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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mizwisdom(f): 5:30am On Aug 17
theamerican:
The people I pity the most here are the creative minds that have no clue how making full use of their potentials can liberate them forever. See intelligent people slaving away for employers and even having to beg for salaries to be paid. How can someone work for months, not get paid and nothing is done? It baffles me.

You'll see job advert, asking for you to have crazy qualifications and years of experience and they'll offer you 50k Naira a month lmao. You'll even hear people saying "if you don't take it, others will". They've already accepted stupid practices.


Mediocrity has become the norm. The day you move to a reasonable country and you take a look at the rights you have as a human being and how strictly these things are enforced, that's the day you'll know you're wasting your life away defending mediocrity and absolute BS in Nigeria.

Rich man will go to barracks, bring 3 soldiers to beat the crap out of you because you hit his car on the road and nothing you can do about it. Ah! Come and try it here lol.

I've been a silent reader, laughing at the passion u all have for and against your countries. This is a topic close to the heart of many. People want to know what living abroad feels like compared to Nig.(try youtube) But the comparisons here are not accurate. These are the worst case scenarios in Nigeria, what's the worst case scenario in America? Who watches judge Judy? people be suing others for $20 sometimes it's crazy. Back to topic, Nigerians this is how u compare things to be on the fair side. What's Trump's policy on racial integration, I heard America is more divided now than before, here Buhari is not paying much attention to federal character as he should, that's one of the reasons people are angry, same way minorities are angry with Trump. How has this affected daily living among minorities?
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by theamerican(f): 10:46am On Aug 17
Mizwisdom:


I've been a silent reader, laughing at the passion u all have for and against your countries. This is a topic close to the heart of many. People want to know what living abroad feels like compared to Nig.(try youtube) But the comparisons here are not accurate. These are the worst case scenarios in Nigeria, what's the worst case scenario in America? Who watches judge Judy? people be suing others for $20 sometimes it's crazy. Back to topic, Nigerians this is how u compare things to be on the fair side. What's Trump's policy on racial integration, I heard America is more divided now than before, here Buhari is not paying much attention to federal character as he should, that's one of the reasons people are angry, same way minorities are angry with Trump. How has this affected daily living among minorities?



First of all, these aren't worst cases in Nigeria. These are things that happen to the average citizens; everyday life. We're not talking about people in the villages where education or basic social amenities are non-existent. We are discussing life for the average person.

I hope you know Judge Judy is just banter? You get about $5k for appearing on the show, So... they are all clowning themselves on there. Yes, you can take people to small claims court but don't let what you see on Judge Judy trick you. Also, what's the point you were trying to make? What's wrong in suing for money owed? I think I missed the message. Please explain it to me.

Trump has a policy on racial integration? I didn't know. What does it say?

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by tall2ce(m): 11:43am On Aug 17
theamerican:


cc @justwise in case this is in the wrong section.
USA am coming
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mizwisdom(f): 12:36pm On Aug 17
theamerican:


First of all, these aren't worst cases in Nigeria. These are things that happen to the average citizens; everyday life. We're not talking about people in the villages where education or basic social amenities are non-existent. We are discussing life for the average person.

I hope you know Judge Judy is just banter? You get about $5k for appearing on the show, So... they are all clowning themselves on there. Yes, you can take people to small claims court but don't let what you see on Judge Judy trick you. Also, what's the point you were trying to make? What's wrong in suing for money owed? I think I missed the message. Please explain it to me.

Trump has a policy on racial integration? I didn't know. What does it say?


