| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Emytexboy(m): 10:13am On Dec 02, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
I came across a thread on Nairaland where people debated the case of hellfire. Many wondered why God will send a liar or a pencil thief to the same fiery furnace as a mass murderer like Osama Bin Laden. To them, this is unfair and doesn't show God to be a just God. They say earthly judges don't even do such because they give sentences according to the degree of offence. They say "how come a loving God can't do the same but lumps every sinner with the same punishment?".
What do we know as sin? Lying, stealing, formication, adultery, murder etc. But do you know that those sins are not what actually send people to hell fire? If they are what send people to hell fire, then all humanity will end up there. But you say "what about the Christians?". They will end up there as well because they also commit the same sins.
Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 3:10 - As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Can anyone show me that Christian who hasn't committed sin in the past one week? You can never find such a person, only a liar who thinks he's perfect. Now, since we are all sinners and are deserving of hell fire, why do Christians say they won't end up there but will be in heaven? Aren't we all committing the same sins?
As Christians, we have been made righteous by one man, the man Jesus Christ. That man has saved us from our unrighteousness and has taken upon himself our sins.
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
The simple thing we did to receive this free gift of salvation unto eternal life was our believe in Jesus Christ who was given by God to save mankind from their sins
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Mathew 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
That single act of us believing in his word has kept us away from the condemnation of hell fire. We have eternal life because of Jesus Christ.
John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
We became sons of God because we believed in his name. And as sons of God, our Father's home in heaven is our home.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Yes, we may sin from time to time because we are in the flesh which is weak, but our spirit is saved for all eternity. Those sins cannot make us condemned or sent to hell fire, because Jesus said nothing can ever make him cast out all those who have come to him.
John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Nothing can make us lose that salvation. Nothing we do can ever separate us from God. Even if we want to leave God, he will not allow us to go because he's a mighty saviour. He is not like earthly Banks were whatever is saved can still get stolen or missing. Even thieves can hack banks and still your money. With God, you are totally safe and nothing, not even sin can pluck you out of his hands.
John 10:27-30
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
Verse 29 says no man is able to pluck anyone Jesus saves out of his hand. This means you are forever saved and can't pluck yourself out no matter what you do. He's stronger than you.
You might say "does that mean I can go about sinning anyhow I like because heaven is guaranteed?" You can only go about sinning if you want to keep getting chastised and scourged by God. Remember he loves you because Jesus has given you the power to be his son.
Hebrews 12:6-11
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
No matter how much God chastise and scourges you on earth, your salvation forever remains secured. Heaven is certain for you because Jesus already saved you. Can we all see how easy it is to receive Jesus? Isn't this the Good News we haven't heard in a while, that no matter what, we will make heaven if only we believe in Jesus Christ? Believe in Jesus is as simple as drinking a glass of water. It is as simple as smiling and having fun. Why would anyone now think it is difficult to the point that he now embraces the torment of hell fire for all eternity? Don't you know that rejection of Jesus Christ means condemnation for all eternity in the fiery furnace?
John 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Now, some people might want to play smart by saying they believe in Jesus. But do they know what believe in Jesus entails? They think believing in Jesus which gets you to heaven also entails their own personal works of righteousness. That's why they are led astray by the false gospel that says once you've accepted Jesus Christ, you have to keep going to church, stop smoking, avoid fornication and adultery etc. Don't get me wrong, these things are good but are not what get you to heaven. They don't even play an inch because Jesus Christ paid it all, he did it all on the across all by himself. Moreover, our works of righteousness are filthy rags before God.
Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing , and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags
Don't tell me you are banking on filthy rags to get you to heaven, a holy and clean place where God lives. Relying on your works makes you no different from the people that built the Tower of Babel. They thought their handwork could get them to heaven, that's why they built the Tower in an attempt to reach heaven. You are also no different from Cain who relied on his work of tilling the soil to produce what he will sacrifice to God, unlike his brother Abel who relied on the blood of the lamb alone, which is a representation of Jesus Christ. Mixing your works of righteousness with believe in Jesus also makes you no different from a Muslim who will say he also believes on Jesus, yet he mixes it with Islam.
Jesus paid it all and to him we owe it all. He gave us the gift of eternal life in salvation. It is nothing we ever did but simple believe in him.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Verse 9 says works doesn't save us. This means if you do all manner of good works without having faith in Jesus, you will still end up in hell fire. Otherwise, Rich men will be able to buy their way into heaven. All they just have to do is use their money for charity works like Bill Gates does. Your works don't get you into heaven, Jesus does. Not that works are not good, but works without faith in Jesus is dead works. If you have faith in Jesus and do good works, you will be rewarded here on Earth and also in heaven.
