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Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by Splashme: 5:18pm On Nov 21, 2018
YOU CAN BE CORRUPT WITHOUT STEALING A DIME

Godluck Jonathan, former President, says it is possible for an individual to be corrupt without stealing a kobo.

Jonathan said this in his book, ‘My Transition Hours’, while trying to explain the difference between ‘corruption’ and ‘stealing’, which, according to him, led to “false claims” that he said “stealing is not corruption”.

“Immediately after the 2011 elections, my administration was repeatedly accused of being corrupt,” Jonathan said in the chapter 5 of the book, titled ‘Corruption And The Blame Game’.

“Despite the blackmail, I remained committed to combating corruption in a systemic way, knowing it was endemic. We vigorously devised and implemented a thorough and strategic plan to fight corruption, using technology, albeit within the context of the rule of law and due process.”

Jonathan went on to explain his ideas about corruption, but only after he had denied ever saying ‘stealing is not corruption’.

“Before I go deeper into this, let me address a false narrative my detractors have used to besmirch my name. They claim that I once said that ‘stealing is not corruption’. This is not true. Following the constant stigmatization of Nigerians as corrupt, I invited the leadership of the legislature and judiciary to a meeting.

“In attendance were the Senate President and his Deputy, Speaker of the House of Representative and his Deputy; the Chief Justice of Nigeria (CJN), the President of the Court of Appeal, the Chief Judge of the Federal High Court and six States’ Chief Judges from each of the six geopolitical zones. Also invited were heads of two anti-corruption agencies viz, the Chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) and Chairman of the Independent Corrupt Practice and Other related Offences Commission (ICPC). I presided over the meeting with the Vice President.

“My thinking was that the executive arm of government alone could not effectively eradicate the scourge of corruption, hence the need for that meeting. I personally appealed to them and argued that only an all-inclusive approach could bring about tangible successes in the anti- corruption fight. The judiciary, the legislative and the executive arms of government needed to join forces if were to end the theft of public resources and stop corruption.”

He explained that he proposed that those present at the meeting should work together to curb corruption; ensure that matters of corruption are treated in painstaking and timely manner when presented to the courts, otherwise there would be no effective results; to encourage the parliament to play a fundamental role in passing strong and effective law, as the judiciary can only do little when laws are weak.

“The then Chief Justice of Nigeria, Honourable Justice Dahiru Musdapher, in his contributions acknowledged that he was of the same opinion. He added that because of the perception of corruption in Nigeria he had to isolate all the case files before the Supreme Court having to do with corruption charges,” Jonathan continued on page 45 of the book.

“He said that after reading through those files, he discovered that more than 70% were not corruption cases, per se, but crimes of stealing. The individuals involved were however not charged to court for stealing but rather in preparing the case files, the prosecutors used the term ‘corruption’.

“It was on the strength of his submission that I expounded to say that we should stop calling a spade an agricultural implement. Corruption does not fully capture the act of stealing. A person can indeed be corrupt without stealing a dime. Those who are incapable of comprehending this elevated thought and the mischievous crowd go about claiming till date that I said ‘stealing is not corruption’. They never bothered to even check the context in which I spoke. If you ask many of those clinging to that falsehood and mouthing malicious misrepresentation, to quote where I said it, they will tell you ‘they only heard’.

“Let me categorically state that I never said stealing is good and that people should steal, neither did the CJN. Stealing is stealing and instead of calling it corruption, let us call the thief by his proper name and not use a blanket word like corruption.

“Corruption encompasses many things. According to Transparency International, corruption is defined as the ‘abuse of entrusted power for the private gain’. The Merriam Webster’s dictionary defines stealing as ‘to take without permission or legal right and without intending to return’. If a government minister upon a cabinet dissolution takes a vehicle that he is not entitled to and converts it to personal use, then that is stealing. We must not lump everything together to say stealing is corruption. We must isolate stealing and make it as plain as day because Nigerians hate thieves. I abhor jungle justice, but we have witnessed Nigerians show their hatred for suspected thieves by burning them alive.”

The perception of the Jonathan administration as corrupt played a big role in the victory of the then opposition party at the 2015 presidential election. But Jonathan insisted that this was not so, otherwise his administration would not have “supported the institutional development of secure systems and mechanisms to curb corruption in public service and plug revenue leakages”.

“My administration spearheaded the development of the Treasury Single Account (TSA), the Integrated Personnel and Payroll Information System (IPPIS) and the Bank verification Number (BVN)," he added.


http://saharareporters.com/2018/11/21/person-can-indeed-be-corrupt-without-stealing-dime-says-jonathan

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by MalcoImX: 5:23pm On Nov 21, 2018
Men, this dude had better leave this story o! We won't believe him, just as we won't believe the new definition of orphan they are now bandying around - not in Africa.

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by baliyubla: 5:25pm On Nov 21, 2018
Sensible Nigerians understood what you meant, but the Lagos Ibadan propaganda machinery suckered gullible Nigerians with their "stealing is not corruption" BS.

Now the desperate power seekers you talked about are not just corrupt, they are plain thieves, bigots and Jihadist.

