zzzzy:
what metrics do we use to compare then? It doesn't matter if it's in house or not, they are both processors

Alot of metrics. You cannot compare to SD 845 which has alot of modem band support to the current Kirin processor which has only a few lte bands.

I hope you know the Kirin 980 isnt even released??it was announced yesterday.

You're comparing a top ranking product like the sd845 to a processor which is not even released. Lol

Realname:


Seems you just typed without thinking so it would be you said something?

Now go back and read the rubbish you wrote.

Apple uses ASeries processors , huawri foes not sell their processors to toher device makers, Samsung has their owners called Exynos and can never use a Huawei processor in their phone .

So what are you talking about? The OP doesn't know what he write and neither do you?

Bros. trust me you dont wanna go head to head.

I wasnt talking about processors in my comnent you misguided fanboy.

I was speaking generally.

So I still dont see anything smart in what you just said.

Btw let me educate you, Huawei can and wants to sell their processors to other conpanies if they want to make more profits like Samsung does in selling their displays and chips to other companies.

In business, you have to have your product go round if you want to have the largest market share.

So educate yourself and stop spewing ignorance.

u can only see such far-fetched article on nairaland,a place full of unverified info

*Intel processors still remains the fastest in the world(tho it's CISC)

*no ARM based processor have been able to match Apple's A-series processor

*Huawei processors are based on Qualcomm intellectual property, thus it doesn't license it out as based on agreement with Qualcomm...same as Samsung.

Jeromejnr:


Bros. trust me you dont wanna go head to head.

I wasnt talking about processors in my comnent you misguided fanboy.

I was speaking generally.

So I still dont see anything smart in what you just said.

Btw let me educate you, Huawei can and wants to sell their processors to other conpanies if they want to make more profits like Samsung does in selling their displays and chips to other companies.

In business, you have to have your product go round if you want to have the largest market share.

So educate yourself and stop spewing ignorance.

Close your mouth

TALKATIVE

Apple doesn't sell the A series

Samsung sell displys yes, which other phone uses the Exynos ?

Where is proof Huawei have said they will sell the kirin to other manufacturers?

Companies are cutting costs and boosting tech the way they want by making their own chips

d33types:


Alot of metrics. You cannot compare to SD 845 which has alot of modem band support to the current Kirin processor which has only a few lte bands.

I hope you know the Kirin 980 isnt even released??it was announced yesterday.

You're comparing a top ranking product like the sd845 to a processor which is not even released. Lol

tell that to all tech sites, huawei did the comparison when announcing it.

Life...

Soon all these "top-notch" technologies will be obsolete and then some generation will now be saying things like "If you used a device with Snapdragon 845 or Exynos 9810 or A11 Bionic or Kirin 980 processors, you're too old to be alive".

Or "if you used a 5G network device, you must be a grandparent by now...

johnmattew:
u can only see such far-fetched article on nairaland,a place full of unverified info



no ARM based processor have been able to match Apple's A-series processor

Says who if u dig deeper u would see that even the snap 845 matches d A11 on sustained speed rather than burst speed. Apple is only good at burst speed that's why they perform very well on benchmarks. Now this news will further make Chinese branded phones contend with d high end. By 2020 I xpect any 100k phone to give d iPhone a run for its money.

SimplePlan34:


Says who if u dig deeper u would see that even the snap 845 matches d A11 on sustained speed rather than burst speed. Apple is only good at burst speed that's why they perform very well on benchmarks. Now this news will further make Chinese branded phones contend with d high end. By 2020 I xpect any 100k phone to give d iPhone a run for its money.

mtchewww....even a year older iPhone x is faster than 2 weeks old note 9

SimplePlan34:


Says who if u dig deeper u would see that even the snap 845 matches d A11 on sustained speed rather than burst speed. Apple is only good at burst speed that's why they perform very well on benchmarks. Now this news will further make Chinese branded phones contend with d high end. By 2020 I xpect any 100k phone to give d iPhone a run for its money.

lol at by 2020.....did u realise that apple makes about 90% of smartphone profits?

