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|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Bluebyrd: 7:52am On Oct 18|
PrideofLincoln1:Why should he denounce Qanon? Qanon are not a racist or violent hate group like the Antifa terrorists that your candidate has refused to condemn. Tell sleepy Joe to condemn Antifa.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Bluebyrd: 7:59am On Oct 18|
The first NY Post bombshell broke about a 100 hours ago and still no denial from Biden because it's all real, the emails are authentic.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Bluebyrd: 8:01am On Oct 18|
There is no authenticity to Joe Biden.
Corrupt Joe is a criminal!!
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:37am On Oct 18|
PrideofLincoln1:The colour in orange is the real result of votes by mail.Michigan does not account for party but minnet wouldn't know that.
He went to copy rubbish from Kayleigh Michigan that Biden will win comfortably
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Timiofak(m): 8:41am On Oct 18|
Don't mind him, it's strawman excuse. Mumu said it's mental masturbation. Lmao.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Timiofak(m): 8:43am On Oct 18|
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Timiofak(m): 8:44am On Oct 18|
If trump no jail am, go jail am.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by wirinet(m): 9:04am On Oct 18|
Trump is already planing his exit strategy;
I am sure he will flee to a country without extradition treaty with the US. First to come to mind will be Russia. Saudi Arabia might be an option. Also Serbia might be a good option as they have no extra extradition treaty with the US, and it's very close to his wife's home country of Slovenia.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Timiofak(m): 9:07am On Oct 18|
If he looses oooo, big if. Melania would leave him, I am 100% sure
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by CoronaVirusRelo(m): 9:15am On Oct 18|
Bro! Dont join anybody in the sty
Its easier to walk away,,,
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Konkoja: 9:30am On Oct 18|
I can understand having different political views - ideally, that enriches political discourse and governance. However, how can one support the shenanigans of this man? The views of those who worked closely with him point to only one position - he is not qualified to be the President. He is too flawed to occupy that position.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by obaaderemi: 9:42am On Oct 18|
wirinet:But I still don't think that guy will lose the election. Look at what happened in 2016. American politics and elections are just so funny. How could one lose the popular vote and win the election?
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by zendi: 9:59am On Oct 18|
There's no reasonable person that will not conclude, openly or silently, that the boy Rittenhouse acted in self defense.
Sorry about the two who died, but in my opinion, they committed suicide.
Their death was fleeing from them, and they chased it down.
If they felt the boy was totting gun illegally, they should have reported him to the Police who were present in the vicinity.
There's no doubt in my mind that the "Protesters" meant to disarm him, and then almost certainly use the gun on him.
We're watching from around the world.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by sexylassie(f): 10:06am On Oct 18|
Trump signed executive order banning CRITiCAL RACE THEORY.
What is Critical Race Theory.
that argues that social problems are influenced and created more by societal structures and cultural assumptions than by individual and psychological factors.
In order word Critical race theory says that Critical race the law and legal institutions are inherently racist and that race itself, instead of being biologically grounded and natural, is a socially constructed concept that is used by white people to further their economic and political interests at the expense of people of colour.
What a theory
Because of Critical Race Theory, people go to universities to study Diversity & Inclusion training where they teach people how to be anti American and also teach them that white people is the cause of their problems.
Below is a leftist complaining after trump executive orders banning CRT
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by obaaderemi: 10:07am On Oct 18|
zendi:What?!!!! Self defense, you say.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by zendi: 10:12am On Oct 18|
Yes, for the reasons stated.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:13am On Oct 18|
obaaderemi:American democracy is a mirage.
One has to win the electoral college which may not be the wishes of the people the American people elect their presidents indirectly that is why it is good to have a high turnout in states that can give you the electoral college.Because of the electoral college the democrats have lost the whitehouse 5 times that is why when the democrats win the whitehouse they win in high numbers and it is reflected in the electoral college that is why huge turnouts always favour the democrats.If not for the electoral college some of us will be 100% certain that his defeat is sure because Trump will not win the popular vote.
Hillary won him by 2.9 points if Biden gets up to 4 to 5 points in total votes he will win the electoral college as well.
Also let me inform you that Trump won 4 battlegrounds states that gave him the election by a slim margin of not up to 100 thousand votes it was a narrow victory you cannot compare it to the resounding victory Obama won in 2008 and 2012.A lot of factors favour Biden for now because there is a record high turnout already and a lot of voters who sat at home are already voting.The black and young voters especially these voters are reliably democratic voters and we are seeing them coming out.The truth is many voters still remember the shock of 2016 is making many voters not to take chances and ensure they vote either by mail or in person.So 2016 repeating itself again is very slim many thought Hillary had it in the bag and did not bother voting but not anymore nobody is underestimating Trump even the Biden campaign has warned of complacency.So when many votes especially in swing states democrats win.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by sexylassie(f): 10:16am On Oct 18|
Claremont Institute Chairman Thomas Klingenstein: Trump 2020: A Man vs. A Movement
Tom Klingenstein explains why 2020 may be the most consequential election since 1860—and why President Trump is the man most uniquely suited to the moment. Read his entire remarks from the October speech below, via American Greatness.
