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Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by phase1: 7:51am On Jun 11, 2018
TempoJames:




You must be a bastard for wasting my time. Sun news paper stop publishing as at 10 dec,2012 and resumed in 2015. I placed a special order from d vendors and felt embarrassed. I even researched for Enabulele's articles I didn't see any nonsense related to N.gonorrhea. I'm not surprised...dirty propaganda has always been a tool for johesu.
IDIOT!

You are a bloody liar. Go to Sun newspaper office and ask them for a Copy of their Nov 28 2014 publication in their archives. The Sun newspaper published throughout 2014 and I bought it everyday. How can a vendor (who might even illiterate) have a 2014 publication. Are you are a trisomic mor0n?

Stop ridiculing yourself. Your colleagues will be ashamed of you.

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Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by phase1: 7:59am On Jun 11, 2018
nelszx:

Fix tissues for you to interpret ....... hahaha gerrarahere
Of course technician will fix the tissues for you....if your left ball strong go and say this nonsense to any scientist and see if you wont eat the tissue.
When you can't hold meaning argument you resort to name calling. If you like call me student if you like technician that's your headache, it won't change anything in me.

Hahaha... The mor0nic wardmen think that calling Scientists Technician will change anything. I have seen lab assistants that can focus microscopes but the likes of dr Enabulele and co will struggle to regulate on the light source of a light microscope.

Nobody who can use a microscope professionally will say Vibrio cholera is gram positive grin
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by TempoJames(m): 8:58am On Jun 11, 2018
It marvels me when I see ignorance cry so loud. You mean in your entire professional life both as Bcs in Mcb n medlab technology u were never taught candida albicans is a microflora in vagina that becomes pathogenic in conditions where the pH is disturbed such as using soaps to wash the area, in immunosuppression,diabetics n pregnancy? You really mean you dont know d risk factors of candidasis?Then you are a bastard technician.


I don't need to quote any link. I'm an authority in pathology.
You graduated 2012? you are a kid to me. This yr is making me 11 years in practise and 3 years as a consultant.


Boy you have a long way to go.

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Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by JoannaSedley(f): 9:09am On Jun 11, 2018
Quite baffling the level of expletives and insults flying around here.
Please maintain some decorum and civility. Well, it just a snap shot of our everyday Hospital (war zone) bickering. embarassed
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by JoannaSedley(f): 9:14am On Jun 11, 2018
TempoJames:
It marvels me when I see ignorance cry so loud. You mean in your entire professional life both as Bcs in Mcb n medlab technology u were never taught candida albicans is a microflora in vagina that becomes pathogenic in conditions where the pH is disturbed such as using soaps to wash the area, in immunosuppression,diabetics n pregnancy? You really mean you dont know d risk factors of candidasis?Then you are a bastard technician.


I don't need to quote any link. I'm an authority in pathology.
You graduated 2012? you are a kid to me. This yr is making me 11 years in practise and 3 years as a consultant.


Boy you have a long way to go.
James, you have to back up your claims as a professional you claimed to be. No sane professional will swallow a massive argument like this without concrete evidence.
Remember Nigerians are watching.
If you are an authority as you claimed prove it or withdraw quietly.

Don't bother throwing expletives my way as it will be ignored as always.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by TempoJames(m): 9:28am On Jun 11, 2018
JoannaSedley:
James, you have to back up your claims as a professional you claimed to be. No sane professional will swallow a massive argument like this without concrete evidence.
Remember Nigerians are watching.
If you are an authority as you claimed prove it or withdraw quietly.

Don't bother throwing expletives my way as it will be ignored as always.


Mr.Bigiman gave the idiot upto 4 references/links that candida is a microflora yet he refuses to clam down and receive knowledge. I'm an authority he should qoute me then.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by JoannaSedley(f): 9:38am On Jun 11, 2018
TempoJames:



Mr.Bigiman gave the idiot upto 4 references/links that candida is a microflora yet he refuses to clam down and receive knowledge. I'm an authority he should qoute me then.
Authority does not insult rather they teach. Yours is on the contrary. That is quite disturbing and you give up too easily. Everybody must not agree with your position until you have proved your points beyond every reasonable doubts.