Waiting for snapdragon retaliation

Realname:


Close your mouth

TALKATIVE

Apple doesn't sell the A series

Samsung sell displys yes, which other phone uses the Exynos ?

Where is proof Huawei have said they will sell the kirin to other manufacturers?

Companies are cutting costs and boosting tech the way they want by making their own chips

Ignoramus. If you were enlightened you will know.

Apple's chip uses a different architecture that goes hand in hand or specially optimized with the ios software. The ycant sell their chips out even if they want to.

Besides, Exynos and Qualcomm handles multi core threading operations better than Apple's. ( If you even know what that means)

Samsung is also selling their exynos to ZTE.

All phone manufactures will want all companies to depend on their products for more profits.

Business is all about profits and not ego young man.

johnmattew:
mtchewww....even a year older iPhone x is faster than 2 weeks old note 9

Faster by how many micro milli seconds that nobody notices except geekbench provides their scores.

Everyone talks of faster but can it handle more heavy operations like the qualcomm or Exynos can?

johnmattew:
lol at by 2020.....did u realise that apple makes about 90% of smartphone profits?

Bros cool down no company makes 90% margins. My 2020 predictions is for developing countries. The iPhone X is already said to be the most underwhelming new mobile device released by Apple but still behind d iwatch Europe is already embracing Huawei.

austino677:
i don't think, it just like waiting for the downfall of Apple but they keep growing... Huawei won't beat Samsung

people said so about Samsung beating Nokia but we know how it went. Why buy Samsung Galaxy Note 9 for $1000 while the pocophone F1 running same Sd845 goes for just $300.

Jeromejnr:


Ignoramus. If you were enlightened you will know.

Apple's chip uses a different architecture that goes hand in hand or specially optimized with the ios software. The ycant sell their chips out even if they want to.

Besides, Exynos and Qualcomm handles multi core threading operations better than Apple's. ( If you even know what that means)

Samsung is also selling their exynos to ZTE.

All phone manufactures will want all companies to depend on their products for more profits.

Business is all about profits and not ego young man.

Samsung sells their displays to flagship devices . Which flagship device uses Exynos ? Sony? Apple,, htc, opportunity, xaomi, OnePlus.Google pixel Etc?

Oh yes ZTE? You are a Talkative. Read up on Samsung and ZTE relationship. Mumu. Imagine tecno making a chip and selling to Infinix and you say they sell their chips

Making your chips and not selling to competition isn't just about ego it's about giving your device a competitive edge in performance and functions .

You are just a tech fan boy making noise

GTFOH

Huawei

Realname:


Samsung sells their displays to flagship devices . Which flagship device uses Exynos ? Sony? Apple,, htc, opportunity, xaomi, OnePlus.Google pixel Etc?

Oh yes ZTE? You are a Talkative. Read up on Samsung and ZTE relationship. Mumu. Imagine tecno making a chip and selling to Infinix and you say they sell their chips

Making your chips and not selling to competition isn't just about ego it's about giving your device a competitive edge in performance and functions .

You are just a tech fan boy making noise

GTFOH

Bros you be mumu.

You see why I said educate yourself.

Samsung will stop making phones very soon (according to their blueprints) as there is little profits these days in the smartphone business and they are going ahead to focus and manufacure chips e.t.c

Many Phone manufacturers will follow suite (because mobile phone innovation has reached its peak for now) and hence need to make sure their processors e.t.c are used widely by other manufacturers.

That is why there is a fierce competition now in chipset technology.

Tell me again why Samsung wont want the competition to use Exynos?

TechCapon:
TechCapon



Huawei has unleashed the next generation processor, Kirin 980 and it’s the most powerful processor ever made. Despite all sanctions from the US, Huawei is getting stronger and stronger. The company recently overtook Apple as the 2nd largest smartphone company based on sales while edging closer to Samsung. The Kirin 980 is more powerful than the Qualcomm Snapdragon 845 which is found in most flagship phones.



