 6 weeks . The document only tries to differentiate "physical presence" from "residence". and in the examples cited , even a 6 months stay or property ownership in the US does not mean one is resident there.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by babytoun: 1:13am On Sep 02
Beautyaddy:


Children born on US soil are still US citizens as long as their parents are not foreign diplomats.

i dont think this will be automatic after oct 29.

I am not a lawyer but simple logic suggest that this is targeted at those that travel to the US just to give birth.

The 14th Amendment says : All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside.

so what this amendment is trying to clarify is that someone on a temporary visit does not reside in the US hence has failed to meet one of the preconditions for citizenship .

See some highlights of the document below :

[b]Policy Highlights

• Clarifies that temporary visits to the United States do not establish U.S. residence and explains the distinction between residence and physical presence in the United States.

• Explains that USCIS no longer considers children of U.S. government employees and U.S. armed forces members residing outside the United States as “residing in the United States” for purposes of acquiring citizenship under INA 320.3


A U.S. citizen who was born in the United States generally meets the residence requirement as long as he or she can present evidence to demonstrate that his or her mother was not merely transiting through or visiting the United States at the time of his or her birth.9 For example, a long form birth certificate is sufficient evidence if it shows a U.S. address listed as the mother’s residence at the time of the U.S. citizen’s birth.

If a U.S. citizen’s birth certificate indicates that his or her mother’s address was outside of the United States at the time of the birth, USCIS may find that the U.S. citizen does not meet the residence requirement unless the U.S. citizen can prove U.S. residence.
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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Qei2u: 1:45am On Sep 02
You people are ceeating unnecessary panic

This is a first step to modyfying the rules but as of this new drama it does not affect birthright citezenship,it affects ur grand kids if they are not born in the us or if your kids never lived in the usa for 5years of which 2 of those 5 years must be after age 14.

Go to their website and read the head of the organization did an interview and said it does not affect birthright citizenship

To abolish birthright citizenship an amendment or wxecutive order is needed

The new rules affect ur grand kids if they are born outside usa,ur kids didnt school in usa and ao dint live up to 5yra here hope this clarifies d tension!

In fact if you ever get a green card or citizenship you can transfer to your grandkids if ur kids dont meet the criteria ,as long as you have lived in the usa for 5 years

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by babytoun: 7:52am On Sep 02
Qei2u:
You people are ceeating unnecessary panic

This is a first step to modyfying the rules but as of this new drama it does not affect birthright citezenship,it affects ur grand kids if they are not born in the us or if your kids never lived in the usa for 5years of which 2 of those 5 years must be after age 14.

Go to their website and read the head of the organization did an interview and said it does not affect birthright citizenship

To abolish birthright citizenship an amendment or wxecutive order is needed

The new rules affect ur grand kids if they are born outside usa,ur kids didnt school in usa and ao dint live up to 5yra here hope this clarifies d tension!

In fact if you ever get a green card or citizenship you can transfer to your grandkids if ur kids dont meet the criteria ,as long as you have lived in the usa for 5 years

I have read the policy over and over ...I think you are correct ..

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by dialinn: 10:23pm On Sep 02
Qei2u:
You people are ceeating unnecessary panic

This is a first step to modyfying the rules but as of this new drama it does not affect birthright citezenship,it affects ur grand kids if they are not born in the us or if your kids never lived in the usa for 5years of which 2 of those 5 years must be after age 14.

Go to their website and read the head of the organization did an interview and said it does not affect birthright citizenship

To abolish birthright citizenship an amendment or wxecutive order is needed

The new rules affect ur grand kids if they are born outside usa,ur kids didnt school in usa and ao dint live up to 5yra here hope this clarifies d tension!

In fact if you ever get a green card or citizenship you can transfer to your grandkids if ur kids dont meet the criteria ,as long as you have lived in the usa for 5 years

All correct except the bolded.

From a legal position, only an amendment/change passed by Congress can affect the 14th amendment provision on birthright citizenship. It is legally impossible for an executive order to change statutory/constitutional law passed by Congress.

Think about it well, do you think Trump would not have changed birthright citizenship sinceeeeee if he COULD really do so by the simple stroke of his pen? If he did, it would be an exercise in futility as there would be litigation galore and the courts will eventually overrule him.

Even the US Supreme Court (the highest court of the land) has upheld the sanctity of the 14th amendment in the past. If you have time, see and read the locus classicus case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark to understand the sanctity of birthright citizenship in the US.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by imke: 1:11am On Sep 03
Hello All,

Please, could anyone let me know if the Visa on Arrival is still in use for infants travelling to Nigeria from the US.