People are reading this and from where I am nelsx arguments has strong conviction. My practise is evidenced based, so I need more than a strong conviction, so if you have it....spill

Commensal or pathogen which one.?
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by TempoJames(m): 9:44am On Jun 11, 2018
phase1:


You are a bloody liar. Go to Sun newspaper office and ask them for a Copy of their Nov 28 2014 publication in their archives. The Sun newspaper published throughout 2014 and I bought it everyday. How can a vendor (who might even illiterate) have a 2014 publication. Are you are a trisomic mor0n?

Stop ridiculing yourself. Your colleagues will be ashamed of you.

You remain a bastard my friend. I also searched their archives online. No such headline exists. Just prove me wrong by screen shoting the headline,article n error of Enabulele. I will just keep shut if you do so.
Untill then I see you as a bastard.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by babajeje123(m): 9:50am On Jun 11, 2018
MrBigiman:


This is not a office. I don't except someone to mutter expletives and for us to keep quiet. Like a dude who kept saying Candida is not a normal comensal, and saying I am a disgrace. This is social media and such a person has to be answered very appropriately.

Yes everyone agrees that the major client in the hospital is the Patient. But the person that sets everyother allied staff to motion is the Doctor. He tells the scientists what investigations to do, tells the nurses how frequently to dress a wound, books a patient for surgery and performs it, if not the theatre staffs with all their equipments are redundant. He writes down drugs to be diapensed and order for physical therapy. If the patient doesn't get better he runs back to the Doctor to complain about the outcome.

Doctors are managers, at it's part of our MBBS training, and a very core part at that. That's why Doctors don't lie during strike or constitute thugs around hospital facilities during industrial actions. We know what true leadership entail, and deal with utmost sincerity and integrity. Not the lying Biobelemoye who claimed house officers earn above 300k, and is still fighting for leadership.
There is no Superman in healthcare delivery. Excessive workload is always a recipe for mistakes, some of which could be costly.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by TempoJames(m): 9:53am On Jun 11, 2018
JoannaSedley:
Authority does not insult rather they teach. Yours is on the contrary. That is quite disturbing and you give up too easily. Everybody must not agree with your position until you have proved your points beyond every reasonable doubts.

People are reading this and from where I am nelsx arguments has strong conviction. My practise is evidenced based, so I need more than a strong conviction, so if you have it....spill

Commensal or pathogen which one.?


My friend, the boy knows the truth he just wants to protect his ego. He argues that candida albicans is not a microflora but he ignorantly spilled out that candida albicans is a commensal. I'm sure he doesn't know that 'commensal' is a type of 'microflora'.
Some ignorance can only be corrected by strong cautioning and flogging. Infact sometimes I use tendon hammer to knock the head of some medical students when they exude nonsense to cast out spirit of ignorance. That is the same thing I would have done to nelxz, a student-technician.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by TempoJames(m): 9:59am On Jun 11, 2018
nelszx:

Idiot I've told you the more you justify the more you expose your ignorance. Candida albicans is no vaginal flora (back your claim) i am sure you don't know 3 things causes vaginitis, but I won't let you wallow in your ignorance I'd gladly tell you. They are:
1. Trichomonas vaginalis
2. Candida albicans
3. Bacterial vaginosis

Candida has never been a vaginal flora but a strong and occasional transient pathogen that causes vaginitis. Anything that alters pH (induce lactobacilli) my brother is a pathogen.
If I whip your mouth with something


Only as an opportunist not a true pathogen of the urinary tract. But when all conditions are right (no catheter or debilitation), my friend it's a commensal like in the case I told you.
The two major Staphylococcus that are primarily urinary pathogen are aureus and saprophyticus.



And you don't know the meaning of commensal? you remain stupid my friend.
Now add s.epidermidis to the list. An online link can never be complete in information.
Let me refer you to an authority to clear up your ignorance. Go to any academic library and search for Davidson's textbook of medicine and read up UTI.
I know u will now say the foreign textbook is substandard.
Idiot!
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by phase1: 10:11am On Jun 11, 2018
TempoJames:


You remain a bastard my friend. I also searched their archives online. No such headline exists. Just prove me wrong by screen shoting the headline,article n error of Enabulele. I will just keep shut if you do so.
Untill then I see you as a bastard.

Let me educate your dumbhead. The sun news does not have archives from 2014 and below online. Their website once crashed and they had to rebuild and change webhost. If you get any of their archived pre-2014 articles online you can share.