Klingenstein is a principal in the investment firm of Cohen, Klingenstein, LLC and the chairman of the Board of Directors of the Claremont Institute.
THOMAS KLINGENSTEIN: My name is Tom Klingenstein. I am the chair of the board of the Claremont Institute which is a conservative think tank, managing partner of a New York investment firm and playwright.
I wish to make three points. First, Trump is the perfect man for these times, not all times, perhaps not most times, but these times. Second, Republicans are not doing a good job explaining the stakes in this election. They must explain, and this is my third point, that the Democratic Party, which has been taken by its radical wing, is leading a revolution. This makes the coming election the most important one since the election of 1860. Let’s begin there.
Unlike most elections, this one is much more than a contest over particular policies—like health care or taxes. Rather, like the election of 1860, this election is a contest between two competing regimes, or ways of life. Two ways of life that cannot exist peacefully together.
One way of life, I’ll call it “the traditional American way of life,” is based on individual rights, the rule of law, and a shared understanding of the common good. This way of life values hard work, self-reliance, volunteerism, patriotism, and so on.
In this way of life there are no hyphenated Americans. We are all just Americans. Colorblindness is our aspiration.
The other way of life I call multiculturalism. Others call it “identity politics” or “cultural Marxism” or “Intersectionality”.
[b]The multicultural movement, which has taken over the Democratic party, is a revolutionary movement. I do not mean a metaphorical revolution. It is not like a revolution; it is a revolution, an attempt to overthrow the American Founding as President Trump said in his excellent Mt. Rushmore speech. [/b]Republicans should say the same thing. Republicans everywhere, at every level, and at every opportunity.
Multiculturalism conceives of society, not as a community of individuals with equal rights but as a collection of cultural identity groups—defined by race, ethnicity, gender, and so forth. According to the multiculturalists, all these identity groups are oppressed by white males.
Their goal is to have each identity group proportionally represented in all institutions of American society. As should be immediately clear, achieving this proportional representation requires a never-ending redistribution of wealth and power from some groups—and not just from whites—to other groups. Such a massive redistribution can only be achieved by a tyrannical government and like in all tyrannies, one where dissenters are silenced.
In order to achieve this proportional representation, the Democrats require not just endless affirmative action but genuine socialism, open borders, unrestricted trade, seizing guns, sanctuary cities, and much more.
The Black Lives Matter/Democrats understand (which Republicans seem not to), that if they are to achieve this policy agenda they must get Americans to change their values, their principles, and the way they understand themselves.
They must get us to believe that national borders and colorblindness are racist; that we are not one culture but many; that the most important thing in our history—the thing around which all else pivots—is slavery. More broadly, the multiculturalists must get us to believe that we are unworthy—not just that we have sinned (which of course we have)—but that we are irredeemably sinful, or, in the language of today, “systemically racist.” And sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic and all the other “ists” and phobias. Simply put, multiculturalism must get us to believe we are bad
This suggests one way to frame the coming election: as a contest between a man, Trump, who believes America is good and a man, Biden, who is controlled by a movement that believes America is bad. I do not think it is any more complicated than that.
For the multiculturalist to change traditional values and principles they must destroy, or radically restructure, the institutions that teach those values and principles. The most important of these institutions is family, but also very important is religion, education (which they have mostly destroyed already) and community life, replacing the latter with government bureaucrats. It is here—in these value-teaching institutions—that we see the underpinnings of the Revolution. This is where the real action is. Republicans seem to be missing in action.
Republicans need to explain that BLM and their Democratic enablers wish to destroy the traditional mother-father family. To substantiate this claim, Republicans have only to point to the BLM mission statement. The mission statement, written by avowed Marxists, also lets us know that BLM holds transgenderism to be the burning issue of our time.
Republicans must also explain that religion, because it teaches American values, is also on the chopping block.
Republicans also must make American see that the taking down of statues is not about removing a few confederate generals; it’s about destroying America’s past, as is the New York Times 1619 Project. The rioters, and their BLM-Democrats enablers, are tearing down the statues even of people like Frederick Douglass who fought against slavery. This is not an accident. It is not collateral damage. Frederick Douglass was a great American. He believed that America in her soul was not racist. He believed in hard work and self-reliance. And because of his embrace of American values the BLM-Democrats have to get rid of him.
