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Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Tonyet1(m): 4:59pm On Aug 04, 2010
Mudley313:

why dont you get your facts from unbiased sources (based on reality) instead of selectively seeking obviously, not just biased, but irrationally bogus and fabricated ones. i thot one of the commandments of christianity speaks against bearing false witness. i dont know of any sane american in real life who takes seriously the claims of obama being a muslim except the extreme lunatic fringe of the neo-conservatives, most who simply are just ignorant and uneducated and for the most part, bigots and racists who never believed they'd be witnessing a black man rule over them in their life time

truth ko, truth ni. if the illogical conspiratory rants of the rabidly racist fringe in america is your truth, then you my friend need to check yourself into a psychiatric ward

Mudley, would you be so kind to give us facts from your unbiased sources about Obama, maybe we could learn a thing or two. You see one problem i hate with folks is that they always stand in the opposing seat with virtually nothing to say, they wait for others to talk and present facts and then respond with nothing but mere words. I tend to see it as someone fighting with a wooden sword against another with a metallic.

the best you can do is please give us facts that say the opposite of what i and the youtube source said of Mr.Usaine.  sad sad sad
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Tonyet1(m): 5:07pm On Aug 04, 2010
thehomer:

@OLAADEGBU and others,

You're back with your Obama accusations. I see that you're running from the previous lie/wrong conclusion you made on a previous post
(https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-469609.160.html This post in case you're wondering). Anyway, this video is like many of the other ones you've presented. I had to check this one out since some other posters were going "hey maybe he's right". So I checked out the video and what do I see, another conspiracy theorist in action. But this one had me laughing when she explained her method.

What she demonstrated is known as reverse speech. Check it out here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_speech
It seems to work due to a neural effect known as pareidolia which is basically the human brain making sense of noise.
Read more here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

There are lots of examples out there if you're willing to look. Here is a site that looks into the neural basis with some examples.
http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/people/matt.davis/sine-wave-speech/

Here's the site of the guy that started it all he has loads of examples too.
http://www.reversespeech.com/home.htm

So people who actually consider such videos as good evidence, should try some simple experiments. Record an entire 30 mins to 1 hour news show and play it all through on reverse and listen to what you think you hear.

Another thing I wonder is if this means that nobody is allowed to say "Yes we can" repeatedly any more? Since it sounds like praising Satan on reverse speech?

if you are against the use of the backward technology or rewind technology, whatabout declaring a whole month for homosexuals to celebrate their 'lifestyle'. . . it that christian-like? especially for someone who claims to be a christian, will any true christian in his right mind declare such a thing? lets hear what you have to say about that Mr.Homer.  embarassed
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Mudley313: 7:22pm On Aug 04, 2010
Tonye-t:

Mudley, would you be so kind to give us facts from your unbiased sources about Obama, maybe we could learn a thing or two. You see one problem i hate with folks is that they always stand in the opposing seat with virtually nothing to say, they wait for others to talk and present facts and then respond with nothing but mere words. I tend to see it as someone fighting with a wooden sword against another with a metallic.

the best you can do is please give us facts that say the opposite of what i and the youtube source said of Mr.Usaine.  sad sad sad


wooden sword ko, metallic spoon ni (by the way, "hussein" is the middle name not "usaine" just incase we're referring to the same person here). anyways, trying to debunk the utter insanity that came with the ushering in of america's first black president by the mostly racist conspiracy wing-nuts is like trying to argue with a stark unclothed raving lunatic on the street of mile 2 who claims to be the king of england that he is not. there're so many of these outrageous claims (which in actualityare rooted in racism, fear and hatred) that i wouldn't know where to start my debunking from; from obama being the anti-christ to obama being a pretend christian and a closet muslim to obama not being a US citizen to the utter insanity of the OP video of obama thanking satan. You can't "debunk" insanity, you can only stare agape in horror and wonder if the people actually fostering this deep-dish crapola really believe any of this or they simply are turning in a workmanlike product to cash the check? The "Obama Derangement Syndrome" on the part of the wingnuts is far more concentrated and insane than the "Clinton Derangement Syndrome" ever was. Obama's sent the wingnuts into complete meltdown, just by BEING the president. I mean, this started before the inauguration! It's not like they're reacting to anything he's actually DONE, they're just reacting to his existence. It's insane

I've really tried to watch that drivel called the obama deception that oladegbu uses to spam the forum but I have a very low tolerance for paranoid raving. spooky music and phrases like "New World Order", "Military-Industrial Complex", "Shadow Government", "Banking Elite", etc. (the last two, at least, being codewords for "Jews"--the all time boogey man for the racist, neo-nazis n all) making it seem like the X-Files, scooby-doo, and a satanic panic all rolled into one. Below is link to point-by-point debunking of that drivel of a video for starters:

http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/alex-jones/the-obama-deception/

the other utterly insane claims like the video in this thread are better not to even waste never to be regained time and energy discussing about for want of drastically reducing the intellectual standard of discussion topics in this forum. lets leave all that crap for the mostly uneducated, bigoted, racist and ignorant white hicks down south, abeg
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by thehomer: 8:39pm On Aug 04, 2010
Tonye-t:

if you are against the use of the backward technology or rewind technology, whatabout declaring a whole month for homosexuals to celebrate their 'lifestyle'. . . it that christian-like? especially for someone who claims to be a christian, will any true christian in his right mind declare such a thing? lets hear what you have to say about that Mr.Homer.  embarassed

I'm just curious here, are you in support of the use of reverse speech? Do you really think it actually contains some hidden messages?