If you don't do works at all, you will still make heaven as long as you hold faith in Jesus Christ which is in itself righteousness.
Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Friends, the horror of hell fire is real. Don't let anyone deceive you. I was deceived by Jehovah's Witnesses that hell fire doesn't exist. I held that false believe for years until I got saved and my eyes became open to the truth. If hell fire is not real, then what is Jesus saving you from? As seen above, it is easy to accept Jesus and live with him. Please do that now to secure your eternity. May God touch your heart. Amen.
IG: InstaAlbhagdadi we all have been called into the Royal priest hood of our Lord Jesus Christ if we have been wholly sanctified, all that left for we all both leaders and followers is to watch, and see that we're always free from these>>>Revelation 21 [8]“But cowards, unbelievers, the corrupt, murderers, the immoral, those who practice witchcraft, idol worshipers, and all liars—their fate is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” God bless you 1 Like |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by kuffy05(m): 10:13am On Dec 02, 2018 |
Thank you |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by 1zynnvn(m): 10:16am On Dec 02, 2018 |
tstx:
Don't deceive yourself bro.... Purgatory exists for a reason... You that stole from your moms purse wont spend eternity in hell with Abubakar shekau or hitler..,pray for enlightenment. What if Hitler or shekau repented 2mins b4 death, they'll go to heaven right  2mins of repentance wipes away years of inhumane acts but God is so just. But me a Christian from birth, does good all my life, one day I doubt, maybe there is no God, I die and straight to hell 1 Like |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Ruddyman(m): 10:18am On Dec 02, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
You just showed you are not saved, and that's why you do t understand what salvation is. To you it can be lost when you sin, but when you confess, you be one saved again. This means that you can keep going back and forth from salvation, which is wrong. Salvation is a one time thing which you cannot lose because you are not the o e that saved yourself, Jesus did. Saying you can lose your salvation is the same as saying Jesus is not a perfect saviour because he loses everything he saves, which is wrong. He already promised that he will Not cast out whoever comes his way. He also said no one can pluck his sheepnoutnof his father's hand, not even yourself.
John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Nothing can make us lose that salvation. Nothing we do can ever separate us from God. Even if we want to leave God, he will not allow us to go because he's a mighty saviour. He is not like earthly Banks were whatever is saved can still get stolen or missing. Even thieves can hack banks and still your money. With God, you are totally safe and nothing, not even sin can pluck you out of his hands.
John 10:27-30
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
Yes, God wants us to be Holy just as he is Holy, but do you really think we can be that holy? No, we can't achieve that on ournown. But yes, we can with Jesus because he made us righteous.
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. How you make conclusions on whether I'm saved or Not? One can lose his or her salvation .....Salvation is not a license to go off doing anything you like while it waits for you......to come back and wear it again like a clothe.... Thank you... 2 Likes |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by nwanyionitsha: 10:18am On Dec 02, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
I came across a thread on Nairaland where people debated the case of hellfire. Many wondered why God will send a liar or a pencil thief to the same fiery furnace as a mass murderer like Osama Bin Laden. To them, this is unfair and doesn't show God to be a just God. They say earthly judges don't even do such because they give sentences according to the degree of offence. They say "how come a loving God can't do the same but lumps every sinner with the same punishment?".
What do we know as sin? Lying, stealing, formication, adultery, murder etc. But do you know that those sins are not what actually send people to hell fire? If they are what send people to hell fire, then all humanity will end up there. But you say "what about the Christians?". They will end up there as well because they also commit the same sins.
Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 3:10 - As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Can anyone show me that Christian who hasn't committed sin in the past one week? You can never find such a person, only a liar who thinks he's perfect. Now, since we are all sinners and are deserving of hell fire, why do Christians say they won't end up there but will be in heaven? Aren't we all committing the same sins?
As Christians, we have been made righteous by one man, the man Jesus Christ. That man has saved us from our unrighteousness and has taken upon himself our sins.
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
The simple thing we did to receive this free gift of salvation unto eternal life was our believe in Jesus Christ who was given by God to save mankind from their sins
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Mathew 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
That single act of us believing in his word has kept us away from the condemnation of hell fire. We have eternal life because of Jesus Christ.
