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Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by blazer2018: 11:11pm On Sep 03, 2018
jayson87:
who did we offend, that God decided to punish us with Buhari. This picture speaks volume


You are just bn mischievous...was he d only one standing like that? You now purposely cropped d original picture to satisfy whatever ur intention is...Plus is there a way one must stand in dis kinda setup? Abeg stop hating...and if u can't but help to hate, do so with sense.


The man in suit behind Buhari is standing the same way...so is d President in white Agbada

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Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by lastempero: 11:18pm On Sep 03, 2018
At least is better for them to be in prison than to be wasted, they knew what they where doing and the consequences.
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by Daboomb: 11:53pm On Sep 03, 2018
sarrki:


I don’t know you as an ethnic bigot

Nigeria soldier is not about region

Please bro don’t descend so low

I also dont know you to be a hypocrite and you should not start now!

The question he asked is very legitimate.
Would you rather pretend something does not exist, rather than actually try to find out if it actually exists?


Is it right, if that is the case that Soldiers who had spent three years on tour and were heading home, are suddenly told at the Airport that they are starting another tour round?
Do you know what it means to be on tour duty for THREE YEARS.... and to come back alive when most of your mates are "wasted" (I said "wasted" because that is the best way to describe the situation where Soldiers on ground are not protected with all means (assets) possible and have to die avoidable deaths

For example, why dont we have or deploy aerial reconniasance planes or drones equipped with heat & infra red capabilities, to IDENTIFY location of enemy combatants, then use aerial bombardments to soften them before using Boots on ground to do final mop-up operations, in that order, so as to minimise casualties .......... as opposed to just 'ordering soldiers' to proceed to face enemy fire?

Is it that the officers dont really care about the number of Soldiers they lose in battle (in sane climes, Generals that lose the number of soldiers we lose in battle regularly would have been disgraced out of the military for tactical incompetence) or are they saying our soldiers are incompetent, ill-trained and cowards (l refuse to accept that) or that Boko haram Commanders are better and more tactically intelligent than our own commanders?

Let me quote the COAS: "Chief of Army Staff, Lt. General Yusuf Buratai, yesterday, described the action of the soldiers as strange and unacceptable.

Speaking for the first time since the incident in Maiduguri two weeks ago, Buratai said: “The incident at the Maiduguri airport that happened just about two weeks ago is an issue, which ordinarily is unimaginable, that disciplined troops, soldiers will behave in that way.

So, he agress that our Soldiers are Disciplined.
he agrees that their actions are unimaginable.

Then, he should be asking himself: WHAT WENT WRONG, what did he do or did not do, to make disciplined soldiers do that which is unimaginable?

It is too easy to just order that they be court-martialed (that could mean death by bullets, at times) because this is not the first time this sort of thing is happening and it is not likely to be the last.

Judging by the number of soldiers in the NA, why is it that a few number, (l wont speculate on whether they belong to a particular region though that would throw light on the 'state of mind' of the protesting soldiers and any investigating superior officer worth his pips ought to look at that "statistics"wink, why is it that just a few bunch were in the war front, in active combat, for a whole three years, when it is not even an overseas tour and then when they thought they are going to take a deep breath, the COAS orders them back to the front again?

How long should a tour be, really?
What was the COAS thinking when he made this order? Is it that we dont have fresh and ready soldiers in reserve anymore that it is only tired soldoers who are worn out after three years of tour, that have to be recycled to face fresh enemy combatants?

How long has the COAS himself stayed close to the front, aside one or two 'visits to boost morale'?
What manner of decision is that? What is the rationale?

Let us not be pretending that all is fine, soldiers, especially Nigerian soldiers, dont disobey a COAS order, except it is a matter of life and death and beyond their control because they know the consequences.
This happend at an Airport, what it happened when a Garisson is being run-over, can we imagine the consequence on our collective security?


The NA should look beyond just "disobedience", it should establish what was going on when this event happened and what really led to it.
Only by doing so will it prevent a reoccurence, whose consequence no one can predict.

God Bless our gallant Nigerian Army, its Officers and Soldiers.
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by Daboomb: 12:02am On Sep 04, 2018
Ugosample:


most of the soldiers there are from the north

just know that

before you say something from your bissed mind


B.Shyte.

You should rather keep quiet and not make categorical statements on a matter you have no clue on.
But if you must, l challenge you to come up with verifiable proof of your assertion, that they are from the North.
Give us names and service Numbers or anything verifiable to back up your claim
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by Daboomb: 12:13am On Sep 04, 2018
Blue3k:
There's propper channels to express grievances and if they want to risk jail time by engaging in mutiny they should have restraint. They messed up firing weapons.

