I am from the Niger delta and one of the main injustices I have cried against over the years is the tactical stranglehold on the economy of the Oil industry by the Lagos axis.

I agree that lagos is the commericial capital of the country but I see no reasons for instance why Napims, Mobil, Chevron, Schlumberger should operate from Lagos, I can support them maintaining liason offices in Lagos, but to fully operate out of Lagos is just shamefull,

In case you are going to site militancy and Kidnap as the reason, This has been going on since time memorial, only recently SPDC moved its head quarters to PH after so much pressure,

What we have to is similar to a situation where cocoa was being produced in the west but the economy was controled from Abuja or Enugu,

This is allowed to happen in Oil industry because the NigerDeltans are in minority and are not respected,

I honestly wish Goodluck can kick start this process, Lagos has grown to the extent that the departure of these companies should not have a major effect but the states of the ND really need the economic benifits and the ripple effect on skills levels, medium scale industries, technical contracting firms etc.

Right now all these benifits are accrueing to thoses from the lagos axis and it just ain't fair,

what do you think? and how can this be achieved quickly

They pay thier taxes in abuja , and not lagos. so it does not affect lagos state, 


And river state does not collect taxes for oil on the sea of the coast of nigeria.  And if you look at the satellite pictures.
Only rivers and delta are more of state with oil well on land. The others are on sea. Akwa ibom hardly have any oil well on its land. very few in bayelsa state too.  while the one delta state is claiming as its own oil on the sea is in ondo state.  So which oil are you talk about.


Lagos get taxes from petrol use in its state. State that does not use petrol get zero.

Becomerich
Let me understand your reasoning,
Most of the Oil is produced in the Seas, so from your logic Nigeria is made up of Oil producing states and Oils producing seas, the seas do not belong to any one state and even if they do, most are near or bound Ondo state, Hence the need to maintain the status quo of Oil companies operating out of Lagos State,

For any nigerdeltan reading this, please take note, the North is not the problem of the Nigerdelta, we know who,
They will never want to let go of what they holding, even if deep down they know it is unjust.

In two countries we can easily relate to, UK and US, They have ofshore oil also,
In UK the oil companies do not operate of of london, scotish pple will never allow that (Aberdeen in UK is where u find the Oil economy, industries, recruitment, research, Oil realated education, Fabrication etc located)


In USA they will never operate out of new york because it is the financial capital, you find all the infrastructure about oil industry in Texas where the oil is,


But coming home to Nigeria, Geography becomes upside down so pple can justify nonsence, The seas no longer belong to litoral states, The taxes are paid to FGN so it doesn't matter where they are located, if they are located in Nigerdelta, they may not pay taxes to federal Govt.??


Ok lets assume that 80% of Oil is in the seas belonging to FGN (instead of states b4 FGN),
You agree that 20% is found in ND, isn't that enough reason to site the Oil Hub in that area??

This is what Nigerdeltan should expect if ND is enveloped in the oduduwa country as proposed by becomerich,

People really need to be pitied

The topic of this thread centers on how to imporve the economy of the ND states but your main interest seems to be how to keep the status quo, so that Lagos can be considered as the best place in 9ja, i don't really care if Lagos is the best place in the world, what I am interesting in is how the ND states can make best use of their resourses for economic enhancement and those things militating against them.
You have created a parallel thread in order to bi-little the subject matter by creating a thread with a sensational but senseless topic (DaLover: 80% Of Nigeria Oil Is Not Produced In The Niger Delta.). I confess its more likely to catch the eyes but any sensible person should not that ethnic chanpions are propaganda specialist. Hitler has gobbles

You tactically avoided the issues I raised, talking about things that did not matter.
I was refering to Oil production business and you talked about oil selling, I just hope you know your onions because Oil production and oil selling are 2 totally diferent businesses. Do mobil, Schlumberger, Snepco, Chevron Napims sell oil in Lagos??

I have seen in the newpapers where schlumberger and lagos state government were argueing over taxation isues, please re-confrim what you mentioned about Lagos govt not collecting tax from the Oil companies, But I know that Lagos collects tax from all companies working there.

Becomrich0:

Dalover oil is a gift of God, it is not like cocoa were people plant it. Do you know anyone who can claim he planted oil in the niger delta.

