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Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 3:45pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
macof: Do you see how brief and irrelevant to the post your attack is? Because it's a smokescreen to cover the obvious. You can never get beyond your cover because it can be delicate. I've seen that the software could not give a sensible reversion to English, and you are not prepared for another scandal after the "e sise si iko Yoruba yin" saga, where you mean this to say "you made mistake in your Yoruba". A native Yoruba would say "miole rerin" or "mofee rerin ku". What does your version translated to in English? You are thinking from English to Yoruba, using a software. Your incompetence dossier is on the way I thought you are the champion for Niger Congo linguistic family? You have methodology learnt from your professor. Can you think out of the box? Yes, you claimed. If so, how come the same you mocking my claim that odion and odiyan means the same thing when its not long ago you claimed fon and Igbo have vocabulary and semantic connection with the Yoruba? Of course I know you are snooping on my point about avoseh and afose, and Onitsha and Ado nidu. You failed to provide a valid instance from your professor. You have "mindshare" with me in this circumstance. So, if the Yoruba who has close affinity with Edo cannot have a word with the same meaning, can you remind me how the two languages could share common origin? Your mind is not where your senses are, you have no clue what you stand for, you are clever but not intelligent. Since you cannot learn from people more intelligent than you, you failed to recognize "cognate" in two kindred languages. But you can speak on Viking, French, Norse, Farsi and so on, but a clueless chauffeur on the language of your primary assignment. You are fighting against your claims. macof: U're a man void at the core of your being, a thin god unto himself, casting down anyone who never share your dream or sentiments. When I inferred philosophy, citing great ideas from the heart of secular thinkers, the "healthy" you declared you have no interest in my dream or philosophy. Now that I wax spiritual, you found that to be a sickness. I thought my dream or philosophy or divinity ought not interest you. Did I stop you from your expression of atheism or whatever ego you choose to believe about the rudder of your life? Your existence is incomplete when you have not spread hate around your sphere of influence. I am the reason you are alive. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 4:23pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
2prexios: I am now one of your obsessions... Disgusting |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 4:38pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
macof: As Olu was your obsession when you created a counter thread for him in unanswered question on Yoruba Hebrew origin. You can always run, but you can never hide, just as you are hiding under this post to cover your shame or lack of it. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 5:40pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
macof:irrelevant post from uncultured Edo macof. I mock you 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 6:05pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
2prexios:You are the one who is giving the dehydrated brain macof ,the needed attention because, he basically has nothing tangible to offer since iran fulani, Iran Edo don't have oriki except oba Eweka and descendants. So, once he is afraid to post his family's Oriki , then it shows the fear that grips him. Isn't it a shame on his part for some who always want us to believe, he is an isese man . Femi or whatever his name is, wouldn't surprise me because I have met Edo descendants both patrilineal and matrilineal side who bore Yoruba names as surname and other names respectively . In fact, my friend got married to one of the man's daughter before, both of us know this damning information.So, I wont be surprised if Femi-macof is an Edo man or Igala or ,Esan man whose mother is linked with Yoruba ancestry, unlike one areafada on NL who simply stood by his patrilineal side and recognised his matrilineal Yoruba side. This the reason I suspect him without that he lacked oriki,which makes him irrelevant in whatsoever way,which has always been the reason ,no one see your opinion as what can be referenced. 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 8:47am On Mar 06, 2020 |
Olu317: You've really tried to have gotten his name. I never have an inkling about his identity for 9 years he has been trailing and trolling me. Yoruba said baaba leni baaba bani, iwon laabani sota mo. This guy has just been a nuisance. Imaging a man claiming common linguistic ancestry for west and south Africa that could not recognize "cognate" in two kindred languages. Now here he would be stuck: if he agrees with me as to Odiyan meaning Odion, his claims that I had been engaged in wordplay all along means that he is mentally dehydrated. Then his "outbursts turned claims" proves that he is mentally and intellectually deranged. And he has been fighting a blind cause all along. If he disagrees to the apparent, then it proves that he is mentally deranged and intellectually off range. His claims to nigercongo another anchor for a man without a specific base to launch out. If he return with another smokescreen as he always do, then he is an incompetent impostor without abilities other than to be invisible when his head is buried in the sand and all his body exposed to the light of the day. Did you mean he is an elderly man with grown up daughter married to your friend? That's something. So an elderly man is here with us using all sort of vulgar words? It can't be. Abi na so? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by lawani: 10:20am On Mar 06, 2020 |
