EgunMogaji:


Are you pulling my leg here?

There's Castrol oil and there is Coastal oil. They are different. They are both just slightly better than junk to me. I use Mobil 1 exclusively in my garage.

EgunMogaji:


Google is not my friend, maybe it's yours.

Some of us create what Google captures in their database.

Castrol is simply low-grade oil. Someone else already said something similar.

Castrol with any of the other oil will work if it has the correct composition that meets the manufacturer's specifications and is of the correct weight. My issue is carrying it as if it's a premium oil. It's not.

dru23:
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But Audi, VW, BMW, Ranger rover do reccomend it .. I guess the manufacture are crazy... me am not understanding again

EgunMogaji:


1) Any manufacturer can RECOMMEND any oil brand.

2) No manufacturer can deny your warranty because you did not use their recommended brand.

The key is as I’ve tried to explain is

1) Composition that manufacturers require. For my MY09 Jetta, VW requires an oil that meets their 502.00

2) weight, such as 0W40

3) change frequency, keep your receipt to prove

Do these things and no manufacturer will deny your claim because you didn’t use their recommended brand.

I’ve met with many factory representatives and this is first hand information.

dru23:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://knowhow.napaonline.com/recommended-oil-following-manufacturers-guidance-important/&ved=2ahUKEwj8r6b3zKfbAhXIrFkKHUt5CpUQFjABegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2rx5em3bHPo0u-9Rmw-L05

EgunMogaji:


Thank you for that link. It proves what I’ve been saying all night.

Manufacturers can’t mandate a brand.

It’s really easy stuff.

“So when it comes to oil, use any brand that meets the American Petroleum Institute (API) specifications listed in your owner's manual. And when it comes to other replacement fluids, use anything that says it meets Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) requirements.”

https://www.cartalk.com/content/oil-it-ok-use-different-brand-name

VolvoS60:


^^^
Interesting.

I did a google search on German Adler lubricants a while back but it doesn't seem to have a web presence. There is a company website with product range details etc. but zero mentions of the oil on BMW and Benz user forums . Or have I been looking in the wrong places?

tensazangetsu20:


Some of the oils being used by guys in those BMW and Benz forums I don't even see in Nigeria except mobil 1.

VolvoS60:
The gentleman marketing US made Castrol on this thread gives a new meaning to the phrase "hard sell". . I like his style.

I committed the mortal sin of using Nigerian sold Castrol oil (the label stated it was EU manufactured but that was a whole new controversy on its own) and saying so publicly. Because of this I got into a long winded and completely unnecessary debate with another poster on another oil thread. In the rash of recent oil threads on NL, the major selling point of a number of US spec oils is that they are synthetic AND they also meet the viscosity requirements of most of the imported (new and used) cars sold in Nigeria today. But are these US oils really synthetic?

My limited research shows that US oil manufacturers are able to label their oils as synthetic only as a result of a court ruling arising from a trade dispute [/b]between Mobil and Castrol (Castrol again! ) and not because they developed these synthetic oils in a lab from scratch as the Europeans and the Japanese do. So are these US spec oils really special or they are mostly marketing hype?

While there may (and I must stress the argument may) be a strong argument that US spec oils go through stricter regulatory oversight than Nigerian manufactured/blended oils, it is Euro spec oils (as a group), Japanese oils and a few others that [b]truly meet the definition of synthetic (with all the so called advantages accruing to the label).

What has never been fully clear to me is why over the years, no major oil company in Nigeria took advantage of the gap in the market for mineral oils with viscosities of 5W 20, 5W 30, 5W 40 etc. Surely they must have seen the trends? There are thousands of used cars imported from North America into Nigeria annually which require these viscosities and they do not necessarily require synthetic oil with the most recent API rating. A number of car owners in Nigeria who started purchasing synthetic oil a few years ago were boxed into buying Mobil 1 because it was the only locally available oil with the right viscosities - but you had to pay heavily for its synthetic qualities and its high API rating. The truth is that thousands of car owners in Nigeria today do not necessarily need synthetic oils with 'SN' API ratings for their vehicles. They'll do just fine with mineral oil, regularly changed.

EgunMogaji:
For anyone that is serious about learning about oil please go to https://www.bobistheoilguy.com, not Google.

timifakay:


Thanks for sharing sir.
Thanks alot.

dru23:


This is issue with Nigerians we tend not to follow directions.. If the manufacture advice that castrol oil is recommended, why use something else bro .. In the states if you go against the manufacture advice, and the engine develop faults , the warranty will not cover it.. Are u telling me u know better than the car manufacturers? Smh ...

timifakay:


Sir, manufacturer specification and manufacturer recommendation are 2 different things.
Recommendation is negotiable
Specification is non negotiable.
If you use the wrong specification from the recommended brand - you are at risk; right specification from a brand that's not recommended - no risk.

Specification.
Recommendation.

dru23:


Maybe I didn't clearly clarify the two.. Bottom line to be on the safe side, people should follow either the manufacture advice or recommendation or specifications , either way Nigerians rarely do any of the above mentioned.. Look at Lagos transport system.. That was a waste of money and time .most of the buses are no longer working.. We all know why..

timifakay:


To clarify, first you gotta understand. I think that's where the problem lies.

