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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Areaboyfriend(m): 10:55pm On Jul 15, 2018
EmpresFidel, no body said you can't marry him. But you should ask yourselves if you are ready to bear the consequences it may bring.
There are lots of options available for couples who are AS AS
1) Checking the genotype of the fetus, if SS, then abortion can be done. This depends on your environment and your spirituality.
2) Get married and bear no children. You may adopt if you want.
3) Take the risk of having the child, you may be lucky the first isn't SS, then live with just a child.
4) Ref to number 3,if the child is SS, you should be financially, morally and mentally ready to cater for an SS child.
5) Walk away (don't get married with the genotype match
) and save a child from regrets and frustration.

I see your are 23 years old and may really not understand until it falls on you. But please, don't let things fall on you.
PEACE!
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Aleora(f): 11:06pm On Jul 15, 2018
Why suffer the innocent child that Will come through you,have you seen someone with Ss genotype before?try go to the hospital and see some,you will change your mind..my friend lost his brother yesterday,he is Ss and 21 years of age..so think well..
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Laryne(m): 11:18pm On Jul 15, 2018
EmpresFIDEL:
it is very difficult.. I have been addicted to him for 5years. so the only thing that want to separate us on this earth is genotype. it's very painfull

Fly wey no want hear advice...

What is 5 years compared to all the wit weakening pains you'll have to go through for the rest of your life?
Emotion can get in the way but let reasons guide you in relationships.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:24pm On Jul 15, 2018
It seems irresponsible to me to risk the health of your children when you can prevent it. Find another man.
My only advise would be to disregard any spiritual/religious angle that some posters here are unsurprisingly pushing. Typical Nigerians. To turn prayer warrior is the solution to all problems by their reckoning.

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by GistFullGround: 11:31pm On Jul 15, 2018
Both of you are very wicked, knowing fully well that you may bring a child is SS into this world.



Have you considered the pain the child would go through?




Just because of penis & vagina, you guys have thrown caution to the wind.




True, there is a treatment for an SS patient, but do you guys have the money to foot the bill?



STUPID IDIOTS!

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Aremolekunowo(m): 11:33pm On Jul 15, 2018
My life example. I was AS when I met my fiancé ,3 years ago but she was desperate for marriage at that time she lied she was AA genotype.
fast forward to the wedding time we have to do our gene text behold her own came out as AS I became angry and wanted to back out but everyone begs me to continue and have faith in God because the wedding time was so close, and I agreed because I love her but when she gave birth last year may behold the boy was SS. we ve bn to hospitals many times spending and borrowing loans for treatment and drugs, even the love is dead now we are just managing each other to determined how to break the marriage now because
1. I can't take the risk of having another SS
2.There is no love and trust again
3.The financial demands is heavy
4. emotional pains of seeing your kids passing through pains
5. wahala of taken them to hospitals all time to make ur doctors smile to the bank all time
Please I advice no one to take the risk of having sickle cell children. learn from those who have through the road God bless you

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by nikkycool(f): 11:33pm On Jul 15, 2018
Obi1kenobi:
It seems irresponsible to me to risk the health of your children when you can prevent it. Find another man.
My only advise would be to disregard any spiritual/religious angle that some posters here are unsurprisingly pushing. Typical Nigerians. To turn prayer warrior is the solution to all problems by their reckoning.
Since you guys are aware from the beginning it's better you go your separate ways cos God is still on the throne to give you your rightful partners.We didn't know until we had our first child,that was when it dawned on us that hubby's result was not correct.To the Glory of God anyway his mercy has been with the boy since but if I had known I wouldn't have continue with the relationship cos it was tough in the beginning.To God be the Glory now anyway.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by xtenxive(m): 11:50pm On Jul 15, 2018
I am yet to see any Parent of a sickler who is proud of their marital decision & I know some that eventually separated after loosing their child.
You can never imagine the pain/stress that comes with raising a sickler. All this love you're shouting now will be completely forgotten and if you do not believe this, you can definitely find any Parent of a sickler around you for counseling. I'm almost sure they'll tell you to walk away from this relationship, though I will still advise you try to seek their counsel.

