Alex80s:
Why not procure brand new aircrafts as a government, at least with the recovered loots. They want to hijack these 1980's planes. 'Rwandan Airlines are brand aircrafts' a country ravaged by war and genocide... Ethiopia, Kenya and Egyptian Airlines have Airlines that fly International.

Does that even make sense?? When u have two airlines under fg control, then u abandon both to go and waste funds u dont have on new aircrafts What then happens to education, roads, rail, agriculture, health and the hundreds of projects on ground that fg is struggling to complete

brownhawk:
what is this child of hate saying

Why start what they cannot finish?

Kobicove:
The FG should forget this national carrier idea once and for all... It's an avenue for people to loot the government!

you forgot the most important thing,they will not hesitate to fulanize the national carrier

AZeD1:

Over 200 hundred countries in the world and you name six?

British Airways is a private Airline, Qatar and Emirates are run by peeps with way more money than Nigeria. The remaining 3 have been in existence since way back, we had our opportunity and we ruined it.

We have more pressing need than a national airline. If the private companies cannot survive in this clime, what hope does a government run business have?

The question is not whether a national air carrier is required, it how to evolve a management solution and busness model such that continuity and profitability are sustained.

To not have National Air carrier is hurting our economy and the major reason most airlines charge way too much on return flight from Nigeria instead of the other way around.

The presence of no competition means some Air Bilateral Agreement signed with most countries national airlines are one sided and profit other countries only.

Lastly, it is a thing of pride to see your national airline outside our country.

So as long as the business model, continuity/profitability is perfected, then I do no see why not.


It is an open sky, let the competition begin, so market demand and supply will solely determine flight prices and not the current situation where flight prices are fixed unilaterally due to lack of competition.

.... From a reliable source a national carrier will come to light before 2019.
Infact, there are 22 new aircrafts on ground right now for it.... If you know, you know.

We are in 2018 not the 70's , 80's or the 90's. A lot of governments have divested from the airline business. Governments of Developed countries do not run airlines today.

British Airways if now private, Air France is now private, KLM is now private, e.t.c.

It is more efficient for the government to provide enabling environment for the private airlines operating in Nigeria to thrive. With our population and our travelling history, Airlines based in Nigeria can become the dominant hubs/brands of aviation on this continent if they are well managed.

This is 2018, for a country as poor/under-developed as we are; we do not need A National Airline, a National Shipping Line or a presidential fleet.

All these are relics of the last 70 years. The world has moved on.

HeroicMeastro:

So any good move by the country has suddenly become campaign? Something is wrong with your mentality.
Better accept with good faith and remember that leadership comes from God alone.

. Did you suddenly wake up from your sleep? What happened to the presidential aircrafts that your president said he will turn to national carrier during his campaign or has your old age failed you that you cannot remember?

isnovic:


The question is not whether a national air carrier is required, it how to evolve a management solution and busness model such that continuity and profitability are sustained.

To not have National Air carrier is hurting our economy and the major reason most airlines charge way too much on return flight from Nigeria instead of the other way around.

The presence of no competition means some Air Bilateral Agreement signed with most countries national airlines are one sided and profit other countries only.

Lastly, it is a thing of pride to see your national airline outside our country.

So as long as the business model, continuity/profitability is perfected, then I do no see why not.


It is an open sky, let the competition begin, so market demand and supply will solely determine flight prices and not the current situation where flight prices are fixed unilaterally due to lack of competition.

I hope you realise that the bi-lateral agreements with Britain are operated by BA/Virgin Atlantic (which are private airlines and NOT National Carriers).

isnovic:


The question is not whether a national air carrier is required, it how to evolve a management solution and busness model such that continuity and profitability are sustained.

To not have National Air carrier is hurting our economy and the major reason most airlines charge way too much on return flight from Nigeria instead of the other way around.

The presence of no competition means some Air Bilateral Agreement signed with most countries national airlines are one sided and profit other countries only.

Lastly, it is a thing of pride to see your national airline outside our country.

So as long as the business model, continuity/profitability is perfected, then I do no see why not.


It is an open sky, let the competition begin, so market demand and supply will solely determine flight prices and not the current situation where flight prices are fixed unilaterally due to lack of competition.

1) You don't need a national carrier for bilateral agreements, all you need are home grown airlines.

2) There's no pride in having a national carrier when you country boasts of the largest number of poor people in the world.

people are saying focus on refinery, there is no need for that again Dangote is building one, though it is owned privately, but it will solve Nigeria problem far better than Nigeria building one since the govt is not capable of running things very well. unless you want them to embezzle the money again, they have failed on that.

conversion of arik air is okay since it is in the hand of Amcon, just to invest in it to turn it around to become publicly owned, is better to build on that platform rather than starting afresh, am sure we are not financially buoyant for that now of building a new one.

concerning Air peace, it is owned privately, you think if the government want to buy they would sell, it is big NO, unless the purchase consideration is mouth watering, they won't sell, rather than buying at high figure, Arik only need few money to bring it up to standard.

