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2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by bigpicture001: 11:42pm On Dec 11, 2018
...a lot of times I shame my head in shame of very educated Nigerians whim the APC has sold helplessly the idea that the previous ruling party did nothing but " loot,loot and loot. Because of this notion their has been a very harsh divide between both e- supporters of both parties

So I created this thread to finally give a platform for supporters to fully express themselves. On my part, I beleive against the general APC promotes beleive that the PDP did well for the nation in 16 years. So right here and now,I CHALLENGE any APC supporters who claims the PDP did nothing to ask me what ever sector they are interested in and I will tell them what massive non- advertised job the PDP has done..

Let's start........
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by lathrowinger: 11:45pm On Dec 11, 2018
bigpicture001:
...a lot of times I shame my head in shame of very educated Nigerians whim the APC has sold helplessly the idea that the previous ruling party did nothing but " loot,loot and loot. Because of this notion their has been a very harsh divide between both e- supporters of both parties

So I created this thread to finally give a platform for supporters to fully express themselves. On my part, I beleive against the general APC promotes beleive that the PDP did well for the nation in 16 years. So right here and now,I CHALLENGE any APC supporters who claims the PDP did nothing to ask me what ever sector they are interested in and I will tell them what massive non- advertised job the PDP has done..

Let's start........
Is there no other party apart from this deadly and loters party. Why apc and pdp all the time,?
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by Naza25: 11:49pm On Dec 11, 2018
lathrowinger:

Is there no other party apart from this deadly and loters party. Why apc and pdp all the time,?
I wonder o, people just limit themselves with their short sightedness
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by bigpicture001: 12:00am On Dec 12, 2018
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Is there no other party apart from this deadly and loters party. Why apc and pdp all the time,?

Ok, other party members are welcomed!
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by helinues: 5:02am On Dec 12, 2018
I am commenting as someone who doesn't not belong to any political party nor having interest in voting.

Only a lame person will say Pdp did not do any projects for the 16 years but if PDp had perform at this present Fg rate, APC wouldn't have won the 2015 election. The looting under Pdp was just too much for any real developments.

As at May 2015, 27 states were unable to pay salary. If not for the FG bail out, both state and local economy could have collapsed. 75% of states affected.

3.5 years of Apc is FAR FAR better than 16 years of PDP. Is it by completed projects, Npower, Tradermoni, Security, transparency from the Fg( even if not perfect).

The real major different between this present government and the past is both masses and the elites felt/feel this government in the same measure.

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by helinues: 5:19am On Dec 12, 2018
lathrowinger:

Is there no other party apart from this deadly and loters party. Why apc and pdp all the time,?

There are other party but the truth is, none of them can win a state. They may have a good plans more than these old cargo, but they do not have the structures to win a presidential election

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by bigpicture001: 7:49am On Dec 12, 2018
helinues:
I am commenting as someone who does not belong to any political party nor having interest in voting.

Only a lame person will say Pdp did not do any projects for the 16 years but if PDp had perform at this present Fg rate, APC wouldn't have won the 2015 election. The looting under Pdp was just too much for any real developments.

As at May 2015, 27 states were unable to pay salary. If not for the FG bail out, both state and local economy could have collapse. 75% of states affected.

3.5 years of Apc is FAR FAR better than 16 years of PDP. Is it by completed projects, Npower, Tradermoni, Security, transparency from the Fg( even if not perfect).

The real major different between this present government and the past is both masses and the elites felt/feel this government in the same measure.

