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Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by damilola15: 5:33pm On Jun 04, 2010
ask those people who travel to libya how much it takes them to get there. instead of using that money to do something good, they're going to libya of all places.
Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by tundekas(m): 9:05am On Jun 05, 2010
They cry that their are no jobs in Nigeria, fine. but does that mean that spoiling 9ja name when in abroad by geting involved in drugs and criminal act is the right thing to do? abeg make em face the consequence jwo.
Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by Ibomade1: 4:58pm On Jun 06, 2010
FG pls do something oo.
Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by candylips(m): 5:49am On Jun 07, 2010
very sad
Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by waladis(m): 8:16am On Jun 07, 2010
daytona500:

Nigerians abroad have contributed positively to the economy. Most of the so called fast food at home now such as TFC and the like were established by Nigerians in diaspora, and these have created jobs for many. Also, technologically, Nigerians have brought in fresh and constructive ideas to the nation. In Ghana now, Nigerians are doing very well because of their stable economy.

There are lot of Nigerians all over the world and there is hardly any country where you won't find them. The numbers of  Nigerians that are returning back home to invest regardless of how they get there money are nothing to be compared to the ones that had already made up there mind to die in another man's land despite all the danger, discrimination and insult they received from the host countries. The Northerners face the same problems as the Southerners eventhough they are geographically closer to North Africa and Europe and share the same religion and similar culture but are not as keen and desperate to travel abroad as we Southerners instead most of them would prefer to die as beggars in their own country beside their family rather than to be killed like chickens in a country like Libya. I would also like you guys to bear it in mind that it is not only Libya that murdered the black Africans anyhow, countries like Morocco and Algeria have done the same in the past. This countries have deported a lot of black African into the middle of the desert rather than being deported straight to their countries, they were left in thousands without no food and water to die in the middle of the desert. Is this really worth all this search for greener pasture?

daytona500:

Though there is no place like home but we need to explore other nations for ideas because whatever we have been doing for the past forty years are not working for us.

I agree that we need to explore other nations for ideas but only if we are wellcome by the host nation and not at the expense of our precious life.
For example, something like this (see the link below) make me sick and if you ask me, I really don't blame any of this white guys in the Forum and in their country.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-305386.0.html
Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by waladis(m): 10:16pm On Jun 07, 2010
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6256679.ece

Migrant warns africans of misery in europe

N African in Paris is appealing to his countrymen to stay at home rather than risk their lives attempting to break into “fortress Europe”, where, he says, they will be miserable.

Omar Ba, from Senegal, in west Africa, says Europe is not the promised land imagined by Africans; instead it is almost impossible to find a job or somewhere to live and people are unfriendly to foreigners.

“I came in search of happiness,” said Ba, 28, in a cafe in Paris last week. “I found solitude and depression.”

He is luckier than most because his book I Came, I Saw, I Believe No More has turned the child of impoverished smoked-fish sellers into a minor celebrity and has put a human face on the plight of African “boat people”.

Ba, who grew up in a former leper colony, blames bad government in Africa rather than Europe’s immigration policies for the tragic deaths at sea of thousands of would-be immigrants in recent years. “If Africa provided just a minimum for its people, do you think so many would leave?” he said.

They are lured to Europe by hopes of prosperity drummed into them from an early age by a society reliant on remittances from overseas workers. Yet Ba soon discovered Europe was not the paradise that his family and teachers had promised.

The only white people he had encountered before reaching Europe in 2001 on an overloaded canoe were tourists on Senegal’s beaches. “They were joyful and seemed to spend money without counting,” he writes. “They inspired me with envy and fascination.”

He was shocked to discover that some Europeans were homeless, poor and sick. Worst of all, they did not want to know him, particularly the attractive young women he had dreamt of meeting. “People avoided me,” writes Ba, who managed to enrol as a sociology student at the University of Saint-Etienne. “I made beautiful girls flee; to think that when I arrived I fantasised about having an affair with some ravishing blonde who would give me mixed-race children.”

If Europe is difficult for the natives, it is much tougher for immigrants, he writes. Even those who have lived in France for three decades are “piled up on top of each other in insalubrious apartment blocks”. Ba found a room but knew another immigrant who lived in a telephone booth. He often had to beg and rummage in bins. The only jobs on offer were sweeping streets or washing dishes and that was before the global financial meltdown.

“So now a lot of immigrants are homeless, they are turning to drink and crime,” writes Ba, who spent two years at a restaurant sink before getting a job at a charity. He notes that employment does not seem to make people less miserable: “Before stepping on European soil, I never knew what stress was . . . in Africa it is impossible to have a salary at the end of the month and be depressed.”

African immigrants prefer to perpetuate the myth about the good life, even if it means incurring debt to send money home to relatives who treat them as cash cows. “It is a matter of honour,” writes Ba. “We do not want to admit failure. The family would not accept it.”

Many new immigrants find their main contact in Europe (a friend or relative who had promised to host them in style) mysteriously vanishes when they arrive. Yet nothing seems to damp the Africans’ overwhelming desire for Europe, not even the “rotting bodies that wash up on beaches” with horrific regularity.

Ba finds the human toll particularly shocking – his first experience of death was in a swell off the coast of Morocco. Another canoe had collided with a larger vessel and although they managed to pull the survivors on board, Ba will never forget the sight of his drowned compatriots.

In the Canary Islands he told the authorities nothing, following the instructions of the trafficker who had organised his boat ride. “If they don’t know which country you come from, it is impossible for them to send you home,” he explains.

After two months in a “retention centre”, he was put on a flight to Barcelona. From there he hitched a lift to France in a refrigerated lorry and almost froze to death. He is no longer an illegal: after being expelled from France in 2002, he returned on a student visa. Yet he is thinking of going home, perhaps to work as a teacher like some of his eight siblings. He hopes others might follow his example and return to a country that needs them.

“This migratory wave is draining Africa of its lifeblood,” he writes. “I want young Africans to listen to reason. Europe is not worth risking their life for. There they will find only suffering and failure.
Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by Nobody: 10:22pm On Jun 07, 2010
^^well, i'm not sure what anybody can do.

People say they have no hope at home ie their home countries.

if the western world would develop third world african countries to a reasonable extent, the tide of immigrants would reduce.

i dont support illegal immigration, and especially not to certain countries, but if people feel they have no other alternative, they'll continue fleeing.
Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by waladis(m): 10:31pm On Jun 07, 2010
tpia.:

^^well, i'm not sure what anybody can do.

People say they have no hope at home ie their home countries.

if the western world would develop third world african countries to a reasonable extent, the tide of immigrants would reduce.

Why should the west develop third world countries, they were once like us and who developed them? We need to start finding our own feet and stop shifting the blame everytime to someone. Before it was our bad leaders and now the west. We must find a way of holding our leaders accountable for their positions and we the masses should make meaningful contribution to the society.
Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by waladis(m): 10:36pm On Jun 07, 2010
tpia.:

i dont support illegal immigration, and especially not to certain countries, but if people feel they have no other alternative, they'll continue fleeing.

Even if they travel legally, fleeing to countries where they are not wanted and might cost them their lives is never an alternative.
Re: Libya Executes Nigerians, Other Nationals by Nobody: 10:59pm On Jun 07, 2010
^^well, it obviously is for them, or their cartels

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