They must also get rid of Abraham Lincoln, for it is he who best explains what we should aspire to. And it is he who is the best defender of the American Founding. In one sense, this election is a referendum on the Founding. Whether America was founded in 1619, as the BLM-Democrats contend, or, in 1776 as Lincoln, and, until recently, all Americans believed.
Republicans must make more of political correctness and cancel culture, which, as we have seen so vividly of late, brutally punishes apostates.
Who does Twitter think it is, censoring an American president? Republicans simply cannot stand for that.
And Republicans must explain, as I earlier explained, that the multiculturalists are trying to get us to believe that we are systemically racist so that we will surrender to their policy agenda. This too must not be allowed to stand. The American people need to hear what they know in their hearts: they are not racists. Republicans should stand up and say, “no, America is not racist.” Period.
If Americans are systemically anything, it is a systemic commitment to freedom and equal rights for all.
Perhaps most importantly, Republicans must say over and over that America is “incredible,” to use President Trump’s adjective of choice. They must remind the American people that, as a friend of mine is fond of saying, America has brought more freedom and more prosperity to more people than any country in the history of mankind. Most Americans know this, but this too they need to hear from their leaders.
In order to make the case that the Democrats are leading a revolution, Republicans must delegitimize Black Lives Matter—the organization, of course, not the sentiment. To BLM and their Democratic enablers, Republicans must say: “Absolutely, black lives matter. They just don’t matter to you. You don’t care about Mr. Floyd, the black businesses you have destroyed, the blacks who are getting killed because you have forced the police to back off. You’re here for destruction. Not black lives, not any lives.”
After delegitimizing Black Lives Matter, the next step for Republicans is to tie BLM’s revolutionary agenda around the necks of Democrats.
The BLM wing of the Democratic party has captured the entire party. Run-of-the-mill Democrats may not agree with all of the BLM agenda but they go-along, so they might as well agree. Joe Biden is one of the go-along Democrats.
So do not expect all Democrats to sing the BLM tune; even so, most will kneel before them.
Listen to Biden. On one occasion Biden said, “Let’s be clear, transgender equality is the civil rights issue of our time.” A year ago, Biden may not have even known what transgenderism is. He does not seem to know it, but he has been radicalized.
Biden now regularly talks about “systemic” racism. On one occasion Biden said, though without evidence, there is “absolutely systemic racism in law enforcement.” “[But] it’s not just in law enforcement,” he continued, “it’s across the board. It’s in housing, it’s in education . . . It’s in everything we do.”
He is wrong on every count, but if indeed he believes that racism is in “everything we do,” that it is systemic, then he believes, whether he admits or not, that the system must be overturned. Biden does not realize it, but he is calling for the overthrow of the American way of life. I presume that is not his intent, but when the words he is reading off his BLM teleprompter get translated into policy, that will be the consequence — the destruction of the American way of life.
Biden demurs. There is nothing to fear from Biden says Biden: “Do I look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters?” No, he does not, but what he does look like is a sap.
Republicans must make it clear that these are the “Biden riots.”
This brings me to my last point: Trump. I know President Trump has many faults. I myself sometimes cringe listening to him. Sometimes he is his own worst enemy. He is a braggart, often misinformed, petty, sometimes even vengeful. And more.
And yet, we are very lucky to have him. I am almost prepared to say that having him is Providential. How else to explain that we find ourselves with this most unusual, most unpresidential man who has just the attributes most needed for this moment. At any other time, he might well have been a bad president. But in these times—these revolutionary times—he is the best president we could have had.
He has the indispensable attribute of a leader: courage. As a leader must, he goes where others are afraid to go. And he has common sense, which means he generally wants to go to the right place.
Above all else, and above anyone else, Trump is committed to America. He is unreservedly, unquestionably pro-America. He feels no guilt for America’s past. He makes no apologies. He concedes nothing. These may not always be the attributes one wants in a President, but in this day of woke guilt they are the most essential things. And Trump has unlimited confidence in America. In this time of national doubt, this too is just what the doctor ordered. He thinks our culture is “incredible” and that’s the way he wants to keep it.
Trump not only thinks America is incredible, he knows we are in a fight for our lives.
And despite what one hears ad nauseum from the Democrats, Trump is perhaps among the least racist presidents we have ever had. Trump is not defending the white way of life; he is defending the American way of life, a colorblind way of life which is open to anyone who is willing to embrace it.
If we want to save our country, then we should support him—unequivocally. I am. I think this election is that important, and I think Trump is that good. I hope you agree.
