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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by dalaman: 1:01am On May 06
IamaNigerianGuy:
Why are the Gods so powerless Now ?

That actually is the theme of the movie American Gods...
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by plaetton: 7:38am On May 06
bloodofthelamb:


Jesus did not lie, when He said those that received Him will do the work that He did. His promise is fulfilled in my life and in the life of thousands of my brothers, who has the Spirit of God upon them.

You guys don't normally believe such works for you guys have programmed yourselves to believe lies.

And Jesus, alleged son of God, supposedly cured leppers and polio victims, but apparently forgot to inform them that these diseases were caused by germs , until Louis Pasteur revealed to humanity that indeed , germs were the primary causes of diseases.
And humanity has not been the same ever since Louis Pasteur , perhaps a son of Satan (?) grin, came to Earth to make that revelation to human kind.

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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by Mujtahida: 11:09am On May 06
LoJ:

Let me attempt to throw bread on water, not even because I expect any good out of it, but just from a sincere desire to see deep people remain on nairaland.

The divine entities -should one be aware of their existence -are not more or less powerful today than in the past. They only seem so for2 main reasons:

1- many of the feats attributed to them were mere superstition and ignorance;
2- the age we live in / the evolution of mankind.

Point 1 is very easy to understand and it is the argument of many an atheist. It is true but incomplete.

Point 2 is what many skeptics fail to understand.

The microcosm is a reflection of the macrocosm. Mankind is like a baby trying to find its way to Maturity. Although at the beginning the baby is pampered and taken care of, there comes a time where he will gradually learn to do everything by himself.

We can therefore say the gods died - more exactly left - so that the superhuman can arise.
I have always mused on the second point you raised. Man will never know himself, would never reach the full stature of his humanity if he continues to live by 'thus says the Lord'. Whatever might be the merits of the so called word of God, I do not think man should live by the dictates of an external celestial entity.

Two things are at stake here: freedom and growth. So long as man lives by the word of God he'd remain a slave, a pathetic zombie and a wimp. That he would do evil, that there'd be retribution is no reason to rob man of his freedom.

If man is to do good let it come from his heart. If he's going to do evil so be it. It's no morality for me when a man's goodness is dictated by a book. No wonder Nietzche called such men corrupt. It's an affront to human dignity and worth when he gets tied up living by the word of God especially the cold words of dead books. Not me.

Just do it, I mean do life your way - 'whether good or evil- do it your way. If I were God those are the kind of men I would love - those who without the hope of reward did good or those who without the fear of punishment refrained from evil. Those are the real men- genuine, authentic and pure.

The words of the song 'My Way' sang by the inimitable King himself Elvis Presley captures my sentiments


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP8HO9TGkbw

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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by dalaman: 12:42pm On May 07
plaetton:


And Jesus, alleged son of God, supposedly cured leppers and polio victims, but apparently forgot to inform them that these diseases were caused by germs , until Louis Pasteur revealed to humanity that indeed , germs were the primary causes of diseases.
And humanity has not been the same ever since Louis Pasteur , perhaps a son of Satan (?) grin, came to Earth to make that revelation to human kind.


Nice one.

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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by awesomeJ(m): 3:56am On May 09
Seun:
If Gods existed, and acted the way the holy books say, there would be no atheists. The video below makes the point very effectively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhkPTQvMzQ

Even the Bible that you think is fiction has records of atheists.

The fact is even if God should appear in the sky, you folks would still choose not to believe in his existence. You'd just regard him as some being, and also argue that there's no proof of Him being the only such being in space, and there's no proof that he authored creation.

How do I know this, well, since day in day out thousands of people experience the supernatural, yet the testimonies don't convince you, you're certainly lost and blinded beyond the fixing proofs can offer.

This past month, a woman was dead in Bayelsa for 12 days and had already been embalmed. Her brother prayed that she would rise back to life and she did -After 12 days!!!

If such a testimony doesn't convince you of the existence of God, certainly nothing else will. It then would seem that you're bounded by an oath to never believe in God no matter how convincing the evidence is that you're presented with.

Anyways, sha know hell is real, and it's a torment that'll last for more than a billion trillion years.

Love you sir, but God certainly does much more.
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by felaismyhero(m): 7:59am On May 09
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Even the Bible that you think is fiction has records of atheists.

The fact is even if God should appear in the sky, you folks would still choose not to believe in his existence. You'd just regard him as some being, and also argue that there's no proof of Him being the only such being in space, and there's no proof that he authored creation.

How do I know this, well, since day in day out thousands of people experience the supernatural, yet the testimonies don't convince you, you're certainly lost and blinded beyond the fixing proofs can offer.