.....brother all those things you listed; trada moni,N power, they ar totally aimless schemes. Do you know ghana gives out sich mony monthly to her people..? And yes,but they givethem ooit to te elderly .that is to alleviatr the effect o poverty on the old and also reduce the dependence of the ol on their children. That is what i call good welfare stabilization sheme

Non of those your above listed can be compared to PDP's "you win!" scheme. Where te FG aims to empower the bright,thought and hardworking ordinary citizen to establis their own biznesses, and sich biznesses must employ a minimum of 8 persons and everyyear ,there are about 200 winners across the country: that is what i call a scheme wth a purpose and not just doe out 30k monthly to youth who do nothing apart from buy more iphones,even a dat 99 percent dont go to their place of assignement. That a very good wayto waste a nnational resourses and fueul inflation in the econony. ONLY money not earned causes inflation. That also can be applied to tradamoni. I laff at that one cuz 10k cant solve even a priblem. I studied economy. And these are the dumbeat ways to solve a nations economic woes.

On security. It will be unfair to say onathan who experinecd the worst of boko haam didnt tryhi bet to curtail it. H is a prwsident and nt a soldier.He removed the cheifof rmy saff 3x,just to get resukt and wen he was convinced the nigerian armyccoldntsstart boko haram,he hired foreign mercenary,and that brought a lasting peace and reclamation of all occupied territory. Jonathan handed a a more calm north east region t to buhari ,who couldnt consolidate e........i bleive mny o you dt swallow the apc pill are very nu to the news.......u guyz hv fallen for very cheaplie s!

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by bigpicture001: 7:51am On Dec 12, 2018
helinues:


There are other party but the truth is, none of them can win a state. They may have a good plans more than these old cargo, but they do not have the structures to win a presidential election

Even.the US has up to five parties,ONLYttwo arwwel known
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by MadamExcellency: 8:00am On Dec 12, 2018
The only debate APC can get involve is posting campaign crowd pictures (Photoshops and real) with Buhari saying nothing.

Analog, stone age President. Buhari that can't remember his phone number even in 2015.

I may vote Buhari as a pay back to those that voted him in 2015. They think they are the only ones that can punish others with evil.

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by omoowo8888(m): 8:03am On Dec 12, 2018
bigpicture001:
...a lot of times I shame my head in shame of very educated Nigerians whim the APC has sold helplessly the idea that the previous ruling party did nothing but " loot,loot and loot. Because of this notion their has been a very harsh divide between both e- supporters of both parties

So I created this thread to finally give a platform for supporters to fully express themselves. On my part, I beleive against the general APC promotes beleive that the PDP did well for the nation in 16 years. So right here and now,I CHALLENGE any APC supporters who claims the PDP did nothing to ask me what ever sector they are interested in and I will tell them what massive non- advertised job the PDP has done..

Let's start........

Tell us about SURE P

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by dunkem21(m): 8:04am On Dec 12, 2018
MadamExcellency:
The only debate APC can get involved is posting campaign crowd pictures (Photoshops and real) with Buhari saying nothing.

Analog, stone age President. Buhari that can't remember his phone number even in 2015.

I may vote Buhari as a pay back to those that voted him in 2015. They think they are only ones that can punish others with evil.

grin

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by frankmoney(m): 8:04am On Dec 12, 2018
Oga allow the candidates to defend themselves , the supporters opinion won't matter when any of the candidates win
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by omoowo8888(m): 8:05am On Dec 12, 2018
bigpicture001:
.....brother all those things you listed; trada moni,N power, they ar totally aimless schemes. Do you know ghana gives out sich mony monthly to her people..? And yes,but they givethem ooit to te elderly .that is to alleviatr the effect o poverty on the old and also reduce the dependence of the ol on their children. That is what i call good welfare stabilization sheme

Non of those your above listed can be compared to PDP's "you win!" scheme. Where te FG aims to empower the bright,thought and hardworking ordinary citizen to establis their own biznesses, and sich biznesses must employ a minimum of 8 persons and everyyear ,there are about 200 winners across the country: that is what i call a scheme wth a purpose and not just doe out 30k monthly to youth who do nothing apart from buy more iphones,even a dat 99 percent dont go to their place of assignement. That a very good wayto waste a nnational resourses and fueul inflation in the econony. ONLY money not earned causes inflation. That also can be applied to tradamoni. I laff at that one cuz 10k cant solve even a priblem. I studied economy. And these are the dumbeat ways to solve a nations economic woes.

