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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Lexusgs430: 8:48am On Apr 22, 2018
africanusvu:
Yes.they leave the country to UK and USA and ends up more as Cab drivers and chauffeur

A trained doctor? Wake up from this dream...... Not unless they gave been struck off.....

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by utytill(m): 8:51am On Apr 22, 2018
kikiki,Nigerian doctors going abroad to work as Nurses.
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by africanusvu(m): 8:53am On Apr 22, 2018
Pes13:
Very good.

As a medical student, I know the pain I went through to secure admission in this shithole economy. What about all unnecessary stress in medical school due to poor funding and equipment.

You expect me to finish 6+x years, and start being paid #200, 000 when my counterpart are collecting over $10,000.

Nonsense.

When the doctor patient ratio gets to 1:50,000, Nigeria government will wake to their responsibility.
.stop overeating ourselves.u do noting without others.I scored more than u to gain admission in FUTO as a chemical Engr.study more than u and perform better.u chosed medicine makes u not special to a historian
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by lulufaj(m): 8:53am On Apr 22, 2018
murphyibiam15:

I'm a Nigerian doctor too and I'm interested in leaving this shithole... any suggestions as per the best country and how to do so..esp outside usmle and plab.


Please send a direct message doctor. I am willing to assist you in any way you want.
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Leopantro: 8:53am On Apr 22, 2018
utytill:
kikiki,Nigerian doctors going abroad to work as Nurses.


who are paid better than the doctors here

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Lexusgs430: 8:54am On Apr 22, 2018
utytill:
kikiki,Nigerian doctors going abroad to work as Nurses.

How can? Where do you get all this from?

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by lordOM(m): 8:57am On Apr 22, 2018
Sometimes it's better to ignore misinformed individuals.

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by danilmo: 9:10am On Apr 22, 2018
lulufaj:
The data is incorrect. The GMC conducts plab exams twice yearly with a Centre capacity of 1500. That’s for Uk only. Nigerian doctors practice in Namibia! Things are that bad! Soon rich Nigerians will travel abroad to see us leaving poor Nigerians to suffer.
I expect Nigerians to rise up in unison to demand better medical conditions but they won’t. Some ignorant people are even saying the 2000 is a lie! .
My advice for any serious minded Nigerian doctor. Run for your dear life. You need info,materials etc,lemme know pls.

biko pls am still in preclinical, yr 3

which class most I get to before writing those usmle and co pls,
cant graduate and one johesu will start shinning teeth for me,,,

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by danilmo: 9:17am On Apr 22, 2018
utytill:
kikiki,Nigerian doctors going abroad to work as Nurses.


oda
is it ur going, leave them alone biko , at least with a better pay
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by skallion7(m): 9:17am On Apr 22, 2018
The number is exaggerated
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by activistjohnny(m): 9:19am On Apr 22, 2018
it's so so unfortunate that we are experiencing this crisis in this nation. out of 10 doctors in Nigeria, 8 of them are already planning to leave Nigeria. so so painful and pathetic. all is well.

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by africanusvu(m): 9:21am On Apr 22, 2018
Lexusgs430:


A trained doctor? Wake up from this dream...... Not unless they gave been struck off.....
.not dreams bros.over 87% of these figure given ends up dropping medicine to very funny and disgraceful other means of livelihood. No joke abt that.just confirm this
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by oluwasegun007(m): 9:33am On Apr 22, 2018
And they are mostly lazy youth.....
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Lexusgs430: 9:35am On Apr 22, 2018
africanusvu:
.not dreams bros.over 87% of these figure given ends up dropping medicine to very funny and disgraceful other means of livelihood. No joke abt that.just confirm this

Not unless they have been struck off..... Why would a Medical Doctor end up driving a cab, when loads of vacancies are available for Medical Doctors?

Not unless they are driving, till all conversions are completed..... But they still end up practicing......

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by IbnIbrahim: 9:35am On Apr 22, 2018
And much more will still leave God willing.
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by IbnIbrahim: 9:37am On Apr 22, 2018
africanusvu:
.not dreams bros.over 87% of these figure given ends up dropping medicine to very funny and disgraceful other means of livelihood. No joke abt that.just confirm this
You have to be more explicit about your comment. What do you mean by funny and disgraceful means of livelihood?
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by IbnIbrahim: 9:39am On Apr 22, 2018
skallion7:
The number is exaggerated
Exaggerated or not, the fact remains that doctor s are leaving Nigeria en masse. You won't believe this statistics until a time you get to the hospital and there is no doctor to attend to you.

