Kebbi state has proximate fed. University within the state located at Kalgo. Why will it be under sokoto? That of Bayelsa is understandable however, the fed. Govt should make sure they also have a fed. University there because they worth it.

The thing is most Conventional Universities award B.Sc in Engineering to their Engineering graduates and BSc, BA etc while Universities of Technology awards B.Eng and B.Tech to Technology/Applied Science Courses.

B.Tech is awarded to graduates mostly from Universities of Technology & Agriculture like FUTA, FUTMINNA, FUTO, FUNAAB..etc except Engineering students (B.Eng)
And it is always a 5year degree programme unlike the 4year B.Sc programme

Jackossky:
So, what's the difference between B. Tech and HND.
We can just simply say, certificate changed name.
So, it will still face the same discrimination.
Do you remember when NEPA was changed to PHCN?
What's the difference between the two?

Oya fun won legbe gbe

Phinity318:
lies ....I read ds same news some 4yrs ago...& every word veebatim as it were except fr change of ministers name and oda few editing

Baba the thing tire me o..

Every year. One blogger will just do copy and paste. Then mod will approve with speed of light.

I could perceived ignorance at it peak here.... What is the difference among Bcs, BENG, and BTECH? all is bachelor degree, you people should read history of the world "degree" from different Countries point of view before making jest of ourselves here... What of Ireland that award Bachelor of Art in Engineering, what would you people call it...
Degree is degree throughout the world irrespective of your course of Study.

Nigeria yet to understand education structure, despite the number of academia in the country....

Ghana first initiate this development, Nigeria just follow without looking at the flaws and better it for their own advantage. if you want to plagiarized idea, do it brilliantly. what is the essence of ND again? it is almost useless. it has a less international recognition. Better still, cant we scrap polytechnic completely and initiate a professional technology based institution that will be supervised by the already established industry . This is how country such as Germany become a technological hub.

Galadimat:
Nigeria Scraps Award of HND Certificates by Polytechnics – The Federal Executive Council (FEC) yesterday approved a comprehensive reform of Nigeria’s tertiary education system, scrapping the award of the Higher National Diploma (HND) by the nation’s polytechnics.
In effect, the award of the HND will be limited to only the students currently admitted for the programmes.
Also, all the programmes currently being run by the polytechnics, which are not technology-based, and which are about 70 per cent, will be scrapped.
Under the new rule, the polytechnics will now become campuses of the proximate universities with the Vice Chancellors of those universities appointing provosts for the polytechnics, subject to the ratification of the Universities Councils.
The polytechnics will now be limited to award of the National Diploma (ND) while those desirous of further education will be awarded the Bachelor of Technology (B. Tech) by the proximate university.
To kick-start the new policy, the nation’s two most prominent polytechnics – Yaba College of Technology and Kaduna Polytechnic – will henceforth be known as City University of Technology, Yaba and City University of Technology, Kaduna.
And to give legal teeth to these approvals, the FEC approved the submission of two Executive bills to the National Assembly for enactment into law.
With education being on the concurrent list, the states may wish to consolidate their tertiary institutions. But if they do not wish to follow the federal example, their programmes will continue to be regulated by the relevant agencies of the Federal Ministry of Education.
The first bill will concretise the setting up of the two city universities while the second will approve the preparation and consolidation of all federal polytechnics and colleges of education as campuses of proximate universities.
The Ministry of Justice will do the preparation and submission of the two bills to the National Assembly.
Minister of Education, Mall. Adamu, told journalists after the weekly meeting of the council that under the reform measures, her ministry would, however, continue to licence private polytechnics and colleges of education for the award of qualification at ND and National Certificate in Education (NCE) levels.
She said: “There will be no more award of HND.
After we have exhausted the current students under the programme, there will be no more award of HND. This means that there will be no fresh admission for HND programmes. And in addition, any programme that is not technical will be out of the polytechnics. About 70 per cent of polytechnic graduates are in the non-technical courses. It is going to be a rigorous implementation programme.”
A ministerial committee to ensure the smooth implementation of all that is required for the take-off of the reform initiatives is to begin work immediately.
Mall. Adamu said: “The HND certificate will remain a legal tender in Nigeria and holders of such certificate will continue to be recognised as the equivalent of first degree holders without discriminatory remunerations and limit to progression in the work place.
The NCE certificate will be retained as the minimum teaching qualification at the basic level of education. Any higher qualifications by these private or state-owned polytechnics will be only affiliation with a university. So, HND is no longer in existence, but existing HND will be respected and considered legal tender.”
The council also approved the Federal Government’s formal take-over of the Waziri Umaru Polytechnic, Birnin Kebbi, which will be the College of Technology campus of the Othman Dan Fodio University, Sokoto, as well as the Hussein Adamu Polytechnic, Kazaure, Bauchi, which will be a College of Technology of the proximate university in the state.
Also, the Alvan Ikoku College of Education, Owerri, Imo State, has been taken over as a campus of the Federal University of Technology, Owerri.
A state that had never had any federal institution, like Bayelsa, is to have a College of Technology as a campus of the College of Technology of the University of Port Harcourt.

https://www.financialwatchngr.com/2018/06/05/nigeria-scraps-award-of-hnd-certificates-by-polytechnics/amp/

Alas, one of the most cheering news from this Government.
At least allowing this to see the light of the day starting almost 8 years ago.

