Kophschmerzen:


Show us pictures like the ones from the past few days, or remain the brainless tool that you are destined to be.

Don't mind those two a*s licking fools. One is an Oshodi garage tout and the other is a clown from ritualistic village. None of the two clowns ever step their foot on American soil but they are experts on anything American. Bozo twins.

LordReed:


What exactly is your problem that you like to start with thinly veiled insults? Are you really so deficient you need this to compensate

Erm, what exactly did you mean by case in point?

stanech:

LoL, you've come again with your fake news. You take a picture that was about a completely different issue and make it seem like it's the same thing.

This picture was from a protest in Washington DC. Do illegal immigrants go to Washington DC to protest if they are in detention? LoL.

Kophschmerzen:


Show us pictures like the ones from the past few days, or remain the brainless tool that you are destined to be.

Several former Obama administration officials took to social media and news outlets on Tuesday to explain a gallery of years-old photos that showed immigrant children sleeping in shoddy conditions at a government-run holding facility in Arizona.

The images, which were first published by the Associated Press in 2014, resurfaced over the weekend for reasons that remain unclear, and quickly prompted viral outrage on Twitter. One particularly disturbing image showed two children sleeping on mattresses on the floor inside what appeared to be a cage.

A number of prominent liberals — and even a former Obama administration official — shared the photos in outrage, mistakenly believing they depicted the Trump administration's treatment of immigrant children who were forcibly separated from their parents.

Jon Favreau, who worked as a speechwriter for former President Barack Obama, tweeted, "This is happening right now, and the only debate that matters is how we force our government to get these kids back to their families as fast as humanly possible."

Favreau said Tuesday he later deleted the tweet after social media users pointed out that the photos were taken during the Obama administration. But by that point, critics had already rushed to accuse him of concealing Obama's own harsh immigration tactics while condemning Trump's.


http://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5?IR=T



Cc: LordReed
Stanech

Timbuktuo:


Erm, what exactly did you mean by case in point?

It means your post was a prime example of not realising the difference between deporting illegals and dehumanising them. You are saying Obama did the same thing what Obama did was deport illegals without calling them drug dealers and rapists, without painting them as undesirables because they entered the US illegally.

LordReed:


It means your post was a prime example of not realising the difference between deporting illegals and dehumanising them. You are saying Obama did the same thing what Obama did was deport illegals without calling them drug dealers and rapists, without painting them as undesirables because they entered the US illegally.

Keep showing that guy the light of the truth. How can someone have his head in his a*s supporting a well known racist.

LordReed:


It means your post was a prime example of not realising the difference between deporting illegals and dehumanising them. You are saying Obama did the same thing what Obama did was deport illegals without calling them drug dealers and rapists, without painting them as undesirables because they entered the US illegally.

Well, rapists and drug dealers make up a large number of border crossers, don't they? How come you cannot remember Trump saying some of those who cross the border are, indeed, fine people?

He wants to eliminate border crossings because many of those who immigrate that way cannot be monitored like those who have come in the proper way. Many of them commit cromes and run back across the border or move to another part of the States, effectively evading law enforcement.

The real difference between them both is that Trump is bold enough to tell why he wants tighten immigration control while Obama wasn't.

Timbuktuo:


Several former Obama administration officials took to social media and news outlets on Tuesday to explain a gallery of years-old photos that showed immigrant children sleeping in shoddy conditions at a government-run holding facility in Arizona.

The images, which were first published by the Associated Press in 2014, resurfaced over the weekend for reasons that remain unclear, and quickly prompted viral outrage on Twitter. One particularly disturbing image showed two children sleeping on mattresses on the floor inside what appeared to be a cage.

A number of prominent liberals — and even a former Obama administration official — shared the photos in outrage, mistakenly believing they depicted the Trump administration's treatment of immigrant children who were forcibly separated from their parents.

Jon Favreau, who worked as a speechwriter for former President Barack Obama, tweeted, "This is happening right now, and the only debate that matters is how we force our government to get these kids back to their families as fast as humanly possible."

Favreau said Tuesday he later deleted the tweet after social media users pointed out that the photos were taken during the Obama administration. But by that point, critics had already rushed to accuse him of concealing Obama's own harsh immigration tactics while condemning Trump's.


http://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5?IR=T



Cc: LordReed
Stanech

Oh no. Obama can do no wrong

Timbuktuo:


Several former Obama administration officials took to social media and news outlets on Tuesday to explain a gallery of years-old photos that showed immigrant children sleeping in shoddy conditions at a government-run holding facility in Arizona.