Love is never enough in marriage, saying goodbye does not mean you cannot be happy in life again. Making this kind of critical decisions strengthen you as an individual & increases the quality of your mind to the things of life...........................................move on!!!
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by dochenaj: 12:12am On Jul 16, 2018
EmpresFIDEL:
please friends i really need your advice. I have been dating him for 5yrs now, we love each other so much . but our genotype is giving us serious issue, we are both As and we don't consider brake up as an option. the pressure on my boyfriend from family and friends is making him want to dissolve the relationship when he still love me deep down and I love him too.. we are just too confuse. I don't want to lose him.
If you are not considering breakup, you should consider some form of medical sterilization. He could get a vasectomy and you a tubal ligation, and then I'll give both of you my undiluted blessings to go on with the marriage.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 12:34am On Jul 16, 2018
Nnamdiojukwu:
So you are still here,you this joy killer are you married?
Five years ago I received same advice from people like you,today my first daughter is two years with AA genotype, Christabel is seven months kicking well....what is wrong with you people,you put your trust in doctors more than God yet on Sunday you dress like say na u holy pass without put God first.
Which church do you even attend cos I am suspecting to be all this hail Mary that don't believed in God but Mary,I am very angry with you for given her that kind of advice.

Faith work wonders even today.
Iam a living testimony, I and my wife are As.
100-25=75.
I do not want to call you names, but honestly you deserve to be flogged! angry Is 'Faith' a capsule, a pill or even a syrup that can be swallowed with 1 glass of water, so that it generates automatic results? Are you aware that people have different levels of faith, and not everybody has been given the same grace to walk in the same type of shoes as you do?

This is how you silly people confuse fellow Christians and others in Christendom with your so-called theories, that do NOT hold water. sad Please for goodness sake, stop giving people fake advice. I know a pastor who did exactly the same thing you did, by marrying his AS wife even though he was AS, too. The first child was AA, but the 2nd and 3rd turned out to be SS. Did his faith disappear when his wife got pregnant the 2nd time? angry

DeRay98:
"Madam faith", pe le o. You have only 2 kids yet and non is SS doesn't mean you won't have an SS child if you have up to 4 kids later. All destinies are not same, not all men have same faith level.
churches now demand genotype testing from intending couples before approving their marriage in their churches, So don't tempt God with the danger you see coming ans refused to avoiding it.
Thank you for telling that joker the truth, o jare. sad Faith is NOT foolishness. They will not hear.

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 12:45am On Jul 16, 2018
ologun01:
You don't need to break up..

Read more on

1. PGD ( Prenatal pregnancy test)CVS

The foetus is tested about 10 weeks and if it's SS( you can decide to keep it or do as you wish) it's don at the sickle cell centre at idi-araba @ 280k as at Febuary this year, you can go there to find out more.

2. IVF + PGD

This is more expensive as it's an IVF procedure plus test done on the fertlized egg before implantation and might cost upward 2m depending on the centre you decide to do it.

Basically..you eggs are retrieved during ovulation and the husbands sperm is used to fertilize the eggs , afterwards the eggs are tested ( bare in mind during IVF , more than 10 eggs can be retrieved). After ferlization and eggs tested..you can discard the SS ones and request the AS or AA ones to be implanted back into you ( you can decide to have twins this way) and or freeze the remaining eggs( if you are lucky to have many that are AS or AA) so next time..you only come for implantation

Mind you this procedure cost alot( budget 2m and above for this)

And if you do none of the above and have a SS child

Then you next option is bone marrow transfer ( this is still but a procedure already done at uniben and sickle cell centre @ idi araba planning to start soon)

Above are your options medically.

If you both love each other as you proclaimed..those above are the available options now and will involve sacrifice.

All the the best and Good luck

Bone marrow is not 100% successful. I had a cousin who did it in South Africa, and still died after a year due to sickle cell complications.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 12:49am On Jul 16, 2018
jhadu:
03:53 25th September 2017 | Sickle Cell Prevention

SCD PGD Sickle Cell Disease Sickle Cell Anemia Genetic Conditions Embryos Sickle Cell Prevention

The last thing loving parents want for their children is suffering. Grazed knees and broken hearts are essentially inevitable, but almost all parents will do everything they can to protect their children from anything even remotely threatening.

UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE SOME THREATS LURKING AROUND, EVEN BEFORE BIRTH.