Cheers, as of today no one has given figures to the population of public & private sector workers who aren't being paid regularly, therefore u and I are discussing based on undocumented stats. Personally , I know that some States are far behind in payment of workers and some others are doing it on time but we can't conclude that it's a normal thing for salaries to be unpaid, except we are not being accurate(I'll update if I can collate the states affected). Hm I'm startin to wonder if american media is built on presenting falsehood as fact to us, here i was thinking judge Judy is real cause when the show is being played the first words we hear are "The cases are real, the judgements are real" but you know your country more than I do. Trump, Trump, Trump! uncle is serious about this migration policy and most people affected by it are not of white origin. Foreign policy seems less brutal on Europe than others, tot this will create bad blood between races internally, or might not, o well, whatever.
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by theamerican(f): 3:49pm On Aug 17
Mizwisdom:



Cheers, as of today no one has given figures to the population of public & private sector workers who aren't being paid regularly, therefore u and I are discussing based on undocumented stats. Personally , I know that some States are far behind in payment of workers and some others are doing it on time but we can't conclude that it's a normal thing for salaries to be unpaid, except we are not being accurate(I'll update if I can collate the states affected). Hm I'm startin to wonder if american media is built on presenting falsehood as fact to us, here i was thinking judge Judy is real cause when the show is being played the first words we hear are "The cases are real, the judgements are real" but you know your country more than I do. Trump, Trump, Trump! uncle is serious about this migration policy and most people affected by it are not of white origin. Foreign policy seems less brutal on Europe than others, tot this will create bad blood between races internally, or might not, o well, whatever.

Mr A comes on the show to sue Mr B for $600. Both of them are paid $5k each for appearing. Mr A wins, B is forced to pay him $600 so A now has $5600 while Mr B has $4400. If B wins, they both keep their $5k. Cases are real, judgments are real but do you see the banter? Get it? Also, Judge Judy is retired. These people sign an agreement to make her the arbitrator of their case. That's all. It's like you and your friend signing a contract to make your pastor settle a small dispute. Read up on the show.

Now, stay on track. I asked you to tell me what Trump's policy on racial integration is like you claimed. Point it out so I can learn. What is the policy on racial integration?

Sometimes, you should hold yourself responsible for the conclusions you draw from what you read or see on TV. I don't support Trump or agree with a lot of his policies. The policies that have blatant traces of discrimination and stupidity have been thrown out in court many times (look up the ban on Muslim countries and the separation of families stuff for example). Foreign policies seem less brutal on Europeans because they abuse immigration laws a lot less than others. Put things into context and perspective.

Finally take some time to understand what I write before you mount a counter-argument. I didn't normalize non-payment of salaries. I've said it before, many people won't understand what the quality of life people abroad try to tell them is until they spend time in a system that really works.

Write "Buhari is nothing but a stupid slowpoke, You are the most stupid president we've ever had" to him on twitter and you'll see people say "don't let them come for you ooo". See? People are normalizing mediocrity. I'm surprised you're defending it but hey, you're free to have any opinion wink

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Beautyaddy: 5:47pm On Aug 17
theamerican:


Mr A comes on the show to sue Mr B for $600. Both of them are paid $5k each for appearing. Mr A wins, B is forced to pay him $600 so A now has $5600 while Mr B has $4400. If B wins, they both keep their $5k. Cases are real, judgments are real but do you see the banter? Get it? Also, Judge Judy is retired. These people sign an agreement to make her the arbitrator of their case. That's all. It's like you and your friend signing a contract to make your pastor settle a small dispute. Read up on the show.

Now, stay on track. I asked you to tell me what Trump's policy on racial integration is like you claimed. Point it out so I can learn. What is the policy on racial integration?

Sometimes, you should hold yourself responsible for the conclusions you draw from what you read or see on TV. I don't support Trump or agree with a lot of his policies. The policies that have blatant traces of discrimination and stupidity have been thrown out in court many times (look up the ban on Muslim countries and the separation of families stuff for example). Foreign policies seem less brutal on Europeans because they abuse immigration laws a lot less than others. Put things into context and perspective.

Finally take some time to understand what I write before you mount a counter-argument. I didn't normalize non-payment of salaries. I've said it before, many people won't understand what the quality of life people abroad try to tell them is until they spend time in a system that really works.