I am now convinced about what you stand for! Do you think that just any piece of land can produce cocoa productively, or the yorubas are geniuses at turning ordinary land into arable and fertile oil producing land?

People are lucky to be blessed with either
arable, fertile land that may produce specific cash crop or
minerals (Solid or Liguid)

Being blessed with arable land to grow cocoa is the equivalant of being blessed with land containing oil. Nobody put it there.

Whatevery one is blessed with, he should be able to benefit from it.
I like you because you are not like your brothers who pretend to like us, telling you that the North is our enemy while screwing us economically, you spit out your ethnically selfish truth!!

Thank God i have got a supporter on this issue.The location of these offices was done by force and not by choice.Could you imagine that all tank farms located in the niger delta were barred from distributing fuel from 1999 till Jonathan took over?People can now buy fuel 65 Naira in the east as a result of GJ's lucky ascension.It should be made mandatory for all the staff of oil companies to spend their money in the Niger delta or resign.

Abagworo:

Thank God i have got a supporter on this issue.The location of these offices was done by force and not by choice.Could you imagine that all tank farms located in the niger delta were barred from distributing fuel from 1999 till Jonathan took over?People can now buy fuel 65 Naira in the east as a result of GJ's lucky ascension.It should be made mandatory for all the staff of oil companies to spend their money in the Niger delta or resign.

Chei!
Obasanjo's evil machinations! Na wa o!
In fact, having seen how these people screw the Niger delta, I really think that Jonathan should either make HUGE changes to all these policies within these few months left for him in office, or try to contest and win next years elections. There is a lot of house cleaning and readjustments he needs to do to bring justice to Nigeria.

Talk of monkey dey work in gbaramatu gorilla dey chop in Ota. 

DaLover:

Becomerich
Let me understand your reasoning,
. . .

Dude, don't even try. Becomerich is NL's decorated nutter. . . Watchout for his maps.

DaLover:

I agree that lagos is the commericial capital of the country but I see no reasons for instance why Napims, Mobil, Chevron, Schlumberger should operate from Lagos, I can support them maintaining liason offices in Lagos, but to fully operate out of Lagos is just shamefull,

Private companies, even foreign ones, have a right to have their liason offices in Lagos, even though the very base of their operation maybe some place else. That is really the simple answer. It is done the same way in most any other industry, and country out there today and same seems to apply even in Nigeria. Creating some sort of CONSPIRACY THEORY of it all is a joke given that if the companies themselves found it inconvenient for them to maintain the current model, they would have complained and moved but have done none of that so far.

The reason the oil majors have offices in Lagos is for devide and rule. It clear as day that the Hausa-Fulani axis schemed that the best way to remain in control of oil and gas was by playing the South West against the South South, while starving the South East fuel or anything to do with the petroleum industry. Anyway, beans don burn!

Jonathan is doing all the right things by auditing the industry and slowly, but surely moving toward equity for the ND. Too many silly games have been played with Nigeria's welfare for the benefit of a wicked cabals pockets.

The oil companies have no choice, but to relocate to Warri and Porthacourt.

They all have operational base in Niger Delta. All staff that work operational base pay tax to the state assigned to. Those working in Lagos pay tax to Lagos. Only expats pay tax to FGN.

Kobojunke, maybe u did not understand me well, I don have a problem with liason offices being located in Lagos or elsewhere, that is not the case here, a liason office is usually a small setup to coordinate comminucation activities,

Its like having a company that mines coal in enugu having its major decision centers in kaduna, its just not fair, anyway you look at it,


I can see now that becomrich is a looney, I just hope the guy will not or does not occupy. Any position of power becos I can't see signs of an Adolf hitler in the making. The traits are similar, ethnic supremacist mixed mental derangement, very sad

DaLover:

Kobojunke, maybe u did not understand me well, I don have a problem with liason offices being located in Lagos or elsewhere, that is not the case here, a liason office is usually a small setup to coordinate comminucation activities,

Its have having a company that mines coal in enugu having its major decision centers in kaduna, its just not fair, anyway you look at it,

Unfortunately _{fortunately actually} , that is part of the freedom companies are allowed to enjoy and good too. A Company that mines in south america can have it's major decision centers in Birmingham AL; A company that makes most all it's products in China can have it's major decision centers located in NY,NY. It does not only happen that way in Nigeria. So, I am not sure one can claim it is UNFAIR or even go that far.

