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Countering The Jehovah's Witness View Of Christ's Diety (also For Christians) / Which Hymn Or Song Represents The True Essence Of Christianity / The True Founder And History Of The Catholic Church. (2) (3) (4)
|Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by blueAgent(m): 6:44pm On Sep 21, 2018|
A lot people ask which religeon is the true one or do all religeons lead to the same God? how do we know which religeon is the true religeon? to answer this questions we will examine the beliefs & Views of 6 of the World largest religeons we then apply Logic/reasoning and physical and scientific evidence to know which of the religeons has the most truth and its Diety is the true one.
6*Buddhism:Is the 6th largest religeon with about 376million adherents. Buddhism teaches that the World was not created once upon a time but that the World has been created millions of times every seconds and will continue to do so by itself until it breaks away by itself They believe the begining of the World & life is inconceviable. questions about the eternity and infinity of the Universe are counted as unaswerable questions which the Buddha see as unproductive and useless for one to acheive enlightement. Buddha's believe in re-incarnation.
5*Chinese Traditional Religeon or Taoism(394million) : This is the World 5th largest religeon it has its origin in China. In Taoism creation account , in the begining of time there was only chaos, the Heavens mixed with the Earth organization in the Universe was sleeping in the chaos in the form of an egg. after about 18000yrs of incubation the egg hatched into pure elements called Heavens or Yang and less pure element called the Earth or Yin from the Yang & Yin a great gaint Pan Ku was born who with the assistance of a Phoenix ,Tortoise,Dragon & Unicorn shaped the World the way we know today.
4*Hinduism:Hinduism is the World 3rd largest religeon with 900million adherents in Hinduism there are no clear or consistent account of the origin of the life or the Universe some creation theories are life coming from the cracking of an enormous egg which is the life from which the Universe is born to accounts like Brahman seperating a flower into 3parts Heavens,Earth & Sky,In the hymn of creation from Rig Veda it is concluded that nobody knows how the Universe came into being and even questions weather Brahma knows.
3*Non-religeous group(secular,Agnostic,Atheist): This is the 3rd largest group With about 1.1billion adherents this group lacks a founder,religeous laws,or written scriptures no Diety is worshipped or recognised, non-religeous people support liberal views and believe that Man can over his challenges. non-religeous adherents believe the Universe came into existence through bigbang, while life originated through several natural process that later evolued to Humans they believe that Matter and Universe were always existing thus they are eternal.
2* Islam: is the World 2nd largest religeon with over 1.2billion adherents Islam was founded by prophet Muhammad.Islam is a monotheistic religeon, in Islam it is believed that the Universe was created by Allah it is also believed that Prophet Muhammed was influnced by Jews living in Arabia, this had much impact on his writings and stories in Quran, hence the source of some similarities with Bible stories.
1*Christainity:Is the World largest religeon with over 2.2billion adherents Christain beliefs and doctrine are based on the inspired word of God called the Bible Christains believe that Jesus is Son of God who died as a sacrifice for the sins of humanity, christains believe that God created the Universe by his power & wisdom & that Humans were made by God in his image. evil & suffering is seen as the consquences of sin. Adherents believe that God who is love,mercifull & just will destory evil & restore the Universe to one of peace & love
Points to consider.
We will now consider some established facts and evidence.
1.Matter & Universe
2.Origin of Life
3. Law & Order
4. Self Evidence and revelation
1. Scientists have discovered that our Universe has a begining, this implies that it was caused to exist and it is not eternal.
This raises the question of weather mind (conscouisness) proceeded matter or matter proceed the mind.
Applying logic will tell us that mind proceeded matter for nothing can come from nothing this point disqualifies the religeons & dieties of Taoism,Hinduism and non-religeous group as the true religeon or god since they hold the view that matter proceeds mind and the Universe and matter is eternal.
2.Origin of Life: The law of Abiogenesis states that life can only come from an existing life.
Since mind proceeds matter the true diety must be self existent thus it does not require a source of life. This disqualifies the gods of Taoism,hinduism,buddhism & non-religeous religeons as the true god since they were either born (have a beginning) or got life from matter(non-living thing)
This is illogical and Scienctifically impossible.
3.Law & Order:Scientist have observed that the Universe is controlled by certain set laws e.g the law of gravity,force, energy Atomicity, laws of space,e.t.c and constants that make life possible this is called The Anthropic Principle by Scientists. Law & order can only be insistuted by a mind or conscouisness who is the lawgiver, be it moral laws or natural laws This point disqualifies the gods of Taoism,budahism,hindisum since they have no laws or written scriptures it also disqualifies the non-religeous group as the true religeon as they lack written scriptures,a founder(mind or law giver) or established laws & Norms matter cannot insistute laws & order.