Nwaohafia1:


Why start what they cannot finish?

this will be joint business unlike the first

Nkemakonam62:
Despite the process currently going on to create a national carrier, Akelicious has learnt that the federal government still hopes to establish the new airline on the foundation already laid by Arik Air with technical support from the maintenance section of Aero Contractors.

According to informed source from the industry, it would be a lot easier to build the national airline on the operations of Arik Air, which is currently under the management of Asset Management Corporation of Nigeria (AMCON) along with Aero Contractors than to establish an entirely new airline.


The source said that establishing a new airline from the scratch would take a longer time and might not be realised before the termination of the current administration.

The federal government early last year established transaction advisers for a new national carrier and also for the concession of the nation’s major airports.

Akelicious also learnt that with the advancement made by Aero Contractors in establishing a maintenance facility for Boeing B737 classics and working on upgrading to conducting maintenance on New General Boeing B737 aircraft types, which is the aircraft largely in the fleet of Arik Air, it would be easy to marry the two airlines and form the basis for the establishment of a national carrier.

Although it is not yet confirmed by the Minister of State, Aviation, Senator Hadi Sirika, but Akelicious learnt that the federal government may work with Qatar Airways as core investor for the new national airline and if it goes as planned, the Middle East airline would supply the new carrier most of its large-body aircraft to commence operations to international destinations.

However, many airline owners currently in operation are not positively disposed to Nigeria establishing a national carrier because they believe government would favour it against them and this would drastically affect the market, as most of the passenger traffic would be mopped by the new airline, which would enjoy government’s support with waiver in charges and many other favorable considerations.

Akelicious also learnt that the owners of Aero and Arik, which are currently under the management of AMCON, have muted that they would sue the federal government if their interests are not met in the plan to establish a national carrier.

Also AMCON may not be disposed to incorporating Arik Air and Aero into the national carrier project because the Corporation is disposed to recovering its huge funds sunk in the two airlines and there would be no guarantee that these funds would be recovered when the two airlines metamorphose to a national carrier with a core investor and private sector driven management and ownership with little government stake, as enunciated by Sirika.

AMCON had earlier indicated that its management had severally turned down the request to use the two airlines as national carrier, arguing that the debt overhang in the airlines would not make such start up feasible because this means that the new airline would be laden with debts at inception.

Besides, AMCON said that it was more interested in recouping the whooping funds projected to between N16 to N20 billion expended on Aero and about N190 billion on Arik to save them from sinking and to sustain their operation.
Industry consultant and CEO of Belujane Konsult, Chris Aligbe, who is fully in support of establishing a national carrier, said that to a large extent, the federal government has been very transparent in the process of establishing a national carrier; unlike in the past when negotiations were done under the table.

On the adoption of Aero and Arik Air, Aligbe said the federal government cannot use the airlines without involving their owners, so if they sue government it might obstruct the plan to establish the national airline or delay its emergence.

On the opposition of the current domestic airlines to a national carrier, Aligbe said that he does not think that the airlines would have the locus to go to court and stand down the plan for a national carrier; rather, they could seek that whatever privileges given to the new national airline should be extended to them.
“They can go to court and seek for equal privileges because favouring one airline against others will be anti-competition,” Aligbe said.

http://www.akelicious.com/2018/03/fg-still-eyes-arik-aero-as-fulcrum-for.html

Nigerian politicians initiating gigantic projects that will not see the light of the day. Lets make a head count of how they have destroyed this country with corruption and sinking the nation further into debts it may not be able to repay irrespective of their gender,race, tribe or affiliation

1} Nigeria Airways- Destroyed by the Military regimes and one of the people who destroyed it then under the IBB regime, is in PMB's cabinet and appears as the voice of aviation on television good morning Nigeria. It employed over one hundred thousand people directly and indirectly during its hey days.

2} The steel companies{ Ajaokuta, Aladja, Katsina,etc} A sum of USD $30 billion has been spent since inception and completion of these projects over three decades ago and they are yet to take off. The combined steel plants that have the capacity to employ over two million people directly and indirectly if these projects are allowed to take off. When the indians came and stole it dry. It is still funny to note that the same Indians, Global Infrastrucure, who were sent out by the Belgian Government some years ago and also by the Yaradua Government, have found their way back to"manage" it.

3.} The textile industry: This was the largest employer of labour in its hey days. It employed over 500,000 directly and indirectly and had its products exported to the West, Central and North African regions until the 1990's when economic policy reversal and the invitation of the Indians and Asians who eventually sent it to an early grave.

It will take the whole year to list these moribund industries including those like NNPC which is under producing.

So before anyone of these politicians say something, someone, a fellow politician, has said it before.

AZeD1:

1) You don't need a national carrier for bilateral agreements, all you need are home grown airlines.