Kobojunkie:

Unfortunately _{fortunately actually} , that is part of the freedom companies are allowed to enjoy and good too. A Company that mines in south america can have it's major decision centers in Birmingham AL; A company that makes most all it's products in China can have it's major decision centers located in NY,NY. It does not only happen that way in Nigeria. So, I am not sure one can claim it is UNFAIR or even go that far.

I quite agree with you Kobojunkie, that is why a group of people who have held on to economic power for so long find it difficult to let go, so they have to be forced or cajoled or otherwise,

Companies can really operate in one place and make key economic decisions from another place, thus bypassing the citizens of the operational areas, but if the citizen in the place of operations can muster the political power they will not allow that happen, let me give examples,

For a long while, the oil companies operating in Nigeria, where carrying out their technical design and engineering functions abroad (They are free to do this), thereby denying nigerian this skills development, But the Nigerian government had to bend them to make sure that some of the functions are relocated to nigeria, in order to create positive effects on the ecomony,

In the same vain, the Oil companies operating in ND have decided to locate most of their juicy offices in lagos (majority of the nigerians in senior mgt are lagos breed),
Imagine that snake Island lagos is where napims wants the oil majors to carry out their major offshore fabrications,
Imagine that the biggest ever contract to supply helicopters to SPDC was won by a Yoruba man operating out of Lagos and many more,

Like I said, I agree with it, The companies and those controlling them are free to do what ever they please with economic decisions and how it affect those areas they operate in, especially when they persive the operational areas as weak and incapable of any formidable reaction, but they should have it at the back of their minds that change is constant and power is in constant flux.

Are you people serious or sick.  

Shell , chervon, mobil are company with several business in Nigeria. Oil drilling is not the only business they do.

So Look at the satellite picture. Imagine shell or mobil was relocate to bayelsa how many people are they going to market to. And how many petrol station do you think, is there for them.

If you own a business are you going to stay close to your market were you make money or go someone else.

Where is the largest market in Nigeria , answer lagos,,
where do you think mobil, shell and chveron have more petrol station , answer is lagos, that is why they are in lagos.

Nobody leave where they make money.

With drilling they can drill from the sea and never step thier foot on nigeria, it is the marketing that why they have contact with nigerian.   Noone leaves is money and go someone else. You want them to go broke.

Is like you asking Nduka to move thisday to his home town. If He does that he would go broke.  

In business you go where the market is. And that is why shell, mobil, etc are in lagos.

DaLover:

For a long while, the oil companies operating in Nigeria, where carrying out their technical design and engineering functions abroad (They are free to do this), thereby denying nigerian this skills development, But the Nigerian government had to bend them to make sure that some of the functions are relocated to nigeria, in order to create positive effects on the ecomony

Were they really denying Nigerians this skill or were Nigerians denying themselves these skills by refusing to educate their own in this and do all possible to INVITE them to take advantage of the skills we have, not skills we do not have, to offer?

I really hate the way we continue to analyze issues -- always placing ourselves in position of victim in it all. Countries around the world have seen fit to train their own and INVITE investors from all over to come take advantage of skills and services available. China is a classic example of this. China has to invite thousands with tantalizing packages and today, it is become the center of the global economy essentially. Even America today has seen fit to offer incentives upon incentives to help bring companies and investors back to America. What are ND Governor's and people doing? Why should the companies be IN CHARGE of sending your own people to school just because they are drilling the area? Why are we always to quick to play victim when it is all too clear what the problem is

DaLover:

In the same vain, the Oil companies operating in ND have decided to locate most of their juicy offices in lagos (majority of the nigerians in senior mgt are lagos breed),

But ever consider that Lagos offers what the ND areas do not? Why should Lagos be denied these investors just because ND, which probably cannot offer what Lagos does currently does, wants them? Please we need to start putting sentiment aside and see things as they really are. Can ND offer these companies a better package than they currently get in Lagos today? Please, we need to start thinking like educated people do and not continue to try to play victim, even after we know how it all works.

For the last time becomerich, the companies I am refering to do not sell oil in nigeria, I wish I could write yoruba, then I would explain in the language,
Is your skull this thick and impervious to reasonable data?
Do you live near a satelite earth station?
Has radiation from the satelite station permanently damaged your reasoning processes?
Could that be y u r so much inluv with satellite pictures?