The source in story mentioned insufficient plantforms and bad weather making them scared. Im assuming the platforms mean mounted guns or vehicles. These guys could survive without basic equipment for year.


They were not scared, every soldier knows that death is a necessary end and it will come when it will come.
They were just TIRED, mentally Tired. Soldiers in such state of mind are better-off sent to rest because they are of no use at the front

Platforms refer to support you get from other arms of the military.
For example, our soldiers have been working into ambush like blind-folded Ants when the NAF could have done the reconnaisance for them, using equipments that they have (aeiral surveillance, body heat detectors, , e.t.c ), pounded the area tosoften the targets and still do overflights to prevent escape and regrouping.

When we fail our soldiers, we then demand that they act like invincibles when in actual fact, they can only become invincible by the amount of equipment and support we accord them.

Instead of accepting our failures of leadership, we further worsen the situation by first trying to re-instate discipline, as it that was the original problem, rather than attending to what led to the percieved indicipline.!\

Its worth being a LEADER, rather trying to be a BOSS.

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Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by Daboomb: 12:24am On Sep 04, 2018
AllahSWT:
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you think military is your family meeting where you can slap your family leader and get away with it

intentions may be good but no country tolerates mutiny

Tell me one country in the world where serving Officers own luxury homes overseas or own billions in their bank accounts?
Tell me one country in the world where military top-brass embezzle money meant to buy weapons to equip their soldiers?
Tell me one country in the world where top Brass send their soldiers to the front to face well eqipped enemy combatants and they refuse to support their soldiers with the best equiments and tactis that could ensure victory?

If you find that country, such a country has already institutionalised MUTINY in its rank and file, it goes beyomd whether they would tolerate it or not.

READ: Nigeria
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by arrestdarrester: 12:34am On Sep 04, 2018
Blue3k:
These consequences were bound to happen. Oh well all the can is get comfortable in prison and hope for a pardon after the war is over. These guys are definitely going to be punished severely since dhots were fired if I recall correctly. I do agree they were servered too long on front lines. They should been rotated more.



Set aside sentiments. There are proper ways in military to express grievances. Engaging in mutiny is not the answer especially when they were discharging their weapons. All these guys have families but they cant let that interfere with millitary discipline. The fact they severed so long is millitary's fault.

Wrong! There are no proper ways to express grievances in the military, because you are not expected to have grievances. You simply take orders as the military do not recognize any rights.

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Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by Ugosample(m): 12:57am On Sep 04, 2018
Daboomb:



B.Shyte.

You should rather keep quiet and not make categorical statements on a matter you have no clue on.
But if you must, l challenge you to come up with verifiable proof of your assertion, that they are from the North.
Give us names and service Numbers or anything verifiable to back up your claim

At least 60% of those posted there are northern folk

Christians and Muslims, but that does not matter because they are from the north, whether Christian or Muslim.

And I got my info from reliable sources, because I have enough relatives who are service men.
(that is a major reason why I am sympathetic to them)

The problem we are having is that this rotation and deployment of a thing is done via connection, meaning that if you have a godfather, you will be less likely to be deployed to the war front.

But because southern folks are already biased, stupid people are spreading the narrative that it is southern (Igbo) people that they are sending to the front to die.

When Col. Ali was killed, did you check the name of those who died with him in his team?

When Lt Haruna was also killed with his squad, did you bother to check the names,,?

I will not say more than this, those who know, know what's happening

But Nigerians being biased, dumb and stupid are easily manipulated to believe biased narratives
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by kidsam: 1:24am On Sep 04, 2018
When will the IGP be tried for mutiny after he defied the order of the C in C to stay in Maiduguri till the herdsmen are brought to book

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Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by egoldman(m): 3:40am On Sep 04, 2018
jayson87:
You don't know a smart and courageous disposition when you see one

Gbam.
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by Nobody: 3:54am On Sep 04, 2018
kennypoju04:
If you know you can't handle it why joining in the first place
Do you think they joined the army because of passion for the job?Na unemployment cause am.
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by 007inc: 4:34am On Sep 04, 2018
sarrki:
Know soldier should be tried for anything

Seriously going to the north east alone is worth everything

The problem was created by politicians

They have children, families and loved ones too
grin Mugu.
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by 007inc: 4:36am On Sep 04, 2018
N0favors:


Illiterate
Don’t mind the Mugu
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by Zimmermann(m): 5:41am On Sep 04, 2018
Southern Officers...
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by Unemadu: 5:51am On Sep 04, 2018
They should send python dancers
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by RillJ(m): 6:47am On Sep 04, 2018
You voted him into power, that is what you did.


