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Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by dealslip(f): 12:26pm On May 18, 2018
Gratefulheart1:

You mentioned about 6yrs rape and other stuffs. If you agree with me or not, one fact is, when it comes to sex, woman is the centre subject of the whole thing. One question is, in the olden days when women respect themselves, are things the way it is today? Men have always been available to mess with ladies, if you want to useless yourself, men are ready, if you also value yourself, men will learn to have self control. No much a value to the sexual chastity of a man like that of a woman, that's why a lady has virginity or loseness measurement but you can't tell if a man is virgin or lose from his sex organ. I heard about ladies selling their virginity for millions, no body pays for the virginity of a guy, no one even gives a fuuuck about him. So, each gender has it's advantages and disadvantages. So, you people should see the special life you have, and stop comparing yourselves to men. That is why the focus of sexual immorality will also be on women. If women dress well and maintain decency and sexual cleanness, that will clean the society. Men too will be forced to control themselves. "Women are the ones who have the sexual control over men." But the level of indecency is high now, sexual perversion of many men raised by the indecency of women, that's why a man will see a kid as a sex object and want to abuse her. That's just the fact. When it comes to sexual immorality, the women will be the ones to really blame, because they are the ones in charge and control of the mind of the man.
once again, you have missed the point. my objective is not to compare gender here. my objective is to show that dignity or chastity is not the job of women alone. if you keep claiming women should respect this or that then you need to tell me who should maintain dignity among two gay men. the activity is SEX, it is performed by two individuals. Every gender complements each other, they are not superior or inferior to each other neither do they have disadvantages. For heaven sake the religious books, traditional books and the constitution do not separate women as the custodian of Chastity, the men are equal custodian. Stop talking about the olden days, the society was guided by laws if which you went against, you will be punished severely whether male or female. Women don't control the mind of men sexually, this is complete error. the men are in charge of their mind. Stop this annoying concept of women raising indecent men, it is balderdash. Some men leave their wives and go pay prostitutes, some men sleep with their children, some men rape babies and innocent. Is this because they were raised by indecent women? The focus of sexual immorality on women is both stupid, senseless and foolish. It is like been unaccountable for your stealing. The society has become so lazy, it expects the woman to train a man to become what exactly - a woman?. A Father is admonished in the Bible and Quran to train his children but it has been pushed to the woman, whereby Fathers dump their duty and then starts avoiding accountability. Everyone is saddled with the responsibility of decency and chastity not just the female folks. The male folks arent some dumb folks who are controlled with remote control. Stop putting the men folk down. Charity they say begins at home - the parents to be precise which are a Father and a Mother.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Bryan88(m): 12:42pm On May 18, 2018
forreelinc:

AH i no dey f*ck man o
NIGGA WHO GO LEAVE TOTO WEY DEY SWT LYK SUGAR GO DEY F*CK MAN? WHEN I SAID I GAT MY EYES ON U, I MEANT I DEY READ UP UR MUMU POSTS SINCE NOT JST DIS 1 AND U REALLY FUNNY...SO NO DEY REASON GAY-ISM COS I AINT 1 & WIL NEVER BE.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by enemyofprogress: 12:44pm On May 18, 2018
Maybe JJ is a chair holder, him follow do the thing and so he went to possess his possession
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by usagee36: 1:26pm On May 18, 2018
He makes ugly kids
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Nobody: 2:13pm On May 18, 2018
dealslip:

once again, you have missed the point. my objective is not to compare gender here. my objective is to show that dignity or chastity is not the job of women alone. if you keep claiming women should respect this or that then you need to tell me who should maintain dignity among two gay men. the activity is SEX, it is performed by two individuals. Every gender complements each other, they are not superior or inferior to each other neither do they have disadvantages. For heaven sake the religious books, traditional books and the constitution do not separate women as the custodian of Chastity, the men are equal custodian. Stop talking about the olden days, the society was guided by laws if which you went against, you will be punished severely whether male or female. Women don't control the mind of men sexually, this is complete error. the men are in charge of their mind. Stop this annoying concept of women raising indecent men, it is balderdash. Some men leave their wives and go pay prostitutes, some men sleep with their children, some men rape babies and innocent. Is this because they were raised by indecent women? The focus of sexual immorality on women is both stupid, senseless and foolish. It is like been unaccountable for your stealing. The society has become so lazy, it expects the woman to train a man to become what exactly - a woman?. A Father is admonished in the Bible and Quran to train his children but it has been pushed to the woman, whereby Fathers dump their duty and then starts avoiding accountability. Everyone is saddled with the responsibility of decency and chastity not just the female folks. The male folks arent some dumb folks who are controlled with remote control. Stop putting the men folk down. Charity they say begins at home - the parents to be precise which are a Father and a Mother.