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by rs172(m): 9:40am On Apr 22, 2018
OboOlora:
Incorrect data!

With the no of those writing Primaries, ielts, GRE, USMLE..... I doubt this data can be accurate

All my Dr friends in Nigeria call me everyday to know how they can leaverhe poohole!





olorun ooo, ora wa ni obo ee da da
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Cuteamigo1(m): 9:41am On Apr 22, 2018
Lexusgs430:



You are forgetting that it works like a revolving belt structure......

Some are checking out to seek better work/family balance, wage etc etc

Others are checking in......
Given what you said then maybe Nigeria is safe then. as many are checking out, many are also checking in.
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Lexusgs430: 9:43am On Apr 22, 2018
Cuteamigo1:
Given what you said then maybe Nigeria is safe then. as many are checking out, many are also checking in.

I don't think the rate of checking in, equates the rate of checking out......

And those that check into Nigeria, are doing so not to practice at any Government hospitals........

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Cuteamigo1(m): 9:48am On Apr 22, 2018
Lexusgs430:


I don't think the rate of checking in, equates the rate of checking out......

And those that check into Nigeria, are doing so not to practice at any Government hospitals........
owk ooo. i pray the government surrenders to the will of them doctors then
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by zoomzoom(m): 9:51am On Apr 22, 2018
Okwyla:
Stakeholders in the health sector have expressed alarm at the rate Nigerian physicians are trooping abroad in search of greener pastures.

In separate interviews with The Guardian, they shed light on the urgency of the situation, calling on the Federal Government to do more to save the nation’s health infrastructure.

It is estimated that at least 2,000 medical doctors leave the country yearly for the United Kingdom, United States, Canada, Australia, United Arab Emirates (UAE), and South Africa.


“This is cataclysmic, given the fact that currently, contrary to the recommendations of the World Health Organisation (WHO) of a ratio of one doctor to 600 patients, Nigeria has a ratio of one doctor to 6,000 patients.

This poor doctor-patient ratio is regrettable when compared to the ratio of doctor to patients in India (1:2083) and in the United States (1:500).”

Figures released February 2018 by the British government indicate that no fewer than 5,405 Nigerian-trained doctors and nurses are currently working with the British National Health Service (NHS) in the United Kingdom (U.K.).

This means that Nigerian medics constitute 3.9 per cent of the 137,000 foreign staff of 202 nationalities working alongside British doctors and nurses.

A Consultant Neurological Surgeon, Brain and Spine Surgery Consortium Abuja, Dr. Biodun Ogungbo, regretted that fresh doctors no longer see a bright future within the shores of Nigeria. “The conditions of work are poor.

The facilities are poor and the remunerations are poor. Many doctors are breadwinners in their families but are unable to deliver family expectations,” he said.

He advised: “The government needs to take healthcare seriously and make it a major priority in view of its critical importance to our lives. The amount budgeted for health must be increased. Better financing translates to more remuneration for health workers, increased training opportunities for doctors, availability of equipment and other consumables.”

Professor of Radiology, College of Medicine, University of Nigeria Nsukka, Ifeoma Okoye, shared her experience on the pitiful state of the healthcare system: “As a radiologist, my colleagues and I have faced frustration and embarrassment due to lack of imaging equipment to hone our skills and provide quality service confidently to our patient population, as well as hold our heads high at international fora, where we are faced with colleagues who run their daily practice on the latest high-end modalities.

For most of us, knowledge of such equipment is at best theoretical and these experiences of inadequacy turn our professional lives into one of hard labour and frustration.”

Okoye, also a Consultant Radiologist, University of Nigeria Teaching Hospital Enugu

(UNTH), explained: “Trained health professionals are needed in every part of the world, and so when healthcare professionals lack opportunities for professional development, enabling environment to practice and optimise their skills, and find that their quality of life and ability to train their children in the best educational institutions is gated by their poor salaries (compared to their peers in more advanced countries), they permit their brains to be drained.”