I wish I see you on one of these satellite pictures,

Lets take it slowly again,

Oil marketing companies like Mobil Oil and Elf Oil are different entities from as Mobil producing and Total Producing, they don't even have the same offices,

Please try TB Joshua. I you seriously need his touch in your life

@becomerich.lagos is the biggest market in nigeria and nobody is disputing that.what is unfair is the forced location of oil companies in lagos.the oil we are talking about is produced in niger delta and exported through bonny and escravos.i doubt if bonny and escravos are that proximal to lagos,

Naturally, the oil producing states should have been the jewels of Nigeria, had it not been for MEND Brothers Kidnappers, Incorporated who drove many oil expatriates out of their states and into the “warm” embrace of Lagos. Add to that a number of visionless and unimaginative governors; it is no wonder that large areas of the ND remain undeveloped and hostile to human settlements.

If you look at the American states of Texas, Alaska, Louisiana, and California, their growth was fueled in part or largely by oil. The cities of Houston and Dallas were built on oil money, and so was the state of Alaska.

The oil producing areas of the ND should have been the catalyst of the industrial revolution in Nigeria (how many oil producing states are there in Nigeria?). They should have been home to numerous industries such as pharmaceutical (petroleum is used in the production of aspirin), cosmetic oils and greases, Industrial oils and greases, plastics resins (plastics are derived from crude oil and natural gas, for those who may not know), synthetic fibers (polyesters used in clothing are derived from petroleum), industrial and domestic detergents, chemical fertilizers, and a slew of other industries that depend crude oil for raw materials. Just think of the viral effect such a determination would have on job creation, wealth creation, education and the quality of life in those regions.

If the governors of those of those states had any brains at all, they could have joined forces to form an industrial axis to anchor the different industries I mentioned above. They could do this without the assistance of the federal government (or northerners). Such an axis would rely on its own internally generated revenue, perhaps two world-class airports to service the array of industries in their domain, superb roads and rail transportation for moving goods and people. All these they could achieve by pooling their recourses for the common good of the region.

But no! The dummies who ruled (and still rule) the ND and other oil producing regions would rather build movie studios, tourist ranches and other hopeless theme parks.

So, before you start pointing accusing fingers at others outside your region, you might want to turn around and take a closer look at your leadership and the effect MEND’s activities has had on driving investment away from the ND.

Kobojunkie:

Were they really denying Nigerians this skill or were Nigerians denying themselves these skills by refusing to educate their own in this and do all possible to INVITE them to take advantage of the skills we have, not skills we do not have, to offer?

Kobojunkie for a man who claims to be churning out educated facts let me tell you some thing about training u may not underatand,
If are refering qualified university graduates, then ND has enough, almost all the six states in the ND have 2 universities each in addition to Polys, COEs, Technical schools etc

Now if you are refering to training you get by letting your graduates work with more technical experienced people in order to ensure technology transfer, it is usually nice to ensure that the technical partner situates such an enviroment in your area,

And for your information that is how China and South korea developed, not just having plenty graduates, They forced companies to set up manufacturing, R& units in their countries, They didn't allow american and european companies to use their countries as sales outlets for thier products, that way the graduates are trainned and technology is transfered, After many years they acquire the skills to run such on their own. Do you think these ameracan and european came to china because they like china or its people,

Now Nigeria is trying to do such with the local content policy, but my argument is that local content policy should not become lagos content policy, If Goodluck is smart enough is will also start the ND content policy because everything will end in lagos.

Kobojunkie:

But ever consider that Lagos offers what the ND areas do not? Why should Lagos be denied these investors just because ND, which probably cannot offer what Lagos does currently does, wants them? Please we need to start putting sentiment aside and see things as they really are. Can ND offer these companies a better package than they currently get in Lagos today? Please, we need to start thinking like educated people do and not continue to try to play victim, even after we know how it all works.

I can also ask u the same question, when you forced shell to bring down their deep water engineering outfit from Huston texas to Lagos did you ever consider what Huston has that lagos does not??
But we decided that the Nigerian economy must grow regardless to we decided to force them to come anyway.