The images, which were first published by the Associated Press in 2014, resurfaced over the weekend for reasons that remain unclear, and quickly prompted viral outrage on Twitter. One particularly disturbing image showed two children sleeping on mattresses on the floor inside what appeared to be a cage.

A number of prominent liberals — and even a former Obama administration official — shared the photos in outrage, mistakenly believing they depicted the Trump administration's treatment of immigrant children who were forcibly separated from their parents.

Jon Favreau, who worked as a speechwriter for former President Barack Obama, tweeted, "This is happening right now, and the only debate that matters is how we force our government to get these kids back to their families as fast as humanly possible."

Favreau said Tuesday he later deleted the tweet after social media users pointed out that the photos were taken during the Obama administration. But by that point, critics had already rushed to accuse him of concealing Obama's own harsh immigration tactics while condemning Trump's.


http://www.businessinsider.com/migrant-children-in-cages-2014-photos-explained-2018-5?IR=T



Cc: LordReed
Stanech

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/ stop posting rubbish


The rumors correctly suggested that “family detention” as a whole came before the Trump administration, but as of August 2015 intact families at the border were rarely separated. Other iterations of the rumor held that the Obama administration separated more children from their parents than the Trump administration, a claim stemming from an inaccurate retelling of the fact that an influx of unaccompanied minors from Latin America crossed the border in from 2014 onward. In those instances, minor children primarily traveled without their parents.

Timbuktuo:


Well, rapists and drug dealers make up a large number of border crossers, don't they?

You have facts to back that up?

How come you cannot remember Trump saying some of those who cross the border are, indeed, fine people?

Without facts to back up the claim that drug dealers and rapists makeup the bulk of illegal crossers then his statement is a mere dog whistle to racists.

He wants to eliminate border crossings because many of those who immigrate that way cannot be monitored like those who have come in the proper way. Many of them commit cromes and run back across the border or move to another part of the States, effectively evading law enforcement.

The real difference between them both is that Trump is bold enough to tell why he wants tighten immigration control while Obama wasn't.

What proper way? Do you know the proper way to seek for asylum? Enter the US then apply which means a person can show up at a US border and declare their intention to seek asylum, you do need to go to an embassy first to do it.

Illegal immigration has been dropping since 2015, making it seem like Obama did nothing is plain fiction. Fact remains Trump is simply dog whistling to racists because he thinks it buys him favour with his base and indeed it is regardless of what he actually does or accomplishes.

Kophschmerzen:


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/ stop posting rubbish


The rumors correctly suggested that “family detention” as a whole came before the Trump administration, but as of August 2015 intact families at the border were rarely separated. Other iterations of the rumor held that the Obama administration separated more children from their parents than the Trump administration, a claim stemming from an inaccurate retelling of the fact that an influx of unaccompanied minors from Latin America crossed the border in from 2014 onward. In those instances, minor children primarily traveled without their parents.

As of 2015, rare separations.



Families crossing the border: 'We are not criminals'




Yanira Lopez thought she and her three children had finally left the worst behind: the fear and uncertainty of a perilous journey from their native Guatemala to the United States border; the harrowing day she lost her children for five hours somewhere in an unknown land.
But when the family reached the US border in Matamoros, Mexico, in February 2015, a sense of hope replaced the confusion and apprehension. The seemingly endless line of people waiting to cross over into Brownsville, Texas, was unlike anything they had seen. When the Lopez family's turn came, Yanira Lopez simply told a US immigration officer: "We came here for your help, to get asylum."
The officer wrote down their information. Lopez said she relaxed for the first time in the long journey. Finally, they had arrived, escaping the crime and violence that made Guatemala one of the dangerous countries in the world.
They were given hamburgers and Hershey chocolates. Lopez imagined a joyous reunion with relatives in the US. A short time later, they boarded a bus.
"We couldn't even imagine where they were taking us," Lopez said.

The family reunion was not to be. Not yet, at least. After a night locked in a temporary holding facility, the Lopez family was transported to another unknown detention center where they would languish for two months.
Despite aggressive US government efforts to stem the flow of Central American migrants crossing the border, more and more families are following the footsteps of Lopez and her children.
Lopez arrived one year after the unprecedented 2014 wave of unaccompanied minors and families that crossed the border in what activist called a humanitarian crisis.

