Who opened the legs? If girls don't open their legs, nothing will enter. If you don't give, he will not take. So girls should stop pretending as if they don't know the consequences of sex- pregnancy and sti/std

Boland:
You see; That's where the problem lies:

If you want a real relationship, of course Marriage should be in the plan, if not it's just flings and that is more of a contract. If you want her to be your sex mate, what will you be bringing to the table?

If the lady feels like she's bigger than what you're offering, there shouldn't be a fuss about it.
It's simple, you're the one that wants to purchase a commodity, the price on it shouldn't give you headache.
And if you say both of you will enjoy the sex thing, just remember that you were the one that asked her out, you asked for it, you should be able to deal with whatever comes with it.

dancok:
u again,, let me wife u na, we are not far from each other, am in Akure

lol

Boland:
My thread is not for you.

bro, you are still a learner probably all these boys in their 20s making few thousands. I pity you tho because naija girls will soon show you pepper with this type of your mindset. One day, reality will hit you! I have seen thousands of holy holy girls that are slay queen inside but holy Mary outside. I can only spend on my wife & not a girlfriend! most of these girls doing sister in the church are bad girl out there. When it comes to women matter, some men have seen it all and they will be laughing at your post. When you develop yourself and you are OK, ladies will be running after you and will not be demanding from you because they will not want to lose you. Continue wasting your money, when its time you will wise up

Cutehector:
Principles are very much different from.practice.

You might think you are right but when reality shows up, mehn.. You'd realize you are the biggest fool on earth.

I agree with your post op.. But in practice, it doesn't work for every girl, else you would be made a living fool.


Have a nice day Boland.

The guy just starter dating, when reality hit him am very sure that his mindset will change

yesloaded:

The guy just starter dating, when reality hit him am very sure that his mindset will change

I dey tell you. Na novice him be.

Cutehector:
I dey tell you. Na novice him be.

lol

TheSpellChecker:


Sir, I believe the correct word is heap.

Yeah sure heap jare. Pardon my error jor. Thanks

Op my advice to you is to be careful.
A time comes in your life when you begin to see ladies from a totally different perspective!.
That's why am against marriage before 29 or 30 for guys.
The older you grow, the wiser you become.
There re certain things that don't matter in life at a certain stage.
Providing for any woman shouldn't be your priority at an advanced stage.
Her value will matter more to you.
Men rise and fall and rise again.
Better change your mentality.

Boland:

And I see most of y'all complain about Feminism when in actual sense those qualities these feminists possess are what fits into the criterion of the type of lady you want.

You have been cajoled, they don't really want the qualities they claim they want,
at least many of them. Many men who claim to love independent ladies are liars,
they will still be the one to reject such ladies because they are not "humble".
Slay queens are not totally wrong as you think, they have just learnt the difference
between what people say and what they do.

MarieSucre:


You're premising your argument on her sticking to what you're offering. But Boland argument is that it is the other way, you do not find a girl and try to fit her into your budget and get angry when she doesn't. Just explaining his argument, correct me if I'm wrong.

I will never find a girl and force her into my budget, if she won’t accept what I have to offer as a bf pls she can walk, but no lady should walk into any relationship hoping her entire needs will be catered for by the guy. Sure it’s hes responsibility to an extent to care for the lady as a bf.


Today’s relationship once a girl says yes to a guy automatically the guys becomes a debtor lol

PrimadonnaO:


But most guys don't want those. They want the flashy looking girls... fresh skin, nice hair, fine clothes and bags and shoes. It's not easy keeping up with all these, trust me.

Y'all should just have it in mind that if you approach a girl who always like to look good, she'll expect you to contribute to that.

Does she contribute to how I look good?

lilbest4:
The dumbest set of males are the ones who believe ladies are doing them a favor by having sex with them. Girls beg real guys for sex that's something you might never know sha.

By your definition, most males are dumb.
We all know who usually brags to their friend after sex, if it wasn't a
favour, why would anyone brag about it?

ideology:


Of course, I get your point, but I don't agree to 50:50. And understand today's marriage is trade by barter.

Couples are looking for what to gain not what they can offer.