First, don't see my post as a debate to support men, i try to be neutral and unbiased, that's why I've mentioned good sides of both genders but if you still want to defend your gender, it's cool but the truth is always there. Yes, your 100% right, dignity is not the job or expected from only women. Men too are expected to have dignity and respect themselves and also ensure dignity in the society. No gender is inferior or superior but one gender is not exactly the same as the other. That's a fact. Physiologically, anatomy, appearance, role in the society and everything, the genders are the same in some aspects and different in some other aspects and agree with it or not, each gender carry some advantage in some aspect and disadvantage in some others aspects, that's why a gender may seek for equality and whatever related issues. Although they are all things we have to live with happily, i only use the word advantage or disadvantage for purpose of this post. The society is morally decayed not the fault of women and nobody will blame a woman for two men that are gay. Society even focuses and condemns gay more than lesbians. It's because to me it's still easier for lesbians than a man to have sex activity with other men. So people blame men for gay-ism and condemns it. Nobody blames women for that. But when it comes to general sexual immorality, it's still more hinged on the side of women than men. Both are responsible and to be blamed but it still hinged on one side than other. No constitution or holy book or traditional book have to tell you this. Our instinct and nature tells us, same way a woman knows the role of a mother and a man the role of a father. And if you still don't want to agree, I'll explain again although i've explained this before. Men can still be a little bit careless or wayward or rough with their lives but not so with woman. The kind of carefulness you expect from a man, you may not really expect from a man. Therefore if women play their roles well, men will be forced to curtail their natural careless nature and also have a forced self control. Moreover, sexual behavior is different in both genders. You can't compare the effect an indecent dressed lady have on men to that an indecent man will have. Is there even anything like indecent dressed man like that, who really cares about what a man wears? Why are there more female prostitutes or mainly female prostitutes? Why is it women who get paid after sex? Why are indecent clothes more produced for women and not men? Why is it that nude ladies will be used to entice and advertise and not men? Why is it that body of women are more adored, focused on, talked about, than the body of men? Why is it that when sexual manipulation is needed, women are used to achieve this? Why? It's because when it comes to sex, women are the major subject, they are the ones with more influence and control. Everyone know this, i still don't know why you're trying to debate this again. It's not about bringing up a child or the fault of parents per-see. The main issue now is the society influence on individual and individual influence on the society. Parents may try but each individual have rights these days to live their lives the way they want. If women know their value and role and keep their dignity, things will get fixed up. Each gender have it's natural responsibility and things we naturally blame each gender for. It's just a matter of accepting your responsibility. If it involves crime, insecurity related waywardness, that naturally hinges on the side of men but when it's about sexual immorality, it may hinge on the side of women but women however don't want to accept that, they think it's cheating their gender and partiality bla bla bla bla. Anyway, some things are natural and spontaneous, no matter how you argue it, it will still natural hinge to one side than the other because that's the way it really is.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Ugosample(m): 2:49pm On May 18, 2018
CSTR1003:

Someone that got impregnated after a one night stand is called what?

It is not like wizkid is an unknown guy that came in, promised her love and marriage, swept her off her feet and impregnated her.

Wizkid A Star boy, already had baby mamas which I am sure she knew about.

Don't say what you don't know

The mother of this child was not impregnated via one night stand

She was (probably still is) his manager, and from there, they hit it off

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Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by dealslip(f): 3:01pm On May 18, 2018
Gratefulheart1:


First, don't see my post as a debate to support men, i try to be neutral and unbiased, that's why I've mentioned good sides of both genders but if you still want to defend your gender, it's cool but the truth is always there. Yes, your 100% right, dignity is not the job or expected from only women. Men too are expected to have dignity and respect themselves and also ensure dignity in the society. No gender is inferior or superior but one gender is not exactly the same as the other. That's a fact. Physiologically, anatomy, appearance, role in the society and everything, the genders are the same in some aspects and different in some other aspects and agree with it or not, each gender carry some advantage in some aspect and disadvantage in some others aspects, that's why a gender may seek for equality and whatever related issues. Although they are all things we have to live with happily, i only use the word advantage or disadvantage for purpose of this post. The society is morally decayed not the fault of women and nobody will blame a woman for two men that are gay. Society even focuses and condemns gay more than lesbians. It's because to me it's still easier for lesbians than a man to have sex activity with other men. So people blame men for gay-ism and condemns it. Nobody blames women for that. But when it comes to general sexual immorality, it's still more hinged on the side of women than men. Both are responsible and to be blamed but it still hinged on one side than other. No constitution or holy book or traditional book have to tell you this. Our instinct and nature tells us, same way a woman knows the role of a mother and a man the role of a father. And if you still don't want to agree, I'll explain again although i've explained this before. Men can still be a little bit careless or wayward or rough with their lives but not so with woman. The kind of carefulness you expect from a man, you may not really expect from a man. Therefore if women play their roles well, men will be forced to curtail their natural careless nature and also have a forced self control. Moreover, sexual behavior is different in both genders. You can't compare the effect an indecent dressed lady have on men to that an indecent man will have. Is there even anything like indecent dressed man like that, who really cares about what a man wears? Why are there more female prostitutes or mainly female prostitutes? Why is it women who get paid after sex? Why are indecent clothes more produced for women and not men? Why is it that nude ladies will be used to entice and advertise and not men? Why is it that body of women are more adored, focused on, talked about, than the body of men? Why is it that when sexual manipulation is needed, women are used to achieve this? Why? It's because when it comes to sex, women are the major subject, they are the ones with more influence and control. Everyone know this, i still don't know why you're trying to debate this again. It's not about bringing up a child or the fault of parents per-see. The main issue now is the society influence on individual and individual influence on the society. Parents may try but each individual have rights these days to live their lives the way they want. If women know their value and role and keep their dignity, things will get fixed up. Each gender have it's natural responsibility and things we naturally blame each gender for. It's just a matter of accepting your responsibility. If it involves crime, insecurity related waywardness, that naturally hinges on the side of men but when it's about sexual immorality, it may hinge on the side of women but women however don't want to accept that, they think it's cheating their gender and partiality bla bla bla bla. Anyway, some things are natural and spontaneous, no matter how you argue it, it will still natural hinge to one side than the other because that's the way it really is.