It is the same logic that holds in asking them to relocate to ND, with the political will, this can be done
rememer that if everybody stays in lagos because it has more faciities, it will continue to grow and other places won't

Don't be selfish spread the joy man, the Oil is produced some where else, let them enjoy it,

Pifa:


If you look at the American states of Texas, Alaska, Louisiana, and California, their growth was fueled in part or largely by oil. The cities of Houston and Dallas were built on oil money, and so was the state of Alaska.

Please add West Virginia there too. It is not New York but the people, generations of them, enjoy the product of their land and employment. All a result of people-centric policies by the government in the area.

Pifa:

The oil producing areas of the ND should have been the catalyst of the industrial revolution in Nigeria (how many oil producing states are there in Nigeria?). They should have been home to numerous industries such as pharmaceutical (petroleum is used in the production of aspirin), cosmetic oils and greases, Industrial oils and greases, plastics resins (plastics are derived from crude oil and natural gas, for those who may not know), synthetic fibers (polyesters used in clothing are derived from petroleum), industrial and domestic detergents, chemical fertilizers, and a slew of other industries that depend crude oil for raw materials. Just think of the viral effect such a determination would have on job creation, wealth creation, education and the quality of life in those regions.

Thank you!

Pifa:
[b]If the governors of those of those states had any brains at all, they could have joined forces to form an industrial axis to anchor the different industries I mentioned above. They could do this without the assistance of the federal government (or northerners). Such an axis would rely on its own internally generated revenue, perhaps two world-class airports to service the array of industries in their domain, superb roads and rail transportation for moving goods and people.

You may need to add there that these Airports and all need to come AFTER the industries at least agree to show up, not before, like the many elephant projects in the zone ('IF WE JUST BUILD IT WITHOUT SERIOUS PLANNING AND THOUGHT PUT INTO IT'S RELEVANCE, THEY WILL COME NO MATTER WHAT' MENTALITY). ROFLmao!!!

Pifa:


Naturally, the oil producing states should have been the jewels of Nigeria, had it not been for MEND Brothers Kidnappers, Incorporated who drove many oil expatriates out of their states and into the “warm” embrace of Lagos. Add to that a number of visionless and unimaginative governors; it is no wonder that large areas of the ND remain undeveloped and hostile to human settlements.

If you look at the American states of Texas, Alaska, Louisiana, and California, their growth was fueled in part or largely by oil. The cities of Houston and Dallas were built on oil money, and so was the state of Alaska.

The oil producing areas of the ND should have been the catalyst of the industrial revolution in Nigeria (how many oil producing states are there in Nigeria?). They should have been home to numerous industries such as pharmaceutical (petroleum is used in the production of aspirin), cosmetic oils and greases, Industrial oils and greases, plastics resins (plastics are derived from crude oil and natural gas, for those who may not know), synthetic fibers (polyesters used in clothing are derived from petroleum), industrial and domestic detergents, chemical fertilizers, and a slew of other industries that depend crude oil for raw materials. Just think of the viral effect such a determination would have on job creation, wealth creation, education and the quality of life in those regions.

If the governors of those of those states had any brains at all, they could have joined forces to form an industrial axis to anchor the different industries I mentioned above. They could do this without the assistance of the federal government (or northerners). Such an axis would rely on its own internally generated revenue, perhaps two world-class airports to service the array of industries in their domain, superb roads and rail transportation for moving goods and people. All these they could achieve by pooling their recourses for the common good of the region.

But no! The dummies who ruled (and still rule) the ND and other oil producing regions would rather build movies studios, tourist ranches and other hopeless theme parks.

So, before you start pointing accusing fingers at others outside your region, you might want to turn around and take a closer look at your leadership and the effect MEND’s activities has had on driving investment away from the ND.