This past month, a woman was dead in Bayelsa for 12 days and had already been embalmed. Her brother prayed that she would rise back to life and she did -After 12 days!!!
lol,funny you.but this doesnt prove the existence of jehova-it might of a higher and more intelligent being.things like dis happen in the india,saudi arabia,and among native americans.they wud surely not give glory to jehova in those places.
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by awesomeJ(m): 8:19am On May 09
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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by dalaman: 11:15am On May 12
awesomeJ:


Even the Bible that you think is fiction has records of atheists.

The fact is even if God should appear in the sky, you folks would still choose not to believe in his existence. You'd just regard him as some being, and also argue that there's no proof of Him being the only such being in space, and there's no proof that he authored creation.

How do I know this, well, since day in day out thousands of people experience the supernatural, yet the testimonies don't convince you, you're certainly lost and blinded beyond the fixing proofs can offer.

This past month, a woman was dead in Bayelsa for 12 days and had already been embalmed. Her brother prayed that she would rise back to life and she did -After 12 days!!!

If such a testimony doesn't convince you of the existence of God, certainly nothing else will. It then would seem that you're bounded by an oath to never believe in God no matter how convincing the evidence is that you're presented with.

Anyways, sha know hell is real, and it's a torment that'll last for more than a billion trillion years.

Love you sir, but God certainly does much more.

Stop telling sweet lies for Jesus.

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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by frank317: 11:33am On May 12
awesomeJ:


Even the Bible that you think is fiction has records of atheists.

The fact is even if God should appear in the sky, you folks would still choose not to believe in his existence. You'd just regard him as some being, and also argue that there's no proof of Him being the only such being in space, and there's no proof that he authored creation.
awww... this should be for God to decide. Except you are saying he has ran out of ways to show common humans he exists... why is this even doubtable in the first place



How do I know this, well, since day in day out thousands of people experience the supernatural, yet the testimonies don't convince you, you're certainly lost and blinded beyond the fixing proofs can offer.
Now you are comparing the experiences of common humans like me with God showing himself in the sky? like seriously?
If a mad man tells you he is seeing people with three heads (thats supernatural experience right?)... will this convince you God exists?


This past month, a woman was dead in Bayelsa for 12 days and had already been embalmed. Her brother prayed that she would rise back to life and she did -After 12 days!!!
I hope she will now live forever, even the resurrector... You know, hanging around this guy will make sense, the guy will have my back whenever i die.


If such a testimony doesn't convince you of the existence of God, certainly nothing else will. It then would seem that you're bounded by an oath to never believe in God no matter how convincing the evidence is that you're presented with.
I fail to see how a woman waking up after 12 days(if this story is truooo) has got anything to do with the existence of God. If a woman waking up proves God exists, then people dying and never waking up should put doubts, dont u think?


Anyways, sha know hell is real, and it's a torment that'll last for more than a billion trillion years.

Love you sir, but God certainly does much more.
stop lying, hell cannot be real if u have never experience it. on what basis are u saying hell is real?

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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by budaatum: 12:08pm On May 12
dalaman:

When did the Gods become so powerless? I mean, when someone says "God", I'm expecting stuff from the first list, not something that's indistinguishable from an idea, made by humans and spread by humans.
Quite a lot of straw in your writeup Dalaman, all premised on your idea and expectations of Gods. I so wish you had asked "why human beings are so powerless that we need gods to fill the gaps in our ignorance".

Was watching Louis Theroux's My Scientology last night. Ron Hubbard literally created a god for people to bow down and worship. What better shows the incredible ability that human beings have than god creation? The only greater feat would be to create a universe, though I suppose creating a place in which to place that universe would be even greater. However, and still, how amazingly much more powerful we humans must be if we can create gods that can create a universe and a place in which to put it. The pity is we create them in our own most narrow puny image.

It is not gods that have become powerless, Dalaman. It is we humans that have become so much more powerful that we have stopped needing to write new fantastic stories about our gods. But in a jug halve empty kind of way, one could say humans' have just become powerless and incapable to write better modern day myths, or, perhaps understood that the word is the beginning, and that we can write things with them and be better off for it. Depending where one stands whilst looking.

Gods never existed or had any power. It was the powerlessness of humans that made us create gods and assign everything to them in a "we are not worthy to go up the mountain and look our gods in the face" kind of way. You however, are a fleshy testimony to the new improved human, and that hope exists for the rest of us.

