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Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by MuttleyLaff: 7:59pm On Dec 03, 2018
vaxx:
Too much of anything, be it credulity or skepticism, is a bad thing. Too much skepticism becomes denialism and paranoia. The memes are exactly what memes almost always are, a simplification, and in this case, an oversimplification, of a more complex question.
What is the complex question?
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by vaxx: 8:10pm On Dec 03, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
What is the complex question?
in all honesty, the existence of God is a complex topic.. self evident for some of us who accept it by faith. More complex for those of us who demand an explanation .

There is False equivalency between the two meme subjects you posted and between those subjects and rejection of god.

United States laws have an adversarial form of legal representation. That is, the lawyers on each side of an issue oppose one another, and with the sole purpose of winning the case, despite justice or even evidence. The object is to convince a jury of 12 untrained people who are unable to avoid jury duty that the chosen reality is correct, and each side can manipulate any and all evidence to win. Therefore, whether you're innocent or guilty, the cunning of your legal team will determine whether you go to prison.

Holocaust deniers are dishonestly blind to facts because of their skewed mind set.The evidence exists and can't be invalidated , but some flaw of reasoning, typically emotional responses overcoming the intellect, or the result of indoctrination, often from birth, is blocking their self sustainable evidence.

Atheism are demanding for emperical demonstration of God.

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Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by LordReed(m): 8:24pm On Dec 03, 2018
vaxx:
in all honesty, the existence of God is a complex topic.. self evident for some of us who accept it by faith. More complex for those of us who demand an explanation .

There is False equivalency between the two meme subjects you posted and between those subjects and rejection of god.

United States laws have an adversarial form of legal representation. That is, the lawyers on each side of an issue oppose one another, and with the sole purpose of winning the case, despite justice or even evidence. The object is to convince a jury of 12 untrained people who are unable to avoid jury duty that the chosen reality is correct, and each side can manipulate any and all evidence to win. Therefore, whether you're innocent or guilty, the cunning of your legal team will determine whether you go to prison.

Holocaust deniers are dishonestly blind to facts because of their skewed mind set.The evidence exists and can't be invalidated , but some flaw of reasoning, typically emotional responses overcoming the intellect, or the result of indoctrination, often from birth, is blocking their self sustainable evidence.

Atheism are demanding for emperical demonstration of God.



Nicely put.

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Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by MuttleyLaff: 8:29pm On Dec 03, 2018
vaxx:
in all honesty, the existence of God is a complex topic.. self evident for some of us who accept it by faith. More complex for those of us who demand an explanation.
I quite agree with this remark and agreed without demur

vaxx:
There is False equivalency between the two meme subjects you posted and between those subjects and rejection of god.

United States laws have an adversarial form of legal representation. That is, the lawyers on each side of an issue oppose one another, and with the sole purpose of winning the case, despite justice or even evidence. The object is to convince a jury of 12 untrained people who are unable to avoid jury duty that the chosen reality is correct, and each side can manipulate any and all evidence to win. Therefore, whether you're innocent or guilty, the cunning of your legal team will determine whether you go to prison.

Holocaust deniers are dishonestly blind to facts because of their skewed mind set.The evidence exists and can't be invalidated , but some flaw of reasoning, typically emotional responses overcoming the intellect, or the result of indoctrination, often from birth, is blocking their own evidence.

Atheism are demanding for emperical demonstration of God.
In all honesty vaxx, what feature do both memes, have in common?

Inspite of ample and overwhelming evidences, it is laughable that atheism is still demanding for empirical demonstration of God
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by JeromeBlack: 8:56pm On Dec 03, 2018
vaxx:
Too much of anything, be it credulity or skepticism, is a bad thing. Too much skepticism becomes denialism and paranoia. The memes are exactly what memes almost always are, a simplification, and in this case, an oversimplification, of a more complex question.

Well said

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Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by vaxx: 9:01pm On Dec 03, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
I quite agree with this remark and agreed without demur

In all honesty vaxx, what feature do both memes, have in common?