Commenting on the launch,Richard Yu, CEO of HUAWEI Consumer Business Group, said: “Last year, we showed the world the potential of On-Device AI with the Kirin 970, and this year, we’ve designed an all-round powerhouse that not only features outstanding AI capabilities, but also brings cutting-edge raw performance to consumers.Equipped with all-new CPU, GPU and Dual NPU, the Kirin 980 is the ultimate engine to power the next-generation productivity and entertainment applications”.

Kirin 980 vs Snapdragon 845



Highlights of Huawei Kirin 980 SoC

Up to 2.6GHz dual-core ARM Cortex A76 + up to 1.9 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex A76 + up to 1.8GHz ARM Cortex A55, i8 co processor
720 MHz ARM Mali-G76MP10 GPU
TSMC 7nm process
Memory: 4x 16-bit LPDDR4X at 2133MHz
Dual Neural Processing Unit (NPU)
Dual ISP with 46% increase in performance
Video: HDR10; 4K at 60fps decoding, 4K at 30fps encoding
Security Engine
Integrated Multi-mode 4G LTE Modem – Category 21 FDD / TDD for downloads (up to 1.4 Gbps), 4 x 4 MIMO, 5CC CA, 256QAM; 200 Mbps downloads, 2×2 MIMO, 1x20MHz CA, 256-QAM
5G ready with Balong 5000 Modem



The problem is top smartphone companies like Samsung, SONY, LG, Apple will be afraid of using this powerful chipset because of sanctions American government placed on Huawei which is purely political. They don’t want to lose their American market share. They know if they use equipment from Huawei, the big hammer of the US government will fall on their heads. But then Huawei has proven to the world you can still make your money without United States. The first smartphone that will be powered by the Kirin 980 is the Huawei Mate 20 series expected to launch September/October

SOURCE:https://techcapon.com/huaweis-kirin-980-is-the-worlds-most-powerful-and-intelligent-chipset-ever/

The sanctions does not stop other phone companies from using Kirin chipsets. They will simply sell phones that uses Kirin chipsets outside the U.S and bring same phones that uses Snapdragon chipset to the U.S.

It simply deprives American consumers from having access to the most powerful chipsets in the market. They will no longer be able to chose from the variety of chipsets available in the world.

michlins:
people said so about Samsung beating Nokia but we know how it went. Why buy Samsung Galaxy Note 9 for $1000 while the pocophone F1 running same Sd845 goes for just $300.

same screen quality? curved edge, spen and alot of features... hope you saw Netflix bug on pocophone?

austino677:
same screen quality? curved edge, spen and alot of features... hope you saw Netflix bug on pocophone?

few people use the full features of the Note 9. Even folks are complaining about the bibxy feature of the Note 9. It's just a debut device who knows what they would launch later

austino677:
same screen quality? curved edge, spen and alot of features... hope you saw Netflix bug on pocophone?

You are on point bro.

michlins:
few people use the full features of the Note 9. Even folks are complaining about the bibxy feature of the Note 9. It's just a debut device who knows what they would launch later

Only few are complaining of bixby. And they are doing so because they heard some google fanboy youtubers say so.

When in fact Bixby far surpasses others.

What people don't understand is that Bixby needs to be trained and it evolves as it does so. You can do everything on your phone without touching it once it is trained.

Jeromejnr:


Ignoramus. If you were enlightened you will know.

Apple's chip uses a different architecture that goes hand in hand or specially optimized with the ios software. The ycant sell their chips out even if they want to.

Besides, Exynos and Qualcomm handles multi core threading operations better than Apple's. ( If you even know what that means)

Samsung is also selling their exynos to ZTE.

All phone manufactures will want all companies to depend on their products for more profits.