Now, the second part is mandating the NUC to standardize our universities curriculum and course content/programme to be at par with the Sydney Accord, Washington Accord and any of the acceptable accords.

The Education Minister should be given the following milestone to achieve.

1. Get all our university programs certified and ractify by any1 of these accords.

2. Show beyond reasonable doubt, via comprehensive English Language Course structure using the internationally recognized method of measure of proficiency in Reading/Writing/Speaking and Listening for English Language.

Get Nigerian spoken English variously documented, and measured with other English Speaking Nations to achieving an acceptance worldwide for its standard based on the measures listed above.

This will serve dual purpose of legalizing what is known all over the world already and also stop the current waste of funds used for IELTS/TOEFL Exams that serves no useful purpose for us.

If I lie, ask the late Chuka Okadigbo, Eziefe, Wole Soyinka, Chimamanda and numerous others too many mention.

To make us take these belittling exams is an affront given our contribution to the robustness of English Language itself.

3. Make our universities programmes relevant to national development.
How?
Make sure Technology/Engineering Theories are taught in the first 2 years of university.
Mandate all multinationals and local manufacturing/production Companies as part of National Service under a declared Emergency on Education to undertake CAMS study for the next 2 years with corresponding CAMS agent in all these companies making reports to the school about their students.

And in exchange grant 1 to 5 percent tax reliefs for their help with regards to this national assignment.

Secondly, all Professor/Doctors will be only allowed to retain their degree/certification if they contribute to the world body of Knowledge in their respective fields at least once every 2 years via R&.

If no meaning advancement of the body of knowledge in their respective fields is forthcoming after 2 years, such certification be suspended until such a time, he can meaningfully add/contributes to the advancement of knowledge or invent/innovates something that solves a national problem or world’s problem and if after 5 years he still is not inspired, demote him or kick him out of the academia.

Thirdly, for other courses a similar 1 year understudy after the third year of school should be initiated with non-engineering/technology based companies catering for these sectors.

Doctors and medical education are doing okay in this segment but more importantly the performance based or innovation based retainership of their certificates should be stringent more than before as much they require brilliant minds in this field.

This way we will set ourselves up for educational greatness, Intellectual vibrancy and development.

mfm04622:


Don't waste your time and money. HND and degree are now equal. You don't need to convert anything.

If they were not only equal on newspapers and magazine.

Galadimat:


how can u compare B TECH with HND. It takes good 5 years to obtain the former in any university of technology and its rated higher than BSC.

You even have time to waste answering such silly person. His type have infested Nairaland and other social media platforms to such levels that people are closing their accounts to maintain their sanity