The solution: Go to their offices or library and ask for a copy of their Nov 28, 2014 publication. You will see empty-headed Enabulele's article therein. I wonder why he even stopped writting, maybe they found out he was an over glorified dumbheaded physician.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by phase1: 10:32am On Jun 11, 2018
nelszx:


Did you see catheter on my comment slowpoke?
Oga stop being stupid over what doesn't make sense. You isolated a normal flora from an healthy patient and you are trying so hard to defend nonsense. The more you defend the obvious, the more stupid you sound. Exactly how a resident (though pardonable) isolated yeast and wrongfully wrote gram positive cocci during my internship. As usual resistance everywhere, not until we traced it back and saw oga was mistaking yeast for GPC.

And Mr know it all the catheter doesn't pick up any bacteria it's just the bacteria that produces biofilm around the catheterised site. You are talking of S.epiderdimis uti when you should be worried about prosthetic heart disease that's if it's their (cos it wasn't in the case I illustrated).

Thumbs up bro. These morons have butchered many patients with fake laboratory results as they claim to be pathologists who must head the Scientist. Some of them can't even differentiate a fluoride oxalate bottle from an EDTA bottle.

The Medical Scientist remains the king of medical laboratory practice as enacted by the Act 11 of 2003 constitution. They can wail on and shout 'techinician' till thy kingdom come. It won't change the constitution. Many technicians are even intelligent than them in medical laboratory knowledge.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by TempoJames(m): 11:37am On Jun 11, 2018
phase1:


Let me educate your dumbhead. The sun news does not have archives from 2014 and below online. Their website once crashed and they had to rebuild and change webhost. If you get any of their archived pre-2014 articles online you can share.

The solution: Go to their offices or library and ask for a copy of their Nov 28, 2014 publication. You will see empty-headed Enabulele's article therein. I wonder why he even stopped writting, maybe they found out he was an over glorified dumbheaded physician.


You remain a bastard my friend.

Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by MrBigiman: 12:58pm On Jun 11, 2018
JoannaSedley:
Authority does not insult rather they teach. Yours is on the contrary. That is quite disturbing and you give up too easily. Everybody must not agree with your position until you have proved your points beyond every reasonable doubts.

People are reading this and from where I am nelsx arguments has strong conviction. My practise is evidenced based, so I need more than a strong conviction, so if you have it....spill

Commensal or pathogen which one.?

U and your bandwagons of near clowns are the one spewing expletives and irrationalities. I gave him references and he goes ahead to say, he cannot believe that a University graduate could be that ignorant, and ended up claiming Wikipedia wasn't a good reference. I used Patient.info, US national library and the clown couldn't own up to his wrong.

Biobelemoye the President of Johesu set this ugly precedence, by claiming house officers earn over 300k on National TV. If the head can be that callous, then Johesu has no moral basis for any struggle, but should be assumed as biological terrorist. I cautioned Templejames from engaging in any Educational discuss with technicians and I guess he sees why.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by phase1: 1:23pm On Jun 11, 2018
TempoJames:



You remain a bastard my friend.

Oga butcher, go to their office library and get a hardcopy of the Sun news dated Nov, 28, 2014 in their archives. You won't find copies of very old articles on their new website. I repeat the article is on page 38 of that paper. It's about 4 years old.

Your expletives and innuendos won't change the truth.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by JoannaSedley(f): 5:40pm On Jun 11, 2018
MrBigiman:


U and your bandwagons of near clowns are the one spewing expletives and irrationalities. I gave him references and he goes ahead to say, he cannot believe that a University graduate could be that ignorant, and ended up claiming Wikipedia wasn't a good reference. I used Patient.info, US national library and the clown couldn't own up to his wrong.

Biobelemoye the President of Johesu set this ugly precedence, by claiming house officers earn over 300k on National TV. If the head can be that callous, then Johesu has no moral basis for any struggle, but should be assumed as biological terrorist. I cautioned Templejames from engaging in any Educational discuss with technicians and I guess he sees why.
Enough of the jabs. Arguing with you is just wasting time, you lots believe you know it all. You are having your ass.es handed over to you here.
Go cry to yo mama FG & NMA as always to shutdown nairaland grin

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Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by jedisco(m): 7:25pm On Jun 11, 2018
JoannaSedley:
Enough of the jabs. Arguing with you is just wasting time, you lots believe you know it all. You are having your ass.es handed over to you here.
Go cry to yo mama FG & NMA as always to shutdown nairaland grin

Even though you seem to be a nurse, you should be able to stand for the truth when it's so obvious.