If it isn't, what is the current process now? Visa or ETC. What is the typical processing time for both?

I would appreciate feedback on this, please.

Thank you.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by babytoun: 1:56am On Sep 03
dialinn:


All correct except the bolded.

From a legal position, only an amendment/change passed by Congress can affect the 14th amendment provision on birthright citizenship. It is legally impossible for an executive order to change statutory/constitutional law passed by Congress.

Think about it well, do you think Trump would not have changed birthright citizenship sinceeeeee if he COULD really do so by the simple stroke of his pen? If he did, it would be an exercise in futility as there would be litigation galore and the courts will eventually overrule him.

Even the US Supreme Court (the highest court of the land) has upheld the sanctity of the 14th amendment in the past. If you have time, see and read the locus classicus case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark to understand the sanctity of birthright citizenship in the US.


But is it true that babies born by visiting mothers must now spend 6 weeks to get citizenship.by birth ?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Vlesparza: 3:54am On Sep 03
babytoun:


But is it true that babies born by visiting mothers must now spend 6 weeks to get citizenship.by birth ?

No

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by dialinn: 5:56am On Sep 03
babytoun:


But is it true that babies born by visiting mothers must now spend 6 weeks to get citizenship.by birth ?


Capital NO!

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by asake85(f): 6:37am On Sep 03
Hello all,

Please what is POE like this days? JFK to be precise. What questions should one expect?

Thank you
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by folmus: 8:51am On Sep 03
asake85:
Hello all,

Please what is POE like this days? JFK to be precise. What questions should one expect?

Thank you

POE remains the same. Just prepare for why you are there with evidence e.g hosp, doc , how long and your financial evidence. etc

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by veeveezu: 9:00pm On Sep 04
Hello read here that VOA had been stopped, went ahead to get ETC for my baby. I arrived 3 weeks ago to discover VOA is still being issued at the airport. I was so upset.

Hello All,

Please, could anyone let me know if the Visa on Arrival is still in use for infants travelling to Nigeria from the US.

If it isn't, what is the current process now? Visa or ETC. What is the typical processing time for both?

I would appreciate feedback on this, please.

Thank you.[/quote]
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Motherof1: 1:16am On Sep 06
Well I feel all these should be addressed to the hospitals, because. I was told how much it all cost, before birth and before they even got my address. Like I paid before I gave birth.


TWoods:


The VO was right. If the average American paid $6400 for childbirth, healthcare costs would not be the massive problem it is today. My wife got a less than 30 minute non invasive procedure that did not require her to be anaesthesized two weeks ago, it cost us over $2100.

The truth is you’re paying costs usually reserved for the poor US citizens. That’s why she asked for the contact address you claimed when your son was born.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by imke: 3:56am On Sep 06
Thanks a lot for the feedback @veeveezu.

I'll go ahead and apply for the VOA.

veeveezu:
Hello read here that VOA had been stopped, went ahead to get ETC for my baby. I arrived 3 weeks ago to discover VOA is still being issued at the airport. I was so upset.

Hello All,

Please, could anyone let me know if the Visa on Arrival is still in use for infants travelling to Nigeria from the US.

If it isn't, what is the current process now? Visa or ETC. What is the typical processing time for both?

I would appreciate feedback on this, please.

Thank you.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Nersh: 11:40am On Sep 06
It is no longer in use for infants.
veeveezu:
Hello read here that VOA had been stopped, went ahead to get ETC for my baby. I arrived 3 weeks ago to discover VOA is still being issued at the airport. I was so upset.

Hello All,

Please, could anyone let me know if the Visa on Arrival is still in use for infants travelling to Nigeria from the US.

If it isn't, what is the current process now? Visa or ETC. What is the typical processing time for both?

I would appreciate feedback on this, please.

Thank you.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by chibertha(f): 2:27pm On Sep 06
You are correct

Qei2u:
You people are ceeating unnecessary panic

This is a first step to modyfying the rules but as of this new drama it does not affect birthright citezenship,it affects ur grand kids if they are not born in the us or if your kids never lived in the usa for 5years of which 2 of those 5 years must be after age 14.

Go to their website and read the head of the organization did an interview and said it does not affect birthright citizenship

To abolish birthright citizenship an amendment or wxecutive order is needed

The new rules affect ur grand kids if they are born outside usa,ur kids didnt school in usa and ao dint live up to 5yra here hope this clarifies d tension!