4.Self evidence & revelation:
A major way to know and understand the real diety is by self evidence or revelations given to us by the diety, in Hinduism there is no clear or consistent account of the existence of a diety, in Taoism & Shinto there are no inspired written scriptures by the diety identifying himself and revealing his Character, nature,Power and its purpose for mankind
This point also disqualifies non-religeous group as natural processes reveal/ show evidence of design rather than random events.
5.Authority: As a supreme being a true diety would excerise its authorithes over the entire Universe and its inhabitant,the true god will claim ownership, issue commands and decree as well as pass judgements.
In Shinto & Taoism the diety Pan ku after 18000yrs of creating and building the World died and their are no written scriptures that express the authority and power of the diety Pan Kung and Shinto this point also disqulifies the gods of buddahism & hinduism.
Another argument against buddhism & hinduism is that the Universe undergoing an infinite series of births and death is impossible as each cycle must have less energy avialable than the last and if it has been happening for eternity everything and person would have been dead.
Examining the Christain Diety(God)
*Matter & Universe: Since the Universe have been proven to have a begining then it must have been started by an uncaused mind or being
Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth ETERNITY, whose name is Holy.
Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Secondly We all agree that nothing can come from nothing then matter must have been made from invisible things and not from things seen The bible God gives us the answer. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
1 Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
*Law & Order:this requires a law giver the Christain God gives us the answer.
Isaiah 33:22 For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.
In Jeremiah 33:25 Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have
not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
Job 38:33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in
the earth? and also in Jeremiah 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars
for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name.
*Origin of Life:The law of Abiogenesis has never been disproved that means life must have come from an uncaused life
The Christain diety reveals itself as the only being who has life inherently. John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by blueAgent(m): 6:45pm On Sep 21, 2018|
*Self evidence & Revelation. The bible the inspired word of God reveals several scientific facts about the Universe thousands of years before science could have known them eg water cycle,Job 36:27-28, expanding Universe, Psalms 104:2 ,Earth suspended in space,Job 26:7, Shape of the Earth, Isaiah 40:22
Wind cycles,Ecclesiastes 1:6, genetics, Genesis 30 ,Laws of the Universe, Size of the Universe Jeremiah 31:37, Number of Stars, Jeremiah 33:22, Space travel.
The bible also fortells of future events thousands of years before they were fufilled it also declear how the Universe was made. All through the Bible the character of God is been revealed as merciful,kind,Righteous and just.
Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
*Authority: God through the Bible declears himself as the sole creator and sustainer of the Universe and commands his creatures to Worship and adore him.
Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
1 Chronicles 16:26 For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.
1 Chronicles 16:26 For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
*Consistent & verifiable:The bible writings and record are consistent (every part of the bible agrees with each other)The bible is the only book that provides answers to man's problem & questions, many stories events and personalities in the bible have been verified and confirmed to have happened or existed by Archaeologists and historians
After considering the facts with the physical and scientific evidence available it becomes clear that Christainity is the only religeon that meets and fufills all the points we raised only christainity has absolute truth in it, while islam and Quran share certain Christain views, it is known to have many inconsistent and unproven facts.
God is the only true God who alone made the Heavens and Earth every other gods and their religeons are nothing but myths and human inventions.
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|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by DeSepiero(m): 8:17pm On Sep 21, 2018|
Christianity is the one true religion because some bible passages corroborate scientific facts?
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by blueAgent(m): 4:44am On Sep 22, 2018|
No, beyond that Christainity matches reality,logic and evidence which we can all see.
For example how do you explain a Mad man been healed of Insanity or someone who was diagonized HIV or SS genotype turning negative or to AA, only a miracle can be the logical answer.
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by DeSepiero(m): 7:46am On Sep 22, 2018|
Are you concluding that no other religious book matches reality, logic and evidence?
Your second statement has nothing to do with bible or Christianity
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by blueAgent(m): 3:58am On Sep 24, 2018|
Yes. and if there is any other religeon you can share it with us.
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by CHIGIM: 4:58am On Sep 24, 2018|
brainwash, another white slave.just so u know jesus was not a Christian in is time but a jew
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by blueAgent(m): 6:10pm On Sep 24, 2018|
You contracdict yourself the word Christainity is derived from the word Christ. Jesus was very much a Jew as well as a Christain same with Paul,Peter and many apostles.
Been a Jew does not forbid one from been a Christain.
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by CHIGIM: 8:21pm On Sep 26, 2018|
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by SmartestG: 9:26pm On Sep 26, 2018|
Interesting. I have already started doing a study on this issue... The first parameters I considered were archeological evidence from stories written in each holy book, and accuracy of prophecies/revelations. This writeup will help my quest.
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by blueAgent(m): 11:09pm On Sep 26, 2018|
CHIGIM:Who is confused?
|Re: Lets Find Out The True Religeon And Diety by blueAgent(m): 11:11pm On Sep 26, 2018|
Thats good ,i wish you success in your quest
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