On security. It will be unfair to say onathan who experinecd the worst of boko haam didnt tryhi bet to curtail it. H is a prwsident and nt a soldier.He removed the cheifof rmy saff 3x,just to get resukt and wen he was convinced the nigerian armyccoldntsstart boko haram,he hired foreign mercenary,and that brought a lasting peace and reclamation of all occupied territory. Jonathan handed a a more calm north east region t to buhari ,who couldnt consolidate e........i bleive mny o you dt swallow the apc pill are very nu to the news.......u guyz hv fallen for very cheaplie s!

Tell us the beneficiaries of youwin that you know

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by IamPlato(m): 8:20am On Dec 12, 2018
Without Further Arguments, The Bone Of Contention Is That; Although PDP Held Little Advantage For Us, APC happens To Be The Pitfall Of This Nation. Buhari Is An Undeniable Mistake That Must Never Repeat Itself

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by selectedhero(m): 8:24am On Dec 12, 2018
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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by IamPlato(m): 8:33am On Dec 12, 2018
helinues:


There are other party but the truth is, none of them can win a state. They may have a good plans more than these old cargo, but they do not have the structures to win a presidential election
oga dont Say You Dont Support Any Party. you Are An Apc supporter...



During Buhari Reign...


How Do You Explain The Outragous increase In Fuel Price During Buhari reign?

How Do You Explain The Massive Drop Of Electricity 9months After Goodluck Left?


How Do You Explain The Raise Of Fulani Terrorists?


How Do You Explain The Battle Against The Church?


How Do You Explain The Uselessness of 5naira Note?


How About The Scarcity Of N50 N100 N200


What Has The President Done About The Young Girl In Boko haram's Custody?


What Is Happening To The International Road Construction from Mile 2 to Seme Border?


Where Is The N5000 Stipend?


Why The Drastic Drop In Employment And Rapid Increase In Retrenchment?


Answer These And I Will Drop More...

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by kunleweb: 8:53am On Dec 12, 2018
MadamExcellency:
The only debate APC can get involve is posting campaign crowd pictures (Photoshops and real) with Buhari saying nothing.

Analog, stone age President. Buhari that can't remember his phone number even in 2015.

I may vote Buhari as a pay back to those that voted him in 2015. They think they are the only ones that can punish others with evil.



grin

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by bigpicture001: 8:55am On Dec 12, 2018
omoowo8888:


Tell us the beneficiaries of youwin that you know
...

My brothers friend got 9million naira ( he doent know a single sole in govt) he set up a toilt tissue factory,renting a double shop at porthacourt. Again a guy on.my street won 6 million to set up a printing press. My church guy won 5 million naira he used to aet up a fast food restuarant...

With you win.. you get to fill in a very tough proposal form of like 10 pages. Where they ask you 100% details about your proposal. If you win, you winners will be assembled and educated on how to manage a bizness. And then supervisors assigned to each winner. (a minimum of 2 supervisors) they will b the ones that pursäcahses any of ur necessay equipment with your own name: land,machines etc untill ur biz is set up ( all winthin ur winning amount)

Even when the buz is set up,u are given a running capital as spitupalted in ur proposal nd then they monitor your managemet for 6months b4 leaving u to ur biz entirely.

Is that one not better than nonsense N-power..? Where money are paid to people to simply buy fone wuthout any productivity..?

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by omoowo8888(m): 8:57am On Dec 12, 2018
bigpicture001:
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My brothers friend got 9million naira ( he doent know a single sole in govt) he set up a toilt tissue factory,renting a double shop at porthacourt. Again a guy on.my street won 6 million to set up a printing press. My church guy won 5 million naira he used to aet up a fast food restuarant...

