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Question


I have questions specifically for our noble shaykh saleh munajjid (may allah preserve him) about his book \"forbidden\" in the english print, specifically the chapter: using silver and gold containers / vessels / utensils and eating and drinking out of them:
1) what kitchen utensils are permissible to use?
2) are stainless steel utensils permissible?
3) are there any other scholars, besides you, o noble shaykh, who have agreed with you have said. (this was a question from friends of mine who read the chapter with me)
4) does the threat count towards women as well?
5) can i take pictures of pages from your book and send it to my friend & and family? and photocopy / print some of your pages?
6) if someone questions your authority and i tell them you are the chief director of islam.qa is this ok with you?
7) i have told some of my friends that you were shaykh ibn baaz\'s student without your consent and without any knowledge if you were even his student. can you please, o noble shaykh forgive me for this, as well as asking you many questions?

Lesson from his question: student of knowledge, when asking scholars question, should ask with respect and Adab. A responsible and cool-headed students are known through their questions. Let us learn from this questionner

Answer

Praise be to Allah.

It is not permissible to use vessels of gold and silver for eating and drinking, because of the report narrated by al-Bukhaari (5633) and Muslim (2067) from Hudhayfah, that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Do not drink from vessels of gold and silver, and do not wear silk and brocade; they are for them in this world and for you in the hereafter.”

And al-Bukhaari (5634) and Muslim (2065) narrated from Umm Salamah, the wife of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The one who drinks from a vessel of silver is gulping the fire of Hell into his belly.”

This includes all kinds of vessels and utensils, such as spoons, cups, plates and so on.

So, with regard to any vessel that is used for eating and drinking, it is not permissible for it to be made of gold or silver, or to be plated with those metals. This is a ruling on which there is scholarly consensus.

Ibn al-Qattaan (may Allah have mercy on him) said in al-Iqnaa‘ fi Masaa’il al-Ijmaa‘ (1/326): The scholars are unanimously agreed that it is not permissible for a Muslim to eat or drink from vessels of gold and silver. End quote.

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Our companions said: The ummah is unanimously agreed on the prohibition of eating and drinking, or making other uses, of vessels of gold and silver, except what was narrated from Daawood (i.e., that drinking from them is prohibited, but not eating), and the former view of ash-Shaafa‘i.

And because if drinking (from such vessels) is forbidden, then it is more appropriate that the prohibition also apply to eating…

… Our companions and other scholars said: The prohibition on using vessels of gold and silver applies equally to both men and women, and there is no difference of opinion concerning this, because of the general meaning of the hadith and the inclusive nature of the reason for which they are forbidden.

The differentiation between men and women only applies to using these metals for jewellery, because of the purpose for which women wear jewellery, which is to adorn and beautify themselves for their husbands.

End quote from al-Majmoo‘ (1/248).

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said: There is no difference of opinion among our companions concerning the fact that using vessels of gold and silver is haraam. This is the view of Abu Haneefah, Maalik and ash-Shaafa‘i, and I do not know of any difference of opinion concerning that. End quote from al-Mughni (1/55).

Secondly:

An exception to that ruling is made if a permissible vessel, made of wood or iron, is broken; it is permissible to mend the break with a small amount of silver, because of the report narrated by al-Bukhaari (3109) from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allah be pleased with him), that when the cup of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) got cracked, he fixed it with a silver wire.

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: Patching with silver is permissible subject to three conditions: firstly, that it be a small amount; secondly that it should be of silver, for gold is not permissible, and a small or large amount of it is haraam… the third condition is that it should be done for a reason, meaning that the person makes it for a purpose, such as filling a crack in a vessel, even if some other metal could be used for the same purpose.

Among the scholars who granted a concession with regard to patching with silver were: Sa‘eed ibn Jubayr, Maysarah, Zaadhaan, Taawoos, ash-Shaafa‘i, Abu Thawr, Ibn al-Mundhir, ashaab ar-ra’y, and Ishaaq.

End quote from al-Mughni (9/174).

Thirdly:

There was a difference of opinion among the fuqahaa’ regarding the use of vessels of gold and silver for purposes other than eating or drinking, such as incense burners, kohl sticks, knives and so on.

The majority of the four madhhabs are of the view that this is haraam.

With regard to (using vessels of gold and silver) for eating and drinking, there is no difference of scholarly opinion concerning that, and the prohibition applies equally to women and men, as quoted above from an-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him).

Fourthly:

There is nothing wrong with using kitchen utensils made of steel, copper, wood, glass or other materials, apart from gold and silver, based on what we have explained above.

Jazaak Allaahu khayran!

In Islam, we follow the text as it was practiced by the companions of Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wasalam).

We hear and we obey!

May the peace & blessings of As-Salaam be upon all those who follow the teachings of Ahmad till the end of time!

Aamin!

wetin concern me....I dey use hand sef ...back of phone lolz

Rashduct4luv:
Jazaak Allaahu khayran!

In Islam, we follow the text as it was practiced by the companions of Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wasalam).

We hear and we obey!

May the peace & blessings of As-Salaam be upon all those who follow the teachings of Ahmad till the end of time!

Aamin!