John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
We became sons of God because we believed in his name. And as sons of God, our Father's home in heaven is our home.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Yes, we may sin from time to time because we are in the flesh which is weak, but our spirit is saved for all eternity. Those sins cannot make us condemned or sent to hell fire, because Jesus said nothing can ever make him cast out all those who have come to him.
John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Nothing can make us lose that salvation. Nothing we do can ever separate us from God. Even if we want to leave God, he will not allow us to go because he's a mighty saviour. He is not like earthly Banks were whatever is saved can still get stolen or missing. Even thieves can hack banks and still your money. With God, you are totally safe and nothing, not even sin can pluck you out of his hands.
John 10:27-30
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
Verse 29 says no man is able to pluck anyone Jesus saves out of his hand. This means you are forever saved and can't pluck yourself out no matter what you do. He's stronger than you.
You might say "does that mean I can go about sinning anyhow I like because heaven is guaranteed?" You can only go about sinning if you want to keep getting chastised and scourged by God. Remember he loves you because Jesus has given you the power to be his son.
Hebrews 12:6-11
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
No matter how much God chastise and scourges you on earth, your salvation forever remains secured. Heaven is certain for you because Jesus already saved you. Can we all see how easy it is to receive Jesus? Isn't this the Good News we haven't heard in a while, that no matter what, we will make heaven if only we believe in Jesus Christ? Believe in Jesus is as simple as drinking a glass of water. It is as simple as smiling and having fun. Why would anyone now think it is difficult to the point that he now embraces the torment of hell fire for all eternity? Don't you know that rejection of Jesus Christ means condemnation for all eternity in the fiery furnace?
John 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Now, some people might want to play smart by saying they believe in Jesus. But do they know what believe in Jesus entails? They think believing in Jesus which gets you to heaven also entails their own personal works of righteousness. That's why they are led astray by the false gospel that says once you've accepted Jesus Christ, you have to keep going to church, stop smoking, avoid fornication and adultery etc. Don't get me wrong, these things are good but are not what get you to heaven. They don't even play an inch because Jesus Christ paid it all, he did it all on the across all by himself. Moreover, our works of righteousness are filthy rags before God.
Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing , and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags
Don't tell me you are banking on filthy rags to get you to heaven, a holy and clean place where God lives. Relying on your works makes you no different from the people that built the Tower of Babel. They thought their handwork could get them to heaven, that's why they built the Tower in an attempt to reach heaven. You are also no different from Cain who relied on his work of tilling the soil to produce what he will sacrifice to God, unlike his brother Abel who relied on the blood of the lamb alone, which is a representation of Jesus Christ. Mixing your works of righteousness with believe in Jesus also makes you no different from a Muslim who will say he also believes on Jesus, yet he mixes it with Islam.
Jesus paid it all and to him we owe it all. He gave us the gift of eternal life in salvation. It is nothing we ever did but simple believe in him.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Verse 9 says works doesn't save us. This means if you do all manner of good works without having faith in Jesus, you will still end up in hell fire. Otherwise, Rich men will be able to buy their way into heaven. All they just have to do is use their money for charity works like Bill Gates does. Your works don't get you into heaven, Jesus does. Not that works are not good, but works without faith in Jesus is dead works. If you have faith in Jesus and do good works, you will be rewarded here on Earth and also in heaven.
If you don't do works at all, you will still make heaven as long as you hold faith in Jesus Christ which is in itself righteousness.
Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Friends, the horror of hell fire is real. Don't let anyone deceive you. I was deceived by Jehovah's Witnesses that hell fire doesn't exist. I held that false believe for years until I got saved and my eyes became open to the truth. If hell fire is not real, then what is Jesus saving you from? As seen above, it is easy to accept Jesus and live with him. Please do that now to secure your eternity. May God touch your heart. Amen.
IG: InstaAlbhagdadi Are you saying as christians,we can commit any sin and still make heaven ? 2 Likes |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by petrage(m): 10:19am On Dec 02, 2018 |
Jonathan:
Lmao
Jesus Christ my foot I hope U do not come to regret this statement. Fortunately for you Jesus epitomizes unconditional love. I have scorned him in time past with my deeds, yet he did stretch out his loving arms and drew me to his fold. Jesus loves you...open d door of your heart to him and it will be d best decision you have ever made. Life in eternity (Heaven and Hell) is real!!! 1 Like |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Jonadull: 10:21am On Dec 02, 2018 |
petrage:
I hope U do not come to regret this statement. Fortunately for you Jesus epitomizes unconditional love. I have scorned him in time past with my deeds, yet he did stretch out his loving arms and drew me to his fold. Jesus loves you...open d door of your heart to him and it will be d best decision you have ever made. Life in eternity (Heaven and Hell) is real!!! A noun is a naming word |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by sshyne(m): 10:21am On Dec 02, 2018 |
The only sin that can take you to hell is leaving grace and going back to the law. I would have dropped Bible references but am not in the mood for unnecessary arguments |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by JJOF(m): 10:22am On Dec 02, 2018 |
Hircanus:
So what is the one sin?