Sickle cell disease (SCD), also known as sickle cell anemia, is a condition inherited from one’s parents and therefore not contagious. Unfortunately, this genetic condition has serious effects including vision problems, delayed growth, frequent infections, painful swelling of the hands and feet and fatigue caused by the anemia (shortage of healthy red blood cells).

The worst and main symptom, however, is severe pain (sickle cell crisis). Repeat episodes, of varying intensity, can last for hours or even weeks.

In time, it leads to organ damage which may or may not include the skin, bones, joints, brain, eyes, lungs, heart, spleen, liver, kidneys and penis.

FORTUNATELY, THANKS TO PGD, BABIES DON’T HAVE TO BE BORN WITH SCD.

Preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) is a procedure during which fertility specialists can test embryos for genetic conditions, before assisted implantation and conception. By doing this, babies don’t have to inherit certain conditions from their parents and suffer the consequences.

PGD is done through the biopsy of day 5 embryos generated through the In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) process. IVF is not necessarily needed to help couples who request PGD as some of them do not have infertility challenges, but to test for genetic conditions, an IVF needs to be done. Once the fertilized eggs become embryos, cells are biopsied to test for specific genetic conditions like Sickle cell. Healthy embryos can then be selected for implantation.

Preimplantation genetic screening (PGS) can also be performed on embryos during IVF treatment to screen for numerical chromosomal abnormalities. Bridge Clinic’s fertility specialists can test for 13 genetic disorders and chromosomal abnormalities.

https://www.thebridgeclinic.com/blog/how-to-prevent-your-baby-from-inheriting-sickle-cell-disease
What is the cost of this entire PGD+IVF procedure? Why didn't you include it in your write-up?
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 12:55am On Jul 16, 2018
mabelly:
Well according to biology and science SS don't come in successions. That's is if you get SS now the next baby won't be an SS. So yes flush one fetus and birth the next one.
According to which biology? shocked Have you ever heard of the 'law of independent assortment' in genetics? People can get pregnant 2 or 3 times in a row, and all the pregnancies can be SS foetuses. It is like rolling a dice. No one can predict exactly how the dice will roll. sad They say there is a 25% chance of having an SS offspring, but nobody can predict how often that 25% chance will come into play. Probability is frigging different from certainty. I have seen families with children. 2 successive pregnancies produced 2 SS children! shocked How does one explain it?
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Throwback: 1:19am On Jul 16, 2018
Nnamdiojukwu:
So you are still here,you this joy killer are you married?
Five years ago I received same advice from people like you,today my first daughter is two years with AA genotype, Christabel is seven months kicking well....what is wrong with you people,you put your trust in doctors more than God yet on Sunday you dress like say na u holy pass without put God first.
Which church do you even attend cos I am suspecting to be all this hail Mary that don't believed in God but Mary,I am very angry with you for given her that kind of advice.



Faith work wonders even today.
Iam a living testimony, I and my wife are As.
100-25=75.



You and your wife are obviously very selfish and self-centered, caring about your own lust over the wellbeing of your offspring.

I am also certain that as you tried one and avoided the SS genotype, you tried a 2nd and avoided it too, you would be foolish enough to try it a 3rd time and your current gloating would turn to tales of woe.

Is it that there was no reasoning elder in both families to have deterred you and your wife from embarking on the pathway of fools?

You have been lucky so far yet you are gloating?

If I find myself in political power, foolishness and unavoidable wickedness such as you and your wife displayed, should be a criminal offence.

You just made me remember the many sicklers I encountered while growing up, and how such terrible yet avoidable sickness really stunted their growth while we left them behind even in school.

You this sorrow craving religious fanatic.

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by AugustusA1(m): 1:26am On Jul 16, 2018
This fellow is locked down and know not what else to do. I suppose this is the reason he/she brought forward this issue to this forum for suggestion. It's not nice to attack individual opinion because it doesn't conform to what you perceive is appropriate.
I didn't mention abortion anywhere near my response. We can only suggest and let this fellow decide what's best them both. Like I said, my both parent are AS and 5kids no SS... but my bottom suggestion is pls don't born SS because the child faces too much pain as they grow in life.
mabelly:


People abort for health complications so is this one. SS is a health issue and complication.

