Quality20:
Capital no! poly graduates that many graduated thru bottom power or bribery is d one u want to equate to university graduates ?

University graduate nko ? Most of them graduated through bribery I can tell you that because I attended a public University , and some people just sort their way through and sleep with lecturers , it's the same frigging thing

HigherEd:
I say part privatisation might just be the way forward for Nigerian higher education.
ASUU has successfully depicted a grim picture of the public uni system. However, this rot isn't peculiar to Higher education.

Our healthcare system is rottened, our secondary schools are rottened, our physical infrastructure is rottened, our power sector is rottened, our security apparatus is rottened so it is impractical to have a sudden surge in budgetary allocation to universities without having negative impact across other sectors.

This is why ASUU must put on its thinking cap and seek for ways to partner with the private sector to generate funds. One of the beauty of university autonomy is that you must ensure your very own survival.

The average federal school is richer than the average private school yet the rot is more apparent at the federal level - this is because the vast majority of problems do not have funding at its core. Even if the problem is funding then respond by cutting enrollment down.

Example: If govt gives Unilorin funding that can adequately support 2,000 new students, Unilorin shouldn't admit 10,000 students. Only admit the number of students ur funding can support. It is not the business of a university to increase access for the Nigerian populace, let the Education ministry worry about that. If Education Ministry ask for higher enrollment, you should ask for higher funding.

One of the reasons why UI is highly rated is that it has a lower student enrolment than its counterpart. So Unilorin collects a little lower in FG allocation but has 150% more enrollment. UI while cutting enrollment for students did not cut staff size therefore govt is forced to pay more to UI than Unilorin which is twice bigger.

Caltech(USA) has just 3,000 students yet ranked top 10 Globally
Rice university(USA)has 3000 students yet ranked top 100 globally.
POSTECH(SKorea)admits 300 students yearly yet top 100 globally
Ecole Normale Superierue de cashan(France) has 1,631 students yet top 100 globally.



Well Lalasticlala this is a must for FP.

even if all listed are met NY fg d universities,will still produce half bake graduate due 2 it theory curriculum.d problem of our education system start 4rm d secondary sch.who use theory curriculum dt y most private uni nd secondary sch produce half bake graduates have u though why private student aren't superb in knowledge.the solution abolish secondary sch curriculum nd bring technical college 2 life because most western high sch are actuately technical college

Ogaonos:
even if all listed are met NY fg d universities,will still produce half bake graduate due 2 it theory curriculum.d problem of our education system start 4rm d secondary sch.who use theory curriculum dt y most private uni nd secondary sch produce half bake graduates have u though why private student aren't superb in knowledge.the solution abolish secondary sch curriculum nd bring technical college 2 life because most western high sch are actuately technical college

I get your point. But remove private schools from your statement. Graduates of Ambassador college or faith academy are not half baked.

If we are honest, is it the govt that will solve an issue like item 19?

The bitter truth is that free university education as we currently have it is not sustainable. Going to the university shouldn't really be a matter of natural progression as it is now.

ASUU no serious, fund university, fund university, as if na that be our problem for education sector, if they are reasonable educationist as claimed, they should profer solution to the sector as a whole and not just uni. We need to start with the basics (pry), address what we want from poly(vocational training or research), everything no be money money.

frankmoney:
Govt should make HND to be at par with Bsc or upgrade it to btech , then it will reduce the student population in the University , because one of the major issues with Nigeria public universities is overpopulation and limited resources

that had already been done

janvier27:
The bitter truth is that free university education as we currently have it is not sustainable. Going to the university shouldn't really be a matter of natural progression as it is now.

You are very wrong, stop following or reading about just USA.
Check the whole of Europe and see how very possible it is to have free education and make it work.
Our government internationally kill these sectors so they make us think it's not possible only to sell them to themselves.

The only solution to these whole issue is to create a total ban on private owned schools and see if these public schools wouldn't be fixed

lilmax:
and the students of these schools are fighting and arguing with those in private schools?

Who says private universities are better? Private universities can't keep hiding under the shadow of CU.

Firstandonly:
that had already been done

polytechnic now issue btech ?

Gr8amechi:

You are very wrong, stop following or reading about just USA.
Check the whole of Europe and see how very possible it is to have free education and make it work.
Our government internationally kill these sectors so they make us think it's not possible only to sell them to themselves.

The only solution to these whole issue is to create a total ban on private owned schools and see if these public schools wouldn't be fixed

free education is only possible in Europe because they have a tax system that works , check most of those countries that offer free education in Europe , thier cost of living is usually very high , Nigeria can barely maintain a subsidized educational system and you want it to be free . And banning private schools won't improve anything , the wealthy ones will just choose foreign schools

Earthbound:
The problem is so deeply rooted that it cannot be solved. This is why Nigeria is not called a Failing, but Failed state. Failure everywhere.