Write "Buhari is nothing but a stupid slowpoke, You are the most stupid president we've ever had" to him on twitter and you'll see people say "don't let them come for you ooo". See? People are normalizing mediocrity. I'm surprised you're defending it but hey, you're free to have any opinion wink

Huh ...is that how much those guest on that court show really paid?

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Tunmise100(m): 10:22pm On Aug 19
Finally I don land Trump's land. Chai! See beauty.
Frm JFK i don know say na Country i dey, where i dey come from na Shithole

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Berliner1: 10:19am On Aug 20
emelda86:




Brotherly help a sister come over to Germany I get my money ooo...na to come over plz reply I'm waiting

Funny bae....wait for my private Jet to pick you up.

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Ugosample(m): 10:42am On Aug 20
Tunmise100:
Finally I don land Trump's land. Chai! See beauty.

Frm JFK i don know say na Country i dey, where i dey come from na Shithole

grin grin
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by princfred(m): 12:38pm On Aug 20
theamerican:


Lmao. You've still not learnt how to ignore things. Please learn how to channel your energy away from negativity. Don't bother replying insults with insults. Leave them alone.
Now that i have enough free time to take on the goat whose shitful Nigerian brain can only interpret defending a good lady as asslicking while he is actually asslicking a sh*t hole of a country. That sh*t smoking President Buhari (i typed dulla*dinho and nairaland auto correct changes it to President Buhari.. wow!) thinks my success, his or that of a microscopic few in Nigeria automatically means the country has a resemblance of development.

Because he was raised in the village for so long by his great grand ma, on finally making it to the town, his archaic little mind takes the caricature of development he sees as real development.
In respect to your request i will let this brain dead truth-resistant low IQ imbe be since he cannot fully process the entire post you made but got his stupid filled poo brain triggered by a part of it which he misjudged. Then the part he thinks my reply to him is for the sake of pandering to woe you is just as silly as all his bushman-like posts. If am fully inclined to wooing you i can gladly do it openly here as a dont even give a f*ck if that will make drink from the gutters or hit the nearest market place Unclad with envy and jealousy. His opinion to whatever between us is as inconsequential to me as a fly on an elephant.
Maybe his brand of shity Nigerian brain cells na from the womb so little chance of light and enlightement penettrating through his fog of ego only demented cave orientation.
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Godchangemylife: 2:23pm On Oct 01
undecided

Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by catherinetrese: 12:35pm On Oct 10
Life would always be miserable abroad. But if you are with your family and u love your family more than your friends then you'll like living abroad. Then life is more expensive abroad if we are going to a more developed nation. Like a migrant going to Uk have to suffer massive transportation cost. But no need to worry with the car hire Heathrow you won't feel any burden

Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mancala: 7:34pm On Oct 10
I am interested in knowing, if anyone has the answers, what the current options are for a Nigerian to legally migrate to a western country like the U.S. (Canada excluded). And I mean migration in the true sense of the word where intent is expressely stated upfront. This disqualifies, for example, the F1 visa route where folks go to school, get a job and the employer files a PR for him or her. Or said temporary visa holder marries a USC and adjusts their status. And not through family ties either? Visa Lottery is no longer an option for now! I am wondering if there is any legal route for the average Nigerian who is tired of the country, to up and leave? When some other countries were going through rough times, lots of their citizens migrated simply for better economic opportunites for themselsves and family.

Here's some food for thought from back when there was mass migration into the US through Ellis Island. The list below shows the questions that were asked when folks just showed up straight off the boats. Most were let in provided they did not habor any diseases.

When immigrants arrived at Ellis Island, they were funneled through a line in the Great Hall. In addition to medical examinations, they spent several hours answering questions. They were asked 29 questions with the help of an interpreter, including these:
• Are you meeting a relative here in America? Who?
• Have you been in a prison, almshouse, or institution for care of the insane?
• Are you a polygamist? Are you an anarchist?
• Are you coming to America for a job? Where will you work?
• Are you deformed or crippled?
• Who was the first President of America?
• What is the Constitution?
• Which President freed the slaves?
• Can you name the 13 original Colonies?
• Who is the current President of the United States?