The Obama Administration responded to the 2014 crisis by opening two large family detention centers in Texas: The Karnes County and the South Texas Family Residential Center.
The initial goal was to deter new families from coming. Instead, the stream of incoming families is growing. Two years ago, 68,445 family units (people who come in groups of two or more family members) were apprehended at the border. In fiscal year 2016 that total swelled to 77,674, according to the US Border Patrol.


http://archive.is/zE2uY

LordReed:


You have facts to back that up?



Without facts to back up the claim that drug dealers and rapists makeup the bulk of illegal crossers then his statement is a mere dog whistle to racists.



What proper way? Do you know the proper way to seek for asylum? Enter the US then apply which means a person can show up at a US border and declare their intention to seek asylum, you do need to go to an embassy first to do it.

Illegal immigration has been dropping since 2015, making it seem like Obama did nothing is plain fiction. Fact remains Trump is simply dog whistling to racists because he thinks it buys him favour with his base and indeed it is regardless of what he actually does or accomplishes.

Authorities say most claims for asylum are false. Hence, the renewed vigour in assessing asum claims. Authorities claim immigrants are coming to the border with little kids who aren't theirs in order to exploit the loophole inherent in the system. I myself know a Nigerian who lied she was running from Boko Haram and was seeing asylum. This person lived in Surulere. Is that not gaming the system?

Meanwhile, do you have facts that debunk the claim?

Is that how Obama dogwhistled in his own tenure? Or is it ok for Obama and not for Trump?

Timbuktuo:


As of 2015, rare separations.



Families crossing the border: 'We are not criminals'




Yanira Lopez thought she and her three children had finally left the worst behind: the fear and uncertainty of a perilous journey from their native Guatemala to the United States border; the harrowing day she lost her children for five hours somewhere in an unknown land.
But when the family reached the US border in Matamoros, Mexico, in February 2015, a sense of hope replaced the confusion and apprehension. The seemingly endless line of people waiting to cross over into Brownsville, Texas, was unlike anything they had seen. When the Lopez family's turn came, Yanira Lopez simply told a US immigration officer: "We came here for your help, to get asylum."
The officer wrote down their information. Lopez said she relaxed for the first time in the long journey. Finally, they had arrived, escaping the crime and violence that made Guatemala one of the dangerous countries in the world.
They were given hamburgers and Hershey chocolates. Lopez imagined a joyous reunion with relatives in the US. A short time later, they boarded a bus.
"We couldn't even imagine where they were taking us," Lopez said.

The family reunion was not to be. Not yet, at least. After a night locked in a temporary holding facility, the Lopez family was transported to another unknown detention center where they would languish for two months.
Despite aggressive US government efforts to stem the flow of Central American migrants crossing the border, more and more families are following the footsteps of Lopez and her children.
Lopez arrived one year after the unprecedented 2014 wave of unaccompanied minors and families that crossed the border in what activist called a humanitarian crisis.

The Obama Administration responded to the 2014 crisis by opening two large family detention centers in Texas: The Karnes County and the South Texas Family Residential Center.
The initial goal was to deter new families from coming. Instead, the stream of incoming families is growing. Two years ago, 68,445 family units (people who come in groups of two or more family members) were apprehended at the border. In fiscal year 2016 that total swelled to 77,674, according to the US Border Patrol.


http://archive.is/zE2uY

Stop boring me with bullsh1t niggaar. Did the Obama administration took kids to custody ? Yes. But separating kids from parent? Nah. Stop boring me with right wing propaganda horsecrap.

Kophschmerzen:


Stop boring me with bullsh1t niggaar. Did the Obama administration took kids to custody ? Yes. But separating kids from parent? Nah. Stop boring me with right wing propaganda horsecrap.

Comprehension is an obvious disability for you. Good bye, child.

Timbuktuo:


Comprehension is an obvious disability for you. Good bye, child.

Says the slowpoke slumping on falsehood from the commune of hilly billies. If you had a comparative I.Q test against four meerkats, you'd come fifth. Why don't you f***k off and go get euthanized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxQakCUG_CM

Timbuktuo:


Authorities say most claims for asylum are false. Hence, the renewed vigour in assessing asum claims. Authorities claim immigrants are coming to the border with little kids who aren't theirs in order to exploit the loophole inherent in the system. I myself know a Nigerian who lied she was running from Boko Haram and was seeing asylum. This person lived in Surulere. Is that not gaming the system?

