A detailed and relatively unbiased look at Mu'tazila school of thought in early Islam.

http://www.mutazila.net/

The Mut'azila were champions of rationality, logic or reason for interpretation of Qur'anic texts in Muslim history. Unlike the mainstream traditional schools, the Mut'azila maintain that reason and revelation have to complement each other and revelation cannot go contrary to reason if it is truly divine.

The Mu'tazila reigned from the late Ummayad era to early Abbasid era after which they were ousted out by the traditionalists. By the 11th to 12th century the Mut'azila voices have become nonexistent and text were scarce. Today, existing documents on Mu'tazila are written by traditionalist and do not offer accurate and unbias representation of the Mu'tazila.

In this webpage I have cited above, you may read about:

Part one

Mu'tazila use of reasoning

Mu'tazila history

Dominance of Ash'arism

The Ash'arite view

Response from Mu'tazili, 'Abd al-Jabbar

Mu'tazila reasoning & doctrine

God in relation to reason & moral laws

Part two

Debates over free will & predestination

Meaning of qadar – capacity or determinism

Relevant verses from the Qur'an

Interpreting meaning by overall context

Example of Mu'tazila logic

Guide us on the straight way


Part three

Mis-representation of the Mu'tazila

Sunni-Ash'ari 'Divine Decree'

The meaning of 'God Wills'

Ideas about God's power and will

How important is prayer?

Contradictory beliefs

Mistakes in life: the bad and stupid

Life - an undetermined work in progress

usermane:
A detailed and relatively unbiased look at Mu'tazila school of thought in early Islam.

http://www.mutazila.net/

The Mut'azila were champions of rationality, logic or reason for interpretation of Qur'anic texts in Muslim history. Unlike the mainstream traditional schools, the Mut'azila maintain that reason and revelation have to complement each other and revelation cannot go contrary to reason if it is truly divine.

The Mu'tazila reigned from the late Ummayad era to early Abbasid era after which they were ousted out by the traditionalists. By the 11th to 12th century the Mut'azila voices have become nonexistent and text were scarce. Today, existing documents on Mu'tazila are written by traditionalist and do not offer accurate and unbias representation of the Mu'tazila.

In this webpage I have cited above, you may read about:

Part one

Mu'tazila use of reasoning

Mu'tazila history

Dominance of Ash'arism

The Ash'arite view

Response from Mu'tazili, 'Abd al-Jabbar

Mu'tazila reasoning & doctrine

God in relation to reason & moral laws

Part two

Debates over free will & predestination

Meaning of qadar – capacity or determinism

Relevant verses from the Qur'an

Interpreting meaning by overall context

Example of Mu'tazila logic

Guide us on the straight way


Part three

Mis-representation of the Mu'tazila

Sunni-Ash'ari 'Divine Decree'

The meaning of 'God Wills'

Ideas about God's power and will

How important is prayer?

Contradictory beliefs

Mistakes in life: the bad and stupid

Life - an undetermined work in progress

We know you're just hiding under Islam, we surely know your mission.

Sura 61 - Ayat 8

يُرِيدُونَ لِيُطْفِــُٔواْ نُورَ ٱللَّهِ بِأَفْوَٲهِهِمْ وَٱللَّهُ مُتِمُّ نُورِهِۦ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ ٱلْكَـٰفِرُونَ

They wish to put out Allah’s light with their mouths, whereas Allah will perfect His light even if the disbelievers get annoyed.

Mutazillah school of thought cannot last as its not the truth . According to the Qur'an, falsehood never lasts : Allah says

Ar-Ra'd 13:17

أَنزَلَ مِنَ ٱلسَّمَآءِ مَآءً فَسَالَتْ أَوْدِيَةٌۢ بِقَدَرِهَا فَٱحْتَمَلَ ٱلسَّيْلُ زَبَدًا رَّابِيًاۚ وَمِمَّا يُوقِدُونَ عَلَيْهِ فِى ٱلنَّارِ ٱبْتِغَآءَ حِلْيَةٍ أَوْ مَتَٰعٍ زَبَدٌ مِّثْلُهُۥۚ كَذَٰلِكَ يَضْرِبُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْحَقَّ وَٱلْبَٰطِلَۚ فَأَمَّا ٱلزَّبَدُ فَيَذْهَبُ جُفَآءًۖ وَأَمَّا مَا يَنفَعُ ٱلنَّاسَ فَيَمْكُثُ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِۚ كَذَٰلِكَ يَضْرِبُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْأَمْثَالَ

He sends down from the sky, rain, and valleys flow according to their capacity, and the torrent carries a rising foam. And from that [ore] which they heat in the fire, desiring adornments and utensils, is a foam like it. Thus Allah presents [the example of] truth and falsehood. As for the foam, it vanishes, [being] cast off; but as for that which benefits the people, it remains on the earth. Thus does Allah present examples.

Fundamentalist:
Mutazillah school of thought cannot last as its not the truth . According to the Qur'an, falsehood never lasts : Allah says

Ar-Ra'd 13:17

أَنزَلَ مِنَ ٱلسَّمَآءِ مَآءً فَسَالَتْ أَوْدِيَةٌۢ بِقَدَرِهَا فَٱحْتَمَلَ ٱلسَّيْلُ زَبَدًا رَّابِيًاۚ وَمِمَّا يُوقِدُونَ عَلَيْهِ فِى ٱلنَّارِ ٱبْتِغَآءَ حِلْيَةٍ أَوْ مَتَٰعٍ زَبَدٌ مِّثْلُهُۥۚ كَذَٰلِكَ يَضْرِبُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْحَقَّ وَٱلْبَٰطِلَۚ فَأَمَّا ٱلزَّبَدُ فَيَذْهَبُ جُفَآءًۖ وَأَمَّا مَا يَنفَعُ ٱلنَّاسَ فَيَمْكُثُ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِۚ كَذَٰلِكَ يَضْرِبُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْأَمْثَالَ

He sends down from the sky, rain, and valleys flow according to their capacity, and the torrent carries a rising foam. And from that [ore] which they heat in the fire, desiring adornments and utensils, is a foam like it. Thus Allah presents [the example of] truth and falsehood. As for the foam, it vanishes, [being] cast off; but as for that which benefits the people, it remains on the earth. Thus does Allah present examples.

You misinterpreted that verse. We both know from human history that truth does not always last and that is why God repeatedly sent messengers to earth. The truth is apparent, but that doesn't mean even half of the people recognize it. I think you can see how at least 95% of Christian rejected the doctrine of unity for the doctrine of trinity. If you think the Muslim community is incapable of straying off the true path, you merely live in fool's paradise.

Anyway, I think the Mu'tazila have really interesting ideas. And I think, this writing will help anyone who is disillusioned with the traditionalist view of God or predestination.

usermane:


You misinterpreted that verse. We both know from human history that truth does not always last and that is why God repeatedly sent messengers to earth. The truth is apparent, but that doesn't mean even half of the people recognize it. I think you can see how at least 95% of Christian rejected the doctrine of unity for the doctrine of trinity. If you think the Muslim community is incapable of straying off the true path, you merely live in fool's paradise.

Anyway, I think the Mu'tazila have really interesting ideas. And I think , this writing will help anyone who is disillusioned with the traditionalist view of God or predestination.

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Keep your virus to yourself and don't infect us with

This days one should be careful of the post one reads and follows. Misguidance everywhere. May Allah guide us away from this OP and his likes.

If only we are in a sharia country this myopic thing would definetly serve some term in jail
maybe that will help him regain his senses