Do you honestly think the decks are not stacked against the average Nigerian?
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Babyvet: 7:57pm On Oct 10
Mancala:
I am interested in knowing, if anyone has the answers, what the current options are for a Nigerian to legally migrate to a western country like the U.S. (Canada excluded). And I mean migration in the true sense of the word where intent is expressely stated upfront. This disqualifies, for example, the F1 visa route where folks go to school, get a job and the employer files a PR for him or her. Or said temporary visa holder marries a USC and adjusts their status. And not through family ties either? Visa Lottery is no longer an option for now! I am wondering if there is any legal route for the average Nigerian who is tired of the country, to up and leave? When some other countries were going through rough times, lots of their citizens migrated simply for better economic opportunites for themselsves and family.

Here's some food for thought from back when there was mass migration into the US through Ellis Island. The list below shows the questions that were asked when folks just showed up straight off the boats. Most were let in provided they did not habor any diseases.

When immigrants arrived at Ellis Island, they were funneled through a line in the Great Hall. In addition to medical examinations, they spent several hours answering questions. They were asked 29 questions with the help of an interpreter, including these:
• Are you meeting a relative here in America? Who?
• Have you been in a prison, almshouse, or institution for care of the insane?
• Are you a polygamist? Are you an anarchist?
• Are you coming to America for a job? Where will you work?
• Are you deformed or crippled?
• Who was the first President of America?
• What is the Constitution?
• Which President freed the slaves?
• Can you name the 13 original Colonies?
• Who is the current President of the United States?

Do you honestly think the decks are not stacked against the average Nigerian?

Why is Canada excluded? For the U.S no other option except through job, family or spouse. Military is no longer an option because now you have to be a green card colder or citzen to join.
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mancala: 9:09pm On Oct 10
I excluded Canada because they have an established pathway. I think Australia does too, but I may be mistaken. The U.S. and most other western nations proudly state that they welcome migrants but create no legal pathway outside of assylum or if you already have a leg in like a spouse or family member who can file for you. They strongly discourage migration through means of a temporary visa with very strong consequences.

Makes me wonder who's being disingenuous and playing games? The average Nigerian who misrepresents at the embassy (trying to get a visitors visa and forever leave the suffering they have to endure) or those that say "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Ironic yes? The exact words written on the statue of liberty!
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Babyvet: 2:36am On Oct 11
Mancala:
I excluded Canada because they have an established pathway. I think Australia does too, but I may be mistaken. The U.S. and most other western nations proudly state that they welcome migrants but create no legal pathway outside of assylum or if you already have a leg in like a spouse or family member who can file for you. They strongly discourage migration through means of a temporary visa with very strong consequences.

Makes me wonder who's being disingenuous and playing games? The average Nigerian who misrepresents at the embassy (trying to get a visitors visa and forever leave the suffering they have to endure) or those that say "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Ironic yes? The exact words written on the statue of liberty!

Please use the quote button , next time when responding. But I don’t know about other western countries but America is not welcoming immigrants especially the non white ones. If you have a pathway to immigrant status then that’s fine. Visa overstaying is very big
problem. Coming here with non immigrant status and converting to immigrant status is a difficult task, with high chances of the individual getting stuck.
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mancala: 3:09am On Oct 11
Babyvet:


Please use the quote button , next time when responding. But I don’t know about other western countries but America is not welcoming immigrants especially the non white ones. If you have a pathway to immigrant status then that’s fine. Visa overstaying is very big
problem. Coming here with non immigrant status and converting to immigrant status is a difficult task, with high chances of the individual getting stuck.