I believe oduduwa was not a Yoruba man but was renamed oduduwa by Yorubas. He told the ife people he is a son of nimrod, so a middle eastern origin is plausible. Then the language we speak today is testimony that a large population of Egyptians mixed with us in the past just like a large population of Germanic people mixed with the celts to form the English people and language, English is a Germanic language. However the Yoruba are west Africans just the same way the English are Celtic. It is worth noting that the Hebrews spoke kemitic Egyptian during their four hundred years in Egypt before switching to their present language learned in Canaan. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 1:15pm On Mar 06, 2020 |
Obalufon: Baba ejo'o e dariji man yen o, Kofi tara tara gbadun ni problem eh o. Asi need madness e diedie, then to bati cast, aje ko kuku maa gbe inu ado yen, titi laelae. A wumi kojepe o maa stood down ninu ado yen gan ni, iya mbe fomo tio gbon, ekun mbe fomo tinsakiri. Leyin yen, to ba ni grace pe o tun taye wa, to ba ri nair...ko ni duro. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 11:37pm On Mar 06, 2020 |
2prexios:His name are Makinde Oluwafemi/Olufem . And it seems he is a journalist without substantial portfolio. Furthermore, there is no way he will agree with you because he is deranged. After all, he claims South Africa and West Africa are same people linguistically. No wonder, he hss been informing with substantial evidence or witnesses. And again, he said that Yoruba people have spiritual power to overturn delicacy issues as normal. Though it is noormal for misunderstanding to ensues but aftermath effect will be devastating. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 12:35am On Mar 07, 2020 |
Olu317: 2prexios: Olu317: So I am Makinde Olufemi, a journalist without portfolio whose daughter just married Olu 's friend I should be either Igala, Igbo, Edo or Esan from my father's side but Yoruba from my mother's side I'm sorry but how do these guys not make comedic scripts Certainly fitting for you and not history Seriously this could be the god given mission you have been looking for to help your lives cus I've been laughing hard Let me appreciate how olu's story developed from a certain edo man with yoruba names whose daughter married his friend but the 2prexios didn't understand but that gave a wonderful turn to my interesting back story Amazing. Can you guys use your imagination to find more of my origin like you do with yoruba origin? I like how instead of providing evidence for your Hebrew claims, you lot put so much mind into my origin. Shows how shacky and devoid of any valuable content you are right now 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 10:27am On Mar 07, 2020 |
macof: Smokescreen. How does this connect us to your last post about odiyan and Odion? How does this nonsense interpret "erin fee pami" back to English? You recently began digging to my profile on Facebook and turn around to claim you give me no regards when I connect you back to reality. I have nothing to hide. You are the one screaming "I'm Yoruba and right after my name Yoruba is my only identity" who asked you this before you impose it on them? That's the ultimate ruse. I have created a vacant place for you to post your oriki, b'ogo eni ba dani loju, afii gbari ni. Yoruba e ko l'ogo. Afoun pamo nii sami ona. I have your post where you claimed your ancestors emigrated into Yoruba land about a century ago from the middle belt. You made the post yourself. Since then you have acculturated into Yoruba culture, you claimed. You can deny this as lie. I have the link. I won't be surprised if this migration is your inspiration to Oduduwa coming from the middle belt to "civilize" Yoruba as you wont to do. So you are the online Oduduwa who has married into the local population. As for olu's info about you, even if your name is ekundayo, will you agree? Oruko omo nii momo sokigbe. The sorrow you think you can give others maximise your joy. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 12:37pm On Mar 07, 2020 |
2prexios:Obsession 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 6:43am On Mar 08, 2020 |
macof: End of discussion. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by RamessesIV(m): 9:06pm On Mar 08, 2020 |
This inferiority complex of negros,that they want to look for ways to tie themselves to the middle east cause of religion no wonder whites claim we weren't doing anything and all our achievements were done by Berber/arabs ��� 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 10:45am On Mar 10, 2020 |