Who called Nigeria a failed state? You'd just see something on the internet and begin to peddle it without knowing its meaning.

Yet In This Situation, Some Will Still Support P M B Even When He As Confess That We Are Going To Next Level

writerights:


Who called Nigeria a failed state? You'd just see something on the internet and begin to peddle it without knowing its meaning.

You obviously know nothing about nothing

Gr8amechi:

You are very wrong, stop following or reading about just USA.
Check the whole of Europe and see how very possible it is to have free education and make it work.
Our government internationally kill these sectors so they make us think it's not possible only to sell them to themselves.

The only solution to these whole issue is to create a total ban on private owned schools and see if these public schools wouldn't be fixed

are you willing to pay 40% tax from a meagre 30k per month salary, mr man?. The American model is what is sustainable at this point. Forget the Finland model

frankmoney:
free education is only possible in Europe because they have a tax system that works , check most of those countries that offer free education in Europe , thier cost of living is usually very high , Nigeria can barely maintain a subsidized educational system and you want it to be free . And banning private schools won't improve anything , the wealthy ones will just choose foreign schools

You didn't get my point.
In Nigeria, the government internationally allow these infrastructure to die so they can create a means for them selves and their proxy to make a living.
Primary and secondary school started deteriorating when government started handling over licence to private investors.
Back in 70's and early 80's all rich kids attended public schools or missionary schools but what happened afterwards?
For the Europe you said don't you think we are just being penny wise and pound foolish?
We don't want to pay tax, we don't want to fund the government but we end up paying more for basic things.
Apart from education look at health care system in Europe, look at basic amenities like roads and rail line, in those countries they have toll for majority of roads this help them get proper findings for it.
Look at their healthcare system majority enjoy almost 80% universal health coverage but back here we keep trying to copy the USA but we don't have the basic foundations to do that.
It's not impossible to fix our educational system but until we hold these guys responsible and start seeing who our enemies really are there would be no head way.

Gr8amechi:

You are very wrong, stop following or reading about just USA.
Check the whole of Europe and see how very possible it is to have free education and make it work.
Our government internationally kill these sectors so they make us think it's not possible only to sell them to themselves.

The only solution to these whole issue is to create a total ban on private owned schools and see if these public schools wouldn't be fixed

For Europe to keep enjoying free education they keep a manageable population growth rate but here in Nigeria no one wants to talk about how a country with an estimated population of 45million+ in 1960 is now about 180million+ (with over 50% less than 30years - signifying active reproductive period) and will likely grow to 400million in 2050. We can't have it both ways if we want to have what Europe is enjoying now we must pay the sacrifice

Hmmmmm, more still needs to be done, even the present strike won't address all this issues

Earthbound:

You obviously know nothing about nothing

As expected, you resort to defend your ignorance. That's why you never learn anything.

ClintonNzedimma:

are you willing to pay 40% tax from a meagre 30k per month salary, mr man?. The American model is what is sustainable at this point. Forget the Finland model

We prefer to carry so much money with us and not interested in the value.
How about you pay 40% of that amount and you have free healthcare, free education, sure of security which will you prefer?
Taking 30k home without tax and paying for your healthcare, hope you know that if you have common appendicitis and need to have an appendectomy done for you that 30k will not be enough??

Also for your information 30k as salary wouldn't pay 40% as tax that's what nice about Europe your tax is proportional to what your annual salary is.

Gr8amechi:

We prefer to carry so much money with us and not interested in the value.
How about you pay 40% of that amount and you have free healthcare, free education, sure of security which will you prefer?
Taking 30k home without tax and paying for your healthcare, hope you know that if you have common appendicitis and need to have an appendectomy done for you that 30k will not be enough??

Also for your information 30k as salary wouldn't pay 40% as tax that's what nice about Europe your tax is proportional to what your annual salary is.

I agree, but in a nation like nigeria where corruption is normal, I don't trust fg with my money. I

ClintonNzedimma:

I agree, but in a nation like nigeria where corruption is normal, I don't trust fg with my money. I

The reason we all appear uninterested in government is because we have no commitment, if you know your hard earned money is part of what a government is lavishing no one would ask you to protest against harsh policies or evidence of embezzlement but since we have no real stake all we do is protect them is they are our tribe ANS criticize them if they are not.
That's our greatest undoing.