While I fault the docs for being too expletive (which seems an easy path when someone continues to show crass ignorance), the superior knowledge in their argument is obvious


Like one of my lecturers would always say, the man who knows "how" would get his daily bread but the man who knows "why" would always be his boss.
These are cases of people who know "how" and "why" vs. people who barely know "how"

The principle ("why" ) behind which a normal commensal can become a pathogen (in those cases mentioned) is so basic that even a secondary school art student would understand the concept in minutes.

We should all work together, understand and respect each persons role in moving the Nigerian health sector forward.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by doofanc: 7:32pm On Jun 11, 2018
This clown is at it again. . . grin grin grin

So other Johesu members are not needed in Europe, pray, WHAT THE BLITHERING **** HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING? shocked shocked shocked shocked GEEEZ!

Its pointless really, but let me just give it a try: Oga Dokinta OP, opening multiple, hopelessly idiotic, embarrassingly inane and achingly IQ-bereft threads will not cure your protracted ED. What is needed is a phosphodiesterase inhibitor type 5, sildenafil and the likes.

Rather than concentrate how your ilk have rubbished the health system, making it one of the worst in the world (WHO report 2000), at par with war torn countries like Rawanda and the rest, you've busied yourself with how PharmD, the business of a totally different autonomous professional is not needed in Europe. Chei!!

Honestly, if that does not eloquently fit the definition of uselessness, I really dont know what does.

A poster actually questioned if he's really a doctor. I totally agree. For what its worth, there are a number of respectable, refined clinicians especially those in the NGO (HIV) sector where I work, who have mutual respect for other professionals, not these stethoscope clinging agberos in the public sector, the type OP and his like typify.

Well I given my advise. Vega, Viagra etc will do just fine grin

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Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by JoannaSedley(f): 7:50pm On Jun 11, 2018
jedisco:


Even though you seem to be a nurse, you should be able to stand for the truth when it's so obvious.

While I fault the docs for being too expletive (which seems an easy path when someone continues to show crass ignorance), the superior knowledge in their argument is obvious


Like one of my lecturers would always say, the man who knows "how" would get his daily bread but the man who knows "why" would always be his boss.
These are cases of people who know "how" and "why" vs. people who barely know "how"

The principle ("why" ) behind which a normal commensal can become a pathogen (in those cases mentioned) is so basic that even a secondary school art student would understand the concept in minutes.

We should all work together, understand and respect each persons role in moving the Nigerian health sector forward.
Your third paragraph is the bone of contention here. Teaching and learning is not a do or die affair. Many impressionable minds are reading this and will need clarifications and textbook evidences not a submission from an annonymous posters.
My main grouse is, why can't they explain and discuss things clearly without insults like they do in reddit medicine.?
Will that be too hard to do.?


FYI, the physicians started the insults first and I refuse to be a party or indulge in that.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by MrBigiman: 8:29pm On Jun 11, 2018
JoannaSedley:
Your third paragraph is the bone of contention here. Teaching and learning is not a do or die affair. Many impressionable minds are reading this and will need clarifications and textbook evidences not a submission from an annonymous posters.
My main grouse is, why can't they explain and discuss things clearly without insults like they do in reddit medicine.?
Will that be too hard to do.?


FYI, the physicians started the insults first and I refuse to be a party or indulge in that.

Your bais is evident to the visually impaired. I not only tutored that kid running a chewing gum masters, and went ahead to post references, but his opinionated mind too stubborn to agree.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by nelszx: 8:45pm On Jun 11, 2018
MrBigiman:


Your bais is evident to the visually impaired. I not only tutored that kid running a chewing gum masters, and went ahead to post references, but his opinionated mind too stubborn to agree.

And what is it you tutored me.
You can only tutor what you know
I've been busy to reply the numerous mentions
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by nelszx: 9:29pm On Jun 11, 2018
If you can be civil without insult or use of derogatory words then let's have a clean argument and we'll see how it goes.
Gamed??
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by MrBigiman: 10:48pm On Jun 11, 2018
nelszx:
If you can be civil without insult or use of derogatory words then let's have a clean argument and we'll see how it goes.
Gamed??