No I still disagree with you. There is no disadvantage in any gender, men are not dumb creatures who are pressed like remote control sexually, I feel infuriated when you portray men as weak and having no control over themselves. It only makes it look like men are weak minded. You see the society shapes how people are viewed but you don't necessarily have to agree or live by such perception. My Husband determined in his heart not to defile himself before marriage and he was successful. My brother in law is a randy man and a smooth operator but they were raised by the same woman. Lack of sexual control is a thing of the mind, many men are taught about sexuality by their peers albeit poor orientation by such peers so also women. Things like if you can sleep with a girl, it means you are now a man. What happened after final exams in secondary schools in Lagos, boys will chase girls and rape them to prove their rite of manhood. The proliferation of porn materials, movie and music producers/mafia who falsely depict sex, drugs and money as signs of success all shape the mind of young people. This was absent in the olden days and are reasons you should be pointing at not women who God sculpted beautifully. I am not in any argument about women and men but that everyone should accept responsibility and consequences for what they do. The entire society is degenerated let us face the cause and effect not pretending it is because women suddenly decided to throw dignity away. The young girls who are in Hijab and kidnapped in the North and forcefully raped were not indecent they were victims of a society that didn't nip delinquency in the bud before it got out of hand. Please change your mind, you would have daughters or already have. She isnt/wasn't born with a natural sense that she should uphold decency, it is your duty as a parent to guide your children not the society. Also teach our sons to see women as God's wonderful master piece and treated so.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by blessingsonflee(f): 4:41pm On May 18, 2018
Obinna252:
pretty lady can you dm me your number? I have an issue to discuss with you
Let me give you my pastors number . He helps people solve their issues. kiss
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by ChidiAlaigbo: 4:58pm On May 18, 2018
StaffofOrayan:
We both know you are a broke ass


Self consolation! I am far from a broke ass.

I have houses in Lagos, cars, millions of naira shares, bank balance. Same abroad, so dont open that igbotic empty pride gutter mouth to spit your akpu on me.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Nobody: 5:09pm On May 18, 2018
dealslip:

No I still disagree with you. There is no disadvantage in any gender, men are not dumb creatures who are pressed like remote control sexually, I feel infuriated when you portray men as weak and having no control over themselves. It only makes it look like men are weak minded. You see the society shapes how people are viewed but you don't necessarily have to agree or live by such perception. My Husband determined in his heart not to defile himself before marriage and he was successful. My brother in law is a randy man and a smooth operator but they were raised by the same woman. Lack of sexual control is a thing of the mind, many men are taught about sexuality by their peers albeit poor orientation by such peers so also women. Things like if you can sleep with a girl, it means you are now a man. What happened after final exams in secondary schools in Lagos, boys will chase girls and rape them to prove their rite of manhood. The proliferation of porn materials, movie and music producers/mafia who falsely depict sex, drugs and money as signs of success all shape the mind of young people. This was absent in the olden days and are reasons you should be pointing at not women who God sculpted beautifully. I am not in any argument about women and men but that everyone should accept responsibility and consequences for what they do. The entire society is degenerated let us face the cause and effect not pretending it is because women suddenly decided to throw dignity away. The young girls who are in Hijab and kidnapped in the North and forcefully raped were not indecent they were victims of a society that didn't nip delinquency in the bud before it got out of hand. Please change your mind, you would have daughters or already have. She isnt/wasn't born with a natural sense that she should uphold decency, it is your duty as a parent to guide your children not the society. Also teach our sons to see women as God's wonderful master piece and treated so.

As long as a a thing can be less effective or more effective in one aspect than another, there will be advantages or disadvantages. Some conditions favor men than women, others favor women more than men. That's the life we live in, we only learn to adapt and utilize who we are so as to cope with any disadvantage. Anyway, that's not part of the point and i'm not saying weakness or no self-control is a disadvantage of a man; NO, i think you misunderstand that. Using the word advantage/disadvantage is only for ladies who claim women should also be able to live careless rough sexual lives like men and people should not complain. Wayward rough life fits no gender but a rough life may still fit a man more than a woman, and people may not condemn him much but more sexual purity is expected from and befits a woman because she's a woman, that's why people will talk, some ladies see this as disadvantage. So, that's what brought issue of advantage/disadvantage. It was just a reply to your statement that people blame ladies being impregnated and not tuface etc who fuuucks them. A man can live rough and people may not complain but he is not also regarded with special dignity and value attached to a woman; women are expected to live dignified and they are also given special treatment and value in life. In a civilized society, two set of human expected to have preferential and special treatments are CHILDREN and WOMEN. Man deserves no special treatment. Especially when it comes to more sexual issues, women are even more precious. So, no one really cares much about a man, reason why he also has advantage of doing some things and people will not talk much, everyone sees woman as special and regard her with dignity, if she does same thing the man did, people will point fingers at her. That is what ladies complain about and regard as gender disadvantage and inequality. Wanting to live rough like a man and be regarded with the honor of a virtuous woman. That's pure confusion there. You pick one, if you want same freedom as men to live rough lives, then don't expect to be treated like a woman or queen, rather, expect to be addressed and treated roughly.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Nobody: 5:10pm On May 18, 2018
dealslip:

No I still disagree with you. There is no disadvantage in any gender, men are not dumb creatures who are pressed like remote control sexually, I feel infuriated when you portray men as weak and having no control over themselves. It only makes it look like men are weak minded. You see the society shapes how people are viewed but you don't necessarily have to agree or live by such perception. My Husband determined in his heart not to defile himself before marriage and he was successful. My brother in law is a randy man and a smooth operator but they were raised by the same woman. Lack of sexual control is a thing of the mind, many men are taught about sexuality by their peers albeit poor orientation by such peers so also women. Things like if you can sleep with a girl, it means you are now a man. What happened after final exams in secondary schools in Lagos, boys will chase girls and rape them to prove their rite of manhood. The proliferation of porn materials, movie and music producers/mafia who falsely depict sex, drugs and money as signs of success all shape the mind of young people. This was absent in the olden days and are reasons you should be pointing at not women who God sculpted beautifully. I am not in any argument about women and men but that everyone should accept responsibility and consequences for what they do. The entire society is degenerated let us face the cause and effect not pretending it is because women suddenly decided to throw dignity away. The young girls who are in Hijab and kidnapped in the North and forcefully raped were not indecent they were victims of a society that didn't nip delinquency in the bud before it got out of hand. Please change your mind, you would have daughters or already have. She isnt/wasn't born with a natural sense that she should uphold decency, it is your duty as a parent to guide your children not the society. Also teach our sons to see women as God's wonderful master piece and treated so.
My point is not about the woman/father parent who brings up the children, it's rather about ladies generally in the society. Please get that. You claim i portray men as weak or dumb sexually. Also, example of two different brothers raised by same mothers. Well, i also stated earlier than it's an individual thing, and also a society thing. Many factors may influence a particular situation but out of the factors, we will have major factors and minor factors. Yea, really, personal self control is there but it may not work most times. When what you see, interact with every time gets to an extent, the self control may become powerless moreover when the girls are also much available to help you accomplish your lust or even the ones running after you or seducing you. How many guys can really keep self control in this kind of shiit society? We can only say it's a thing of the mind when the condition is favorable. Even, when there's no lady, the urge is powerful enough to kill the self-control, how much more when they abundantly provoke the natural urge in many folds again and also make themselves available. Forget story. You can't just talk as if woman have no influence on men. Don't even say that. That's falsehood. Every female gender know their influence and power on the mind of a male. No one denies this. You are only trying hard to twist what everyone knows. Man have the physical power but women have the mind controlling power. You know that but if you don't know, pls know that now. I asked some questions in my previous reply. Why is nude women used in advert etc and not men? Why are bad clothes mainly for ladies and not men? I can still ask you a lot of questions. But i don't need to. Women really have the remote control of men when we talk about sex. The fact always remains, we all know, only you trying to debate it. If women play their role. 90% of the problem is solved. The porn you mentioned, which gender is it about and what gender does it target? If you can't answer that. Let me tell you. Porn depicts women in very provocative ways and targets mainly the men. It's still same thing, women influencing men. Hijab or rape or whatever, there will still be cases like that, but if women play their roles, the major 90% of problem will be solved.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by StaffofOrayan(m): 5:46pm On May 18, 2018
LMFAO
You aint got sheeeeet

ChidiAlaigbo:


Self consolation! I am far from a broke ass.

I have houses in Lagos, cars, millions of naira shares, bank balance. Same abroad, so dont open that igbotic empty pride gutter mouth to spit your akpu on me.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Joshmodest(m): 5:48pm On May 18, 2018
Wizkid's excessive love for Zion is d reason those two b*tches are spewing trash....
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by cooltola(m): 5:53pm On May 18, 2018
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Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by cooltola(m): 5:55pm On May 18, 2018
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Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by forreelinc(m): 6:12pm On May 18, 2018
Bryan88:
NIGGA WHO GO LEAVE TOTO WEY DEY SWT LYK SUGAR GO DEY F*CK MAN? WHEN I SAID I GAT MY EYES ON U, I MEANT I DEY READ UP UR MUMU POSTS SINCE NOT JST DIS 1 AND U REALLY FUNNY...SO NO DEY REASON GAY-ISM COS I AINT 1 & WIL NEVER BE.
cheesy phew i was already traumatized say gay person dey toast me
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by cooltola(m): 6:13pm On May 18, 2018
dealslip:

No I still disagree with you. There is no disadvantage in any gender, men are not dumb creatures who are pressed like remote control sexually, I feel infuriated when you portray men as weak and having no control over themselves. It only makes it look like men are weak minded. You see the society shapes how people are viewed but you don't necessarily have to agree or live by such perception. My Husband determined in his heart not to defile himself before marriage and he was successful. My brother in law is a randy man and a smooth operator but they were raised by the same woman. Lack of sexual control is a thing of the mind, many men are taught about sexuality by their peers albeit poor orientation by such peers so also women. Things like if you can sleep with a girl, it means you are now a man. What happened after final exams in secondary schools in Lagos, boys will chase girls and rape them to prove their rite of manhood. The proliferation of porn materials, movie and music producers/mafia who falsely depict sex, drugs and money as signs of success all shape the mind of young people. This was absent in the olden days and are reasons you should be pointing at not women who God sculpted beautifully. I am not in any argument about women and men but that everyone should accept responsibility and consequences for what they do. The entire society is degenerated let us face the cause and effect not pretending it is because women suddenly decided to throw dignity away. The young girls who are in Hijab and kidnapped in the North and forcefully raped were not indecent they were victims of a society that didn't nip delinquency in the bud before it got out of hand. Please change your mind, you would have daughters or already have. She isnt/wasn't born with a natural sense that she should uphold decency, it is your duty as a parent to guide your children not the society. Also teach our sons to see women as God's wonderful master piece and treated so.

Moral is loose on both genders. Women are held up to higher standard compared to men. Men are meant to control their urges . For those men that cant, get a girlfriend or marry. The Baby Mama syndrome/ Baby daddy syndrome is not good for our society as a whole. Truth is that many Baby Daddies are not responsible and will not contribute to their kids especially in Nigeria . There are no child supports or laws that protect Baby mama. For the Baby mama , they cant deny her children, will have to raise their children by themselves , family supports and if they are lucky , they meet a rich man, or are wealthy themselves.. Raising a child is not easy when the father is not around or not supportive. Many of these children when they get older turn out to be criminals and the cycle continue again.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Nobody: 6:27pm On May 18, 2018
Great no matter the life you’ve lived you can make it up with your kids

Salute great fathers
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by dealslip(f): 6:42pm On May 18, 2018
Gratefulheart1:

My point is not about the woman/father parent who brings up the children, it's rather about ladies generally in the society. Please get that. You claim i portray men as weak or dumb sexually. Also, example of two different brothers raised by same mothers. Well, i also stated earlier than it's an individual thing, and also a society thing. Many factors may influence a particular situation but out of the factors, we will have major factors and minor factors. Yea, really, personal self control is there but it may not work most times. When what you see, interact with every time gets to an extent, the self control may become powerless moreover when the girls are also much available to help you accomplish your lust or even the ones running after you or seducing you. How many guys can really keep self control in this kind of shiit society? We can only say it's a thing of the mind when the condition is favorable. Even, when there's no lady, the urge is powerful enough to kill the self-control, how much more when they abundantly provoke the natural urge in many folds again and also make themselves available. Forget story. You can't just talk as if woman have no influence on men. Don't even say that. That's falsehood. Every female gender know their influence and power on the mind of a male. No one denies this. You are only trying hard to twist what everyone knows. Man have the physical power but women have the mind controlling power. You know that but if you don't know, pls know that now. I asked some questions in my previous reply. Why is nude women used in advert etc and not men? Why are bad clothes mainly for ladies and not men? I can still ask you a lot of questions. But i don't need to. Women really have the remote control of men when we talk about sex. The fact always remains, we all know, only you trying to debate it. If women play their role. 90% of the problem is solved. The porn you mentioned, which gender is it about and what gender does it target? If you can't answer that. Let me tell you. Porn depicts women in very provocative ways and targets mainly the men. It's still same thing, women influencing men. Hijab or rape or whatever, there will still be cases like that, but if women play their roles, the major 90% of problem will be solved.
Bros you are not prepared to face the truth that is the whole truth. You are the one that expects women to uphold chastity because men are weak. Nobody not even the Holy Book expect such from women alone. You are merely ignorant about porn. In fact the Bible directs most of its caution to men. Read through the proverbs. Men are expected to have serious control over their libido. Please is porn performed between a woman and a tree. Porn targets no gender, if you're interested in it just buy or download. There is no stupid role for women to be the custodian of decency. Aren't bare chested men equally used in advert. I keep telling you it is the society that dictates the tone of decency not women. Ladies in the society didn't fall from heaven they went through a process called upbringing by a Father and Mother stop acting as if they are sent to a school to be taught decency or indecency. You know in your heart that you mindset is myopic but you just find it hard to accept the truth. The society is what makes women what they are. If you learn how to control your mind you can control anyone whether as a woman or man. Men are equally guilty in the indecency index let everyone control himself not expecting some one else to control herself before you control yourself. Please men are not weak sexually lie you make it look. Surely my Father and Brothers aren't. Maybe you sha just speak for yourself and stop protraying other men as weak individuals. Whatever you feed your mind with your body will respond too stop giving excuses for your lack of self control. Do you take cocaine because it is available or you control yourself. The choice will always remain yours.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by dealslip(f): 6:44pm On May 18, 2018
cooltola:


Moral is loose on both genders. Women are held up to higher standard compared to men. Men are meant to control their urges . For those men that cant, get a girlfriend or marry. The Baby Mama syndrome/ Baby daddy syndrome is not good for our society as a whole. Truth is that many Baby Daddies are not responsible and will not contribute to their kids especially in Nigeria . There are no child supports or laws that protect Baby mama. For the Baby mama , they cant deny her children, will have to raise their children by themselves , family supports and if they are lucky , they meet a rich man, or are wealthy themselves.. Raising a child is not easy when the father is not around or not supportive. Many of these children when they get older turn out to be criminals and the cycle continue again.
I agree with you on most of your point. No one should uphold women to a higher standard. It is wrong. Everyone should keep themselves in check
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Nobody: 6:47pm On May 18, 2018
dealslip:

No I still disagree with you. There is no disadvantage in any gender, men are not dumb creatures who are pressed like remote control sexually, I feel infuriated when you portray men as weak and having no control over themselves. It only makes it look like men are weak minded. You see the society shapes how people are viewed but you don't necessarily have to agree or live by such perception. My Husband determined in his heart not to defile himself before marriage and he was successful. My brother in law is a randy man and a smooth operator but they were raised by the same woman. Lack of sexual control is a thing of the mind, many men are taught about sexuality by their peers albeit poor orientation by such peers so also women. Things like if you can sleep with a girl, it means you are now a man. What happened after final exams in secondary schools in Lagos, boys will chase girls and rape them to prove their rite of manhood. The proliferation of porn materials, movie and music producers/mafia who falsely depict sex, drugs and money as signs of success all shape the mind of young people. This was absent in the olden days and are reasons you should be pointing at not women who God sculpted beautifully. I am not in any argument about women and men but that everyone should accept responsibility and consequences for what they do. The entire society is degenerated let us face the cause and effect not pretending it is because women suddenly decided to throw dignity away. The young girls who are in Hijab and kidnapped in the North and forcefully raped were not indecent they were victims of a society that didn't nip delinquency in the bud before it got out of hand. Please change your mind, you would have daughters or already have. She isnt/wasn't born with a natural sense that she should uphold decency, it is your duty as a parent to guide your children not the society. Also teach our sons to see women as God's wonderful master piece and treated so.

You said you feel infuriated when i portray men as having no self-control. Is it my portray or what life is? Ever since woman has existed, man brain and life will always crave for women. Just study how innocent young boy of maybe two year old may relate to a girl. That's the way it is. Woman got the control over the mind of a man. No matter who a man is, let him call himself warrior or whatever, his warrior will be humbled when he sees a woman that appeals to him. Women knows this too, that why Nicki Minaj will say that pussii sells and use her femininity in the wrong way to have her way. Men know, women know the power they have, we all know, so it's not my portray. It's the reality. Maybe you don't get infuriated about what has been since existence time immemorial and you face the fact. How can you control ur mind, when you're feeling hungry, and someone brings a seductive aromatic food and still presents it to you in a provocative way, even places the food before you and every where you go? But if the provocation and food itself is not available, you may succeed in controlling ur hunger. Although, in real life hunger may be hard to suppress but sexual urge is still easy to suppress if there is not favorable condition motivates it. Men brains naturally works 24/7 about women, but if there is nothing around that encourages this, the thoughts will be suppressed and men will find more important things to spend their time and life on. You talk as if women don't have any influence on men. Do you even know how arousing, distracting or controlling some things women do for fun sometimes affects a guy? That is why sometimes if some guys catch a girl ehn, the way they handle her, you will think it's soldier drilling a thief. You provoke someone, he acts accordingly. Porn etc depicting women as seex objects, women depicting themselves as whores in the society have increased the perversion and way teen and old men now view women. That's why you will see young boys who will want to rape girls or molest them and do a lot with them. Most of this Bokoharam or whatever watch porn. The perversion and urges of men these days is greatly increased and how they view women. It can be controlled to the sane society we have in those days if women will take responsibility and play their roles. The control is in y'all hands. Then i've always said from my first reply that women have value and dignity, but these days you're the ones proving otherwise. How can you train your kid to respect women, when the women don't respect themselves but present themselves as whores and object of sexual provocation in the society. What a kid sees and interact with in the society every moment has more impact than whatever you teach him.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by dealslip(f): 6:59pm On May 18, 2018
Gratefulheart1:


You said you feel infuriated when i portray men as having no self-control. Is it my portray or what life is? Ever since woman has existed, man brain and life will always crave for women. Just study how innocent young boy of maybe two year old may relate to a girl. That's the way it is. Woman got the control over the mind of a man. No matter who a man is, let him call himself warrior or whatever, his warrior will be humbled when he sees a woman that appeals to him. Women knows this too, that why Nicki Minaj will say that womanliness sells and use her femininity in the wrong way to have her way. Men know, women know the power they have, we all know, so it's not my portray. It's the reality. Maybe you don't get infuriated about what has been since existence time immemorial and you face the fact. How can you control ur mind, when you're feeling hungry, and someone brings a seductive aromatic food and still presents it to you in a provocative way, even places the food before you and every where you go? But if the provocation and food itself is not available, you may succeed in controlling ur hunger. Although, in real life hunger may be hard to suppress but sexual urge is still easy to suppress if there is not favorable condition motivates it. Men naturally brain works 24/7 about women, but if there is nothing around that encourages this, the thoughts will be suppressed and men will find more important things to spend their time and life on. You talk as if women don't have any influence on men. Do you even know how arousing, distracting or controlling some things women do for fun sometimes affects a guy? That is why sometimes if some guys catch a girl ehn, the way they handle her, you will think it's soldier drilling a thief. You provoke someone, he acts accordingly. Porn etc depicting women as seex objects, women depicting themselves as whores in the society have increased the perversion and way teen and old men now view women. That's why you will young boys who will want to rape girls who molest them and do a lot with them. Most of this Bokoharam or whatever watch porn. The perversion and urges of men these days is greatly increased and how they view women. It can be controlled to the sane society we have in those days if women will take responsibility and play their roles. The control is in y'all hands. Then i've always said from my first reply that women have value and dignity, but these days you're the ones proving otherwise. How can you train your kid to respect women, when the women don't respect themselves but present themselves as whores and object of sexual provocation in the society. What a kid sees and interact with in the society has more impact that whatever you teach him.
Please only indecent men get caught in the trap of indecent women. Men who dont have values are the one that are easily caught in the web of indecency. You act as if Porn is a special reserve of women, isn't porn performed by two willing adult, male and female. Are you aware porn is an industry controlled by men. I am sensing that you are very young and don't quite get how the mind is shaped by influences around you. The society has changed. Men control yourself, it is possible. Will you sleep with your sister even if she acts indecently towards you - No. Why cant you extend the same control to other women. As a man thinks in his heart, so is he. That is why we are cautioned to guard our hearts with all diligence, for out of it comes the issue of life. Decency is a value every human must have. That is why we are Humans and not animals. In advanced countries you dare not molest a woman because she is indecently dressed, you know why because there is a consequence like jail. So why do men control themselves in such circumstances. It boils down to one thing personal discipline. You can speak for yourself but you cant generalise for other men, I know many men who are not remote controlled with sex.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by ChidiAlaigbo: 7:29pm On May 18, 2018
StaffofOrayan:
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Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by ChidiAlaigbo: 7:32pm On May 18, 2018
dealslip:

Please only indecent men get caught in the trap of indecent women. Men who dont have values are the one that are easily caught in the web of indecency. You act as if Porn is a special reserve of women, isn't porn performed by two willing adult, male and female. Are you aware porn is an industry controlled by men. I am sensing that you are very young and don't quite get how the mind is shaped by influences around you. The society has changed. Men control yourself, it is possible. Will you sleep with your sister even if she acts indecently towards you - No. Why cant you extend the same control to other women. As a man thinks in his heart, so is he. That is why we are cautioned to guard our hearts with all diligence, for out of it comes the issue of life. Decency is a value every human must have. That is why we are Humans and not animals. In advanced countries you dare not molest a woman because she is indecently dressed, you know why because there is a consequence like jail. So why do men control themselves in such circumstances. It boils down to one thing personal discipline. You can speak for yourself but you cant generalise for other men, I know many men who are not remote controlled with sex.

It is not the discipline dear, it is the humongous life destroying consequences. In Africa there are no sanctions or consequences otherwise nobody would think of stealing 1 naira from the public.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Virus777: 10:24pm On May 18, 2018
frbona:
is it every pretty Girl you call "ashawo"? Dont you have sisters?

Pray, what do you call a lady who spreads her legs and gets pregnant out of wedlock for a supposedly rich music star? undecided
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Nobody: 11:31pm On May 18, 2018
dealslip:

Please only indecent men get caught in the trap of indecent women. Men who dont have values are the one that are easily caught in the web of indecency. You act as if Porn is a special reserve of women, isn't porn performed by two willing adult, male and female. Are you aware porn is an industry controlled by men. I am sensing that you are very young and don't quite get how the mind is shaped by influences around you. The society has changed. Men control yourself, it is possible. Will you sleep with your sister even if she acts indecently towards you - No. Why cant you extend the same control to other women. As a man thinks in his heart, so is he. That is why we are cautioned to guard our hearts with all diligence, for out of it comes the issue of life. Decency is a value every human must have. That is why we are Humans and not animals. In advanced countries you dare not molest a woman because she is indecently dressed, you know why because there is a consequence like jail. So why do men control themselves in such circumstances. It boils down to one thing personal discipline. You can speak for yourself but you cant generalise for other men, I know many men who are not remote controlled with sex.