With you win.. you get to fill in a very tough proposal form of like 10 pages. Where they ask you 100% details about your proposal. If you win, you winners will be assembled and educated on how to manage a bizness. And then supervisors assigned to each winner. (a minimum of 2 supervisors) they will b the ones that pursäcahses any of ur necessay equipment with your own name: land,machines etc untill ur biz is set up ( all winthin ur winning amount)

Even when the buz is set up,u are given a running capital as spitupalted in ur proposal nd then they monitor your managemet for 6months b4 leaving u to ur biz entirely.

Is that one not better than nonsense N-power..? Where money are paid to people to simply buy fone wuthout any productivity..?

Why do you guys love lying?

Show me the evidence
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by bigpicture001: 8:59am On Dec 12, 2018
frankmoney:
Oga allow the candidates to defend themselves , the supporters opinion won't matter when any of the candidates win
.....brother,in elections there is what is called the neutrals. This people are undecided on whom to vote for...debates like this may swing their choices,hence it is necesary to enligten everyone on issues on ground to help them.make a good choice.

Note* they are much in numbers
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by omoowo8888(m): 9:01am On Dec 12, 2018
IamPlato:
oga dont Say You Dont Support Any Party. you Are An Apc supporter...



During Buhari Reign...


How Do You Explain The Outragous increase In Fuel Price During Buhari reign?

How Do You Explain The Massive Drop Of Electricity 9months After Goodluck Left?



How Do You Explain The Raise Of Fulani Terrorists?


How Do You Explain The Battle Against The Church?


How Do You Explain The Uselessness of 5naira Note?


How About The Scarcity Of N50 N100 N200


What Has The President Done About The Young Girl In Boko haram's Custody
?


What Is Happening To The International Road Construction from Mile 2 to Seme Border?


Where Is The N5000 Stipend?


Why The Drastic Drop In Employment And Rapid Increase In Retrenchment?


Answer These And I Will Drop More...


Power supply was worse under GEJ......don't even go there at all......google search fulani and agatu crisis.....What did Jonathan do about Chibok girls?.....talking about unemoloyment, do u know what happened during immigration recruitment exercise? Was it not under PDP's regime that industries like dunlop elite and the rest left this country?

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by bigpicture001: 9:08am On Dec 12, 2018
omoowo8888:


Tell us about SURE P
...

SURE P is an employment enabling scheme crafted by the then finance minister dr ngozi okonjo iweala. It is ained at gradually but steadily increasing the rate of employment in nigeria since the foreign investors are slow at taking advantage of opportuninities abound in Nigeria.

The scheme is a lottey. Where the winner dorsnt have to pay back the money,neithee do u have to oay i terest on allocated money. No specific amount is a allocated to any winner. Instead it is according to what you can prove you tfuly nees to start a biz. Winning binesses are those that are capable of employing at least 8 persons . And the idea is that huge no of employees can be gathered through the SME's.

Every year abouth 200 biznesses win . And the organisers make sure that they are evenly spread out across all geo political zones.

Beleive me,they are far better than the lazy N-power scheme being promoted by the APC govt. In economics. Any money not earned is moneies that influence inflation, that is why govts world wide dont juat go printing mony

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by bigpicture001: 9:12am On Dec 12, 2018
omoowo8888:


Why do you guys love lying?

Show me the evidence
....

I guess, you just got into things of national issue recently and got stuck with the APC lies and deceit. "You win " was abig hit that even buhari resistated to cancel it...

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by IamPlato(m): 9:20am On Dec 12, 2018
omoowo8888:


Power supply was worse under GEJ......don't even go there at all......google search fulani and agatu crisis.....What did Jonathan do about Chibok girls?.....talking about unemoloyment, do u know what happened during immigration recruitment exercise? Was it not under PDP's regime that industries like dunlop elite and the rest left this country?
dont even Talk About Chibok. Buhari is A Cunning asshole. The Terrorists Are On Same Page With Him... Why Did The Terrorists Rise After Goodluck came Into Power After Yaradua died? The North Clearly Doesnt Want Any Person Else To Take the Throne...