UNBELIEF |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by lugiano1: 10:23am On Dec 02, 2018 |
Jonathan:
Lmao
Jesus Christ my foot its only a fool that says there is no God.. Judge yourself 1 Like |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by generalud: 10:26am On Dec 02, 2018 |
But we were told that all sins can take one to hell fire and not only one sin. 1 Like |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by tstx(m): 10:32am On Dec 02, 2018 |
1zynnvn:
What if Hitler or shekau repented 2mins b4 death, they'll go to heaven right 2mins of repentance wipes away years of inhumane acts but God is so just.
But me a Christian from birth, does good all my life, one day I doubt, maybe there is no God, I die and straight to hell |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by petrage(m): 10:37am On Dec 02, 2018 |
Denying the reality of eternity is saying God doesn't exist. Events in human existence have shown that there is a reward system for every action thus the term 'Karma'. Every religion advocates life in the hereafter and there's consequences for every evil act. Back to the poster: True it's only faith in Christ Jesus that delivers one from the eternal damnation of hell. St Paul in his admonition to the Roman Church said "shall we continue to sin so that grace may abound? God forbid". Accepting Jesus in itself is a new birth experience sanctified by the workings of the Holy Spirit. A believer in Christ Jesus have no desire to sin because it is the righteousness of God that is now at work in him. Yes in the earth realm we are prone to errors as humans and thus the provision to ask God for forgiveness. We are daily striving to perfection as believers till the day we meet God in eternity. |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Cabble4(m): 10:43am On Dec 02, 2018 |
The Grace of God is still available. I just wish you wouldn't be among the "had I known" crew when it may be too late. My prayer is that you will not perish because of ignorance. BiGVEEN58:
There is no hell.
People who still believe these stories that were taught in Sunday schools during their childhood are just foolish and they have no one to guide them out of their foolishness.
They hate logical explanation. They hate to reason. They hate to work their brains.
If you are one of them, read books, ask questions, find answers.. It’ll help you.
If you are willing to have sense, these two books will help you.
Read them like a student and not a follower. Read them to gain understanding and not to be a zombie.
1. About the holy bible. &
2. Why I am an agnostic.
Both by Robert Green Ingersoll.
I know someone here will say “God help your soul.”
I know ehn. Plsss save it for your children. Bye.
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| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Nobody: 10:44am On Dec 02, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:
It means you believe that he has taken away all your sins, past, present and future. He did it when he died on the cross and resurrected on the third day. With that you are relying on him as your saviour from condemnation and as a means of eternal life. |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Emytexboy(m): 10:45am On Dec 02, 2018 |
we all have been called into the Royal priest hood of our Lord Jesus Christ if we have been wholly sanctified, and as believers in the word of God, we ought to exempt our selves from all kinds of sinful acts, such as these, >>>Galatians 5:19-22
[19]When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures,
[20]idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division,
[21]envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
[22]But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, you need to be wholly sanctified to be free from the yoke of slavery of unbelieving, to avoid been condemned, and understand that the Grace of God upon man kind is not a lices or permission to us to continue in sin, but for us to receive the holy spirit from God to enable us to have the power to say no to sins and live the life of a believer, making what the scripture says in James 2:20 that faith which is your believe in Christ without works is dead, and our Lord Jesus Christ rectified the teachings in Luke 6:45 saying why do you call me Lord, yet refuses to obey my teachings, what's are the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ? he says as a true child of God, you must always be free from these>>>Galatians 5:19-22
[19]When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures,
[20]idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division,
[21]envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
[22]But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, God bless you. 3 Likes |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Nobody: 10:46am On Dec 02, 2018 |
tstx:
[s]Don't deceive yourself bro.... Purgatory exists for a reason... You that stole from your moms purse wont spend eternity in hell with Abubakar shekau or hitler..,pray for enlightenment[/s]. |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by asawanathegreat(m): 10:48am On Dec 02, 2018 |
Live a good life and inherit heaven, that is all |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by BiGVEEN58(m): 10:49am On Dec 02, 2018 |
Cabble4:
The Grace of God is still available.