Inferiority complex is a thing of the mind and afflicted you without you realizing it does. It's being blind to everything else except just about what the white man thinks is right about you. It's inferiority complex to speak English and be educated in the knowledge formulated by others when you could spend time "developing" your own. It's inferiority complex to speak of the black as 'negro' in this age and time without knowing the difference. A black man is human being first, with equal qualification as any other man anywhere on the planet. He is not his 'skin colour', his history is not about his 'skin colour'. The black man is not a creation of prejudices and spectra of prejudice interpretations. Please allow the black man to be human being without self inflicted prejudice. Allow him to be free to explore his past without minding the mockery of the white and their apologists. A negro is the creation of the white man and he thinks what the white man wants him to think. It's education to him because he can't be sure to make reasonable claims or deduction by himself. Knowledge is a neutral phenomena, it has nothing to do with race, it's your interpretation of the subject matter based on what you could offer. Justice is blind to sentiments, it's better to do justice to the topic. If you know better, you will not be ashamed to share what you know. I have shared what I know not what the white man wants me to know. Omo eru nii sinni. |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 8:15pm On Mar 10, 2020 |
RamessesIV:berbers are not white the berbers you see now are mixed berbers with Arabs the real Berbers are still in Algeria and morroco though little mixed with white but black 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 8:16pm On Mar 10, 2020 |
RamessesIV:blacks are diverse 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 8:29pm On Mar 10, 2020 |
RamessesIV:Yoruba don't have or exhibit inferiority complex because we are unique people.. that is why we need oduduwa republic, merging us with cows and half human half monkey has really slow us down 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 8:38pm On Mar 10, 2020 |
RamessesIV: Indigenous Berber, the Blue men, with the eponymous blue cloth veil One of the most misrepresent people in North Africa are the indigenous Berber people. These beautiful women are not shown on mainstream television, movies and rarely in print. These are the descendants of the ancient Berbers that the ancient Romans spoke of and wrote about. The original indigenous Berbers were the North African ancestors of the present day dark-brown peoples of the Sahara and the Sahel, mainly those called Fulani, Tugareg, Zenagha of Southern Morocco, Kunta and Tebbu of the Sahel countries, as well as other dark-brown arabs now living in Mauretania and throughout the Sahel, including the Trarza of Mauretania and Senegal, the Mogharba as well as dozens of other Sudanese tribes, the Chaamba of Chad and Algeria.” The Westerners have chosen to concentrate on the most recent world of the Arab and Berber-speaking peoples and present it as if it is a world that has always been. “It is like comparing the Aztecs of five hundred years ago with the ethnic mix of America today,” wrote Reynolds. “The story of when North Africa was Moorish and Arabia, the land of Saracens, has yet to be told.” – Dana Reynolds, Anthropologist Anthropologist, Dana Reynolds traced the African roots of the original North African peoples through a dozen Greek and Byzantine (neo-Roman writers) from the first to the sixth century A.D. “They describe the Berber population of Northern Africa as dark-skinned [modern Europeans call dark brown skin color, as black-skinned] and woolly-haired.” Among these writers who wrote about the Berbers were Martial, Silius Italicus, Corippus and Procopius. Saint Augustine was a dark-skinned Berber and many of the later Roman emperors would have trouble getting citizenship in some of today’s European states. – Professor Mikuláš Lobkowicz, the former rector of the Munich university and current director of the Institute of Central and East European Studies in Eichstätt. There are those who say that the Berber is part of the African story of Ham, from the land of Ber, the son of biblical figure Ham. The original inhabitants of Ireland before the Celts invaded were Berber people who stretch all the way from Saharan Africa to Western Ireland. In North Africa they are known as Berbers, the original people before the Arab invasion of North Africa, they were known to the ancient Greeks and Romans as “barbarians,” the Tuaregs of Nigeria, Niger, Chad, etc. are a Berber people. [Editors note: the Kanuris of North-Eastern Nigeria are known as the Iberi-beris. They are Berbers originally from Fezzan Libya] In Spain and Portugal they were known as “Iberians,” which is the name of the Peninsula. In Ireland the Berbers are known as “Hibernians.” The Celts and later invaders pushed them back to the West of Ireland, where you most commonly see the “black Irish” with black hair and brown eyes. The most popular recreational organization of Irish Americans is the Ancient Order of Hibernians (AOH). Modern Berber family