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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 8:14pm On Jul 16, 2018

mabelly:
People abort for health complications so is this one. SS is a health issue and complication.

If my memory serves me right, biology states that SS genotype doesn't come in successions. That is If the first is SS the next can't be SS.

Don't know if I am 100% correct with this but science has made life a whole lot easier.

You are totally incorrect, sir!! shocked

Stop trying to give them false hope, that is built on a flawed premise. Abortion should never be carried out, for things that can be prevented by applying simple wisdom.

mabelly:
People abort for health related issues. SS is health related. And again, according to the little biology I did back then in school, if SS should come the next is most likely not going to be SS. No way you would have 3 successions of SS.

Stop telling lies. angry

I know people who studied genetics up to PG level in uni. You can easily have 2,3 or even 4 successions of SS, if the principle of independent assortment comes into play. It is like rolling a dice. It is difficult to predict which side would turn up, based on number of throws. It is a gamble.

ROSYL:
Bullshit! Please let’s hear about the little biology you did in school which says if you have SS, the next is most likely not going to be SS

Again, how could you forget the financial and psychological trauma that come with having SS kids or aborting them as you suggested?

You dey mind that clown?

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. He/she has imbibed some half-baked info, and is tossing it out as if it is the gospel truth. He/she is merely attempting to mislead people. undecided

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Meetleader: 8:25pm On Jul 16, 2018

charliboy654:

Have heard of checking the genotype of a fetus before its born, if it's ss, you about it, otherwise u leave the baby, cost between 350 to 400k, and this procedure could be done more than once b4 getting the desired genotype.

Abortion is murder

Abortion is not an option

For the sake of yourself and unborn generation, avoid any form of blood guilt

Turn to GOD for guidiance...

Learn to hear from GOD

Find out what his word says about your situation

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 8:28pm On Jul 16, 2018

Reference:
God does not attend to deliberate mistakes made in rebellion. And rebellion is defined as having all the information and yet making a bad decision. For this the bible has said on every matter, 'get wisdom'. It is simply not wise to continue with such a marriage and if you do you will suffer inspite.... or despite God. This kind of attitude is what causes the world to ask, 'where is your God', when all manner of storms come. Most troubles today in the kingdom and with His children are just self inflicted: the failure of wisdom or the abundance of ignorance or the intransigence of rebellion.

I am so happy to see enlightened Christians still exist. cheesy

The gullible half-baked ones will run around screaming "faith conquers all things," as if faith is a commodity sold in the open market, that you can dash in to buy for 300 naira per piece. They forget that faith is hard work. It takes time to build, and it requires a heavy dose of grace to sustain it. undecided

Sometimes, even when you think you have enough faith, the answers to your prayers may still not come, because the sovereignty of God Almighty, is still a factor that cannot be toyed with.

Jazmiynne:
These people coming here to give testimonials on how God changed their genotypes from SS to something else or talking about how they married AS to AS without birthing an SS child, may God not allow you to be used in destroying another person's life.

My parents are both AS and not because they chose to love blindly but because my Dad had been given a wrong result when they went for premarital testing. In fact they didn't know until about 2 years ago, and I and my sibling are AA and AS respectively. But you will NEVER hear me advocating for two aware individuals to blindly enter such a union.

Just because my case or your case turned out an exception to the rule, or became a miracle as it were doesn't make it a norm. It doesn't give you the validation to open your two eyes and test God. Even Jesus Christ flatly refused to test the power of God. Yes God is All-Powerful and can do whatever necessary to fulfill his will but even the Bible knew that when it says "You must not put Jehovah your God to the test".

Yes you may think you have the money for exploring these options... But do you know the emotional drain that comes with spending that money? The frustration that comes with trying and trying? And what if the money goes? We live in an uncertain world. Even healthy couples and kids have complications. Don't subject yourself to a premeditated complication. There's a certain relief that comes from throwing our burden to God on problems we didn't see coming... When you already saw the problem coming you'd be dealing with the burden of the problem, the guilt that you could have avoided it and then the confusion towards God on top something that is not his fault. DO NOT TEST GOD. Even Jesus refused to do so.

In regular marriages, love fades and couples have to struggle to keep the flame. Imagine if you're adding a sick child to that naturally dwindling?

Tbh I think you should just start crying for the breakup already so you can begin your journey towards healing fast.

