butterflyl1on:


So far all you have posted have been shown not to be contradictions so what MORE contradictions are you still referring to?

butterflyl1on:


So far all you have posted have been shown not to be contradictions so what MORE contradictions are you still referring to?

Humanistme:


of course in your delusions they are not contradictions. oya answer this bible quiz


Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?

(a)Jacob (b)Heli (c) butterflyl1on (d)his parents were gay so he had two dads (e)all of the above

clues to the answer below


Mathew 1:16

16and Jacob the father of s Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
17 So all the generations from Abraham


Luke 3:23

New International Version (NIV)
Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,
Luke 3:23 in all English translations 23
the son of Heli,

OkCornel:


Have you considered if Jacob and Heli are two different names for one and the same person?

I'm sure you've got more than one name at the very least...

Humanistme:


of course in your delusions they are not contradictions. oya answer this bible quiz


Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?

(a)Jacob (b)Heli (c) butterflyl1on (d)his parents were gay so he had two dads (e)all of the above

clues to the answer below


Mathew 1:16

16and Jacob the father of s Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
17 So all the generations from Abraham


Luke 3:23

New International Version (NIV)
Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,
the son of Heli,

Aashik:

Well Acts 1:18 said judas didnt hang himself.

After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)

danvon:
That was the genealogy of Mary

OkCornel:


Have you considered if Jacob and Heli are two different names for one and the same person?

I'm sure you've got more than one name at the very least...

Humanistme:


is it your brain or the spirit of truth that told you this.?

Humanistme:


of course in your delusions they are not contradictions. oya answer this bible quiz


Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?

(a)Jacob (b)Heli (c) butterflyl1on (d)his parents were gay so he had two dads (e)all of the above

clues to the answer below


Mathew 1:16

16and Jacob the father of s Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
17 So all the generations from Abraham


Luke 3:23

New International Version (NIV)
Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,
Luke 3:23 in all English translations 23
the son of Heli,

Humanistme:


mega contradiction oya emmanystone and butterflyl1on come and wiggle out of this one

butterflyl1on:



Joseph was not the natural father to Jesus though so supposed by the Jews, Joseph being indeed his legal father due to being married to mary when Jesus was born.

Joseph was the son of Jacob and Heli was considered a father in-law from the lineage of Mary. OkCornel already adviced you to always refer to the original before making your blunders.

Joseph was clearly the son of Jacob according to Matthew 1:16, so Luke 3:23 should be understood to mean “son-in-law of Heli.”

So the genealogy of Christ in Luke is actually the genealogy of Mary, while Matthew gives that of Joseph. Actually the word "son” is not in the original, so it would be legitimate to supply either “son” or “son-in-law” in this context. Since Matthew and Luke clearly have very similar content, it is certain that neither one could unknowingly include such a flagrant apparent mistake as the wrong genealogy in his record.

Based on this, the two genealogies show that both parents were descendants of David

1) Joseph through Solomon (Matthew 1:7-15), thus inheriting the legal right to the throne of David

2) Mary through Nathan (Luke 3:23-31), her line thus carrying the seed of David, since Solomon’s line had been refused the throne because of Jechoniah’s sin

butterflyl1on:

Nothing to wiggle. I already destroyed that.

butterflyl1on:


You actually want to convince yourself that you are some kind of science student abi?

If you were then you should have understood what I posted and not commented ignorantly.

Translate this that I posted

OkCornel:
Please permit me to add this contradiction...

I'm not one to take sides...I only pitch my tent with the Truth...

Acts 9 v 4-7

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying to him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is [d]hard for thee to kick against pricks.

6 He then both trembling and astonied, said, Lord, what wilt thou that I do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou shalt do.

7 The men also which journeyed with him, stood amazed, hearing his voice, but seeing no man.


Acts 22 v 7-9

7 So I fell unto the earth, and heard a voice, saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

8 Then I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said to me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

9 Moreover they that were with me, saw indeed a light and were afraid: but they heard not the voice of him that spake unto me.


This is my problem with clerical errors leading up to the English Bible as we know today. I quoted this from 1599 Geneva translation...

Chapter 9 v 7 states one thing, Chapter 22 v 9 states another thing....or perhaps I'm getting it wrong...

Humanistme:



link to the source that said heli is the father inlaw

because the infallible perfect bible said father

Humanistme:



what verse? where is your scriptural back up

dalaman:


I don't believe you. Show me the link that says epigenetic an change skin colour, body markings but not the physical structure itself. Pls show me.

Humanistme:


link?

butterflyl1on:


You are getting it wrong.

The men heard Saul speaking to someone but could not see the person or hear what Saul was hearing.

The second one said they saw a light (yet did not see any man) nor hear what Saul was hearing. Surely the light they saw is different from seeing A MAN.

Humanistme:



link to the source that said heli is the father inlaw

because the infallible perfect bible said father

butterflyl1on:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bioproject/362574

dalaman:


Teacher don't teach me nonsense. Nothing there clearly agrees with what you stated.

This provides one of the first examples of environmentally-driven differences in epigenetics that associates with adaptive [b]phenotypic divergence.[/b] Overall design: To examine the association between this adaptive divergence and epigenetic differences, we sampled at least 30 individuals from a “river” site characterized by constantly fast water current speeds due to input from underground springs

butterflyl1on:


I already gave you the scripture link to their individual genealogies why not take a look for yourself.

danvon:
"Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,"
Luke:3:24

"And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;"
Matthew:1:15

Is there any similarities they used Joseph's name but it was the genealogy of Mary

Humanistme:


the scriptures as in the bible genealogy is contradictory. I asked for other sources whether Hebrew or jewish writings which mentioned heli was mary's father and not Joseph's father.

OkCornel:


Does the Bible contain everything on Jewish history?

butterflyl1on:




I thought you could easily pick out contradictions so how you not follow a simple genealogy? The genealogy is straight forward and not contradictory.

The original text did not include SON and simply said JOSEPH OF HELI. Nothing like Son there but Mathew clearly said JOSEPH SON OF JACOB.

Humanistme:


what version of the lies is the original text? link pls

king James version
Luke 3:23-38 King James Version (KJV)
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of

butterflyl1on:


So to you King James is the original text? Lmao

Humanistme:


what version of the lies is the original text? link pls

king James version
Luke 3:23-38 King James Version (KJV)
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of