having a traditional meal The images that are shown in mainstream television, movies and in print are of the lighter skinned people that are also referred as Berber. Modern north Africa has changed a great deal, from waves of invasions such as the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Germanic tribes, Arabs, Turks and the French have led to the amalgamation in the region. The role of literally millions of enslaved Indo-Europeans and concubinage in the creation of admixed populations in cities like Tunis, Tripoli, Fez, Sale and Algiers are well documented. This is the formation of populations in north Africa today. These now lighter skinned people do not call themselves African. In fact, the term “African” is a very demonized term to many, more than likely because of the modern European invasion into Africa, Europeans had to justify their behavior (some still do), and the term African is the object of ridicule and humiliation. The term Berber is now a regional word to apply to these people that now share many common cultural ideas and customs. “ 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by RamessesIV(m): 3:02pm On Mar 11, 2020 |
And what is the obssession with looking for blackness in every non-black society Like you have a whole continent to yourself why are so obsessed with who was black or not 5000 years ago?? Obalufon: |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by kayfra: 12:50am On Mar 12, 2020 |
The guys on this thread and their Tokunbo origins backed with ridiculous fairy tales and farfetched non-existent linguistic theories Crazy thread |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 1:48am On Mar 12, 2020 |
kayfra:ok |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 7:52am On Mar 12, 2020 |
RamessesIV: I want to believe you did not register a brand new account on nairaland just for this? Time will tell. Our obsession to black race is to inform you that we have history dating back to 5000 years ago in non-black societies around the world today. We are not a 'negro' whose history began with the advent of the European explorers in West coast, whose antiquity must be confined to this place. We are not negro whose identity is a continent they have to themselves, we are a people who can trace back to our root as far back. We are not an object of white Historical and scientific studies, we have interest in our history and antiquities too. So don't worry if we think differently too. We are not writing the history of the world, but the unwritten history of our ancestors. We have history dating that far, 5000 years of footprints stretching beyond our immediate environment, it's not a crime making this an obsession. Why do you prefer we confine to the continent we have? I think NASA need to confine to the earth and not find out about the outer space anymore. The limit of knowledge is always stretching. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by kayfra: 11:15am On Mar 12, 2020 |
2prexios: The biggest bunch of crap sandwich I've seen in a while. Identity appropriation Time to make this sh1t stop for real. It is embarrassing the length you guys will go |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 12:09pm On Mar 12, 2020 |
kayfra:you are not yoruba Mr monkey go and create ibo identity forum |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 2:06pm On Mar 12, 2020 |
kayfra: One thing is to have idea of something, another thing is to be knowledgeable enough to handle the subject when scrutinized. Niger Congo is the only linguistic endowment you have as history, no wonder its all your business is all about it here. Can you tell us about it. A learner will be inconsistent with his claims with a lot to hide. His best arguments are built on sinking sands. So insults and "victimism" is usually their second nature to scare away hard facts. The evidence that you have learned something indefensible with your default reasoning capacity is apparent. I am not discussing insult with you. All I'm saying is use your brain to think, it belongs to you. You have a problem with my idea, solve it, give a better explanation. Stop insulting public sensibility just because you have freedom of speech and that you are entitled to your opinions. My 2 cents tho. Explain how people cross the Sahara desert 10,000 years ago just before it dried up (we are at the "Green Sahara" again, this should be it ) baphomet will know. When you explain this, your claim has only started. What dried up the Sahara? It either got dried up by your claims or you find a better explanations. Talk on points. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by lawani: 4:20pm On Mar 12, 2020 |
This is the paper I was telling you about.http://obamaandpeace..com/2010/03/oduduwa-and-yoruba-revolution-in-world.html macof: |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by kayfra: 4:33pm On Mar 12, 2020 |
Obalufon: And you are "Hebrew" Odion or do you go by your Nago version "Odiyan"? Crazy folks |
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 5:05pm On Mar 12, 2020 |
kayfra:when you have no history , you will troll on others history bunch of monkeys you are as meaningless and crazy as your name |
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