What argument. That patient.info is not accurate or NCBLI is not a good reference.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by nelszx: 10:55pm On Jun 11, 2018
MrBigiman:


What argument. That patient.info is not accurate or NCBLI is not a good reference.
You said you tutored me so based on your tutor can we have a descent discussion? Just indicate interest let's proceed from there
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by MrBigiman: 11:11pm On Jun 11, 2018
nelszx:

You said you tutored me so based on your tutor can we have a descent discussion? Just indicate interest let's proceed from there

Goodnyt my brother, not this night. U blew ur chances when u laughed at me for saying that Candida could be a normal comensal in the gut and vagina, an assertion u are too proud to admit u goofed on.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by nelszx: 12:00am On Jun 12, 2018
MrBigiman:


Goodnyt my brother, not this night. U blew ur chances when u laughed at me for saying that Candida could be a normal comensal in the gut and vagina, an assertion u are too proud to admit u goofed on.

Hahaha I'm not proud neither did I goof
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by Freddonance(m): 9:22am On Jun 13, 2018
So this thread is finally death?? was really enjoying it o
where is Mr MLSD( Phase1 & Nelszx)

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Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by babajeje123(m): 10:40am On Jun 13, 2018
@phase1 & Nelszx, please your attention is needed on this thread o
https://www.nairaland.com/4556751/noun-law-school-conflict-nans/1

Your brother, bigfornothing or whatever he calls himself wants to use me to rubbish your profession, knowing fully well that I can't refute his lies. Make una come defend your self o.
yeye!!!
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by nelszx: 3:15pm On Jun 13, 2018
MrBigiman:


I have nothing to argue with u. It's either u hold on to ur stance that Candida can't be a normal flora or commensal of the human body, or u admits it's an error. There's no point arguing with a man who has made up his mind to be ignorant. Its even a rare privilege that I made that input, as I try as much as possible to avoid medical talks with non-core medical staffs, as there is really nothing much u bring to the table, I don't need ur input. Treat the tests I ordered, and treat it fast, as my patients are my priority. That the only connection between me and u.

Mr Bigiman

You are missing it thank God my post are there for everyone to see. I'm not a coward who leaves to fight another day. I never said Candida can't be a commensal of the human body. What I'm particulate about is he said Candida is a normal flora in high vagina which i have disputed and you came bringing nonsense for me to see why Candida is a normal flora (which you didn't get the basis before jumping into an argument you have deficiency knowledge in).
Hahaha a rare privilege indeed,

If you are ready stop this hide and seek and put your knowledge to academic discuss and quit being a coward.

P.S: Let me even ask you;
1. Which form of Candida in the high vagina is the normal flora; the yeast or the hyphated phase?
2. If it's a commensal, why then does it cause superficial inflammation/infection in the high vagina when all conditions are right (no antibiotic and alteration in vagina pH).
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by MrBigiman: 3:35pm On Jun 13, 2018
nelszx:


You are missing it thank God my post are there for everyone to see. I'm not a coward who leaves to fight another day. I never said Candida can't be a commensal of the human body. What I'm particulate about is he said Candida is a normal flora in high vagina which i have disputed and you came bringing nonsense for me to see why Candida is a normal flora (which you didn't get the basis before jumping into an argument you have deficiency knowledge in).
Hahaha a rare privilege indeed,

If you are ready stop this hide and seek and put your knowledge to academic discuss and quit being a coward.

P.S: Let me even ask you;
1. Which form of Candida in the high vagina is the normal flora; the yeast or the hyphated phase?
2. If it's a commensal, why then does it cause superficial inflammation/infection in the high vagina when all conditions are right (no antibiotic and alteration in vagina pH).

Pathetic looser u have chosen to be.
Re: How Many Johesu Members Apart From Nurses Are Needed In Europe by nelszx: 3:41pm On Jun 13, 2018
MrBigiman:


Pathetic looser u have chosen to be.

If you're so learned in academic discuss why not counter my claim instead of engaging in a knowledge seeking academic discuss. Oga you can't give what you don't have, this isn't garbage in garbage out.

If I see a superior argument I don't run away because knowledge is dynamic (I'm open to learning even If it's coming from a stupid person). If you have knowledge you'll gladly flaunt it.

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