Meanwhile, do you have facts that debunk the claim?

Is that how Obama dogwhistled in his own tenure? Or is it ok for Obama and not for Trump?

You made a claim, back it up with facts not anecdotes. All the people I know who have sort immigration to the US did so legally.

When did Obama say most illegal immigrants are drug pushers and rapists? You keep making claims you cannot back up with facts.

Kophschmerzen:


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/ stop posting rubbish


The rumors correctly suggested that “family detention” as a whole came before the Trump administration, but as of August 2015 intact families at the border were rarely separated. Other iterations of the rumor held that the Obama administration separated more children from their parents than the Trump administration, a claim stemming from an inaccurate retelling of the fact that an influx of unaccompanied minors from Latin America crossed the border in from 2014 onward. In those instances, minor children primarily traveled without their parents.

Damage control. Lets spin it now to our favour. Snopes.com is a great source. And yet Obama's ex officials have been defending him since the day the news came out.

Timbuktuo:


Comprehension is an obvious disability for you. Good bye, child.

You have to stop trying. Lucas is lost

Timbuktuo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxQakCUG_CM

They still wont believe despite all the evidence. In their mind Obama is God

10 Poorest Cities in America - % below poverty level

1. Detroit 32.5%
2. Buffalo 29.9%
3. Cincinnati 27.8%
4. Cleveland 27.0%
5. Miami 26.9%
5. St. Louis 26.8%
7. El Paso 26.4%
8. Milwaukee 26.2%
9. Philadelphia 25.1%
10. Newark 24.2%

Just because your child gets across the border that doesn't mean your child gets to stay"

- Hillary Clinton 2014


https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1008843955407085574/video/1

You have no chance of being detained for crossing the border illegally if you don’t cross the border illegally. You also have no chance of being separated from your children for breaking immigration laws if you don’t break immigration laws. Facts are hard.

stanech:


Damage control. Lets spin it now to our favour. Snopes.com is a great source. And yet Obama's ex officials have been defending him since the day the news came out.

Please f***k off loser, Washington Post did a comprehensive analysis on the Obama handling and the present heartless policy. You can do well to google it and save me from your dumbassery.

DHS Secretary Nielsen: "Parents who entered illegally are by definition criminals ... By entering our country illegally, often in dangerous circumstances, illegal immigrants have put their children at risk"

Kophschmerzen:


Please f***k off loser, Washington Post did a comprehensive analysis on the Obama handling and the present heartless policy. You can do well to google it and save me from your dumbassery.

Lol

DHS Secretary Nielsen: "Parents who entered illegally are by definition criminals ... By entering our country illegally, often in dangerous circumstances, illegal immigrants have put their children at risk"

stanech:


Lol

DHS Secretary Nielsen: "Parents who entered illegally are by definition criminals ... By entering our country illegally, often in dangerous circumstances, illegal immigrants have put their children at risk"

My problem with losers like you in Africa, is the fact that y'all endorsed racism. The whole immigration debate is about the fear of the obvious minority status of white America. But stupidity had anaal s3x with insanity to birth y'all reetards, so y'all are so lost, even if the reality is slapped on ya face, y'all will still come up short.

Kophschmerzen:


My problem with losers like you in Africa, is the fact that y'all endorsed racism. The whole immigration debate is about the fear of the obvious minority status of white America. But stupidity had anaal s3x with insanity to birth y'all reetards, so y'all are so lost, even if the reality is slapped on ya face, y'all will still come up short.

There are only 4 options:

1. Separate the families while the parents are detained.
2. Just let the adults and parents go free.
3. Build family camps at the border where they can stay together.
4. Don't let them in to begin with.

#'s 1, 2, & 3 are disasters. I pick #4.

Again Trump is right

stanech:



There are only 4 options:

1. Separate the families while the parents are detained.
2. Just let the adults and parents go free.
3. Build family camps at the border where they can stay together.
4. Don't let them in to begin with.

#'s 1, 2, & 3 are disasters. I pick #4.

Again Trump is right

Bulllshhitt and f***k off, when will your fuhrer start arresting Europeans over staying there visa.

Kophschmerzen:


Bulllshhitt and f***k off, when will your fuhrer start arresting Europeans over staying there visa.

To be clear: 80% of these migrant children came without parents. They separated from their families and then came across the border

And this was in the IG reporrt. " crime against children'