Towards The End Of Goodluck's Reign electric Power Greatly Improved and Nine Months Down The Line With Buhari in Power, electricity Dropped. You Lie If You Say Power Was Worse In Goodluck's Reign...


Sir, Unemployment Has Always Been A Problem In Nigeria But During buhari Reign It Became Worse In History...

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by omoowo8888(m): 9:25am On Dec 12, 2018
bigpicture001:
...

SURE P is an employment enabling scheme crafted by the then finance minister dr ngozi okonjo iweala. It is ained at gradually but steadily increasing the rate of employment in nigeria since the foreign investors are slow at taking advantage of opportuninities abound in Nigeria.

The scheme is a lottey. Where the winner dorsnt have to pay back the money,neithee do u have to oay i terest on allocated money. No specific amount is a allocated to any winner. Instead it is according to what you can prove you tfuly nees to start a biz. Winning binesses are those that are capable of employing at least 8 persons . And the idea is that huge no of employees can be gathered through the SME's.

Every year abouth 200 biznesses win . And the organisers make sure that they are evenly spread out across all geo political zones.

Beleive me,they are far better than the lazy N-power scheme being promoted by the APC govt. In economics. Any money not earned is moneies that influence inflation, that is why govts world wide dont juat go printing mony

Balderdash.....where are the winners?
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by Larryfest(m): 9:25am On Dec 12, 2018
Doesn't really matter who wins between these two parties Nigeria is still going to be in deep shiit..
APC wins and Nigeria enters another level of untold hardship and hunger the likes of which has never be experienced before.
PDP wins and Nigeria economy goes straight back to the era of looting but this time it will be raised to the power of 10...
The best is to find means and get out of this hell hole call Nigeria ASAP..

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by helinues: 9:26am On Dec 12, 2018
IamPlato:
oga dont Say You Dont Support Any Party. you Are An Apc supporter...



During Buhari Reign...


How Do You Explain The Outragous increase In Fuel Price During Buhari reign?

How Do You Explain The Massive Drop Of Electricity 9months After Goodluck Left?


How Do You Explain The Raise Of Fulani Terrorists?


How Do You Explain The Battle Against The Church?


How Do You Explain The Uselessness of 5naira Note?


How About The Scarcity Of N50 N100 N200


What Has The President Done About The Young Girl In Boko haram's Custody?


What Is Happening To The International Road Construction from Mile 2 to Seme Border?


Where Is The N5000 Stipend?


Why The Drastic Drop In Employment And Rapid Increase In Retrenchment?


Answer These And I Will Drop More...


Kindly quote Apc supporters or probably Buhari. I am not there spokesperson.
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by bigpicture001: 9:28am On Dec 12, 2018
omoowo8888:


Power supply was worse under GEJ......don't even go there at all......google search fulani and agatu crisis.....What did Jonathan do about Chibok girls?.....talking about unemoloyment, do u know what happened during immigration recruitment exercise? Was it not under PDP's regime that industries like dunlop elite and the rest left this country?
...

The power sector under the PDD was demystified.! A lot of research took place to know what the real problem is and hence solution rendered. It was discovered that 'NEPA". Aa the name was called is the only body that generates,market,distribute and transmit power,they also regulated power too. So the govt then set out to undbundle this giant by creating acts that created NERC check the name on ur nepa bills . Then created,GENCOS and DISCOS and also TCN.

That is the beheining of progress in the electricity sector.and you will agree with me that it is not easy manipulating the national assembly to do this things,so it took time. Again the govt embarkes on the massive purschse of turbine planbt across the niger delta. I all 9 wwre bought but just 4 were in stalled because of politics of bitterness toward OBJ.
Mind you going through the due process office of nigeria,eventually buying and installation of these turbines took years since not many coy make turbine around the world. If u place an order it takes an average of 18 months to produce for you.