Inspite of ample and overwhelming evidences, it is laughable that atheism is still demanding for empirical demonstration of God
That is why i said too much of anything, be it credulity or skepticism, is a bad thing. As it leads to denialism and paranoia

Emperical demonstration is not the only method of truth seeking , there is also a rules based system which proceeds from step to step to a solution.
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by MuttleyLaff: 9:32pm On Dec 03, 2018
vaxx:
That is why i said too much of anything, be it credulity or skepticism, is a bad thing. As it leads to denialism and paranoia

Emperical demonstration is not the only method of truth seeking , there is also a rules based system which proceeds from step to step to a solution.
We know that and all
but I repeat, in all honesty vaxx, what feature(s) does the OJ Simpson and Holocaust memes, have in common?
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by vaxx: 9:36pm On Dec 03, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
We know that and all
but I repeat, in all honesty vaxx, what feature(s) does the OJ Simpson and Holocaust memes, have in common?
in both cases - O J Simpson and the Holocaust - there is definite physical, photographic and eyewitness evidence. Evidence of empirical demonstration are all what they have in common.

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Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by MuttleyLaff: 9:43pm On Dec 03, 2018
vaxx:
in both cases - O J Simpson and the Holocaust - there is definite physical, photographic and eyewitness evidence. Evidence of empirical demonstration are all what they have in common.
Thank you.
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by JeromeBlack: 3:36am On Dec 04, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
We know that and all
but I repeat, in all honesty vaxx, what feature(s) does the OJ Simpson and Holocaust memes, have in common?
vaxx:
in both cases - O J Simpson and the Holocaust - there is definite physical, photographic and eyewitness evidence. Evidence of empirical demonstration are all what they have in common.
MuttleyLaff:
Thank you.

And the point that Muttleylaff is missing is that the OJ Simpson case has nothing to do with skepticism. OJ Simpson escaped with murder because there was a rule based system which the prosecutors failed to follow properly (even though they had the evidence).

The court is not solely based on skepticism. If you have evidence against someone but obtained it illegally, the court will throw away the evidence.
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Muttleylaff, it is high time you learn to follow logic and learn to discuss with people. Both christians and atheists have been pointing out the same issue to you but you remain stubborn. Better grow up.
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by MuttleyLaff: 7:45am On Dec 04, 2018
JeromeBlack:
And the point that Muttleylaff is missing is that the OJ Simpson case has nothing to do with skepticism.
OJ Simpson escaped with murder because there was a rule based system which the prosecutors failed to follow properly (even though they had the evidence).

The court is not solely based on skepticism.
If you have evidence against someone but obtained it illegally, the court will throw away the evidence.
JeromeBlack, the point has always been about the OJ Simpson and Holocaust overwhelming evidences

I am glad you admitted that OJ Simpson escaped with murder charge.
Whether it was obtained it illegally or not, the fact remained that overwhelming evidences points at him

JeromeBlack:
Muttleylaff, it is high time you learn to follow logic and learn to discuss with people
JeromeBlack it is high time you learn that no amount of presentations of God overwhelming evidences makes any difference to the stubborn

JeromeBlack:
Both christians and atheists have been pointing out the same issue to you but you remain stubborn
Remind me to get you a solidarity mug

JeromeBlack:
Better grow up.
Better grow out from your logic of ignorance
and grow up some good old fashion faith to know and accept that the existence of God is undeniable
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by Ihedinobi3: 9:25am On Dec 04, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Have yourself a blessed, good and brilliant week.
You too, dear brother. Have a blessed one as well.
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by Originakalokalo(m): 3:19pm On Dec 10, 2018
God is real, able and powerful.

My belief.

Live with yours if you don't want to accept mine.

My cross ,your cross.
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by Nobody: 3:46pm On Dec 10, 2018
tintingz:
If you can show image of the marks.

It can be some kind of an infection and what I listed above.

There are some infections when one scratches the body it gives a reddish line mark.

The bed sheet ones sleeps on can cause marks.

There is something called Dermatographia.
This Is exactly what the bible says about people like you. Your explanations have no basis, yet you're using them as excuses just because you do not want to believe. Well, that's your problem.
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by tintingz(m): 7:25pm On Dec 10, 2018
Jayhazard:

This Is exactly what the bible says about people like you. Your explanations have no basis, yet you're using them as excuses just because you do not want to believe. Well, that's your problem.
Can I a doctor diagnose a condition without examine it?
Re: Atheism Will Be Baseless If These Can Be Proven by Originakalokalo(m): 8:03am On Jan 07, 2019
Philip disappeared in the Bible after preaching to the Eunuch.

Jesus disappeared with his twelve disciples.

There are cases in this physical world where people disappeared.

There is a spiritual world

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