Now the country might never recover from substituting you with the Lifeless Daura Dunce.

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by abc115: 5:26pm On Nov 21, 2018
Mr Jonathan... Stealing is Corruption.No wonder under you , the looting of treasury was taking to another height

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by Rickyzagy: 5:30pm On Nov 21, 2018
Eh
Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by Splashme: 5:31pm On Nov 21, 2018
abc115:
Mr Jonathan... Stealing is Corruption


Did you read the story?
Jonathan described your type as "those who are incapable of comprehending this elevated thought.."

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by Splashme: 5:34pm On Nov 21, 2018
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GEJ AND PMB FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION

GEJ:
My administration supported the institutional development of secure systems and mechanisms to curb corruption in public service and plug revenue leakages. We spearheaded the development of the:
1) Treasury Single Account (TSA),
2) Integrated Personnel and Payroll Information System (IPPIS)
3) Bank verification Number (BVN),"


PMB
Believes in arrest, detention, media trials yet no convictions

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by ExpiredNigeria: 5:36pm On Nov 21, 2018
Ok
Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by abc115: 5:39pm On Nov 21, 2018
Splashme:



Did you read the story?
Jonathan described your type as "those who are incapable of comprehending this elevated thought.."
The elevated thought is lacking in logical reasoning.Is stealing not dishonesty,fraud etc...so what is corruption...dishonesty, fraud..

1.You and Mr Jonathan should understand that Stealing is a subsect of Corruption.
2. Stealing = Dishonesty and Fraud
3.Dishonesty and Fraud= Corruption
4.Therefore 2=3
5. If 2 is equal to 3, hence Stealing=Corruption
6. In Conclusion,Stealing and Corruption: a distinction without difference

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by jchioma: 5:40pm On Nov 21, 2018
grin
Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by Born2Breed(f): 5:43pm On Nov 21, 2018
Splashme:



Did you read the story?
Jonathan described your type as "those who are incapable of comprehending this elevated thought.."

See finishing

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by zlantanfan: 5:43pm On Nov 21, 2018
This man is really pained about his defeat, since if it was now he wouldn't have conceded

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by buhariguy(m): 5:45pm On Nov 21, 2018
No way, ineffectual buffoon can not change the narrative,
Stealing is corruption and corruption is depriving a rightful owner of his right.
For instance,
You and ATM dasuki refuse to purchase arms for army, and in the process, boko haram seize 20 local government in NE,
The money was share for your election,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

The money budgeted for infrastructure like roads,bridge, and railway are always shared among your party stalwarts every DEC,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by TheFreeOne: 5:46pm On Nov 21, 2018
MalcoImX:
Men, this dude had better leave this story o! We won't believe him, just as we won't believe the new definition of orphan they are now bandying around - not in Africa.
abc115:
Mr Jonathan... Stealing is Corruption.No wonder under you , the looting of treasury was taking to another height

You guys are part of those who are incapable of comprehending this elevated thought and the mischievous crowd.

The Zombies and buharideens.

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by manuelzz(m): 5:51pm On Nov 21, 2018
abc115:
Mr Jonathan... Stealing is Corruption.No wonder under you , the looting of treasury was taking to another height

What is wrong with some people? Why are you so unteachable? Does it mean you didn't read what was written up there or you read it but couldn't comprehend it?


Wetin dey do una? undecided

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by AZeD1(m): 5:51pm On Nov 21, 2018
"If a government minister upon a cabinet dissolution takes a vehicle that he is not entitled to and converts it to personal use, then that is stealing. "
It can also be termed corruption because the Minister has abused the car that was entrusted to him as a minister for personal gain.


Corruption is a superset of stealing.

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by Splashme: 5:53pm On Nov 21, 2018
zlantanfan:
This man is really pained about his defeat, since if it was now he wouldn't have conceded


Little children everywhere on Nairaland.
Oga, Jonathan is not granting fresh interviews. He launched his book yesterday that detailed all that transpired during his tenure.
Journalists are now picking up excerpts for their reports

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by abc115: 5:55pm On Nov 21, 2018
manuelzz:


What is wrong with some people? Why are you so unteachable? Does it mean you didn't read what was written up there or you read it but couldn't comprehend it?


Wetin dey do una? undecided
The Teacher does know what he is teaching

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by DamiBukola: 6:10pm On Nov 21, 2018
abc115:
Mr Jonathan... Stealing is Corruption.No wonder under you , the looting of treasury was taking to another height
I don't know who is duller between you and Buhari. Jonathan government stole while Buhari's government is fantastically corrupt. Abuse of power, buying power bike for Yusuf Buhari, appointing just Daura people etcetera are the rudiments of corruption.

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by DamiBukola: 6:11pm On Nov 21, 2018
AZeD1:
"If a government minister upon a cabinet dissolution takes a vehicle that he is not entitled to and converts it to personal use, then that is stealing. "
It can also be termed corruption because the Minister has abused the car that was entrusted to him as a minister for personal gain.


