Jman06:
Hospital pharmacy practice like I stated before needs some improvement. I'm not disputing that. But that doesn't mean all other governmental agencies are same as hospitals. Like I stated before, I have pharmacists in other agencies who are doing fine.
The point of this thread is not even about job satisfaction but about getting the job at all. Job satisfaction is relative! Somebody can be in hospital practice and be satisfied while another person would not.
I know hospital pharmacists who are also into community practice using other pharmacists as superintendents and they are doing well.

You are here complaining while others who graduated since the past 12years have not gotten anything at all.

Suspect33:
bro, I want to study computer science but wrote waec as a commercial student, what can I do now?

AlphaT1:

Bros job satisfaction is not only about the salary....majority of my coursemates and colleagues (both senior and junior) in those public institutions you mentioned are unhappy with their jobs...I just helped one senior pharmacist moved from Igbobi to Chemonics (NGO) recently, one left Nafdac for malaria consortium etc. This is my 9th year in HSE. I no be small pikin again na....I don reach to advise young ones based on experience and reality....my lecturer mates don reach senior lecturer o bros.......

spiritualmubi:
Good evening sir, the Man of honour, I really need your clarification regarding some issues, please what do you mean by HSE? And to the main ish, I'm currently studying botany but I dont just like the course, tho will be going to 200 level next session. So I want to switch to pharmacy, you said frustration awaits he who opts in for hospital and public institution practice, so what will you advice me to equip my self with for the industrial, ngo & community practice?

AlphaT1:

You wouldn't understand from afar. Do you know up to 50 pharmacists? I have over a 1000 of them as friends. We just concluded the PSN 91st Annual Conference in Ibadan last month where more than 5000 pharmacists gathered to discuss their challenges and the way forward. I own a community premise too (partnership) so automatically am a member of ACPN. All licensed pharmacists belong to at least one technical group/association. All the agencies (where pharmacists are licensed) were there to make presentations about their challenges, d details of which I can't put down here. Like I said hospitals and other public institutions are for the average kind of people.
I don't believe in average and I don't encourage anyone under me to.. I push my interns to the extreme (professionally). They think I am wicked but when they look back afterwards, they appreciate me for helping them become better persons!
If after 12 years of graduation, you are still sitting at home idle then something is wrong with such a person, perhaps he/she is a mediocre. I was lecturing, doing masters and also volunteering with an NGO....I met a guy during NYSC, he read anatomy but was good in maths ..2 yrs after service he was still looking for job...I encouraged him to go into 'statistical analysis'...he was complaining and giving excuses ...I pushed him more and more and he picked it up, he bought books and read, learnt some apps...he started with analysis of just one project and today he is an employer of 2 graduates in his company.
I don't encourage undergraduates (regardless of any course) to have these casual thoughts that they are going to school to come out and have a job....what if the job doesn't come? Can I volunteer? Can I learn a skill? Do I have any talent I can develop? Can I do a business? I taught my wife graphic design myself, she has also learnt video editing, movie make up/prosthesis, and catering services...She never wanted to but I persuaded her, she wanted a bank job that wasn't forthcoming. She is doing very very well today. I have also paid and learnt event planning and interior decor myself. So whenever i am less busy I help her and her staff out. For me learning never stops, education opens your mind to think innovatively! Wherever I live, I make it a point of duty to "push" as many interested unemployed youth as possible into a profitable venture beyond sitting and waiting for a govt job. No course is bad and no one deserves to remain unemployed!

spiritualmubi:
Good evening sir, the Man of honour, I really need your clarification regarding some issues, please what do you mean by HSE? And to the main ish, I'm currently studying botany but I dont just like the course, tho will be going to 200 level next session. So I want to switch to pharmacy, you said frustration awaits he who opts in for hospital and public institution practice, so what will you advice me to equip my self with for the industrial, ngo & community practice?

AlphaT1:

HSE means health, safety and environment. I am not saying hospital or public institutions are completely bad but there a lot of challenges there that easily frustrate the very ambitious persons, however, if you are comfortable with an average kind of life, you may find them okay....You would need to be open minded, flexible, curious to learn, think innovation, focussed, strive for academic excellence....Even if your interest is NGO for instance, it may not come easily. You may need to do hospital practice for the mean time while looking out for NGO.

Jman06:


Bro, you are deviating from the point of the thread. Multiplying one's income sources is a different thing all together! The point is, did your training as a pharmacist give you a job when you finished?? And the answer is yes. Many graduates cannot boast of that. That lecturing job you left is what many people have been fasting and praying for.

I wonder the satisfaction in going to the university to study anatomy only to graduate and go back to learn fashion designing, when the person could have done so with just basic o level education.

The point is, instead of studying some courses that would not train one for a career the person should simply go and learn a skill/trade, unless such person is from a wealthy home and can afford to study further and become a researcher in that field.

spiritualmubi:
I get your point sir, my interest is in industrial pharmacy, then community, thanks sir, that was helpful, my aim is higher than average.

AlphaT1:

Bros I am not deviating, I am a realist and this is Nigeria, we don't have such number of institutions to accommodate a good number of candidates into those so called juicy courses you mentioned. So people will continue to study the non-juicy courses and would just have to make do with what they have. I told you that education opens your mind to think creatively and innovatively (irrespective of course of study). It lifts your IQ and gives you that analytical capacity to think smart, to birth ideas vis-a-vis problems vs solutions. An illiterate who only learnt a skill doesn't have this advantage. ....
The delivery of a talent/skill/idea by an educated person is not same with that of an uneducated person; what we commonly call packaging is an example-carpenter vs furniture maker, tailor vs fashion designer etc.
Our educational system is a major problem, we only cram textbooks or notes and give back in exams...Our IQ is not challenged on practical issues; problems vs solutions. In my masters in Unilag we were given notes to cram and pour back and get our >4points to qualify for PhD. In my masters in OSH (USA) we were given practical case studies to analyze and proffer solutions, articles to critique, scholarly activity to execute etc...
You don't necessarily have to practice what you studied...I am not practicing pharmacy, for instance, but pharmacy equiped me with strong analytical and innovative skills which I have been able to creatively apply in HSE....