I am happier being the giver than a receiver.
So I don't support 50:50

Its my home, I will take responsibilities of everything and everyone, but what I won't accept is wifey asking me for everything

I want to buy pant, lip stick, this and that you name those random things

I won't also support my wife or children request for things just because their friends have them.

Well things marriage thing - mehn I really need to take my time.

since u don't want independent lady dat means u must provide all and do u know d funniest part of it is dat most of u guys dat always say dis later become d worst wen it comes to married.. My dear u can't all responsibility in married it gonna weak and affect u no matter how rich u are and always remember dat lyf is nt a bed of roses so for me a lady shd also b okay on her on her own so dat whenever d husband is affected somehow d wife support that is wen u yourself will enjoy d marriage...

ubunja:

sex is the greatest gift from God to Man thats why a man and a wife leave their families to live together for it. women were, are and always will be golddiggers. thats what you must know. thats why no girl dates a guy without a job.
guys are frustrated becos girls demand too much for access to sex. dont just laugh the guys' complaints as if it means nothing. its a legitimate reasonable complaint.

The bold is lie, sex is one of the cheapest thing to get these days.
But if you want more than sex, you either hook up with a woman who
can fend for herself or you choose the ones that will depend on you and
feed your ego.

Xisnin:


You have been cajoled, they don't really want the qualities they claim they want,
at least many of them. Many men who claim to love independent ladies are liars,
they will still be the one to reject such ladies because they are not "humble".
Slay queens are not totally wrong as you think, they have just learnt the difference
between what people say and what they do.

bt nt all independent lady are nt humble although let me say 40%out of 100% are humble.. And I want to ask dis is it all dependent lady are humble cus wen mk dat statement it really sound somehow.. D only tin I knw is dat dere are some lady dat are still okay on deir own and money never put pride on dem and dere are some ladies dat are nt ok and dey ve dis pride cus is in dem lyk peak milk so it vise verse

PrimadonnaO:


Why have you chosen to exaggerate? What do you mean by full responsibility exactly? Feed her, clothe her, provide accommodation, take care of her cravings now and again? Lol, c'mon. Most men can't even afford that.

Yea most Men can’t but don’t be surprised a whole chunk of men can cater n afford to do more than that. It’s like investment, no one want to finance a bad investment so they chose to play safe.

Rosay15:
since u don't want independent lady dat means u must provide all and do u know d funniest part of it is dat most of u guys dat always say dis later become d worst wen it comes to married.. My dear u can't all responsibility in married it gonna weak and affect u no matter how rich u are and always remember dat lyf is nt a bed of roses so for me a lady shd also b okay on her on her own so dat whenever d husband is affected somehow d wife support that is wen u yourself will enjoy d marriage...

sorry dear!

First of all, we don't belong to the same school of thought.

Secondly you misunderstood what I said probably because you didn't follow from the beginning.

That I want to provide for my home, does not stop my wife from assisting.

My point is very clear, what I won't do is tell my wife. House rent is 2million, bring 1millon.

School fees is 5million bring 2.5million.

Do you get it now! Like the guy who said 50:50

I know I will marry a good lady who will know how to come in.

Abeg don't be fast to judge people you don't know from anywhere. I dont even remember using the word independent Thanks

ideology:
op said don't expect apples on coconut tree.

Sure I know I won’t find apple on a coconut tree but even if I want to get coconut from its tree u wouldn’t expect me to first plate the trunk of the coconut tree with gold especially when I’m not sure if the coconut I want to get has water inside.

Olifiz:


Sure I know I won’t find apple on a coconut tree but even if I want to get coconut from its tree u wouldn’t expect me to first plate the trunk of the coconut tree with gold especially when I’m not sure if the coconut I want to get has water inside.

Here is the point, there are ladies that will put all their bills on you, if that is okay for you, go ahead and don't complain.

If that is not the kind of lady you want, quit and don't complain.

Hahhahahhaha

Don't come online and complain either

Very true when I was really broke, I didn’t go close to women because I couldn’t afford to pay for dates and outing. At the same time no man should think of getting rich because you want to be able to get access to a lady’s Pussy. Sex is good but it’s not worth getting rich for, once you cum all that shopping and spending is gone, think of getting rich to better your life and your family and help people.

ideology:


Here is the point, there are ladies that will put all their bills on you, if that is okay for you, go ahead and don't complain.