Eureka! We have reached the same conclusions. The points I was trying to tease out are (1) there was a time Europe was in dire straits and their citizens flocked to America because of economic hardship. All they had to do was get on a boat and show up at Ellis Isalnd, answer a few basic questions and boom, they were in! (2) Despite the fact that America says it's a country of immigrants and in theory welcomes immigrants, no such accommodations have been accorded to Nigerians or any other black nation in dire economic problems.

There are very limited options for a Nigerian to legaly immigrate to the U.S in good faith. They want us to be honest and straight when applying for visas but have created a system that pressures applicants to be dishonest in order to succeed. If you give any indication as to your real intent, you're toast! The decks are certainly stacked against us.

Whoever wants to immigrate to the U.S. ex family sponsorship, assylum, job sponsorship or lottery will have to be dishonest at some point along the way. Harsh reality! Let the games continue.

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Babyvet: 3:29am On Oct 11
Mancala:


Eureka! We have reached the same conclusions. The points I was trying to tease out are (1) there was a time Europe was in dire straits and their citizens flocked to America because of economic hardship. All they had to do was get on a boat and show up at Ellis Isalnd, answer a few basic questions and boom, they were in! (2) Despite the fact that America says it's a country of immigrants and in theory welcomes immigrants, no such accommodations have been accorded to Nigerians or any other black nation in dire economic problems.

There are very limited options for a Nigerian to legaly immigrate to the U.S in good faith. They want us to be honest and straight when applying for visas but have created a system that pressures applicants to be dishonest in order to succeed. If you give any indication as to your real intent, you're toast! The decks are certainly stacked against us.

Whoever wants to immigrate to the U.S. ex family sponsorship, assylum, job sponsorship or lottery will have to be dishonest at some point along the way. Harsh reality! Let the games continue.



It is what it is. No need to beg them, go to where you are wanted in this world . America is overrated anyways. Too much racial tension and so many other issues that one has to live here to understand.
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mancala: 3:52am On Oct 11
Babyvet:


It is what it is. No need to beg them, go to where you are wanted in this world . America is overrated anyways. Too much racial tension and so many other issues that one has to live here to understand.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of in process for intending migrants to be self aware.
I totally understand the issues in America, been living here for more than 20 years... and legally too grin
But I disagree with your assertion that America is overrated. There is no other country in the world that offers up as much opportunity as there is here. Immigrants may not be overtly wanted or welcome, but we are definitely needed. Like any other nation, America has its issues. But I would rather deal with America's issues than Nigeria's. A vast majority of the issues here can be mitigated by relocating to another state or city. For example, the racism issue you mentioned is more pronounced in some, states than others. I would encourage any Nigerian to move here by any means legal. If you work hard and play by the rules, you are likely to very successful or at least guaranteed the basics of a decent existence.

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Babyvet: 4:05am On Oct 11
Mancala:


Just pointing out the hypocrisy of in process for intending migrants to be self aware.
I totally understand the issues in America, been living here for more than 20 years... and legally too grin
But I disagree with your assertion that America is overrated. There is no other country in the world that offers up as much opportunity as there is here. Immigrants may not be overtly wanted or welcome, but we are definitely needed. Like any other nation, America has its issues. But I would rather deal with America's issues than Nigeria's. A vast majority of the issues here can be mitigated by relocating to another state or city. For example, the racism issue you mentioned is more pronounced in some, states than others. I would encourage any Nigerian to move here by any means legal. If you work hard and play by the rules, you are likely to very successful or at least guaranteed the basics of a decent existence.


In my opinion , it is overated I’m not going to compare it to Nigeria . America is much older than Nigeria. Racism may be pronounced in some states but it is foundation of America. It’s ingrained the system and no one can hide from it . Whether people choose to see it or not , it’s their business. Even Americans who grew up here admit its overated . It’s just highly rated because there are so many poorly functioned countries in the world.