Oh my brother, may you live long! shocked

In fact, you have said every single thing I wanted to say. Thank you and God bless you on all sides! cool

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by LaudableXX: 8:52pm On Jul 16, 2018

Nnamdiojukwu:
If you are wisdom bankrupt, intelligence zero,planning absent and faith empty,spiritual zero,that is not my business.

We planned to have two kids and that is achieved, if i want the third one,I will still play to God and he will do it again.

I am a winner,God did it to us thru winners,we are making good use of his servant sent to liberate the world yet some of you thomas can not dao same but criticise.

You preach love to a girl,fuucck her as you can,when is time to show how much you love and care,you take to your heels. You are a coward.

The fact that you mentioned that you are a Winner, is what is making me respond to you. undecided

Guy, hold it right there, and stop your 'tales by moonlight.' There are countless Winners that have died of sickle cell anaemia, and other diseases. Whenever it happens, they sweep it under the carpet, and life goes on. One of them is even the wife of a Winners pastor in Abuja, who died last year. I also know a WSF cell member whose house was used for fellowship, yet his son still died of sickle cell anaemia, despite the fact that they were attending Faith Tabernacle religiously. Don't let me expose other things here. Please just stop giving people false hopes. Everybody's faith level is very different! shocked

mfm04622:
Tell me the theory they are supposed to follow!

Your theory says each birth has a 25% chance of being SS? So what you don't know is you can have 5 children and ALL will be SS! Each incident is independent. It means what happened in each birth do not accept what happens in future birth

Thank you for educating the clueless ones, my brother. sad

Each of the homozygous SS alleles associate together, in a manner that is totally independent of their previous association, in each successive birth. Many people do not like hearing this bit. It is a random association, that cannot be predicted with accuracy. undecided

Yes, theoretically there is a 25% chance of having a HbSS birth, but how often that 25% chance comes into play each time conception occurs, cannot be predicted with certainty. That 25% chance can happen each time the woman gets pregnant - which is what most people do not realise!

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Twagrill(m): 9:20pm On Jul 16, 2018

cappinjerry:
you will quote God. tell me if they v not been having sex

how am i supposed to know abeg?

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by swiperthefox: 2:22am On Jul 17, 2018

LaudableXX:

IVF costs about 2-5 million per cycle. Are you going to be the one to foot the bill for them? Just asking, o!

She asked for alternative solution to not breaking up with the guy she is with. That's what I offered. It is up to her to know how deep her pocket is or what she wants to do.

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Momcherry(f): 11:45am On Jul 17, 2018

Nnamdiojukwu:
Mother Mary!!!!!!!
Take care daughter of Mary.
My people perished because of lack of knowledge.

Yes, Mother Mary.
The mother of all mothers
The mother that gave birth to the Saviour of this world.
I will keep honoring her because The Almighty God first honored her by choosing her among millions of other maidens.
'And so from now henceforth all generations shall call her Blessed'

And Yes, I'm daughter of Mary.
Thank you

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Jazmiynne: 2:26pm On Jul 17, 2018

LaudableXX:

Oh my brother, may you live long! In fact, you have said every single thing I wanted to say. Thank you and God bless you on all sides!

Sister

Thanks and Amen

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Eaugusta(f): 4:02pm On Jul 17, 2018

Nnamdiojukwu:
There is no where in the bible where you are told to hail Mary OK.

Una believed system is too low abeg.

Lol, May the Holy Spirit open up your mind to learn and teach you all you need to know as a Christian

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nnamdiojukwu: 5:00pm On Jul 17, 2018

Momcherry:

Yes, Mother Mary.
The mother of all mothers
The mother that gave birth to the Saviour of this world.
I will keep honoring her because The Almighty God first honored her by choosing her among millions of other maidens.
'And so from now henceforth all generations shall call her Blessed'

And Yes, I'm daughter of Mary.
Thank you

And who said that to Mary,angel,God or prophet?

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by jhoci: 9:19pm On Jul 17, 2018

FORTUNATELY, THANKS TO PGD, BABIES DON’T HAVE TO BE BORN WITH SCD.

Preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) is a procedure during which fertility specialists can test embryos for genetic conditions, before assisted implantation and conception. By doing this, babies don’t have to inherit certain conditions from their parents and suffer the consequences.