In fact if you ever get a green card or citizenship you can transfer to your grandkids if ur kids dont meet the criteria ,as long as you have lived in the usa for 5 years
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by chibertha(f): 2:40pm On Sep 06
I just got off the phone with Nigerian immigration at 2.37pm
VOA for infants is still in place you can call also to confirm by calling their official line 08119753844

But when I tried to apply on the website I got this see attached screenshot
Dear Valued customer
Non-African applicants
under the age of 18 years
are not allowed for
visa on arrival under the business category.
Are you over 18?

veeveezu:
Hello read here that VOA had been stopped, went ahead to get ETC for my baby. I arrived 3 weeks ago to discover VOA is still being issued at the airport. I was so upset.

Hello All,

Please, could anyone let me know if the Visa on Arrival is still in use for infants travelling to Nigeria from the US.

If it isn't, what is the current process now? Visa or ETC. What is the typical processing time for both?

I would appreciate feedback on this, please.

Thank you.

Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Japsylee: 10:32pm On Sep 06
Qei2u:
Aamey 15

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/apply-renew-passport/under-16.html

1) passport If father is around
Get birth cert preferably 2 copies
Snap babys passport photo with white background
Fill ds-11 form leave notarized spaces free
Calculate the cost of passport some passport offices take postal order some u can pay with card
You will have the form notarized by a notary public in the presence of u,hubby and baby and it costs about $20-$50
Take it with ur passport datapages,pix,birth cert of social security is out fill on ds11 form if not fill 000000
Go to passport agency and apply i prefer to expedite d passport application and expedite the return mail service

If dad is not available

https://ng.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/notaries-public/

Follow d link for lagos or abuja its notary seevices not passsport services

Dad should fill ds3053 form and leave relevant pages blank
Book appointment at usa consulate for natary service
Take $50 in naira along
His and ur data page and front of passport
(Am not sure if dad needs a birthcert to do this one which is where am confused cos it states on d birth cert you cant photocopy it)
He will dhl this form take with other requirements to passport agency usually a library or post office.

http://www.nigeriaembassyusa.org/index.php?page=passports

I only know process for naija passport not visa
Fill form online
Preregister your atm card with innovate 1(1 month bank statement scanned on same page with atm card block the middle 8 digits also scan your data page to them ,they reply is 24hrs)
And then pay
You will get interview date ,appear on that day with letter of consent cosigned by both parents ,hubby can do it and send then you sign ur part
They will tell you to come back anoda day for pick up,atlanta does same day pick up

Pls i need more info on documents req for notary appt if you find out

I didn't pay a dime for notary public
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by inizo: 11:07pm On Sep 07
Hi narialanders how do I track my child's birth certificate.
Child was born in Houston tx
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Sweetuzy01: 12:16am On Sep 08
Pls how can a grand parent transfer citizenship to the grandkids after staying 5 years based on the new law?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Beautyaddy: 12:44am On Sep 08
Sweetuzy01:
Pls how can a grand parent transfer citizenship to the grandkids after staying 5 years based on the new law?

There is no such US Immigration law for a grand parent to petition for grand kids.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by chibertha(f): 7:47am On Sep 08
If it's up to 4 days and your sure hospital has sent the information over just go to the office and get it.

inizo:
Hi narialanders how do I track my child's birth certificate.
Child was born in Houston tx
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by dolaponike12: 6:22pm On Sep 08
Please, I need these details too..

peace914:
Not sure if I can post here oo. Email me

quote author=courage54 post=70023901]

Thanks for your response. I don't mind using WHMC too if I can get a doctor's appointment from there. Kindly assist.


Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by Qei2u: 10:54pm On Sep 08
Beautyaddy:


There is no such US Immigration law for a grand parent to petition for grand kids.

When you don’t know and you will not allow those who know teach you thats uscis website look at the marked section ,go to dr google and learn!

Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by imke: 1:14am On Sep 10
Thank you. I'll give them a call.

I also saw the information on your attached screenshot on the NIS website.

Did the person you spoke with, give you any information as to how to proceed? Please let me know.

Thanks again.

chibertha:
I just got off the phone with Nigerian immigration at 2.37pm
VOA for infants is still in place you can call also to confirm by calling their official line 08119753844

But when I tried to apply on the website I got this see attached screenshot
Dear Valued customer
Non-African applicants
under the age of 18 years
are not allowed for
visa on arrival under the business category.
Are you over 18?

Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 6 by dolaponike12: 6:25am On Sep 10
Ameera2018:


Hi i just sent you a PM too..

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