If that is not the kind of lady you want, quit and don't complain.

Hahhahahhaha

Don't come online and complain either

I’m not disputing ur stance.
But we’re here to advice ok. For a serious relationship which will lead to marriage the later is not wat i will advice u to go for. Thanks bless u

Na this kind of dia OP stingy pass

kimbraa:
Do you consider yourself a man? Do I need to be above 27 to have the right to call your likes kids?

Gibberish!!!

Xisnin:

The bold is lie, sex is one of the cheapest thing to get these days.
But if you want more than sex, you either hook up with a woman who
can fend for herself or you choose the ones that will depend on you and
feed your ego.

if sex is the cheapest thing to get why is porn and masturbation spiralling out of control; and why did Sex Dolls trend? clearly something doesnt add up.

ubunja:
if sex is the cheapest thing to get why is porn and masturbation spiralling out of control; and why did Sex Dolls trend? clearly something doesnt add up.

Don't mix up the issues, porn and masturbation are not a replacement for sex, at least for normal people
who desire sexual activity.
Sex doll is about statement and not sex. Because a sex doll is far more expensive than getting sex and poor people
who get sex can't even afford a sex doll.

Xisnin:


Don't mix up the issues, porn and masturbation are not a replacement for sex, at least for normal people
who desire sexual activity.
Sex doll is about statement and not sex. Because a sex doll is far more expensive than getting sex and poor people
who get sex can't even afford a sex doll.

you see how you fail to think constructively? you cant even explain why porn and masturbation is strong in an era of "cheap sex". well let me tell you since you cant put 1 and 1together. sex is cheap yes, but for a select few men who are sharing women among themselves. its the reason women generally have a higher rate of STIs than men (go Google the stats if you must). most guys are celibate in Friendzones.
as for sex dolls: you made the fatal error of linking sex and money. a guy may have money but if the price of access to sex is too much (the same point i made earlier) then men wont want to pay that price. a sex doll becomes a better bargain. thats why sex dolls trended. get knowledge.

zicoraads:

Does she contribute to how I look good?

Yes. She'd get you nice clothings, accessories, perfumes when she comes across them...it's not a one-way street, I know. It's two people giving and taking. But if we're going to be sincere, it won't be a 50-50 thing. That's why men are primarily providers. Let's all stick to our primary inclinations.

Okay I think the point you guys are missing in this entire argument is that the ALL of the female folk in naija have turned into demanding gold diggers. The sluts, the virgins, the single mothers, spinsters, married, the young, the old... ALL of them! Therein lies the frustration of the men.
So at the end of the day, it becomes NOT a question of game. @2buffagain

PrimadonnaO:


Yes. She'd get you nice clothings, accessories, perfumes when she comes across them...it's not a one-way street, I know. It's two people giving and taking. But if we're going to be sincere, it won't be a 50-50 thing. That's why men are primarily providers. Let's all stick to our primary inclinations.

Why won't it be a 50-50 thing? Meaning you agree that your role is primarily in the kitchen and taking care of the kids and home?

Nice one from you all. But I keep telling people this, if you know you are not ready to carry the responsibility of a lady either as your girl friend,wife or whatever you should zip up. In Nigeria today apart from sexual incompatibility, financial reason is another cause of broken homes today and infidelity in the part of the women which result into most cases of domestic violence. Most women sleeps around not for the fun of it but for financial reasons because if any man wishes to offer a woman help, he has to lay with her.

Again, the ladies of today uses this as a means of livelihood. You find them in clubs, hotels and even in your streets. So both sides are not innocent in this issue.

ModelX:
Okay I think the point you guys are missing in this entire argument is that the ALL of the female folk in naija have turned into demanding gold diggers. The sluts, the virgins, the single mothers, spinsters, married, the young, the old... ALL of them! Therein lies the frustration of the men.
So at the end of the day, it becomes NOT a question of game. @2buffagain

Yes pls. and ediots like Davido giving their GFs cars for show off are making everything worse

Okay