Hmmm, from ur last two replies, it appears you just want to defend blindly, you're mixing things up and getting things wrong or maybe you don't really know much about some things. You're seeing everything from a theoretical point of view. I never said only women should uphold sexual chastity. Much is expected from men too, but like i stated earlier, it still hinges on the side of women more because they av more profound sexual influences. Men naturally craves for women, but if women can live with dignity like before, men won't have a choice than to control themselves. If you have natural appetite for sugary things and doctor warns you to stop taking it for health reasons; will you go for shopping, fill your house, bedroom, wardrobe with sweet assorted chocolates and enticing sugary things and tell yourself that you should be able to use mind control, just a thing of the mind? Isn't that somehow foolish and lame? If you rather keep tempting things out of your house, isn't that a simple reasonable solution? After you keep away the temptation, then self-control will work more effectively.
In countries where many of their citizens have been destroyed through hard-drugs, why do they ban drugs there? Why do they arrest drug pushers and some countries kill drug pushers? Why can't the government encourage drug pushers but rather blame the people taking it and claim it's about mind control, that each people is expected to have mind control what they take? Why? This is simple straight forward common sense stuff that everyone is expected to know.
Well, Porn is not acted by a woman and a tree, but it's majorly about depicting women in provocative manners. It's majorly about depicting of the women and not the men. Porn targets no gender? Really? So because anybody can download/buy anything means it's targeted at or meant for everyone? You need more enlightenment about some issues. The proverbs you mentioned, do you want to compare caliber of women then with even the generation of our decent grand parents. Those proverbs time, women are more too virtuous, things are way very strict. Women played their role well, so the men are admonished. These days, opposite is the case. Can you compare the rate of bare chested men to that of woman in advert? Who even uses bare chested men as such? And the ones you can point at, can you compare the way the women are portrayed to the way the men are portrayed? Try to be genuine and sincere, don't just bring blank points. Women have more sex appeal, many know this and use their sex appeal, the world knows this and use women to manipulate, only you talk as if you don't know this. No one says ladies went to school to be taught indecency, stop being unnecessarily sensitive and defensive, get the points right. Women have great role on sexual morality or immorality because of the way they were made and the great influence they have, that's their strength. So, if each lady can value dignity in dressing, behavior and sexual purity as before, things will drastically improve. Men too have part to play but women will be of more help, that's the simple fact, you're only being immaturely too defensive and taking every point as offense. No one is blaming only women. OK. Only that women have more influence in the whole thing.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Nobody: 11:33pm On May 18, 2018
dealslip:

Please only indecent men get caught in the trap of indecent women. Men who dont have values are the one that are easily caught in the web of indecency. You act as if Porn is a special reserve of women, isn't porn performed by two willing adult, male and female. Are you aware porn is an industry controlled by men. I am sensing that you are very young and don't quite get how the mind is shaped by influences around you. The society has changed. Men control yourself, it is possible. Will you sleep with your sister even if she acts indecently towards you - No. Why cant you extend the same control to other women. As a man thinks in his heart, so is he. That is why we are cautioned to guard our hearts with all diligence, for out of it comes the issue of life. Decency is a value every human must have. That is why we are Humans and not animals. In advanced countries you dare not molest a woman because she is indecently dressed, you know why because there is a consequence like jail. So why do men control themselves in such circumstances. It boils down to one thing personal discipline. You can speak for yourself but you cant generalise for other men, I know many men who are not remote controlled with sex.
Only indecent men get caught in trap of indecent women? Really? Do you know how many holy men who have gotten their lives shattered because of women issues? Do you know how many pastors indecency of women have spoilt their ministries? do you know how many decent and even so called holy people secretly struggling with different sexual issues that no one knows? Do you know how many pastors have sexual addictions to indecent women? Do you know how many decent people secretly battling with porn addiction etc? What destroyed the life of Samson? You know how David got into trouble about the bathing woman and all the commotion after? It's not the bathing woman's fault, i didn't say that, because you may misunderstand my point again and get it all wrong. But fault or no fault, the fact is, the innocent bathing woman resulted in the actions and repercussions. If ordinary innocent woman cause that, what about a situation whereby women intentional become whores and do all sort of provocative things? Many people you call descent including the one you look to as religious men and leaders are passing through a lot and doing a lot secretly. In advanced countries you mentioned. Who told you they don't even have more sexual problems? Do you know how many of their men, leaders, presidents have abuse, molested and groped women? Do you know how pervert those white men are? Do you know different things they do with women? Are they not the ones who have loosen to the extent they graduated to gayism and lesbianism? Stop confusing yourself. You can't put fire beside petrol and expect it to quench the fire. Reason practically, stop the theoretical mind thing you keep saying. If you still don't understand all these, let me explain like this: If women do the right things they should do, men will have no option than to cooperate, immorality will greatly reduce, but it you just same men should control their mind and women should continue to seduce, wayward, provoke and make themselves available, when it gets to some extent, men will be forced back and dance to the tune of the women. If you still want to argue blindly, then, i wish you good luck. Peace.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by dealslip(f): 6:16am On May 19, 2018
Gratefulheart1:


Hmmm, from ur last two replies, it appears you just want to defend blindly, you're mixing things up and getting things wrong or maybe you don't really know much about some things. You're seeing everything from a theoretical point of view. I never said only women should uphold sexual chastity. Much is expected from men too, but like i stated earlier, it still hinges on the side of women more because they av more profound sexual influences. Men naturally craves for women, but if women can live with dignity like before, men won't have a choice than to control themselves. If you have natural appetite for sugary things and doctor warns you to stop taking it for health reasons; will you go for shopping, fill your house, bedroom, wardrobe with sweet assorted chocolates and enticing sugary things and tell yourself that you should be able to use mind control, just a thing of the mind? Isn't that somehow foolish and lame? If you rather keep tempting things out of your house, isn't that a simple reasonable solution? After you keep away the temptation, then self-control will work more effectively.
In countries where many of their citizens have been destroyed through hard-drugs, why do they ban drugs there? Why do they arrest drug pushers and some countries kill drug pushers? Why can't the government encourage drug pushers but rather blame the people taking it and claim it's about mind control, that each people is expected to have mind control what they take? Why? This is simple straight forward common sense stuff that everyone is expected to know.
Well, Porn is not acted by a woman and a tree, but it's majorly about depicting women in provocative manners. It's majorly about depicting of the women and not the men. Porn targets no gender? Really? So because anybody can download/buy anything means it's targeted at or meant for everyone? You need more enlightenment about some issues. The proverbs you mentioned, do you want to compare caliber of women then with even the generation of our decent grand parents. Those proverbs time, women are more too virtuous, things are way very strict. Women played their role well, so the men are admonished. These days, opposite is the case. Can you compare the rate of bare chested men to that of woman in advert? Who even uses bare chested men as such? And the ones you can point at, can you compare the way the women are portrayed to the way the men are portrayed? Try to be genuine and sincere, don't just bring blank points. Women have more sex appeal, many know this and use their sex appeal, the world knows this and use women to manipulate, only you talk as if you don't know this. No one says ladies went to school to be taught indecency, stop being unnecessarily sensitive and defensive, get the points right. Women have great role on sexual morality or immorality because of the way they were made and the great influence they have, that's their strength. So, if each lady can value dignity in dressing, behavior and sexual purity as before, things will drastically improve. Men too have part to play but women will be of more help, that's the simple fact, you're only being immaturely too defensive and taking every point as offense. No one is blaming only women. OK. Only that women have more influence in the whole thing.
Go back and read your posts from the beginning then compare it to what you wrote now, you are just dishonest and keep moving the goal post. You said if women respect themselves then men would but if not men would use them disrespectfully, you made mention that irresponsible men were raised by indecent women, men are controlled sexually by women. Please have a good day in your weakness.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by dealslip(f): 6:22am On May 19, 2018
Gratefulheart1:

Only indecent men get caught in trap of indecent women? Really? Do you know how many holy men who have gotten their lives shattered because of women issues? Do you know how many pastors indecency of women have spoilt their ministries? do you know how many decent and even so called holy people secretly struggling with different sexual issues that no one knows? Do you know how many pastors have sexual addictions to indecent women? Do you know how many decent people secretly battling with porn addiction etc? What destroyed the life of Samson? You know how David got into trouble about the bathing woman and all the commotion after? It's not the bathing woman's fault, i didn't say that, because you may misunderstand my point again and get it all wrong. But fault or no fault, the fact is, the innocent bathing woman resulted in the actions and repercussions. If ordinary innocent woman cause that, what about a situation whereby women intentional become whores and do all sort of provocative things? Many people you call descent including the one you look to as religious men and leaders are passing through a lot and doing a lot secretly. In advanced countries you mentioned. Who told you they don't even have more sexual problems? Do you know how many of their men, leaders, presidents have abuse, molested and groped women? Do you know how pervert those white men are? Do you know different things they do with women? Are they not the ones who have loosen to the extent they graduated to gayism and lesbianism? Stop confusing yourself. You can't put fire beside petrol and expect it to quench the fire. Reason practically, stop the theoretical mind thing you keep saying. If you still don't understand all these, let me explain like this: If women do the right things they should do, men will have no option than to cooperate, immorality will greatly reduce, but it you just same men should control their mind and women should continue to seduce, wayward, provoke and make themselves available, when it gets to some extent, men will be forced back and dance to the tune of the women. If you still want to argue blindly, then, i wish you good luck. Peace.
Please you are not making sense. They lacked self control finish and stop acting as if women carry some sexual charms that is just out to destroy them. When a man has no control over his own mind. He would fall. It is not the women that make them fall. Would you become an armed robbery because you were lured and manipulated.Goodluck in your 'sexual weakness and women remote control' mindset. Anytime you see a lady, don't control your urges because you expect her to be decent.
Re: Jay-Jay Okocha Carrying Wizkid's Son, Zion Ayo Balogun by Nobody: 7:52am On May 19, 2018
dealslip:

Please you are not making sense. They lacked self control finish and stop acting as if women carry some sexual charms that is just out to destroy them. When a man has no control over his own mind. He would fall. It is not the women that make them fall. Would you become an armed robbery because you were lured and manipulated. Goodluck in your 'sexual weakness and women remote control' mindset. Anytime you see a lady, don't control your urges because you expect her to be decent.
Again, you're likely confused because I don't believe an adult will say women don't have sex appeal or they don't have influence or effect on men. So women have exact same body as men? or look same way as men? or you mean men are not moved by women or what? I don't get you. You're the one not making sense, not any sense here at all. There is a place for mind control too, I said that and I get u properly, but you the one talking blindly and immaturely. There is a place for mind control, but mind control can only work well if conditions are favourable, but if bad influences are high, every time and everywhere u go, u'll yield. We're talking about natural appetite/urge here, just like natural food appetite. The urge is multiplied with many indecent things around. If u add fuel to fire, the fire becomes more. U can't put out fire by keep adding fuel, stop the fuel first, then it will be easy to control. I gave u chocolate and hard drug example previously. You even mentioned armed robbery, is armed robbery an example of natural pleasures and urges like sex, food? Comparing sexual pleasure/appetite with armed robbery? You really talk funny. You keep mixing things up, You're talking like a confused kid who doesn't know how things are in real life. That's really surprising.

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