PGD is done through the biopsy of day 5 embryos generated through the In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) process. IVF is not necessarily needed to help couples who request PGD as some of them do not have infertility challenges, but to test for genetic conditions, an IVF needs to be done. Once the fertilized eggs become embryos, cells are biopsied to test for specific genetic conditions like Sickle cell. Healthy embryos can then be selected for implantation.

https://www.thebridgeclinic.com/blog/how-to-prevent-your-baby-from-inheriting-sickle-cell-disease

EmpresFIDEL:
please friends i really need your advice. I have been dating him for 5yrs now, we love each other so much . but our genotype is giving us serious issue, we are both As and we don't consider brake up as an option. the pressure on my boyfriend from family and friends is making him want to dissolve the relationship when he still love me deep down and I love him too.. we are just too confuse. I don't want to lose him.

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by mamawin(f): 10:45pm On Jul 17, 2018

eddyboii:
guess you've not heard of the wonders of God!!! He his the miracle worker!!!

I've heard of miracles, and seen, but not the church type. And definitely not a genotype-changing type. Your genes are what made you.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by mamawin(f): 10:56pm On Jul 17, 2018

LaudableXX:

The fact that you mentioned that you are a Winner, is what is making me respond to you. Guy, hold it right there, and stop your 'tales by moonlight.' There are countless Winners that have died of sickle cell anaemia, and other diseases. Whenever it happens, they sweep it under the carpet, and life goes on. One of them is even the wife of a Winners pastor in Abuja, who died last year. I also know a WSF cell member whose house was used for fellowship, yet his son still died of sickle cell anaemia, despite the fact that they were attending Faith Tabernacle religiously. Don't let me expose other things here. Please just stop giving people false hopes. Everybody's faith level is very different!

Thank you for educating the clueless ones, my brother. Each of the homozygous SS alleles associate together, in a manner that is totally independent of their previous association, in each successive birth. Many people do not like hearing this bit. It is a random association, that cannot be predicted with accuracy. Yes, theoretically there is a 25% chance of having a HbSS birth, but how often that 25% chance comes into play each time conception occurs, cannot be predicted with certainty. That 25% chance can happen each time the woman gets pregnant - which is what most people do not realise!

You're very right. I was somewhere when somebody was being advised to stop having kids after the first three, because the fourth one will be an SS! Many people believe this and I wonder why.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by capitalzero: 5:21am On Jul 18, 2018

EmpresFIDEL:
please friends i really need your advice. I have been dating him for 5yrs now, we love each other so much . but our genotype is giving us serious issue, we are both As and we don't consider brake up as an option. the pressure on my boyfriend from family and friends is making him want to dissolve the relationship when he still love me deep down and I love him too.. we are just too confuse. I don't want to lose him.

what is love? if one of you is blind, will u be saying this? True love is not selfish.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nobody: 2:44pm On Jul 18, 2018

Meetleader:

Abortion is murder

Abortion is not an option

For the sake of yourself and unborn generation, avoid any form of blood guilt

Turn to GOD for guidiance...

Learn to hear from GOD

Find out what his word says about your situation

You should free urself from the white man god, its slavery, ur are in bondage.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nobody: 2:44pm On Jul 18, 2018

Meetleader:

Abortion is murder

Abortion is not an option

For the sake of yourself and unborn generation, avoid any form of blood guilt

Turn to GOD for guidiance...

Learn to hear from GOD

Find out what his word says about your situation

You should free urself from the white man god, its slavery, u are in bondage.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by raindrop99: 5:11pm On Jul 18, 2018

Tadeus:

Typical African man way. Though our God is ever faithful buh same God gv us brain not to decorate our head but to make use of it

I understand, but what u believe is what will work 4 u. It worked 4 my sist and her hubby because dey believed it. it might not work 4 the OP though.
I believe miracles do happen, I don't knw abt u.

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Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nobody: 11:51pm On Jul 18, 2018

thanks to you all.. i have made my decision. if God is really in support he will change our genotype otherwise we call it quit.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Cuppyodo(m): 4:27pm On Jul 21, 2018

Yea

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by osborn4u: 8:48pm On Jul 21, 2018

soliq55:

Without mincing words, I am telling you this happened live. There is lab evidence to that effect. I know you might not believe in miracles but it doesn't change the fact that verifiable miracles happen. Stay blessed

While this it's great your wife turned out to be AA, I'm afraid it is impossible for one's genotype to change. Any church, pastor or prophet claiming that is a liar. Your genotype is coupled with your hemoglobin. Your hemoglobin is a component of your Red Blood Cell. For any non medically oriented folks reading this, YOUR GENOTYPE CANNOT BE CHANGED.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by MrHighSea: 7:41am On Jul 22, 2018

Nnamdiojukwu:
My God is bigger than sickle cells,and just fr you to know bothbof my kids are AA.