jayson87:
who did we offend, that God decided to punish us with Buhari. This picture speaks volume
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by sayisayi(m): 6:53am On Sep 04, 2018
They are scared of a bigger snake!
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by CioAngels(f): 7:09am On Sep 04, 2018
Send them to be wasted and and corner their allowances and entitlement to Dubai. You dont equipment the soldiers for war yet you send them to fight with boko haram you are paying to get sophisticated equipment to fight the empty soldiers. A times i see this tough talking as a way to coverup their inadequacies. If the are well taken care off and the right equipment are given to them, there will be no reason for their mutinous stance or less Buratai is intentionally doing this so that the soldiers can revolt then punish them just like this. They are quiet aware they not to protest because they signed to die needless death because boko haram was created for selfish power position and now here they are paying them huge money and yet they can no longer stop them as they started them. The SAN (Falana) of the voiceless, your attention is needed again.
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by AlphaStyles(m): 7:42am On Sep 04, 2018
comshots:
Do you think they joined the army because of passion for the job?Na unemployment cause am.
dem tell u say army job no count as employment? i dnt know how africans dy think sef sometimes
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by AlphaStyles(m): 7:46am On Sep 04, 2018
sayisayi:
They are scared of a bigger snake!
boko no big rotate those soldiers,give them modern military equipment and send in helicopters and jets and lets see who go run
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by AlphaStyles(m): 7:49am On Sep 04, 2018
CioAngels:
Send them to be wasted and and corner their allowances and entitlement to Dubai. You dont equipment the soldiers for war yet you send them to fight with boko haram you are paying to get sophisticated equipment to fight the empty soldiers. A times i see this tough talking as a way to coverup their inadequacies. If the are well taken care off and the right equipment are given to them, there will be no reason for their mutinous stance or less Buratai is intentionally doing this so that the soldiers can revolt then punish them just like this. They are quiet aware they not to protest because they signed to die needless death because boko haram was created for selfish power position and now here they are paying them huge money and yet they can no longer stop them as they started them. The SAN (Falana) of the voiceless, your attention is needed again.
tell dem even us generals dy think bfre they deploy their soldiers
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 8:00am On Sep 04, 2018
jayson87:
who did we offend, that God decided to punish us with Buhari. This picture speaks volume

Aboki Mallam must always show himself.
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by EDOLUWA: 8:04am On Sep 04, 2018
There won't be any need for mutiny if they are well equipped, remunerated and fully backed up by the Miltary authority.

I feel so sorry for these gallant soldiers.
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by maasoap(m): 3:02pm On Sep 05, 2018
jayson87:
He is really reTIRED... he should go to daura and sit on his old hag bug infested chair come 2019. Nigeria doesn't need him to be at the forefront of over 200million persons as citizens

Yeah, we were doing great until he became our president.
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by MIKOLOWISKA: 1:46pm On Sep 07, 2018
sarrki:
Know soldier should be tried for anything

Seriously going to the north east alone is worth everything

The problem was created by politicians

They have children, families and loved ones too
what they signed up for. There are ways to channel grievances in the military. Insubordination is not one of them
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by MIKOLOWISKA: 1:54pm On Sep 07, 2018
sarrki:


Agreed to your points bro

But you know what depression can cause

We all sleep at the comfort of our loved ones

They don’t have that comfort
then they should not choose military career
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by MIKOLOWISKA: 1:55pm On Sep 07, 2018
sarrki:


I don’t know you as an ethnic bigot

Nigeria soldier is not about region

Please bro don’t descend so low
chairman it is
Everything in Nigeria is politics
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by MIKOLOWISKA: 1:56pm On Sep 07, 2018
cosmatika:
Mutiny kill Buhari, Buratai and Dambazzu there. After paying them peanuts, u ll send them to fight with boko haram with outdated weapons while u fund BH to buy the latest arms. Anyway I don talk am, any Igbo man that dies fighting in d NA committed suicide. Why shud I fight for the Zoo? sad
no fight no general
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by MIKOLOWISKA: 1:57pm On Sep 07, 2018
shaydeenamz:
just lost a frnd in maiduguri..they keep sending boys dat have litle or no experience on the field and dis boys getting killed on a daily basis for christ sake what is happening to nigerian army
they are badly trained
Re: Maiduguri Airport Mutiny: Army Captain, 70 Others Detained For Trial by MIKOLOWISKA: 1:58pm On Sep 07, 2018
AlphaStyles:
if you are going to send soldiers to a place were boko haram is using them to do target practise then you had better send in the tough ones and with better military equipment and backup from the airforce am with the soldiers on this one
we have no tough soldiers.

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