Riofidelio:
Please there's no need to quarrel with our neighbors over simple issues my friend, we're all humans and we're attracted to one another because life becomes tasteless when there's nobody with whom to share your thoughts. That's why true Christians fully grasp the ideal reason why Jesus goes around sharing His thoughts with people. It's only those who have nothing worthwhile to share that often turn to rage when someone else opens a podium for conversation. Wisdom becomes obvious when you're able to quench rage and not to aggravate it.Proverbs 15:1

RuthlessLeader:

Look I will show you a thread on wgere this guy was posting random nonsense. After I brought my rebuttals he disappeared. Unless you are one of his alternate monikers because you argue like him.

This is the thread: https://www.nairaland.com/4588071/presidency-releases-checklist-killings-under/4#68909515

Riofidelio:
I'm not so good in English but at least i know the true meaning of the word ARGUMENT,it's a scenario where two or more people are raising points that seems factual before each participant. But my own case differs because it's you folk that opened a podium for public discuss and you're all avoiding the light into the discuss simply due to your assumptions that i'm just one of those morons claiming Faith! So i'm not arguing with atheists i'm challenging you all to come up with something worthwhile that's good enough as a reason to throw FAITH into the garbage!

RuthlessLeader:

If you can heal an amputee with your faith and show everyone here with a video evidence and it is on the national newspapers with people from all over the world witnessing it.

AND...

You can use your faith and faith alone to write on the moon these words in bold:

Dear Nairaland Atheists,
Jesus loves you and wants you to accept him
-Love, Riofidelio.
I will believe in him

And please don't say that it is impossible. Jesus said that with faith as small as a mustard seed you can throw mountains into the sea.

Remember, with God, all things are possible.

Riofidelio:
You're quoting documents written by men like you who claims to believe in the writings and at the same time teaching them how to exercise their faith as in how they can apply wisdom to what they wrote

[s]Haha my friend, this your animosity towards Faith is now making you sound somehow to me, a wise inquisitor will keep asking thought provoking questions from what a witness SAY and agreed is practical not running ahead of the one you're supposed to query! Why not ask me how those words should be applied for benefits and stop applying the mentality of those PAGANS or ATHEISTS claiming Christians that you used to know?[/s]

RuthlessLeader:

If you can heal an amputee with your faith and show everyone here with a video evidence and it is on the national newspapers with people from all over the world witnessing it.

AND...

You can use your faith and faith alone to write on the moon these words in bold:

Dear Nairaland Atheists,
Jesus loves you and wants you to accept him
-Love, Riofidelio.
I will believe in him

And please don't say that it is impossible. Jesus said that with faith as small as a mustard seed you can throw mountains into the sea.

Remember, with God, all things are possible.

RuthlessLeader:

Is it not the same bible you are quoting to prove the existence of aliens. So the bible is now a document written by men. So jesus did not say that? Okay o.


You know what? Shame on me for even trying to reason with you. Your cognitive dissonance and insane troll logic is causing you real problems. Get real help from a psychiatrist.

Riofidelio:
This is the result of credulity! When someone just fill his brains with delusion so anytime an intelligent person reveal the stupidity in their reasoning they're pained to the marrow! But the irony of this is that Jesus actually did this to credulous religious leaders of His time, therefore don't be surprised that when you come in contact with a true Christian try to get all the facts ready because we're more than just morons thinking they have something to do with Faith whereas they're just misinformed PAGANS!

RuthlessLeader:
The only way I can see religion and other social phenomena being affected by alien life is if we are confronted by an alien civilization that wants to conquer/assimilate us.

I say this because of the examples in history. Take for instance our ancestors in their communities. Before the colonialists, they had their own languages, religions and cultural norms and practices. After they came, we got nigeria where we worship another people's God, wear their clothes and have the same mannerisms and speak their language in our own dialect.

If an alien civilization were to meet with us with an active interest in our affairs; these things would change:
Language: As the civilization would have likely have colonized other worlds, they might have a galactic lingua franca for ease of communications which earth would have to learn.
Culture: when the colonialists came to nigeria back then, we were practically a nudist culture(igbos) or wore little clothing, had barbaric practices(killing twins, osu etc) and were generally primitive in all things. Today, we have poor clothing incapable of protecting us from elements, have stupid practices like sexism and racism, and technologically have only reached the moon. The aliens would have likely have conquered all this before becoming a spacefaring people.
Religion: The aliens would be stronger than us and more advanced. It would make sense for all our present day religions to go extinct and theirs become the new world religion. Or maybe they may be a secular or atheistic society.

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johnydon22:


I knew the guy was going to break down sooner or later, tired and worn out.

He took the whole thing tad too serious and personal. Had several psychological issues due to it.

He had attention seeking disorder - Quoting anyone and everyone.

He was desperate to appear brilliant.

Developed cognitive dissonance.

Approval seeking went highroad - he even devolved to creating alternate monikers to like his own posts as soon as he makes them

Inability to grasp or comprehend opposing argument.

He came so very obsessed and engrossed in that hostile virtual world and that's a recipe to get messed up in the head.

I noticed all these things just few weeks after becoming very active again and that was why I voted to ignore him.

I knew he was a walking egg about to break any minute. And frankly I pitied him, still do.

The mental strain he incurred from his activities here could be damaging.

And the type of human he was, the type who revelled attention, didn't make it better for him, he became caught up in his own demons. Tucked in over and over again.

I knew it was a matter of time. People started to ignore him, few people replied when he quoted them, even fewer took him serious. it was enough to make him drop.