Galadimat:
Nigeria Scraps Award of HND Certificates by Polytechnics – The Federal Executive Council (FEC) yesterday approved a comprehensive reform of Nigeria’s tertiary education system, scrapping the award of the Higher National Diploma (HND) by the nation’s polytechnics.
In effect, the award of the HND will be limited to only the students currently admitted for the programmes.
Also, all the programmes currently being run by the polytechnics, which are not technology-based, and which are about 70 per cent, will be scrapped.
Under the new rule, the polytechnics will now become campuses of the proximate universities with the Vice Chancellors of those universities appointing provosts for the polytechnics, subject to the ratification of the Universities Councils.
The polytechnics will now be limited to award of the National Diploma (ND) while those desirous of further education will be awarded the Bachelor of Technology (B. Tech) by the proximate university.
To kick-start the new policy, the nation’s two most prominent polytechnics – Yaba College of Technology and Kaduna Polytechnic – will henceforth be known as City University of Technology, Yaba and City University of Technology, Kaduna.
And to give legal teeth to these approvals, the FEC approved the submission of two Executive bills to the National Assembly for enactment into law.
With education being on the concurrent list, the states may wish to consolidate their tertiary institutions. But if they do not wish to follow the federal example, their programmes will continue to be regulated by the relevant agencies of the Federal Ministry of Education.
The first bill will concretise the setting up of the two city universities while the second will approve the preparation and consolidation of all federal polytechnics and colleges of education as campuses of proximate universities.
The Ministry of Justice will do the preparation and submission of the two bills to the National Assembly.
Minister of Education, Mall. Adamu, told journalists after the weekly meeting of the council that under the reform measures, her ministry would, however, continue to licence private polytechnics and colleges of education for the award of qualification at ND and National Certificate in Education (NCE) levels.
She said: “There will be no more award of HND.
After we have exhausted the current students under the programme, there will be no more award of HND. This means that there will be no fresh admission for HND programmes. And in addition, any programme that is not technical will be out of the polytechnics. About 70 per cent of polytechnic graduates are in the non-technical courses. It is going to be a rigorous implementation programme.”
A ministerial committee to ensure the smooth implementation of all that is required for the take-off of the reform initiatives is to begin work immediately.
Mall. Adamu said: “The HND certificate will remain a legal tender in Nigeria and holders of such certificate will continue to be recognised as the equivalent of first degree holders without discriminatory remunerations and limit to progression in the work place.
The NCE certificate will be retained as the minimum teaching qualification at the basic level of education. Any higher qualifications by these private or state-owned polytechnics will be only affiliation with a university. So, HND is no longer in existence, but existing HND will be respected and considered legal tender.”
The council also approved the Federal Government’s formal take-over of the Waziri Umaru Polytechnic, Birnin Kebbi, which will be the College of Technology campus of the Othman Dan Fodio University, Sokoto, as well as the Hussein Adamu Polytechnic, Kazaure, Bauchi, which will be a College of Technology of the proximate university in the state.
Also, the Alvan Ikoku College of Education, Owerri, Imo State, has been taken over as a campus of the Federal University of Technology, Owerri.
A state that had never had any federal institution, like Bayelsa, is to have a College of Technology as a campus of the College of Technology of the University of Port Harcourt.

https://www.financialwatchngr.com/2018/06/05/Nigerian scrap seaward O'Erpolytechnics/amp/

Note the first time we've heard this news in this country. Stop confusing the young and innocent students

Dreadful:
If they were not only equal on newspapers and magazine.

FG has made entry point for both graduates equal in the civil services. In the private sector, most organisations don't discriminate so no issue there

vaxx:
Nigeria yet to understand education structure, despite the number of academia in the country....

Ghana first initiate this development, Nigeria just follow without looking at the flaws and better it for their own advantage. if you want to plagiarized idea, do it brilliantly. what is the essence of ND again? it is almost useless. it has a less international recognition. Better still, cant we scrap polytechnic completely and initiate a professional technology based institution that will be supervised by the already established industry . This is how country such as Germany become a technological hub.

What is the flaw in this? The essence of polytechnics is to produce intermediate professionals. Which all companies need. For example, polytechnics will produce draughtsmen after 2 years. Don't architects need them? Same for electricians. Graduates from polytechnics after 2 year can work with the certificates they obtain.

janeobasi24:


I disagree with you Sir.... University of Technology offers additional courses. Did you do courses like Engineering Drawing, Engineering Workshop Practice etc?

xtivin:
HND is higher than B.Tech on ground. That's why I will always employ a polytechnic graduate in Engineering over a university graduate or better still a university graduate that has an OND. Companies knows this. Before you criticize me, am a university graduate

LOL...

I bet the companies that knows it knows it well

Hope this won't affect the present hnd

Jackossky:
So, what's the difference between B. Tech and HND.
We can just simply say, certificate changed name.
So, it will still face the same discrimination.
Do you remember when NEPA was changed to PHCN?
What's the difference between the two?

I believe u don’t know the full meaning of B. Tech....

Nedfed:
I was in my ND1 in 2006 when they came with such promises of scrapping HND and adopt B.tech but all was false. After my ND programme with a year Industrial Training (IT) I crossed to the university to further my studies. My people this is 2018 (12yrs after) I av banged Degree, Master's Degree and also running some professional programs yet Polytechnics have not stop awarding HND to their products. Am not here to discriminate cos polytechnics still stand has a gateway to my success but just that don't be deceive by this so called useless govt of our country. Believe in yourself and what you have and I see will all achieving our DREAMS.

Whoever you feel you are, please read and understand informations before you comment on social media, it's not a must write for everybody so don't call my beloved country and govt useless, I think you are useless here. Back then its was HND equivalent to Bsc but today HND is srcapped with immediate effect, then it was from Ministry of education but today it's from Federal excecutive councils, the highest decision making body in Nigeria. Always get facts right before you right. Please don't insult our country again. Thanks. LONG LIVE NIGERIAN PRESIDENT, LONG LIVE THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA.