The PDP govt also pivoted and encouranged privat investment in power ,hence the bbirth of IPP's .

That is wherevthey stoped and fashola has still not been able to continue just the installation of more turbines and admisnitration of power. Mind you, naija produces less than 1,500.mega watts wen PDP took over and left it at installed capacity of 4k. Which fashola has not been able to improve upon.

Know it thataa time passed more houses and binesses add up andnif genaration does not increase,the available power caoacity i s neutralised.

Fashola only has mouth nad no action.

Pdd took the pain to find a dead naija, lifted it up,duated it took it to hospital started the treatment nd left all APC need do it make it function again. Yet they blame the person who dis the preliminary works

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Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by omoowo8888(m): 9:28am On Dec 12, 2018
IamPlato:
dont even Talk About Chibok. Buhari is A Cunning asshole. The Terrorists Are On Same Page With Him... Why Did The Terrorists Rise After Goodluck came Into Power After Yaradua died? The North Clearly Doesnt Want Any Person Else To Take the Throne...


Towards The End Of Goodluck's Reign electric Power Greatly Improved and Nine Months Down The Line With Buhari in Power, electricity Dropped. You Lie If You Say Power Was Worse In Goodluck's Reign...


Sir, Unemployment Has Always Been A Problem In Nigeria But During buhari Reign It Became Worse In History...


Liar.....so, Buhari was responsible for abduction of Chibok girls?..power didn't improve under Jonathan, it rather became worse.....unemployment was worse under PDP, that was the reason why PHD holders were applying for driving job in Dangote....even the economy was in comatose because the F.G was borrowing to pay salaries before Buhari came in.
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by omoowo8888(m): 9:31am On Dec 12, 2018
bigpicture001:
...

The power sector under the PDD was demystified.! A lot of research took place to know what the real problem is and hence solution rendered. It was discovered that 'NEPA". Aa the name was called is the only body that generates,market,distribute and transmit power,they also regulated power too. So the govt then set out to undbundle this giant by creating acts that created NERC check the name on ur nepa bills . Then created,GENCOS and DISCOS and also TCN.

That is the beheining of progress in the electricity sector.and you will agree with me that it is not easy manipulating the national assembly to do this things,so it took time. Again the govt embarkes on the massive purschse of turbine planbt across the niger delta. I all 9 wwre bought but just 4 were in stalled because of politics of bitterness toward OBJ.
Mind you going through the due process office of nigeria,eventually buying and installation of these turbines took years since not many coy make turbine around the world. If u place an order it takes an average of 18 months to produce for you.

The PDP govt also pivoted and encouranged privat investment in power ,hence the bbirth of IPP's .

That is wherevthey stoped and fashola has still not been able to continue just the installation of more turbines and admisnitration of power. Mind you, naija produces less than 1,500.mega watts wen PDP took over and left it at installed capacity of 4k. Which fashola has not been able to improve upon.

Know it thataa time passed more houses and binesses add up andnif genaration does not increase,the available power caoacity i s neutralised.

Fashola only has mouth nad no action.

Pdd took the pain to find a dead naija, lifted it up,duated it took it to hospital started the treatment nd left all APC need do it make it function again. Yet they blame the person who dis the preliminary works

Balderdash....we are now generating more than 7000 mega watts....Athiefku simply sold nepa to his cronies, that is the more reason we are having problem in the power sector.
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by omoowo8888(m): 9:32am On Dec 12, 2018
bigpicture001:
....

I guess, you just got into things of national issue recently and got stuck with the APC lies and deceit. "You win " was abig hit that even buhari resistated to cancel it...

Who just got into things of national issue?

Big hit and you are the only one who knows the beneficiary?
Re: 2019 : Nairaland Debate ; PDP Vs APC by IamPlato(m): 9:42am On Dec 12, 2018
helinues:

Kindly quote Apc supporters or probably Buhari. I am not there spokesperson.
then dont support what you dont know

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