I just wish you wouldn't be among the "had I known" crew
when it may be too late.
My prayer is that you will not perish because of ignorance.
Here is one of them..  bro am not sorry to say. you lack intelligence and the commonest of senses. I pity your children. Just look what they are gon inherit from you.  |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by alBHAGDADI: 10:49am On Dec 02, 2018 |
specco:
This version of gospel that requires you to only 'belief' then continue in your old ways is scary. What then is the difference "character wise" between a christian and a non christian if Christians are not expected to live by example but only belief and all is alright wthout any change in their behaviour.?
Yes we're saved by grace but again in Matthew 7:21 Jesus said that not everybody the call him Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of heaven but only those that do the will of his Father.
Op please balance things up so that new converts will not carry go (in local parlance).
The reason why you find it scary is simply because it is too much of good news that you find it difficult to believe. Instead of you to embrace the Good News, you are rejecting it and going back to the Law of working your way to righteousness which you can never attain in that manner. This Gospel which is another word for Good News is the only gospel. Others are counterfeit because they don't bring good news. If I tell you that I want to give you a skyscraper in Eko Atlantic City but you will be the one to build it from scratch. You will even be the only one to carry out the manual labour. Will you find the news to be Good News? No, because it means you will have to do hard work and still not be able to achieve the task. What if I tell you that I will give you an already completed Skyscraper in Eko Atlantic City, and that all you have to do is believe, won't that sound like Good News to you? That is symbolic of the kind of Gospel the disciples of Jesus preached to people. They told them to believe in Jesus. I do t see where they added that they shouldn't sin or they will lose their salvation. Yes, they did admoNisb against sin, but making heaven was all about believe in Jesus alone, not your works. Yes, Christians are to live by example, but it is the Holy Spirit that helps us achieve that, not by ourselves. specco:
Yes we're saved by grace but again in Matthew 7:21 Jesus said that not everybody the call him Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of heaven but only those that do the will of his Father. You simply do Not understand what THE WILL OF THE FATHER IS in this passage you quoted. I really get excited when someone brings it up because it gives me the opportunity to explain it to them very well. Now, let's get the context of the verse by reading the proceeding and succeeding verses. Matthew 7:21-23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. According to you, you say one has to do works of righteousness before he can make heaven.How come Jesus told the above people that he never knew them and that they should depart from him? Didn't they do MANY WONDERFUL WORKS as seen in verse 22? Jesus rejected them because they were relying on their works to save them, they left jesus out of the equation. They were never saved that's why Jesus said he never knew them. If he had saved them before, would he say he never knew them? Why were they not saved and why did Jesus confirm. them? They were not saved because they were trusting in their works to save them. Jesus condemned them because they never did THE WILL OF THE FATHER. Now, what is the will of the Father? Some people think the will of the father is that we shouldn't commit sins like fornication, lying, stealing, murder etc. Wrong! Let's allow the Bible be its own dictionary by showing us what the will of the Father is. John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. Did you see what the will of the father is? The will of the father is for us to believe e on Jesus Christ for us to have everlasting life. Those people Jesus condemned didn't believe in him. They believed in their works to save them and give them eternal life, hence they didn't do the will of the father which is that we believe in his Son Jesus Christ. Another will of the father seen below shows that we cannot lose our salvation. John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 1 Like |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by petrage(m): 10:51am On Dec 02, 2018 |
1zynnvn:
What if Hitler or shekau repented 2mins b4 death, they'll go to heaven right 2mins of repentance wipes away years of inhumane acts but God is so just.