If my memory serves me right, biology states that SS genotype doesn't come in successions. That is If the first is SS the next can't be SS.

Don't know if I am 100% correct with this but science has made life a whole lot easier.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by AugustusA1(m): 1:33am On Jul 16, 2018
I Didn't mention abortion as an option. I think it's improper for any one to attack any particular post simply because the other opinion don't conform to what your beliefs are...
EmpreFidel, all I plead for is, do whatever you have in your power to not have SS child because of the severe pain SS kids undergo. Remember I stated my both parent are SS and never had SS child. The research for sickle cell disease is not very common cos this is black man's disease. But I'm aware there are technology which correct genetic makeup but again check your pocket strength....

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by mabelly: 4:58am On Jul 16, 2018
LaudableXX:

According to which biology? shocked Have you ever heard of the 'law of independent assortment' in genetics? People can get pregnant 2 or 3 times in a row, and all the pregnancies can be SS foetuses. It is like rolling a dice. No one can predict exactly how the dice will roll. sad They say there is a 25% chance of having an SS offspring, but nobody can predict how often that 25% chance will come into play. Probability is frigging different from certainty. I have seen families with children. 2 successive pregnancies produced 2 SS children! shocked How does one explain it?


This is quite insightful, added to the knowledge I already had.
Still, I will stick to the theory of checking for an SS foetus before birthing the child. Its just another option away from the regular break up song people sing for AS partner.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by DMCY: 6:08am On Jul 16, 2018
My dad always tell me one things as regards this
Its better for both of you to sit down and face each other, then cry and brake up jejely than to go ahead with the relationship and rue the day you ever met when the problem starts happening

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by nahzyla: 6:31am On Jul 16, 2018
EmpresFIDEL
You better don't think of having children with that boy if you know what's good for you.

And don't even think of abortion of SS foetus because there terrible consequences attached to having abortions and I am not even talking of the spiritual angle.
I don't know why people are suggesting abortions as of it is a small thing, as if it doesn't have consequences.
Have you heard of Ashermans syndrome? That is a complication that comes from having a foetus evacuated or aborted from the womb, it causes the internal part of the womb to gum together and seal off the womb thereby rendering the woman infertile. 30% of women who do evacuation abortion end up with Ashermans syndrome. And the more abortions a woman performs, the higher her risk of having Ashermans syndrome.
I work in the health field and I know these things. Some girls bleed to death when they try other means of abortion like using the pill instead of evacuation type,no matter the method you choose there is always big risk attached.


If you want to marry and adopt good but don't be so heartless to start bringing kids to this world to suffer cos of your love that will die off after years of marriage.
Until you have kids you will not understand the pain of seeing your child suffer, the pain of holding their weak tired body in your hands and then when the baby looks up to your face with pure love and trust and with no understanding of why they are going through everyday pains your guilty conscience will not even let your mind rest. The money you will spend on running helter skelter to hospitals could have been used to give the child a better life overall, better quality education, better clothes, live in a better house etc.

EmpresFIDEL think twice and leave the guy, sorry for your loss I understand it's not easy but take solace on the fact that love fades after years of marriage and boredom. You still care for each other but that hot fiery love is no longer there, go and look at old married couples of up to 10years to understand what am saying. So after the love dies you are left with nothing but the consequences of your bad decisions and regret for your actions.

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nnamdiojukwu: 6:52am On Jul 16, 2018
Throwback:




You and your wife are obviously very selfish and self-centered, caring about your own lust over the wellbeing of your offspring.

I am also certain that as you tried one and avoided the SS genotype, you tried a 2nd and avoided it too, you would be foolish enough to try it a 3rd time and your current gloating would turn to tales of woe.

Is it that there was no reasoning elder in both families to have deterred you and your wife from embarking on the pathway of fools?

You have been lucky so far yet you are gloating?

If I find myself in political power, foolishness and unavoidable wickedness such as you and your wife displayed, should be a criminal offence.

You just made me remember the many sicklers I encountered while growing up, and how such terrible yet avoidable sickness really stunted their growth while we left them behind even in school.

You this sorrow craving religious fanatic.
If you are wisdom bankrupt, intelligence zero,planning absent and faith empty,spiritual zero,that is not my business.