I think he is just tired, he needs a break and deservedly so.

I have advised people on this board to watch their mental healthy, especially those who take things too personal and serious.

The day I busted him liking his own post with several alternate accounts was the day I figured out how desperate, lonely and banked up his mental state was.

And honestly, I still pity him.

Hakeem12:
lol
...the guy takes himself real serious. Like his opinion must trump others. Never gonna let you have the last words on argument.

johnydon22:


As in eeehn but the problem is not even that. The problem is that his replies are always off from the point your post is making

johnydon22:


As in eeehn but the problem is not even that. The problem is that his replies are always off from the point your post is making

Hakeem12:
A clear case of cognitive dissonance. He's always trying to appear intelligent with his posts. They are always off the point truly. I only mentioned him once, hoping for a reasonable argument, his reply really summed up his mental state for me back then. I have learnt to ignore him since.

Riofidelio:
Good! that's intelligence for real,ignoring those whose power of reasoning is lower than expectation. But where there is no specific scale of measurement to determine the ponderosity of such reasoning,then no ASSUMED measurement could be reliably justified. It could only become a PARTIAL agreement arrived by few scholars of the same faculty all of whom have been taught by the same school of THOUGHT! Sir i think this boils down to the same institution "RELIGION" which is the powerful force that brings different individuals under one roof,making them to feel others are of lower intellect or less impotant!

Riofidelio:
We were created to live forever as youths on esrth with no pains in 100% security and peace of mind. Each man with his own woman,in a house of our choice,having a garden big full of nourishing foods,with animals around to do certain things that we can't as we command them! That is God's plan before creating humans on Earth,i'm sorry it's more than a sentence so can you ask your questions now regarding "aliens"?

Hakeem12:
Right on, a religious person reads one book no better than other books on mythology and assumes he knows all. A scientist reads dozens of books and still knows there's a lot to be known. It takes a strong will for knowledge and rationality to abandon religion. But still, I don't blame most religious people, the fear of hell for one, and then a promise of a place where the river flows with milk and wine, where there is no more sadness, despair, fear or any negative emotions and humans will be inacapable of bad thoughts. Stories children should even be flogged for if they believe in them, are why some people really practise it.The dream of an eutopia, which we can even try to achieve here on earth with secular morality which trumps religion morality.

Riofidelio:
Hmmmmmmmmm well let me say thanks for saying your mind about the various books of religion,you've really given it a thorough thought however i want you to know that books makes sense ONLY to those having the same line of thought or mindset like their authors. The Bible is not just ONE single book but a volume of 66 books complied as one big book!

eterisan:


You know you are wrong, the Bible is not made up of 66 books. It's just a collection of what was conveniently compiled by the early Christian church. Why is it that the dead sea scrolls have not yet been added or is it not from same source. Or why is the good news bible containing more books.

BTW you have completely derailed this thread.

I will give you evidence of UFO occurrence or alien life in the Bible.

Riofidelio:
Well we learn everyday so it's a profitable thing adding to the information you've already gotten in the past,however i'm commenting on the main available printed copies that is always accessible to everyone,the case of other books not added is another topic of discuss on it's own,but let's concentrate on the ones gotten for the main time. So do you have questions pertaining to what the common available bible says or you want to share in the discussion by enlightening us more about the "alien lives'? Thank you!

eterisan:
why should we ignore what is written in the other ones. Doesn't it make us to deal with just half truths? I will add to this discussion on alien life using the Bible, but if and only if you have had an UFO sighting, else I won't waste my time or yours just for you to debunk.

tartar9:
“And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and earth and what creatures He has dispersed throughout them . And He, for gathering them when He wills , is competent.”
[The Holy Quran 42:29]

“And to Allah prostrates
whatever creature is in the heavens and whatever is on the Earth , and also the angels , and they are not arrogant.” [The Holy Quran 16:49]

No,existence of extra terrestrial life won't shake my beliefs-it only shows the might of God.

Now let's turn the question around:
How will the realization of the non-existence of extra terrestrial life affect your beliefs as an atheists-won't this strongly imply the existence of God?
Thou this is an hypothetical question because we can't know surely if extra terrestrial life do not exist,but we are strongly pointed towards this direction....The Fermi paradox.

Dansnow:

Your Quran only mentioned heaven and earth, it didn't mention Mars. So you see.

Riofidelio:
This is very funny,expecting a book that talks about visible living creatures and invisible living beings to touch planets far away from those writing the books Well 1+1=2 i hope an atheist will agree with that because it has been proven,whereas my grandfather in my village lived and died without having anything to do with books but he knows very well that "ookan"(one) pelu(plus) "ookan" "loparapodi"(is equal to) "eeji"(two). Of course he knew this very well because it's of use to life. Please of what significance or benefit is planet Mars to you and i In fact i'm now fully convinced that atheists are the most stupid creatures on this planet because a fish knows that it doesn't have any business out of water While a human that supposed to be an intelligent creature is disturbing his brains about a far away planet that has nothing as in NOTHING to add or subtract from his very existence

Dansnow:

You religious people are fond of attacking and insulting people who don't share your beliefs. Now you just called atheists "stupid creatures". Meanwhile, they reason with logic and they have improved the world better than the religious ones. Learn to respect everyone's faith.

RuthlessLeader:

How do you know the supreme being isn't Brahma or Ra, or could there even be a council of supreme beings like the greek gods. Afterall they are older than the bible and christianity and the civilizations that worshipped them were more advanced than the israelites.