According to her, developing the clinical trial industry can add value to “identified growth indicators and become the cornerstone of health and economic transformational agenda, which should help Africa climb up the value chain towards industrialisation and provide opportunities to bring the large informal sector progressively into the formal economy.”

Dr. Muhammad Ali Pate, former Minister of State for Health and Executive Director Primary Health Care Development Agency (NPHCDA), told The Guardian: “If political leaders, who control the public purse, continue to choose to travel abroad for medical care, it is a signal for domestic health workers that they, too, ought to travel abroad, in order to practice and advance themselves professionally. We cannot have one without the other.”

His view was shared by Medical Director and Chief Executive Officer, Beaconhill Smile Clinics, Dr. Oluwaseun Akinbobola, who noted: “Healthcare is not a priority in our nation, as most decision makers would rather travel abroad when the need arises. Until we prioritise healthcare, I don’t believe this dramatic exodus of doctors will end. You cannot fix a health system you don’t believe in.”

He, therefore, advised: “The leadership of the country must instill confidence in and show willingness to improve healthcare services by signing necessary health acts and bills, increasing funding for the sector and ensuring that funds are properly managed.”

Former President of the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) and Vice President Commonwealth Medical Association (CWMA), Dr. Osahon Enabulele, recommended: “Better political commitment to health; better appreciation of the worth of medical personnel, along with better and competitive wages; better working conditions and inspiring work environment; better security and access to social amenities; attractive and globally respected postgraduate training programmes.”

Medical Director, Optimal Specialist Hospital Surulere, Lagos, Dr. Celestine Ugochukwu Chukwunenye, on his part, stressed: “Federal Medical Centres should be handed over to the states. Each teaching hospital should then be allowed to float or sink.

Their governing boards should reflect the interest of their catchment area and appropriate pricing of their services in line with available government subsidies.”

He said the National Health Insurance Scheme (NHIS) must be strengthened to provide better access to these facilities. According to him, it is a ruse to think that forcing the teaching hospitals to charge fees like Primary Health Centres (PHCs) is the way to improve access to them.

Patients, meanwhile, have deserted the University of Calabar Teaching Hospital (UCTH), following the strike action by members of the Joint Health Sector Unions (JOHESU), now in its fourth day.

The union embarked on the strike after the expiration of an ultimatum it gave the Federal Government, alleging non-implementation of an agreement that included salaries.

http://www.akelicious.net/2018/04/2000-medical-doctors-leave-nigeria.html


See propaganda!!!
Which profession isn't leaving for greener pastures ?
Do you know how many Radiographer that are getting HCPC CERTIFIED and leaving yearly?
What is the ratio of radiographers to the population?
Same for other professionals.

My point?.
Medical doctors should drop this messianic-COMPLEX already.This whole write-up is in furtherance of their stance against the government implementing an agreement it willfully went into with other health professionals. They forget that everyone is"equally important".
The nonsense has to stop.

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by dayoimagicle: 9:55am On Apr 22, 2018
murphyibiam15:


check oliver consult or meedconsultants.com

any link to Saudi Arabia? I'm more interested in going there
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Lexusgs430: 10:24am On Apr 22, 2018
Cuteamigo1:
owk ooo. i pray the government surrenders to the will of them doctors then

I personally think, the government does not care about the health and well being of its citizens......

Once their health requires attention, they fly abroad to be looked after by the same Doctors checking out and they pay in hard currency.........

They are just simply clueless......
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Cuteamigo1(m): 10:30am On Apr 22, 2018
Lexusgs430:


I personally think, the government does not care about the health and well being of its citizens......

Once their health requires attention, they fly abroad to be looked after by the same Doctors checking out and they pay in hard currency.........

They are just simply clueless......
that is correct but really i dont know how to look at this. i think most institutions in the country are messed up. i want to side with the doctors but i think they need to be a little bit patient too(that is not to say thier current situation is anything to write home about). imagine the amount needed to put our power, agriculture, roads, railways, airports sea ports, educational sector and many more all on an 6 to 7 trillion budget that is never fully implemented. its gona take a genius to juggle all this and satisfy everybody in the process. the federal government needs to relieve itself of alot of this responsibilities and then things may work out.
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by vidid2all: 10:36am On Apr 22, 2018
stonemasonn:
2000 ke? See lie



I hate when people play with every truth. Nigeria is seriously going brain drain in all sector yet you chose to say that a proven fact is a LIE.