We planned to have two kids and that is achieved, if i want the third one,I will still play to God and he will do it again.


I am a winner,God did it to us thru winners,we are making good use of his servant sent to liberate the world yet some of you thomas can not dao same but criticise.




You preach love to a girl,fuucck her as you can,when is time to show how much you love and care,you take to your heels. You are a coward.

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nnamdiojukwu: 6:54am On Jul 16, 2018
Bigval5:

Sorry how old are you please?
I am a father of two,a winner family. You can now do the maths.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nnamdiojukwu: 6:55am On Jul 16, 2018
Andy2274:
. Oga keep quiet and face reality. Leave God and hail Mary out of this. It is an advice so don't bring your stupid talk here. Are you better than people that call hail Mary? Is your family richer than those that call hail Mary? Are you holier than them? How many people that are calling hail Mary that you are feeding or are paying salary? You call yourself a christian and criticizing others. She is giving her advice based on medical aspect. Suspecting to be hail Mary that doesn't believe me God...it's only you that believe in God abi? Face the topic and leave religion out of this. If you don't have any advice for the person better keep quiet and if you have you give the person that need it without bringing religion here......
Yea,I am better than those who called hail Mary cos they do not know what they are doing.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nnamdiojukwu: 6:58am On Jul 16, 2018
mysteryman2014:


The options are AA,AS,AS,SS. The probability is 1/4. So you were lucky that your child escaped, what if she is not that lucky. Do not put your God to test. You have been Warned. Take informed decision.
My friend keep quiet,there is nothing like lucky here,ask anything from God with faith and he give unto you,Mathew 7:7.
Faith is a universal currency.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nnamdiojukwu: 7:00am On Jul 16, 2018
4601CE:
Will you take the responsibility if she goes ahead with the relationship and gives birth to a stickler .
If your answer is no . Then shut the fukk up
If she believe in God,all thing will be possible for her,but people like you are joy klllers.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nnamdiojukwu: 7:01am On Jul 16, 2018
Cassie74:


You can't call God in one sentence that He is good and say not so very nice things in another sentence. You can actually pass your message without insults and slandering. Cheers
I cannot see where I insult anybody,sir.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Dex4(m): 7:04am On Jul 16, 2018
EmpresFIDEL:
it is very difficult.. I have been addicted to him for 5years. so the only thing that want to separate us on this earth is genotype. it's very painfull

Your boyfriend is already toying with the idea of leaving the relationship(if I read right), savvy?

Love is very sweet, but this is an unavoidable stress that can be avoided by taking the right decisions now. Pls, it's not fun when you see SS kids in pain.

Best decisions are painful sometimes, that's Ma little advice, dear.
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by eddyboii(m): 7:07am On Jul 16, 2018
mamawin:
LOL!! LOL!! Like my husband would say, there're many things God can do, but there are a lot he won't do. Change genotype you say? LOL!!
guess you've not heard of the wonders of God!!! He his the miracle worker!!!
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by mysteryman2014: 7:09am On Jul 16, 2018
Nnamdiojukwu:
My friend keep quiet,there is nothing like lucky here,ask anything from God with faith and he give unto you,Mathew 7:7.
Faith is a universal currency.
smiley

My people perish without knowledge
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by eddyboii(m): 7:13am On Jul 16, 2018
Reference:


God does not attend to deliberate mistakes made in rebellion. And rebellion is defined as having all the information and yet making a bad decision. For this the bible has said on every matter, 'get wisdom'. It is simply not wise to continue with such a marraige and if you do you will suffer inspite.... or despite God. This kind of attitude is what causes the world to ask, 'where is your God', when all manner of storms come. Most troubles today in the kingdom and with His children are just self inflicted: the failure of wisdom or the abundance of ignorance or the intransigence of rebellion.
all am saying is that before they push for marriage ...they should seek the face of God ...for him only can change their status...I call it miracle !!!
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by OMOTOWO(m): 7:26am On Jul 16, 2018
Dear pls break up with him.Find an AA guy.I am AS married to AA.FLEEEEEE
Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nobody: 7:35am On Jul 16, 2018
Nnamdiojukwu:
If she believe in God,all thing will be possible for her,but people like you are joy klllers.
Fukk off

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