Jman06:
It is better for one to attend vocational training institutions where one can learn those skills than going to waste years in the university studying a course that can't train them for a career.
Industrialized nations of the world such as China and the rest didn't have to train ALL their workforce up to the university level. In fact , many of their artisans have just the basic education.

The numerous courses you took in pharmacy school and the fact that the standard of study in pharmacy is top notch compared to some other courses is an advantage you had. You check it nau, you finished pharmacy where you got relatively better training and exposure, did internship in a hospital where you earned perhaps a 6 digits salary for one year, did youth's service where you also earned better than your peers in other courses. Then you finished and readily got lecturing job, the only problem here being your greed to make it big and fast, but you had everything to launch you into where you are now bro, be grateful! Many graduates come home from service with no dime to start life with and no prospect of getting a job. That's the point of the thread!

AlphaT1:

You wouldn't understand from afar. Do you know up to 50 pharmacists? I have over a 1000 of them as friends. We just concluded the PSN 91st Annual Conference in Ibadan last month where more than 5000 pharmacists gathered to discuss their challenges and the way forward. I own a community premise too (partnership) so automatically am a member of ACPN. All licensed pharmacists belong to at least one technical group/association. All the agencies (where pharmacists are licensed) were there to make presentations about their challenges, d details of which I can't put down here. Like I said hospitals and other public institutions are for the average kind of people.
I don't believe in average and I don't encourage anyone under me to.. I push my interns to the extreme (professionally). They think I am wicked but when they look back afterwards, they appreciate me for helping them become better persons!
If after 12 years of graduation, you are still sitting at home idle then something is wrong with such a person, perhaps he/she is a mediocre. I was lecturing, doing masters and also volunteering with an NGO....I met a guy during NYSC, he read anatomy but was good in maths ..2 yrs after service he was still looking for job...I encouraged him to go into 'statistical analysis'...he was complaining and giving excuses ...I pushed him more and more and he picked it up, he bought books and read, learnt some apps...he started with analysis of just one project and today he is an employer of 2 graduates in his company.
I don't encourage undergraduates (regardless of any course) to have these casual thoughts that they are going to school to come out and have a job....what if the job doesn't come? Can I volunteer? Can I learn a skill? Do I have any talent I can develop? Can I do a business? I taught my wife graphic design myself, she has also learnt video editing, movie make up/prosthesis, and catering services...She never wanted to but I persuaded her, she wanted a bank job that wasn't forthcoming. She is doing very very well today. I have also paid and learnt event planning and interior decor myself. So whenever i am less busy I help her and her staff out. For me learning never stops, education opens your mind to think innovatively! Wherever I live, I make it a point of duty to "push" as many interested unemployed youth as possible into a profitable venture beyond sitting and waiting for a govt job. No course is bad and no one deserves to remain unemployed!

Jman06:
It is better for one to attend vocational training institutions where one can learn those skills than going to waste years in the university studying a course that can't train them for a career.
Industrialized nations of the world such as China and the rest didn't have to train ALL their workforce up to the university level. In fact , many of their artisans have just the basic education.

The numerous courses you took in pharmacy school and the fact that the standard of study in pharmacy is top notch compared to some other courses is an advantage you had. You check it nau, you finished pharmacy where you got relatively better training and exposure, did internship in a hospital where you earned perhaps a 6 digits salary for one year, did youth's service where you also earned better than your peers in other courses. Then you finished and readily got lecturing job, the only problem here being your greed to make it big and fast, but you had everything to launch you into where you are now bro, be grateful! Many graduates come home from service with no dime to start life with and no prospect of getting a job. That's the point of the thread!

IamShiningStar:

lol! I even didn't see this post before the above comment was made and yet you proved me right with this comment. some people sha! I reserve my comment.

Thermodynamics:


No they don't, maybe in Dubai or in the western world, but definitely not in Nigeria, they just hire them to do small small contracts once in a while and when contract nor de, you go starve. Except your family is well connected, then, you can secure huge government contract and make it big.

Thermodynamics:
Advice for the teenagers, getting a job in Nigeria isn't easy, so don't let anyone deceive you with some bullshit talk like "" it doesn't matter what you study, as long as you are a graduate"". i am going to give it to you straight, study any of these courses to improve your chances of getting a job:

1). All engineering apart from Civil and Agric Engn.

2). Bus Admin and Economics

3). Medicine, nursing and pharmacy. Don't study law.

4). Computer science.

But finally, God above everything, if God says you will be successful in life, nothing can stop you, no matter the course you study. What I wrote up there is just my logical opinion. No offense to anyone.

Jman06:
Do you even know what the argument was about before you quoted me

AlphaT1:

Okay..best wishes!

rhymesnoni:
I was forced to by my Parents to study Economics, as against my prefaered Polical Science cause of my Phoebia for Mathematics....
Thank God they did, cause I not only Studied Economic, bt also Graduated with a good grade, and also secured a job after my service

graccce:





Pls advice a sista ,I heard the course economics is hard especially the mathematics attached to it cos I'm phobia for maths as well. Pls should I go ahead and study it. Thanks