Please your statement is totally in-complete.
Let me add here that Federal Government gave rise to the millitancy movement of today. (in as much as i condern thier approach)

Was the babaric mode of death of Ken Saro Wiwa and the the other OGoni member's not the reason for the different tactics employed by the present day Recource control fighter's.

please correct and educate ur's if i am wrong

Kobojunkie and Pifa,
The ND leadership is fuckin up big time. but that does not mean that the Oil companies should Operate from outside the ND,

Its very easy to accuse MEND for the Oil companies operating from outside the ND, but that is very myopic because from time memorial, they have set up in Lagos long before the ND crises started,

And if you talk of security, lagos is just as Bad, expats working for the oil companies are limited in movement by the security outfits of the oil companies, I know because I have worked for them, and this is since the 90's,

The ND and the whole of Nigeria are backward, but to solve the question, I would advocate for resourse control, every man works and pays taxes to the council, the councils pay taxes to the LG, LG to state and so on,
The leaders in the ND for the past 10years do not represent the pple, but that does not mean the Oil companies should operate outside the ND

mistake!

KoboJunkie,
In order words the companies are in lagos because thats where the qualified people are??
The federal government says they can't find enough graduates in the Nigerdelta??
The yoruba are producing the best graduates in nigeria,

Its really sad the extent someone would go to blemish an injustice,

I beg u win, let them be in lagos and employ, and develop the economy there, they should just come for the oil and go, when it is dried up like Oloibiri you laugh at us like Becomerich did,

They will not employ us because the senior yoruba leadership of the oil companies says that Lagos graduates are better then ND graduates??

Time will tell,

@Dalover,you are a typical ND person that is always quick to point accusing fingers forgetting that the remaining 4 fingers are pointing back at you the accuser.
Anyway I will not waste my time on this issue but simply say that you should learn to hold your ND elders and leaders accountable first before making baseless claims.

DaLover:

KoboJunkie,
In order words the companies are in lagos because thats where the qualified people are??

Actually, if you take a look at the changes that have occured in Lagos over the past couple of years, it is hard to argue that is NOT the case.

DaLover:

The federal government says they can't find enough graduates in the Nigerdelta??

I am not sure if that is what your federal Government said to YOU, but it is on record that Education is one of the major problems in many of the ND areas. Check your own countries records on your own state. No need to try to ATTACK me for stating what I know is the fact record on the area. Look up the National Bureau of Statistics and it's records on ND states as well as other states in Nigeria.

DaLover:
The yoruba are producing the best graduates in nigeria,

Na wa ooO!!! Is it ever possible for people on here to try to stay away from TRIBAL Nonsense? What has this to do with the debate so far? Is Lagos occupied by only yoruba's? Are you OK?
Is it your thinking that the Oil companies with offices in Lagos only employ yoruba's? LMAO!!

DaLover:

Its really sad the extent someone would go to blemish an injustice,

It is DISGUSTING,  not just sad!

DaLover:

I beg u win, let them be in lagos and employ, and develop the economy there, they should just come for the oil and go, when it is dried up like Oloibiri you laugh at us like Becomerich did,
They will not employ us because the senior yoruba leadership of the oil companies says that Lagos graduates are better then ND graduates??
Time will tell,

Like I said you cannot FORCE them, and any company that succumbs to such FORCE ought not to be allowed to continue operating in our democracy because that will just be unacceptable by our laws.

Becomerich.
Please can you post a satellite picture of the oil wells in the city which delta state is claiming and those when ondo state is claiming?

Becomrich0:

They pay thier taxes in abuja , and not lagos. so it does not affect lagos state,


And river state does not collect taxes for oil on the sea of the coast of nigeria. And if you look at the satellite pictures.
Only rivers and delta are more of state with oil well on land. The others are on sea. Akwa ibom hardly have any oil well on its land. very few in bayelsa state too. while the one delta state is claiming as its own oil on the sea is in ondo state. So which oil are you talk about.


Lagos get taxes from petrol use in its state. State that does not use petrol get zero.

hatch#:

@Dalover,you are a typical ND person that is always quick to point accusing fingers forgetting that the remaining 4 fingers are pointing back at you the accuser.
Anyway I will not waste my time on this issue but simply say that you should learn to hold your ND elders and leaders accountable first before making baseless claims.

I have not said they are not accountable, I am very happy with what is happening to Ibori, but the topic is on relocation of Oil Companies to ND, I hope that dos not translate to praising ND leaders in your book??