Shame to the devil.

You use the small brain God gave you to tempt him.

And you're bragging.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by MrHighSea: 8:45am On Jul 22, 2018

Op, Op, Op
IF ANY OF YOUR CHILD THAT SURVIVES BEING SS SEES HIS/HER SIBLING PERSISTENTLY SUFFERING AN AVOIDABLE AILMENT, THEY WILL HATE YOU.

You have faith in anybody/thing/God, that's fine.
BY UR GENEROSITY, USE FAITH MAKE NIGERIA A 1ST WORLD COUNTRY B4 CHILDREN COME, ABI U WAN MAKE THEM LIVE FOR SHHITHOLE?
BTW, NOTHING SOME GOD CAN'T DO.

But you have an awareness what you're plunging yourself into. USE THIS KNOWLEDGE WISELY.

Wait till ur bliv changes ur genotype or his.

The ultimate solution is QUIT.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nnamdiojukwu: 10:34am On Jul 22, 2018

MrHighSea:
You use the small brain God gave you to tempt him.
And you're bragging.

Malachi 3:7-10. Happy Sunday.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jul 22, 2018

Akemmi:
I understand your feelings and share in your pains. However, I want to share a testimony with you. If you have a little faith, you will as well share this someday. Pastor and Pastor(Mrs) Jerry Nnaji, pastors in Dominion City had this same issue but God changed it for them. The wife prayed and God changed her genotype from AS to AA. Both of them are alive to corroborate this testimony in case you are in doubt. One of my advice to you is that you can take your matter to God. But most importantly, understand His will for both of you. I wish you the very best

how do I understand his will

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by med123(m): 10:31pm On Jan 18, 2019

Run your CVS / FETAL GENOTYPE @ Greene Diagnostics, Benin City. Call any of our Consultants for help; 08025200314.

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by otiadeoye(f): 1:44pm On Mar 25, 2019

Well if both of u has tried to seek help before feeding ur families with d news it could have been easier.....im also not an advocate of marriage of convinience because of d kids experience worse pains and suffer more than SS kids during marital crises many of which conversant wth because I'm a lawyer.....the only advise I can give u sincebu both won't consider a break up is to go ahead and get married on a very low key so as to save enough money for genetic testing. ...the process involved screening of d sperm before it's planted in ur womb.. .its going to help u avoid having sickle babies, couples do this alot to avoid albinism, or other family traits in their unborn babies.. ...i do refer pple for this alot Frm my law firm.. ..Divorce is truly devilish and painful... Esp harder on d kids.. ..i say no to marriage of convenience.. ..either for money, family reasons, stature, etc.. ..follow God's will only in true love. ...all d best dear

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by akube34: 8:01am On Dec 02, 2022

please friends i really need your advice. I have been dating him for 5yrs now, we love each other so much . but our genotype is giving us serious issue, we are both As and we don't consider brake up as an option. the pressure on my boyfriend from family and friends is making him want to dissolve the relationship when he still love me deep down and I love him too.. we are just too confuse. I don't want to lose him.

did u later break up

Re: "We Are Both AS Genotype And We Don't Consider Break-Up As An Option" by simultaneousboi(m): 7:25am On Apr 03, 2023

Amarabae:
my dear, listen to me.
If you marry him, both of you are AS,
That means that every child you bear has a 25% chance of being an SS.
It is a medical fact.
So are you guys ready for the gamble ?
What if you give birth to an SS?
Can you handle the economical, physical ,mental and emotional stress that comes with managing an SS child?
The best advice I will give you is to let the guy go!
Remember his family is now against the relationship, if both of you prove stubborn and get married and have an SS child, you will not get the support of the family.
The blame brigade will come out for you.
Let the guy go.
It's painful to say goodbye, I understand
Just let him go!
Unless you both will marry and adopt children without having any biological child,
I doubt it.
Let him go.
I repeat let him go

This is the best advice I have seen here so far, I was once in your shoes (though I'm not married yet) but I let go of the relationship and now I'm dating a lady that has AA Genotype. In another news, you guys should visit more standard hospital, because sometimes mechanical errors and human errors use to affect the result. This my own was caused by errors from the Lab, we never knew that the lady is AA while I'm AS, but they told us then that both of us are AS. The lady is married with two kids now, it was during her antenatal that they checked and said that her genotype is AA, but by then it was already too late. I know it's not easy at all but that is the best option, I must tell you.

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