Get some brain
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by seunH: 10:40am On Apr 22, 2018
africanusvu:
Yes.they leave the country to UK and USA and ends up more as Cab drivers and chauffeur
lolzzzzzzzzzz, as if you will just travel out to, for example UK or US and just barge into any hospital and present your MD certificate and voila!!!!! you get employed and be earning 50,000 dollars per month. I know of a story of a surgeon in Nigeria who travelled to US, and is working as a taxi driver, but although I guess they are doing well and even a story of a doctor working as a chef in UK (I guess it was on NL). Even those who schooled over there are finding it difficult to get employment there except those born there or have citizenship. Rather than for these people to tell the younger ones the truth, they make them feel as if it is easy to just jet out and work abroad. No parastal in Nigeria is well paid from lecturers to even our security operatives (What do you expect a soldier who collects about 50k per month to go to Sambisa to fight BH to say) in fact compared to other professions in Nigeria, Dr's salary structure is better, right from NYSC (in Sokoto, Dr, Vets and Dentists earn 50k minus fed alawee while others like Botany, Education, Microbiology etc earn 5k) to civil service where a fresh graduate earns about 70-80k per month (placed at Level Eight) while a fresh Dr earns about 150k+ (placed at Level 12), almost X2. So to me it's a general problem in Nigeria and I believe Dr's are better off compared to other professions.

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Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Lexusgs430: 10:56am On Apr 22, 2018
Cuteamigo1:
that is correct but really i dont know how to look at this. i think most institutions in the country are messed up. i want to side with the doctors but i think they need to be a little bit patient too(that is not to say thier current situation is anything to write home about). imagine the amount needed to put our power, agriculture, roads, railways, airports sea ports, educational sector and many more all on an 6 to 7 trillion budget that is never fully implemented. its gona take a genius to juggle all this and satisfy everybody in the process. the federal government needs to relieve itself of alot of this responsibilities and then things may work out.

Don't forget that Dr's also have to have a sense of fulfillment and professionalism...... They also have families to look after and personal things they also want to achieve.........

When an SSCE holder is earning N13.1 Million a month, and a Doctor is earning N300,000 a month. N300,000 that can easily be made working for 2 days abroad. Imagine the multiplier effect on their pocket and bank balance....

Before anyone tells me wages are taxable and the cost of living is higher, I guarantee you like for like, checking out like Andrew, is the best solution.......
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Nobody: 11:06am On Apr 22, 2018
zoomzoom:



See propaganda!!!
Which profession isn't leaving for greener pastures ?
Do you know how many Radiographer that are getting HCPC CERTIFIED and leaving yearly?
What is the ratio of radiographers to the population?
Same for other professionals.

My point?.
Medical doctors should drop this messianic-COMPLEX already.This whole write-up is in furtherance of their stance against the government implementing an agreement it willfully went into with other health professionals. They forget that everyone is"equally important".
The nonsense has to stop.

1. It isn't propaganda, it is more of a pointer to the fact that we are not funding health care adequately.

2.The only ways to increase funding are by more taxes, higher hospital fees or privatization of hospitals.

3. Johesu and doctors should join hands and fight on the funding issues because govt does not have money to hear anyone. SSANU went on strike recently, govt just looked at them.
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by yomi007k(m): 11:30am On Apr 22, 2018
IbnIbrahim:

Exaggerated or not, the fact remains that doctor s are leaving Nigeria en masse. You won't believe this statistics until a time you get to the hospital and there is no doctor to attend to you.

Exactly!
Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Amarabae(f): 11:38am On Apr 22, 2018
murphyibiam15:

I'm a Nigerian doctor too and I'm interested in leaving this shithole... any suggestions as per the best country and how to do so..esp outside usmle and plab.

Re: 2,000 Medical Doctors Leave Nigeria Yearly by Amarabae(f): 11:43am On Apr 22, 2018
Are they the only professionals in this country?
Maybe the government should start paying them millions monthly, maybe they will stop nagging.
This is not an attack, they are needed in the country but they should understand that the problem is from the corrupt system.
A teacher in a government school is paid peanut,
A police man is paid peanut
Same with soldiers.
Any doctor that have chance to leave the country should leave,
That's the best thing to do.

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