You see for every action we take or want to take, Once we blind ourselfs to facts and reason we will see no other way,
In some of my other post I explained that the reason for this topic was to improve the economy of ND within our present situation, when president abdul salem moved the NSL hq to Abuja, The westernerns were up in arms, their argument was that Abuja has no sea, OBJ came and moved it back to lagos to satisfy the west, That was power talking,
This same lagos had held NNPC hq for so many years before it recently moved to Abj, but because the NigerDeltans did not have the political power to move it, The numerous economic benefits were all enjoyed in Lagos,
According to become Kobojunkie, what is good for the Geese is not good for the gander,
FG can force shell deep offshore design office to leave huston and come to lagos but not to ND.
He 4gets that the argument that Lagos has more and better qualified graduates than ND also applies to Lagos VS Huston

I talking about a situation that has persisted for over 30years and people are saying a 30year situation has been like that because of what fashola is doing in lagos and MEND are doin in the ND.
Imagine "The Oil companies don't want to come to ND because Lagos is developing and MEND is in ND".

Kobojunkie is of the opinion that you can't force companies because it democracy, Have you forgotten how american
spec vehicles came about?? in the late 80's the american govt (A democracy) insisted that japanese companies setup manufacturering plants in the USA, The japanese firms had to comply because US market was the biggest market, now it that not forcing companies?

I actually feel depressed reading your write ups because I realise more and more that the average yoruba man will never want to let go of this juicy stuff even though you have been the greaest beneficiary, The owner have come oo
Whatever lenght you u go to justify this injustise, the time for them to move has come,

Hatch please which of my claims are baseless??

DaLover:

According to become Kobojunkie, what is good for the Geese is not good for the gander,

Please don't resort now to LYING to support your moot arguments now.

DaLover:

FG can force shell deep offshore design office to leave huston and come to lagos but not to ND.
He 4gets that the argument that Lagos has more and better qualified graduates than ND also applies to Lagos VS Huston

You still have YET To provide proof of this FORCEFUL act by the government which you claim.  

DaLover:

Kobojunkie is of the opinion that you can't force companies because it democracy, Have you forgotten how american spec vehicles came about?? in the late 80's the american govt (A democracy) insisted that japanese companies setup manufacturering plants in the USA, The japanese firms had to comply because US market was the biggest market, now it that not forcing companies?

Ah, OK then!

DaLover:

I actually feel depressed reading your write ups because I realise more and more that the average yoruba man will never want to let go of this juicy stuff even though you have been the greaest beneficiary, The owner have come oo
Whatever lenght you u go to justify this injustise, the time for them to move has come,

Again, with the Yoruba, so everyone on here who does not follow your view on this is YORUBA? Anyways, you are not the first I have debated on this and will likely not be the last. All I am more interested in is that you at least NOT MAKE THINGS UP in your desperate bid to sound out your side.

Kobojunkie:

Please don't resort now to LYING to support your moot arguments now.

This is the context in which I wrote
According to become Kobojunkie, what is good for the Geese is not good for the gander,
FG can force shell deep offshore design office to leave huston and come to lagos but not to ND.
He 4gets that the argument that Lagos has more and better qualified graduates than ND also applies to Lagos VS Huston

The word "become" was a typo

Pifa:
     
Naturally, the oil producing states should have been the jewels of Nigeria, had it not been for MEND Brothers Kidnappers, Incorporated who drove many oil expatriates out of their states and into the “warm” embrace of Lagos. Add to that a number of visionless and unimaginative governors; it is no wonder that large areas of the ND remain undeveloped and hostile to human settlements.
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So, before you start pointing accusing fingers at others outside your region, you might want to turn around and take a closer look at your leadership and the effect MEND’s activities has had on driving investment away from the ND.  

Nigeria is packed full of idiots and wicked people. What happened in the 40+ years before MEND very rightly took up arms in 2006? In that time, what revenue streams did the Nigerian govt develop? What does your state produce for instance, aside from relying on money from the ND? Have you blamed your governor for that?

First things first, the Federal govt owns the oil business; they are partnered with the oil companies in a 60 - 40 relationship. ND states are not pencilled into the contracts in any way. Therefore, blaming ND govts is the action of a dolt.

At the time Ken Saro Wiwa and the Ogoni 9 were executed for making peaceful demands, where were you? At the time so many of our communities were razed to the ground by troops paid and armed by oil companies, where were you? Yes, until recently, Shell and Chevron owned the "Nigerian" army; and they did it becuase "clever" folk like you sell themselves cheap, thinking they are scoring points against the next ethnic group. Fool.