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Ugosample(m): 8:39am On Oct 11
Babyvet:


In my opinion , it is overated I’m not going to compare it to Nigeria . America is much older than Nigeria. Racism may be pronounced in some states but it is foundation of America. It’s ingrained the system and no one can hide from it . Whether people choose to see it or not , it’s their business. Even Americans who grew up here admit its overated . It’s just highly rated because there are so many poorly functioned countries in the world.

The USA is among the best 20 countries in the world to live in out of over 200 plus cheesy

America might be all "shine shine" and perhaps "overestimated" but then, it's better to live there than to live in the "poverty capital" of the world cheesy or many other shitholes out there tongue

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Jamestown123: 10:42am On Oct 11
LUCAS99:


Honestly speaking, America has a way of getting you tied down into the system.

We make a lot of money but at the same time we spend a lot of money so at the end of the day is extremely difficult to save a lot of money after all the bills are paid.

As it stands now, the only thing holding me back here in the States is Funds.

Once I raise a enough funds {$100,000 -$200,000} I’m on the next flight back to Nigeria even if I have to take a loan from the bank.

I have already obtained a United States Passport so I can visit whenever I want.

Even if my kids are born in Nigeria then automatically they also become U.S. Citizen since I, the father is a U.S. Citizen.

Disclaimer: Please don’t leave America and relocate to Nigeria except you have obtained your U.S. Passport that way you have an option of going back if things don’t work out in Nigeria.

Anything apart from what I said above will be suicidal and you will only have yourself to blame since I will not be held liable for dishing out advice on an open web forum.
Na WA oo
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Babyvet: 12:38pm On Oct 11
Ugosample:


The USA is among the best 20 countries in the world to live in out of over 200 plus cheesy

America might be all "shine shine" and perhaps "overestimated" but then, it's better to live there than to live in the "poverty capital" of the world cheesy or many other shitholes out there tongue


Also action speak louder than words. This president says he wants legal immigrants but is also trying to cut legal immigrantion especially for people of color. In general , America looks very good to someone whose country lacks basic amenities , to those whose who come from countries who have basic amenities, America is usually rated okay or overated. Either coming to America as long as you do it the legal way and have realistic expections . That’s number one problem with Nigerians who end up in trouble here, trying to cut corners and having unrealistic expecting of trying to “blow”.

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Ugosample(m): 12:52pm On Oct 11
Babyvet:


Also action speak louder than words. This president says he wants legal immigrants but is also trying to cut legal immigrantion especially for people of color. In general , America looks very good to someone whose country lacks basic amenities , to those whose who come from countries who have basic amenities, American is usually rated okay or overated. Either coming to America as long as you do it the legal way and have realistic expections . That’s number one problem with Nigerians who end up in trouble here, trying to cut corners and having unrealistic expecting of trying to “blow”.

the only route id consider if ever I think of moving to the USA is via the investment visa route

But $500k is not cheap

So let me respect myself and look for other places that will require less
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Babyvet: 1:16pm On Oct 11
Ugosample:


the only route id consider if ever I think of moving to the USA is via the investment visa route

But $500k is not cheap

So let me respect myself and look for other places that will require less

Lol, many nigerians do not have the $500,000 .If they do, they will not be able to provide legitimate means of how they got that money. Mostly big time Asians investors do that program to get papers and expand their business.

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mizwisdom(f): 1:48pm On Oct 11
Babyvet:


In my opinion , it is overated I’m not going to compare it to Nigeria . America is much older than Nigeria. Racism may be pronounced in some states but it is foundation of America. It’s ingrained the system and no one can hide from it . Whether people choose to see it or not , it’s their business. Even Americans who grew up here admit its overated . It’s just highly rated because there are so many poorly functioned countries in the world.


I like your view of things, you don't sugar coat it like others do.
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Babyvet: 2:27pm On Oct 11
Mizwisdom:



I like your view of things, you don't sugar coat it like others do.

My sister , one has to be straight forward with people especially the ones back home with fairytale thinking.