Remember, Trump versus Biden is the choice between a man who believes America is good and a man who is controlled by a movement which believes America is bad.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Timiofak(m): 10:30am On Oct 18|
Here is my own analysis, Trump won 2016 electoral college by 306 electoral college votes, to Clinton's 232. This was not a landslide by any measure. Out of the 6 swing states he won them by razor-thin margins e.g Wisconsin by 0.7%, Pennsylvania by 0.7%, Michigan by only 0.3%, Florida by 1.2%. The total electoral college votes for this 4 states are 75 electoral college votes. As we can see Hillary was much hated compared to Biden, both the alt-right and the alt-left hated her, and there was a lot of voter suppression, also the undecided voters in 2016, where about 17% compared to this year's 6-7%, another advantage trump had in 2016 was he was a first-timer, some people hoped he would run the country like a businessman, which he didn't. Excluding all this my excuses, focusing on only facts, Biden needs to take everything Hillary did, which is fairly easy for him, with 2-3 swing states, 2 if one them is Florida, if Biden can by any possible means flip texas, that is the end of trump, no coming back. And as we can see there is a huge turn out of voters, record numbers. I am by no way saying trump or Biden would win, just stating facts.
Image showing 2016 votes below
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|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by OjoMadiba: 10:32am On Oct 18|
AmazonTopaz:You beginning to think, nice one... This is what makes you human, your ability to reason.
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|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:42am On Oct 18|
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by sexylassie(f): 11:06am On Oct 18|
Damn, you are savage.
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|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by sanpipita(m): 11:07am On Oct 18|
Where was your thinking when you said Trump will win landslide? did you drop any analysis to back it up, this is why they call you guys cons
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by sexylassie(f): 11:11am On Oct 18|
When people think American elections is by having the highest vote. I just laugh.
Some ignorant ones, have been posting how Democrats are all voting in doves and winning
America election is an electoral college election, it is not a popularity contest.
America elections are very strategic, that is why strategic key states matters a lot
Sometimes, you just laugh, when the naive ones who claim they live in America, do not understand American elections, anytime they type, they keep exposing their naivety.
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|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Timiofak(m): 11:18am On Oct 18|
Someone that doesn't know nothing, what analysis? She can't analyse? All what she is doing is too judge with her bias, because no person that can analyse would think trump would win in a landslide. It's a fallacy. Big one in fact, there is no indicator that he got popular outside his base, the only indicator we have is, his party has shrunk in recent years, his opponents party has increased in party registration and he doesn't have the benefit of doubt he had in 2016. But let's watch the build up.
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|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by sanpipita(m): 11:33am On Oct 18|
They have suddenly started lecturing us about electoral college when deep down they are sh1t scared, wonder when it will sink to them margins their cult leader won with especially in swing states are low and can be easily flipped.
If they are intelligent enough they will figure out Democrats are taking the battle to Trump and making inroads, swing states he won are tossed up and he has been pinned back and campaigning in these states which ordinary should be a walk over for a sitting president.
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|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Timiofak(m): 11:45am On Oct 18|
How can texas be in play for a Republican President is the question!!! Texas should be the GOP’s California,
Every election, Democrats know they have secured at least 150-200 electoral college votes, from California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, D.C, Maryland, Delaware, Connecticut, e.t.c. But yeah GOP are depending on voter suppression to press down texas, but let's watch the build up.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:54am On Oct 18|
Timiofak:By next week Harris county in Texas should be over 1.2 million votes.If Biden wins Harris county by over 70% and significant gains in collins,Travis,Denton,Dallas etc all these democratic strong holds seeing record turnout and the suburbs with high turnout Biden will win Texas.My hope is not on Texas but with the high turnout happening there it is possible maybe not this year but 2022,2024 latest 2028 the demographics have changed Texas will go blue the moment Texas goes blue the GOP is finished Texas will become a battleground and reliably blue state in future years.I read an article yesterday where it said that Texas was always slipping from the GOP since 2012 Trump's unpopularity there only escalated the flip along with the changing demographics.
Even if Biden does not win Texas it will be close and the democrats will very likely flip the Texas house if the race is close.
The GOP will be shaking their heads as to why they extended early voting by 6 days there 6 days of early voting will be enough to make a significant difference for the democrats in Texas.The young,black and women voters including latinos in Texas and Arizona are leaning democratic according to the stats coming out
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by Timiofak(m): 12:15pm On Oct 18|
Then the GOP cries foul, when tech companies like Google beg people to vote. Like voting isn't a civil duty.
|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by OjoMadiba: 12:34pm On Oct 18|
Obama is about to campaign for buy-den in person, and they say buy-den is winning all the polls?
If buy-den is winning why is Saint Obama coming out to campaign for his fellow.
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|Re: American Politics Thread - 2020 Election Cycle! by OjoMadiba: 12:38pm On Oct 18|
If Texas go blue, how about California going red... i think I like you, you are the only person I can reason with aside, all the wonderful Patriots here
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