Aamin

oluwaseyi000:

Muslims have very big issue

Ordinary utensils spoon, plate and fork turn to issue then later haram and then fight/war

Won't be surprise to hear woman beheaded in Saudi for using gold plated spoon

And how is that your business?
Are you a Muslim

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No wonder i see alfas using clay pot to eat like babalawo.

Stop saying what you have no knowledge of

theapeman4:
why is everything in Islam haram except sleeping with 13yrs old female child?

oluwaseyi000:



And how is that your business?

Or don't i have freedom of expression in my country?


Or when you people start killing like your boko haram in the north east, won't we all be affected as money meant for national development will be spent on senseless terrorism war

And the refugees you people produce will all run to western state and peaceful country

Shame on you

how many of ur family member killed by Muslim in ur neighbourhood ? If no. Just sdf n face front !!

I don't have anything to say on this........

What the Fvck!! is this? SMH!!

What as dis thread got to with Christian, y storm here to show ur ignorance. When u post ur shit on Sunday, I read through comment and stay out of it whether I understand it or if it sound absurd or ridiculous... So y ar u guys always like dis

oluwaseyi000:

Muslims have very big issue

Ordinary utensils spoon, plate and fork turn to issue then later haram and then fight/war

Won't be surprise to hear woman beheaded in Saudi for using gold plated spoon

It's good to always mind own business. This doesn't concern you in anyway. You think U're created for fun and play. Islam is all about rules and instructions from the Supreme being, Allah. He sent forth guidance which we must follow. Follow it so as to be saved from His torment on the last day or keep ranting and be welcome by Angel Maalik at the Hell gate. The choice is yours. This religion is absolutely not compulsory. Shikenah.

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baarak66:


It's good to always mind own business. This doesn't concern you in anyway. You think U're created for fun and play. Islam is all about rules and instructions from the Supreme being, Allah. He sent forth guidance which we must follow. Follow it so as to be saved from His torment on the last day or keep ranting and be welcome by Angel Maalik at the Hell gate. The choice is yours. This religion is absolutely not compulsory. Shikenah.

And how is that your business?

Or don't i have freedom of expression in my country?


Or when you people start killing like your boko haram in the north east, won't we all be affected as money meant for national development will be spent on senseless terrorism war

And the refugees you people produce will all run to western state and peaceful country

Shame on you

oluwaseyi000:


And how is that your business?

Or don't i have freedom of expression in my country?


Or when you people start killing like your boko haram in the north east, won't we all be affected as money meant for national development will be spent on senseless terrorism war

And the refugees you people produce will all run to western state and peaceful country

Shame on you

If the way they kill and bomb people all around is actually in Islam... Do you think you'll still be alive now.. U'll be dead for long cos every single one of us would be carrying bombs all around looking forwad for the 72 virgins reward they claimed, which all is just blatant lies. You should know that. Alright.

sarahade:

No wonder i see alfas using clay pot to eat like babalawo.

There is nothing bad in this actually.

Food cooked in clay pots taste great and are healthy for humans. These are the old things we let go in modern time of ours.

Not everything that doesn't for your mental faculty is wrong. Remember back in the days "agbó" that was prepared in clay pots worked faster than prepared agbó in modern pots. Some people wonder why they drink agbó for their malaria but malaria doesn't go away?. This is because we have abandoned the old way. That's, we have let go of our fitra.

So these ahadith quoted by op are credible but what op didn't elaborate reason(s) for forbiddance of gold plated utensils. He's probably not aware where he copied the text from. So bottom line is that, wisdom around this is for our medical benefits. Food may react to gold plated utensils and this may cause serious health problems. Sometimes there are no "village people following" you if you fall sick. You are the one "following" yourself.

We can always submit to the text but we should also endeavor to explain why these things are forbidden if we have credible explanation or negative effects of using these things proven scientifically.


Hudhaifah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:



The Prophet( :saw: ) prohibited us from wearing brocade or silk and drinking out of gold or silver vessels and said, "These are meant for them (disbelievers) in this world and for you in the Hereafter.'' [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].



See this Hadith above kind of put things into perspective. It means that there must be danger to our health medically was the reason it was forbidden. Just like wine. Wine is forbidden for muslims but unbelievers may do as they wish with it. And QUR'AN teaches us there is great harm in it. But at the same time, wine is made halal for us in the Hereafter if you can wait and avoid it's consumption here on Earth.

Obviously, wine in the Hereafter is not like Earthly wine because we will not be drunk up there, which means wine in the Hereafter has no negative health effect attached. The same is true of gold plated utensils.


It makes good sense to forbid the use of gold, silver utensils. If you used them for water or worse, more acidic drinks you ran the risk of leeching out the lead and poisoning yourself. Lead poisoning is dangerous thing especially for kids. Also you need to note that Silver utensils are divided into at least four categories. Some are permmisibile. Op's text barely tried to break it down for clarity. That's why I believe some people resent his post. Original author probably doesn't have detailed explanation handy.



There are other brands that are halal like brassware.


`Abdullah bin Zaid (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:


The Prophet ( :saw: ) visited us and we brought water for him in a brass vessel for his ablution and he performed ablution. [Al-Bukhari].


This Hadith tells us that brassware can be used for performing ablution as well as for other purposes.

Religion makes things complicated for living.

Some rules and practice are meaningless and irrelevant.

It begs the question of why God is giving these rules when he's perfect.