2) There's no pride in having a national carrier when you country boasts of the largest number of poor people in the world.

Nigeria has the largest number of poor people in the world but boasts of one of the countries having the largest number of people owning private jets. Even GEJ once boasted that Nigeria is not a poor country because there are many people who own private jets in Nigeria. Honestly, I don't see any hope for the ordinary Nigerians unless they take the bull by the horn and decide to turn things around through a revolution. Nigeria has become a country ruled by cabals and mafias whose only desire is to share the national wealth among their families and linage so that the wealth only revolves within their family circles. This trend needs to be reversed ASAP because the more it's left to continue, we only allow the number of the extremely rich and wealthy to increase. The more their number increase, the more difficult it becomes to change the status quo because they control the factors of production and make the decisions, which are never for the benefit of the ordinary person but for themselves. This will keep the ordinary person in perpetual bondage and slavery. This is a serious and ominous situation.

Over 80% airlines in the world are govt owned National carriers. Also fact check, none of the Gulf carriers run profitably. Their objective is to bring people to dubai, Abu Dhabi, doha to boost tourism. The gulf carriers are managed by brits.

Check to see how much these airlines make and repatriate out of nigeria every month. Business is soooo goood that emirates operates 3 daily service out of nigeria, Ethiopian operates 3 daily service out of nigeria-all using the biggest twin engine jet in the market today-B773er. Each has a passenger capacity of 350. Do the math: 350x6x450000(ticket fare)=N945m per month for just these 2 airlines. Imagine if these monies flowed into naija on a monthly basis? Check the value chain: fuel supply, hotel accommodations, office accommodation, meals on the flight and other suplies, flight crew, cabin crew, mintenance, groun crew and many more will feel the impact of these monthly repatriation. If we are serious about progress then we should start plugging these holes that drain our economy.

AZeD1:

Over 200 hundred countries in the world and you name six?

British Airways is a private Airline, Qatar and Emirates are run by peeps with way more money than Nigeria. The remaining 3 have been in existence since way back, we had our opportunity and we ruined it.

We have more pressing need than a national airline. If the private companies cannot survive in this clime, what hope does a government run business have?

fleetfeet:
Over 80% airlines in the world are govt owned National carriers. Also fact check, none of the Gulf carriers run profitably. Their objective is to bring people to dubai, Abu Dhabi, doha to boost tourism. The gulf carriers are managed by brits.

Check to see how much these airlines make and repatriate out of nigeria every month. Business is soooo goood that emirates operates 3 daily service out of nigeria, Ethiopian operates 3 daily service out of nigeria-all using the biggest twin engine jet in the market today-B773er. Each has a passenger capacity of 350. Do the math: 350x6x450000(ticket fare)=N945m per month for just these 2 airlines. Imagine if these monies flowed into naija on a monthly basis? Check the value chain: fuel supply, hotel accommodations, office accommodation, meals on the flight and other suplies, flight crew, cabin crew, mintenance, groun crew and many more will feel the impact of these monthly repatriation. If we are serious about progress then we should start plugging these holes that drain our economy.

If we are serious about progress we will stop our government from owning business.

Most of you have forgotten there was Nigeria Airways and it crashed and burned.
As a country, can you say we have dealt with issues that brought about the collapse of Nigerian Airways?

What's wrong in the government making the business environment conducive for the private airlines we currently have?

midastouch:


I hope you realise that the bi-lateral agreements with Britain are operated by BA/Virgin Atlantic (which are private airlines and NOT National Carriers).

It still does not exclude the fact that BA is UK National Airline.

A good model where it is privately driven like BA is what we seek.

You mean, a privately owned home grown airline to be used for Bilateral Agreements? This is okay but will put the fate of over 200 million and those in diaspora to constant chest beating and profiteering intent of the owner.

On the poor countries not needing an airline, men you are wrong here.

If the airline is the only shining light in checkered history of the nation, like Sri Lanka Airways, Ethiopian Airways and many others....then it is one thing worth celebrating.

Do not throw the baby with the bath water.

The idea to merge Arik and Aero is a laudable one, provided that the FG won't be involved in the day to day running of the airline.

This is the reason why we are all screaming #NotNationalAirline.

Let's fix our aviation industry. Not invest in a failed experiment in the name of National pride.

midastouch:
We are in 2018 not the 70's , 80's or the 90's. A lot of governments have divested from the airline business. Governments of Developed countries do not run airlines today.

British Airways if now private, Air France is now private, KLM is now private, e.t.c.

It is more efficient for the government to provide enabling environment for the private airlines operating in Nigeria to thrive. With our population and our travelling history, Airlines based in Nigeria can become the dominant hubs/brands of aviation on this continent if they are well managed.

This is 2018, for a country as poor/under-developed as we are; we do not need A National Airline, a National Shipping Line or a presidential fleet.

All these are relics of the last 70 years. The world has moved on.