VolvoS60:
The gentleman marketing US made Castrol on this thread gives a new meaning to the phrase "hard sell". . I like his style.

I committed the mortal sin of using Nigerian sold Castrol oil (the label stated it was EU manufactured but that was a whole new controversy on its own) and saying so publicly. Because of this I got into a long winded and completely unnecessary debate with another poster on another oil thread. In the rash of recent oil threads on NL, the major selling point of a number of US spec oils is that they are synthetic AND they also meet the viscosity requirements of most of the imported (new and used) cars sold in Nigeria today. But are these US oils really synthetic?

My limited research shows that US oil manufacturers are able to label their oils as synthetic only as a result of a court ruling arising from a trade dispute between Mobil and Castrol (Castrol again! ) and not because they developed these synthetic oils in a lab from scratch as the Europeans and the Japanese do. So are these US spec oils really special or they are mostly marketing hype?

While there may (and I must stress the argument may) be a strong argument that US spec oils go through stricter regulatory oversight than Nigerian manufactured/blended oils, it is Euro spec oils (as a group) and perhaps Japanese oils that truly meet the definition of synthetic (with all the so called advantages accruing to the label).

What has never been fully clear to me is why over the years, no major oil company in Nigeria took advantage of the gap in the market for mineral oils with viscosities of 5W 20, 5W 30, 5W 40 etc. Surely they must have seen the trends? There are thousands of used cars imported from North America into Nigeria annually which require these viscosities and they do not necessarily require synthetic oil with the most recent API rating. A number of car owners in Nigeria who started purchasing synthetic oil a few years ago were boxed into buying Mobil 1 because it was the only locally available oil with the right viscosities - but you had to pay heavily for its synthetic qualities and its high API rating. The truth is that thousands of car owners in Nigeria today do not necessarily need synthetic oils with 'SN' API ratings for their vehicles. They'll do just fine with mineral oil, regularly changed.

timifakay:


To clarify, first you gotta understand. I think that's where the problem lies.

EgunMogaji:


I gave up

AutoElectNG:


I advocate correct viscosity and not synthetic.

I only advocate synthetics for those wanting long OCIs and a couple of other advantages.

You have done your homework boy

You have earned your stripes

AutoElectNG:


I advocate correct viscosity and not synthetic.

I only advocate synthetics for those wanting long OCIs and a couple of other advantages.

You have done your homework boy

You have earned your stripes

sho mo age e ni? Better go and dobale kia kia

VolvoS60:


^^^
Exactly.

I run synthetics in my vehicle for precisely the reason you listed above - long OCIs and I run my vehicles for several years - sometimes till they die. It might not make sense for a vehicle user to run synthetics in a very high mileage vehicle with short OCIs - and if the owner intends to sell off the vehicle in a couple of years.

I try to do my homework . Its all part of being an educated consumer - there's always something new to learn each day and you can never know it all. I only wish I was still a boy with the energy of a youth . I'll give you an idea of how long I've been around: I can still remember the coup speech announcing your current president as head of state during his first coming in the 80s...

Uncle ancestor emabinu si omo yen

GAZZUZZ:


Uncle ancestor emabinu si omo yen

VolvoS60:


^^^
Exactly.

I run synthetics in my vehicle for precisely the reason you listed above - long OCIs and I run my vehicles for several years - sometimes till they die. It might not make sense for a vehicle user to run synthetics in a very high mileage vehicle with short OCIs - and if the owner intends to sell off the vehicle in a couple of years.

I try to do my homework . Its all part of being an educated consumer - there's always something new to learn each day and you can never know it all. I only wish I was still a boy with the energy of a youth . I'll give you an idea of how long I've been around: I can still remember the coup speech announcing your current president as head of state during his first coming in the 80s...

EgunMogaji:


Are you pulling my leg here?

There's Castrol oil and there is Coastal oil. They are different. They are both just slightly better than junk to me. I use Mobil 1 exclusively in my garage.

VolvoS60:


^^^
Exactly.

I run synthetics in my vehicle for precisely the reason you listed above - long OCIs and I run my vehicles for several years - sometimes till they die. It might not make sense for a vehicle user to run synthetics in a very high mileage vehicle with short OCIs - and if the owner intends to sell off the vehicle in a couple of years.

I try to do my homework . Its all part of being an educated consumer - there's always something new to learn each day and you can never know it all. I only wish I was still a boy with the energy of a youth . I'll give you an idea of how long I've been around: I can still remember the coup speech announcing your current president as head of state during his first coming in the 80s...

dru23:


It is not how the message is delivered.. But did you get the message? That matters

timifakay:


No, it's what you type we read, not what was on your mind.

AutoElectNG:


Used the word "BOY" with a sense of excitement, admiration, and respect and in no way in an attempt to denigrate.

It continues to be a pleasure to read from you.

EgunMogaji:
Please let the record show that I do not sell nor recommend Coastal engine oil or lubricants.

Thanks.