WillTop:


For Europe to keep enjoying free education they keep a manageable population growth rate but here in Nigeria no one wants to talk about how a country with an estimated population of 45million+ in 1960 is now about 180million+ (with over 50% less than 30years - signifying active reproductive period) and will likely grow to 400million in 2050. We can't have it both ways if we want to have what Europe is enjoying now we must pay the sacrifice

You said it all, but can I ask you whose duty is it to control her population and to have statistical data for future planning??
That's still the issue the government consecutively has failed totally in her responsibility

HigherEd:
I say part privatisation might just be the way forward for Nigerian higher education.
ASUU has successfully depicted a grim picture of the public uni system. However, this rot isn't peculiar to Higher education.

Our healthcare system is rottened, our secondary schools are rottened, our physical infrastructure is rottened, our power sector is rottened, our security apparatus is rottened so it is impractical to have a sudden surge in budgetary allocation to universities without having negative impact across other sectors.

This is why ASUU must put on its thinking cap and seek for ways to partner with the private sector to generate funds. One of the beauty of university autonomy is that you must ensure your very own survival.

The average federal school is richer than the average private school yet the rot is more apparent at the federal level - this is because the vast majority of problems do not have funding at its core. Even if the problem is funding then respond by cutting enrollment down.

Example: If govt gives Unilorin funding that can adequately support 2,000 new students, Unilorin shouldn't admit 10,000 students. Only admit the number of students ur funding can support. It is not the business of a university to increase access for the Nigerian populace, let the Education ministry worry about that. If Education Ministry ask for higher enrollment, you should ask for higher funding.

One of the reasons why UI is highly rated is that it has a lower student enrolment than its counterpart. So Unilorin collects a little lower in FG allocation but has 150% more enrollment. UI while cutting enrollment for students did not cut staff size therefore govt is forced to pay more to UI than Unilorin which is twice bigger.

Caltech(USA) has just 3,000 students yet ranked top 10 Globally
Rice university(USA)has 3000 students yet ranked top 100 globally.
POSTECH(SKorea)admits 300 students yearly yet top 100 globally
Ecole Normale Superierue de cashan(France) has 1,631 students yet top 100 globally.



Well Lalasticlala this is a must for FP.

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How much do lecturers earn in Naija?

Edit: I don't believe the strike is for the purpose of improving the conditions at the institutions, but rather for the upward review of their remuneration as usual.

Number 32 is a very big fat lie

All the facts listed here are not the reason for ASUU strike. ASUU never went on strike to improve the quality and accountability of education in tertiary institutions. They strike to improve their own remuneration!
ASUU was founded to represent the welfare of its members so let's stop lying on their behalf.

Imagine a state goverment lyk ondo state avin 4 state universities at dere disposal... Dis is d same goverment wu said dere is no money in d state acc 2 fund itx premier uni which is aaua.. Dat increased d skul fee 4rm 25k to 150k... Nw tel me a government dat cant fund itx premier uni.... Au wil it fund d remainin 3uni..... Itx unethical in al senses 2 av an individual whose asset isnt even up 2 500million founding a private university.......tel me au wil he/she fund d skul well.... Fed govt shud withdraw universities license 4rm d state govt..Nd start headin all public uni by itsef..budget allocated 2 dis government shud b cut.. So as 2 leav more moni 4rm d govt 2 fund dis universities.. Aldo dere shud b an agreement btw nuc nd private body 2 adequately fund d uni bfore bein given a license 2 open a uni... Failure 2 dat... License shud b withdraw.. I fink dat might partially solve d problem of uni fundin in d country

In situations like this,, what manner of men ought we to be??

HigherEd:
ASUU again

32. Kebbi State University of Science and Technology, Aliero, established in 2006 has only 2 Professors and 5 PhDs
RABUK (Rice And Beans University, Kebbi ) . . . Lol

Lyoncrescent:
The truth is this. Education is made up of three levels: primary, secondary and tertiary and of the three the worst is the public primary schools then the public secondary schools. It's amazing that even ASUU staff cannot send their children to public primary schools but can send their children to public universities. That's an inverted system. The government should intervene and properly fund the primary and secondary school system first . In Lagos , no one in the middle class or even lower class can send their children to public primary schools cos of the rot. Even most federal government colleges are living on past glory. Imagine in an ideal situation where I give birth to two children and I don't have to pay a Kobo in school fees from primary to secondary because the public schools are quality and standard compared to the current situation where I pay 300 thousand naira per year in a private primary school cos the public ones are rubbish only for the child to get to Unilag and be paying 30 thousand per year . Government should first of all fund heavily the primary and secondary before ASUU even says a word . Any parent that doesn't pay school fees for 12 years of primary and secondary school due to high quality of the public schools can be made to pay a premium for tertiary education not the other way around. I don't know any country in the world where public tertiary education is given a higher priority than quality public primary and secondary education. Every child needs primary and secondary to succeed. You don't necessarily need tertiary education especially University education to succeed in life .

These are the words of someone who really understands the system. I quite agree with you.