Corruption is a superset of stealing.
you lie

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by DamiBukola: 6:13pm On Nov 21, 2018
abc115:

The elevated thought is lacking in logical reasoning.Is stealing not dishonesty,fraud etc...so what is corruption...dishonesty, fraud..

1.You and Mr Jonathan so understand that Stealing is a subsect of Corruption.
2. Stealing = Dishonesty and Fraud
3.Dishonesty and Fraud= Corruption
4.Therefore 2=3
5. If 2 is equal to 3, hence Stealing=Corruption
6. In Conclusion,Stealing and Corruption is a distinction without difference
"obori", did you see stealing as example of corruption from what you posted up there?

Empty....

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by buhariguy(m): 6:17pm On Nov 21, 2018
TheFreeOne:



You guys are part of those who are incapable of comprehending this elevated thought and the mischievous crowd.

The Zombies and buharideens.
buhariguy:
No way, ineffectual buffoon can not change the narrative,
Stealing is corruption and corruption is depriving a rightful owner of his right.
For instance,
You and ATM dasuki refuse to purchase arms for army, and in the process, boko haram seize 20 local in NE,
The money was share for your election,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

The money budgeted for infrastructure like roads,bridge, and railway are always shared among your party stalwarts every DEC,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by bilulu(m): 6:18pm On Nov 21, 2018
MalcoImX:
Men, this dude had better leave this story o! We won't believe him, just as we won't believe the new definition of orphan they are now bandying around - not in Africa.
why not check d meaning of orphan from ur google... he just explain d context he used dat statement but cuz of hate u choose to wallow in illiteracy.

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by Sirjamo: 6:19pm On Nov 21, 2018
Tales by moonlight

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by buhariguy(m): 6:20pm On Nov 21, 2018
manuelzz:


What is wrong with some people? Why are you so unteachable? Does it mean you didn't read what was written up there or you read it but couldn't comprehend it?


Wetin dey do una? undecided
buhariguy:
No way, ineffectual buffoon can not change the narrative,
Stealing is corruption and corruption is depriving a rightful owner of his right.
For instance,
You and ATM dasuki refuse to purchase arms for army, and in the process, boko haram seize 20 local in NE,
The money was share for your election,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

The money budgeted for infrastructure like roads,bridge, and railway are always shared among your party stalwarts every DEC,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by GavelSlam: 6:22pm On Nov 21, 2018
bilulu:

why not check d meaning of orphan from ur google... he just explain d context he used dat statement but cuz of hate u choose to wallow in illiteracy.
Ok

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by bilulu(m): 6:22pm On Nov 21, 2018
MalcoImX:
Men, this dude had better leave this story o! We won't believe him, just as we won't believe the new definition of orphan they are now bandying around - not in Africa.
ur statement shows how shallow minded u n most Nigerians re.... we tend to believe Wat we hear first. with his explanation u can't still understand wat he meant reason u re were u re now.... can u also google or check ur dictionary the meaning of orphan before displaying ur stupidity

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by buhariguy(m): 6:23pm On Nov 21, 2018
bilulu:

why not check d meaning of orphan from ur google... he just explain d context he used dat statement but cuz of hate u choose to wallow in illiteracy.
buhariguy:
No way, ineffectual buffoon can not change the narrative,
Stealing is corruption and corruption is depriving a rightful owner of his right.
For instance,
You and ATM dasuki refuse to purchase arms for army, and in the process, boko haram seize 20 local in NE,
The money was share for your election,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

The money budgeted for infrastructure like roads,bridge, and railway are always shared among your party stalwarts every DEC,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by buhariguy(m): 6:29pm On Nov 21, 2018
Splashme:
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GEJ AND PMB FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION

GEJ:
My administration supported the institutional development of secure systems and mechanisms to curb corruption in public service and plug revenue leakages. We spearheaded the development of the:
1) Treasury Single Account (TSA),
2) Integrated Personnel and Payroll Information System (IPPIS)
3) Bank verification Number (BVN),"


PMB
Believes in arrest, detention, media trials yet no convictions
buhariguy:
No way, ineffectual buffoon can not change the narrative,
Stealing is corruption and corruption is depriving a rightful owner of his right.
For instance,
You and ATM dasuki refuse to purchase arms for army, and in the process, boko haram seize 20 local in NE,
The money was share for your election,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

The money budgeted for infrastructure like roads,bridge, and railway are always shared among your party stalwarts every DEC,
Is that not stealing and corruption?

Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by Splashme: 7:17pm On Nov 21, 2018
bilulu:

ur statement shows how shallow minded u n most Nigerians re.... we tend to believe Wat we hear first. with his explanation u can't still understand wat he meant reason u re were u re now.... can u also google or check ur dictionary the meaning of orphan before displaying ur stupidity


I wonder oo

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by DonHummer(m): 7:53pm On Nov 21, 2018
It would have been better if he had said
"corruption is not just stealing".
In this life eh, we have to choose our words carefully cause a lot of people are waiting for you to mis yarn

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Re: Stealing Not Same As Corruption. - GEJ explains by Afamed: 7:59pm On Nov 21, 2018
Only God knows who awarded GEJ with PhD without thesis. The Otuoke has been trying hard to re - write history

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