Business is all about profits and not ego young man.

the guy is correct and u are TOTALLY wrong


*apple DOESN'T use DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE...all mobile processor are based on RISC architecture also known as ARM.unlike Intel and AMD that uses CISC

*Samsung won't sell processor to ZTE as it's an agreement btw Samsung and Qualcomm not to do dat .that's because Samsung uses Qualcomm LTE.sammy can only sell processor to ZTE when 5G is out....mind u,ZTE ban has been lifted by USA

*Samsung only beat apple in single core threading

*who cares about muticores when a year old iPhone x trash 3 weeks old note 9?

Krak:

The sanctions does not stop other phone companies from using Kirin chipsets. They will simply sell phones that uses Kirin chipsets outside the U.S and bring same phones that uses Snapdragon chipset to the U.S.

It simply deprives American consumers from having access to the most powerful chipsets in the market. They will no longer be able to chose from the variety of chipsets available in the world.

true

michlins:
people said so about Samsung beating Nokia but we know how it went. Why buy Samsung Galaxy Note 9 for $1000 while the pocophone F1 running same Sd845 goes for just $300.

That's where you guys miss out, why is the pocophone F1 even cheaper than Mi 8 despite being the same brand and the earlier been a newer phone and rnning a newer chipset?

Jeromejnr:


Only few are complaining of bixby. And they are doing so because they heard some google fanboy youtubers say so.

When in fact Bixby far surpasses others.

What people don't understand is that Bixby needs to be trained and it evolves as it does so. You can do everything on your phone without touching it once it is trained.

forcing it down the consumers throats is what the people are complaining about.

Krak:

The sanctions does not stop other phone companies from using Kirin chipsets. They will simply sell phones that uses Kirin chipsets outside the U.S and bring same phones that uses Snapdragon chipset to the U.S.

It simply deprives American consumers from having access to the most powerful chipsets in the market. They will no longer be able to chose from the variety of chipsets available in the world.

u are totally wrong..... Samsung and Huawei to sell processors to other OEMs...that will violate agreement with Qualcomm

secondly,Samsung and Huawei only use their processors outside United States of America.....all Samsung and Huawei phones sold in USA are snapdragon based

Realname:


Close your mouth

TALKATIVE

Apple doesn't sell the A series

Samsung sell displys yes, which other phone uses the Exynos ?

Where is proof Huawei have said they will sell the kirin to other manufacturers?

Companies are cutting costs and boosting tech the way they want by making their own chips

You talk like you know it all.

Meizu once used Exynos if you don't know!

johnmattew:
u are totally wrong..... Samsung and Huawei to sell processors to other OEMs...that will violate agreement with Qualcomm

secondly,Samsung and Huawei only use their processors outside United States of America.....all Samsung and Huawei phones sold in USA are snapdragon based

Meizu once used Exynos in their device...

johnmattew:
the guy is correct and u are TOTALLY wrong


*apple DOESN'T use DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE...all mobile processor are based on RISC architecture also known as ARM.unlike Intel and AMD that uses CISC

*Samsung won't sell processor to ZTE as it's an agreement btw Samsung and Qualcomm not to do dat .that's because Samsung uses Qualcomm LTE.sammy can only sell processor to ZTE when 5G is out....mind u,ZTE ban has been lifted by USA

*who cares about muticores when a year old iPhone x trash 3 weeks old note 9?

Good even tho your argument was much more constructive and objective.

You were wrong in some parts.

However, my point is that Samsung has to sell the exynos which he said they cant.

But that aside, lets go to the iphone x.

Please do not mention the iphone x near the king of phones..the Note 9.

The whole world knows the Note 9 is best and preferable. Even aliens love the note 9 except biased and decived apple fanboys gals.

I have had this argument and always come out on top. There is nothing the iphone x offers that is special for its price. Why get that when you can get a note 9?
All people have to do is tell whats so special about the iphone x apart from d normal its faster bla bla...Because of what they read somewhere online.

Elxandre:


You talk like you know it all.

Meizu once used Exynos if you don't know!

There you go again talking nonsense

Smh

michlins:
forcing it down the consumers throats is what the people are complaining about.

Well.. Apple forces down a lot on its consumers but they wont complain about it.

If they don't want Bixby they should simply disable it and stop ranting.