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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by budaatum: 12:15pm On May 12
dalaman:


Jesus lied. You can NOT do anything they said Jesus did because his promise to you remains a lie lie promise. You can NOT do it.
I disagree. Jesus did not lie. Or rather, what is written about Jesus doings is not a lie. Humans are doing so much more than he is written to have done, including, raising the dead, feeding millions with tiny resources, and healing the amputee!
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by budaatum: 12:20pm On May 12
Primesky:

At the mention of the name of Jesus Christ, every knee shall bow.
Unfortunately, no one mentions the "name of Jesus Christ" these days or you'd have seen knees bowing.
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by budaatum: 12:26pm On May 12
plaetton:


And Jesus, alleged son of God, supposedly cured leppers and polio victims, but apparently forgot to inform them that these diseases were caused by germs
He did not forget to tell people these diseases were caused by germs! He taught that lesson with the phrase, “Be clean!
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by sassysure: 12:43pm On May 12
Powerful deities lose worth,power,relevance and are demystified immediately man who invented them looked the other way. Their powers lies on man to nurture them else the dust pan in your house become more relevant than they are.
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by plaetton: 2:00pm On May 12
budaatum:

He did not forget to tell people these diseases were caused by germs! He taught that lesson with the phrase, “Be clean!
Lol.
Good try friend.

But, Louis Pasteur did much greater for humanity by painstaking showing that indeed germs, not six or seven demons, were the primary causes of diseases ,and ultimately, death.
And humanity has not been the same ever since.

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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by dalaman: 2:12pm On May 12
budaatum:

I disagree. Jesus did not lie. Or rather, what is written about Jesus doings is not a lie. Humans are doing so much more than he is written to have done, including, raising the dead, feeding millions with tiny resources, and healing the amputee!

How many amputees do you know that have been healed in the name of Jesus?

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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by budaatum: 9:24pm On May 12
dalaman:


How many amputees do you know that have been healed in the name of Jesus?
Healed? Many. Stick a wheelchair under a double leg amputee and watch em 'walk'. And 'Jesus'? Yep, Jesus as knowledge and wisdom don it. But I guess when you say "Jesus", you mean the individual understood by most and not the one I mean.
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by budaatum: 9:30pm On May 12
plaetton:

Lol.
Good try friend.

But, Louis Pasteur did much greater for humanity by painstaking showing that indeed germs, not six or seven demons, were the primary causes of diseases ,and ultimately, death.
And humanity has not been the same ever since.
Louis Pasteur stood on the shoulders of those who went before him. And you think too highly of the humans who lived in Christ's time. Humanity got clean when he told them to clean up and humanity was not the same after. You just imagine what "be clean" would do to humans in Lagos. Malaria and typhoid, probably the two greatest killers of Nigerians, would instantly dissappear.

Love the lol by the way.
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by gensteejay(m): 6:37pm On May 16
Seun:
If Gods existed, and acted the way the holy books say, there would be no atheists. The video below makes the point very effectively:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhkPTQvMzQ
Great video. Religion is actually evil — I came to that conclusion after reading all Billyonaire's threads and OtemSapien's "The Doctrine of the UFOs."

But I feel atheism, just like religion, portrays ignorance. I feel spirituality and science are what one should embrace and religion, magic, miracle, etc. should be shunned.

What do you think about the Doctofus?

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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by Preciouzword: 7:43pm On May 16
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Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by ScienceWatch: 4:04pm On Jun 14
bloodofthelamb:


Wicked generation asking for a miracle. What you guys need is not a miracle but a new heart. A heart of flesh, a circumsized heart.

Even, if God should make an amputee grow back you will still not believe.
Very true. The greatest miracle is a renewed heart/spirit that is finally freed from SATANIC influence.
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by sonmvayina(m): 7:48pm On Jun 14
Most people have created a God in their own image.... So sad.
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by edicied: 8:04pm On Jun 14
dalaman:


Which among the great works written about Jesus have you done? Have you walked on water? Feed thousands with two fish and 5 bread? Healed an amputee? Raised the dead? Which one have you done? Stop telling lies.
He can cure Headache cheesy
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jun 14
You'll fight with all your MIGHT to prove a point before those that treat you without respect as a stranger, but when your MIGHTINESS has been declared both far and near all you need is to get public relation officers and reporters who will relate with people (subjects) and report defaulters under your jurisdiction for punishment. Reasonably you don't need to continue displaying your powers always,most especially before those who have heard so much about you.An highly intelligent,diplomatic,merciful,wise and virtuous KING won't always rush with vengeance to destroy HIS own subjects without carefully separating obedient subjects from rebels. If you're doubting HIS Eternal power and Gossip(Romans 1:20)we serving as HIS witnesses fully understands your feelings(Isaiah 43:10-12) HE has trained millions of US throughout the world to discuss freely with our neighbors about HIM.(Matthew 28:19,20)Please we are in your neighborhood and you are free to ask US any thought provoking question that comes to your mind!(1Peter 3:15)But we won't entertain questions posed for public audience and interference because we're interested in each individual as a person not the crowd. So be prepared to question US one on one and you'll be moved as you perceive the wisdom in Christianity. Act 26:28 Thanks!
Re: Why Are Gods So Powerless Nowadays? by dalaman: 9:47pm On Jun 14
edicied:
He can cure Headache cheesy

Imaginary headache.

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