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Ugosample(m): 6:12pm On Oct 11
Babyvet:


Lol, many nigerians do not have the $500,000 .If they do, they will not be able to provide legitimate means of how they got that money. Mostly big time Asians investors do that program to get papers and expand their business.

what an irony

those who have cannot prove a clean audit trail of how they made the money (most of them) while much more don't even have at all

What does that say about the state of the country tongue

I plan on getting another investment visa soon, but I need to raise the complete capital first undecided

$500k is a talk order for me atm so I should just respect myself and be reasonable
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mancala: 7:00pm On Oct 11
Babyvet:


In my opinion , it is overated I’m not going to compare it to Nigeria . America is much older than Nigeria. Racism may be pronounced in some states but it is foundation of America. It’s ingrained the system and no one can hide from it . Whether people choose to see it or not , it’s their business. Even Americans who grew up here admit its overated . It’s just highly rated because there are so many poorly functioned countries in the world.

Racism and discrimination should not and has not deterred different groups of people from succeeding in America. There were periods in the not too distant past when the Irish and Catholics were despised but that has passed. The system, albeit imperfect, is in my opinion the best there is relativley speaking. The American constitution is a fabulous document that comes very close to being the perfect recipe for creating a society where everyone can live out their lives the way they want as long you don't affect or deny anyone else their rights. One thing about this society that makes it preferable to Nigeria is that you do not need to amass wealth to pass on to the next generation to guarantee their survival. Everyone is given the opportunity to work as hard as you want and outcomes are relatively proportional to the effort you put in.

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mancala: 7:13pm On Oct 11
Ugosample:


what an irony

those who have cannot prove a clean audit trail of how they made the money (most of them) while much more don't even have at all

What does that say about the state of the country tongue

I plan on getting another investment visa soon, but I need to raise the complete capital first undecided

$500k is a talk order for me atm so I should just respect myself and be reasonable

If you have the ability to raise $500k in Nigeria, why the heck would you plough it into a U.S. investment visa just for immigration benefits? Your return on invetsment will probably be be dismal with all the conditions attached to that route! If I was you, I will take that money and invest it in caribbean country or a country like Belize and make a killing. A certain Nigerian whom I will not name is the King of Sugar in Belize He makes a Kings ransome with very little investment.
Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Mancala: 7:22pm On Oct 11
Babyvet:


Also action speak louder than words. This president says he wants legal immigrants but is also trying to cut legal immigrantion especially for people of color. In general , America looks very good to someone whose country lacks basic amenities , to those whose who come from countries who have basic amenities, America is usually rated okay or overated. Either coming to America as long as you do it the legal way and have realistic expections . That’s number one problem with Nigerians who end up in trouble here, trying to cut corners and having unrealistic expecting of trying to “blow”.

I don't understand why Nigerians come here and try to blow? There is absolutely no need to amass wealth here. You can live a very decent life on less than $100k per annum. Your kids will go to good schools and you can ensure they have good morals and work ethics. If you raise them right, they will go on to make their own living. No need to amass wealth for anybody.

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Re: Is Life Abroad Worth The Stress And Hype? Memoirs Of A Naturalized Immigrant. by Ugosample(m): 8:10pm On Oct 11
Mancala:


If you have the ability to raise $500k in Nigeria, why the heck would you plough it into a U.S. investment visa just for immigration benefits? Your return on invetsment will probably be be dismal with all the conditions attached to that route! If I was you, I will take that money and invest it in caribbean country or a country like Belize and make a killing. A certain Nigerian whom I will not name is the King of Sugar in Belize He makes a Kings ransome with very little investment.

I know the person his name starts with a "grin"

please tell me I'm right cheesy

An Asian country or a Latin American country is also a possibility; because those people have good roi as well.
I know an Igbo guy from my side operating a textile stop at Laos cheesy

Laos of all places cheesy

But depending on the business, ROI in America could also be very good as well


I have been doing my research on this subject matter, and though I am happy and accomplished to an extent where I am,; but I'm looking for New challenges in the near future

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