But me a Christian from birth, does good all my life, one day I doubt, maybe there is no God, I die and straight to hell That's why we are saved by grace and not by works. No human is beyond redemption. If Shekau genuinely repents of his atrocities and ask God for forgiveness, accepting Christ into his life, he will be saved. Remember the thief who died at the side of Jesus at Calvary? That's the depiction of Salvation. As for one who is a believer and turns his back from God Read Ezekiel 3:20. It's to hold firmly to the truth you have. 3 Likes |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Jonadull: 10:53am On Dec 02, 2018 |
lugiano1:
its only a fool that says there is no God.. Judge yourself Lmao |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Drsavage(m): 10:54am On Dec 02, 2018 |
SUNBET091:
DON'T BE LEFT OUT
NOBODY IS BORN TO BE A FAILURE IN LIFE
YOU CAN MAKE IT TOO
FOR YOU TO BE RICH OR POOR IS IN YOUR HANDS
HARD WORK CAN'T MAKE YOU RICH
WORK SMART AND MAKE MONEY WITH YOUR PHONE Dude... if it's so sure like you nedwits say it is. why not stake your whole life and win 50 million, than selling your shit to people. No hard feelings bro, JUST SAYING. |
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| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Denikayan: 10:56am On Dec 02, 2018 |
Ralo:
Lovely! if this is true, then 99.999% of Nigerian christians will find themselves in “hellfire” as most of them practices hypocrisy NOT Christianity. Constructions workers in Heaven will need to expand hell fire cos the number of us coming there from Nigeria will break the place and if care is not taken, some people will escape to heaven 1 Like |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Geesunny: 10:57am On Dec 02, 2018 |
I carefully read your piece and came to one conclusion. You were never a Christian in the real sense of it. No one can answer questions for God. Christianity is not about hell fire.It is God's love shed in our heart by the holy spirit. Christianity is not the work of flesh but a spiritual life anchored on the salvation as delivered to mankind by Christ's death on the cross. If you believe there is God in the first place,ask him questions sincerely ,he will answer you. God bless |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by alBHAGDADI: 10:58am On Dec 02, 2018 |
1zynnvn:
What if Hitler or shekau repented 2mins b4 death, they'll go to heaven right 2mins of repentance wipes away years of inhumane acts but God is so just.
But me a Christian from birth, does good all my life, one day I doubt, maybe there is no God, I die and straight to hell Jesus came to die for sinners, even the worst of them all. If someone like shekau or Osama bin laden suddenly believed in Jesus Christ the right way it ought to be, he will make heaven irrespective of the magnitude of his sins. Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Now, for you born into a Christians home, that doesn't make you a Christian. Being a Christian is believe in Jesus only. With that, you are not condemned. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Search your heart and believe in Jesus alone.Please read the OP again because salvation cam be found in it. |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Nobody: 10:59am On Dec 02, 2018 |
BiGVEEN58:
There is no hell.
People who still believe these stories that were taught in Sunday schools during their childhood are just foolish and they have no one to guide them out of their foolishness.
They hate logical explanation. They hate to reason. They hate to work their brains.
If you are one of them, read books, ask questions, find answers.. It’ll help you.
If you are willing to have sense, these two books will help you.
Read them like a student and not a follower. Read them to gain understanding and not to be a zombie.
1. About the holy bible. &
2. Why I am an agnostic.
Both by Robert Green Ingersoll.
I know someone here will say “God help your soul.”
I know ehn. Plsss save it for your children. Bye.
You have a finite mind, just as the rest of us. Don't talk like you have been to the future and come back, or died and resurrected. Whether you believe in Hell's existence or not, it changes nothing. God has revealed this truth to you, it's up to you to decide whether you'll believe or not. How could you reject something as good as salvation? The fact that you lot go as far as trying to disprove the inerrancy of the bible reveals one thing: You just don't want to believe, because your heart is consumed with the cares of this world. 1 Like |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by alBHAGDADI: 11:01am On Dec 02, 2018 |
Ruddyman:
How you make conclusions on whether I'm saved or Not?
One can lose his or her salvation .....Salvation is not a license to go off doing anything you like while it waits for you......to come back and wear it again like a clothe....
Thank you...
You are not saved because you believe you can lose what you didn't save. Jesus saved you, and it is him who can lose you. However, he has promised that he will never lose you, nothing can pluck you out of his hand, that's if you are his sheep John 10:27-30 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and my Father are one. |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by alBHAGDADI: 11:03am On Dec 02, 2018 |
nwanyionitsha:
Are you saying as christians,we can commit any sin and still make heaven ? Yes, but know that God your Father is watching you and is ever ready to punish you for it because he loves you like a father would. Now, do you want God to continue punishing you because you want to sin? Hebrews 12:6-11 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? 10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. 11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by alBHAGDADI: 11:06am On Dec 02, 2018 |
[quote author=Glycolysis post=73483849][/quote]Please don't strike out my words if you can't prove them wrong.
Jesus has taken away all our sins, past, present and future . He did it when he died on the cross and resurrected on the third day. With that we are relying on him as our saviour from condemnation and as a means of eternal life. |
| Re: It Is Only One Sin That Sends People To Hell Fire by Nobody: 11:09am On Dec 02, 2018 |
What is the core factor thay makes Christians sin after they have been saved? |