I saw this news on vanguard newspaper 12hours ago, so it's very true

I hope this will stop the discrimination against graduates of polytechnics

mfm04622:


FG has made entry point for both graduates equal in the civil services. In the private sector, most organisations don't discriminate so no issue there

Bro did you just applied for the recent FG job recruitments? Prisons, Fire and FRSC? HND holders wasn't asked to apply in same cadre with degree holders. You can ask around.

bros856:
Whoever you feel you are, please read and understand informations before you comment on social media, it's not a must write for everybody so don't call my beloved country and govt useless, I think you are useless here. Back then its was HND equivalent to Bsc but today HND is srcapped (but scrapped) with immediate effect, then it was from Ministry of education but today it's from Federal excecutive councils, the highest decision making body in Nigeria. Always get facts right before you right. Please don't insult our country again. Thanks. LONG LIVE NIGERIAN PRESIDENT, LONG LIVE THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA.

Firstly, u must be very stupiid for insulting me young man. It shows u lacks proper home training but I will not blame you but rather blame ur parents who refused to use just a single golden circle to prevent ur coming.
It will be things of joy to me if the fed govt can achieve it/this cos am a polytechnic product and also av friends & families in the system.

Galadimat:


how can u compare B TECH with HND. It takes good 5 years to obtain the former in any university of technology and its rated higher than BSC.

In the normal norms, polytechnic is based on technology alone and they have practical knowledge more than University of Technology.
but now in Nigeria, we have microbiology in polytechnics(hw is that related) we also think polytechnics is inferior to University bcoz of the JAMB cutoff

Dreadful:
Bro did you just applied for the recent FG job recruitments? Prisons, Fire and FRSC? HND holders wasn't asked to apply in same cadre with degree holders. You can ask around.

Am an old man ooo. Well, that is the govt new policy and any ministry or agency not implementing it can be challenged

Maymac:


In the normal norms, polytechnic is based on technology alone and they have practical knowledge more than University of Technology.
but now in Nigeria, we have microbiology in polytechnics(hw is that related) we also think polytechnics is inferior to University bcoz of the JAMB cutoff

They are different. They are meant to produce different types of labour. Universities are meant to produce managers while Polytechnics are meant to produce professionals that will do the work. That is one of the reasons cut off is different for both since you want your best to be managers

niceprof:
Why not upgrade them to full fledged degree awarding institutions as most of them are far better than most universities. As for 70% of their courses being not tech based and needs to be scrapped,you will always need to close the various Universities of Techs,Agrics in the country as over 70% of their courses are also neither tech nor Agric based.

Policies need to be thought through before being pushed to the public domain.

exactly my point. A lot of these polytechnic have far better infrastructures compared to some federal universities.
A better policy would be to upgrade them to universities, probably under the temporary supervision of established proximate universities, pending when they get the full retinue of professors required to run their programs.
Simply rebaptise them as "universities of management and technology"
Abi The lecturers in the non-technology based courses, where are they offloading them to? The Labour market?

Maybe they feel this stupid action will enhance technological development. Nonsense. What happened to the thousand and one technological agencies and commissions being funded by the government ( I can count at least 30 of them off hand). They have not been able to manage them properly to achieve desired results. Now they are seeking another twisted policy to cause more problems.

Foolish government with ill-thought out, selfish and politically motivated policies

mfm04622:


Stop lying! How can you say polytechnics being better than Universities? You said some, mention any Polytechnic better than Universities. Lol! Even the quality of lecturers in universities and Polytechnics are not same and most will have to upgrade themselves or leave when this policy is implemented as they won't have required qualification to teach in Universities

he is right. There are polytechnic that have from better facilities compared to federal universities. Go to poly Nekede, then when u come out, visit the following federal universities; university of uyo, Niger delta university, All nine new federal universities, university of Abuja, Modibo adama university etc. These are the ones I am sure do not compare with the facilities in a school like Nekede.
Now just think about kadpoly, yaba tech, Auchi poly, Bida poly, Oko poly.......These are all mega schools that have facilities to compare with universities. They shud be converted too. Not just kaduna and yaba. Having professors is not a big deal. Visiting professors from proximate universities can always be engaged. Or the programs can temporarily be placed under the supervision of professors from proximate universities

janeobasi24:


I disagree with you Sir.... University of Technology offers additional courses. Did you do courses like Engineering Drawing, Engineering Workshop Practice etc?

yes they do

Timekeeper:




Staled news.. Na so them dey talk since I enter poly in 2012

Since 2005.

Can it be true now?
FAKE NEWS

Fran6ik:
u got B.ENG not B. SC.. after 5yrs u dont know wat ur graduated with.. sad

[quote author=Jackossky post=68214624]So, what's th

urose93:


Stop making fool of yourself. You obtained B.Sc in Engineering? please what is the meaning of B.Sc?

why are young people quick to insult and argue what they arent certain of?

the dude has said he got a B.Sc Eng from Unilag. You should confirm this first before you rush to type with those ill-mannered fingers.

there are schools abroad that award a B.Sc in engineering FYI