The declaration does not affect non-homosexuals in any way. Do you think it would have been better for him to declare a month of murdering homosexuals as a way of demonstrating his "True Christianity"? It would be a good idea if you remember that that declaration was made as the President of the US not as the chief "True Christian".

Something similar has been declared in the past and the I don't recall the noise generated being this much. The person who declared it was not labeled an anti-christ or a "non-True Christian".
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by 4Play(m): 8:41pm On Aug 04, 2010
Very sad bunch you lot are.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Nobody: 9:26pm On Aug 04, 2010
Olaadegbu and those who agree with his delusions ought to be locked up in a room with a pack of wild african dogs.
I really would love to see them pray their way out of that!!!!!!!! grin
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:58am On Aug 05, 2010
Martian:

Olaadegbu and those who agree with his delusions ought to be locked up in a room with a pack of wild african dogs.
I really would love to see them pray their way out of that!!!!!!!! grin

This language reminds me of the conspiracy made against Daniel who refused to abide by the edict of the king.  We all know what happened to the lions' teeth and claws and, for your information, we would have been raptured by the time you receive your orders to begin to haunt down all those who refuse to worship your hero and, if you continue in the spirit using you now don't be supprised to be recruited into the vigilante army assigned to haunt down the "haters" who missed the boat.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:09am On Aug 05, 2010
This is an experiment anyone can embark on to find out whether there is more to this claim, but folks do not want to be confused with the facts because their minds are already made up. Below is another test carried out by someone else using other words.

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Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by thehomer: 6:56am On Aug 05, 2010
OLAADEGBU:

This is an experiment anyone can embark on to find out whether there is more to this claim, but folks do not want to be confused with the facts because their minds are already made up. Below is another test carried out by someone else using other words.

How was the test carried out? If it was by reverse speech, see my previous post. I notice that you're trying to ignore the fact that reverse speech is meaningless. Presenting lots of meaningless arguments/videos does not make your position any stronger.
If you're actually searching for evidence, I've put up some links for you to review on my previous post for you to come to your own conclusion.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:10pm On Aug 05, 2010
thehomer:

How was the test carried out? If it was by reverse speech, see my previous post. I notice that you're trying to ignore the fact that reverse speech is meaningless. Presenting lots of meaningless arguments/videos does not make your position any stronger.
If you're actually searching for evidence, I've put up some links for you to review on my previous post for you to come to your own conclusion.

It may be meaningless to you, do you even believe in the existence of God, the supernatural or satan? If you don't then it would be a waste of time pressing your point here. My aim here is to alert Christians who are ignorant of the devices of satan, and it is up to them if they consider this a coincidence or a fact.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by omofat: 2:51pm On Aug 05, 2010
@OP - Joblessness is a sin o
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by thehomer: 4:51pm On Aug 05, 2010
OLAADEGBU:

It may be meaningless to you, do you even believe in the existence of God, the supernatural or satan?  If you don't then it would be a waste of time pressing your point here.

Belief in your God or any other Gods does not make you more rational.

OLAADEGBU:

My aim here is to alert Christians who are ignorant of the devices of satan, and it is up to them if they consider this a coincidence or a fact.

Attempting to alert Christians using false means is a bad thing. It is equivalent to lying to them and others to get them to agree with you. This is a bad thing and can send you to your hell.
If you wish to convince them, it would be better for you to use good evidence unless you know that such evidence is unavailable and this has made you resort to using falsehoods.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by debosky(m): 5:17pm On Aug 05, 2010
What would be interesting is for Ola himself to record his voice saying 'Yes we can', play it backwards and see if he's also saying Thank You Satan.

That would be an interesting experiment. cheesy

As for the whole 'reverse' speech thing, I don't buy it. We've heard different stories about playing tapes in reverse and hearing other things and I find it dubious.


As far as I'm concerned, this is on the same level as seeing the face of Jesus on a biscuit or seeing elephants in the clouds. I doubt it's reliability and it has not received scientific approval by linguistics experts, so with due respect noetic16, this isn't 'researched reality'.

I do have a question for Ola though - you and the author (by emphasising on Hussein) have claimed Obama is a Muslim. Can you clarify whether he is a Muslim or a Satan worshipper or both?

Thanks.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by omofat: 5:20pm On Aug 05, 2010
debosky:

What would be interesting is for Ola himself to record his voice saying 'Yes we can', play it backwards and see if he's also saying Thank You Satan.

That would be an interesting experiment. cheesy

As for the whole 'reverse' speech thing, I don't buy it. We've heard different stories about playing tapes in reverse and hearing other things and I find it dubious.


As far as I'm concerned, this is on the same level as seeing the face of Jesus on a biscuit or seeing elephants in the clouds. I doubt it's reliability and it has not received scientific approval by linguistics experts, so with due respect noetic16, this isn't 'researched reality'.

I do have a question for Ola though - you and the author (by emphasising on Hussein) have claimed Obama is a Muslim. Can you clarify whether he is a Muslim or a Satan worshipper or both?

Thanks.

Ahh Mr Debosky - You dont understand how these people think. Thats an easy one,

He will tell you that they are the same - that muslims are satan worshippers. And he will say it with a straight face without any sense of irony.

Their hypocrisy and lack of understanding is outstanding!
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:11am On Aug 06, 2010
thehomer:

Belief in your God or any other Gods does not make you more rational.

There is only one God, the Creator of heaven and earth, all other gods are false gods. God created man in His own image, and man has been returning the favour ever since. undecided  The fact that you don't believe in God is an evidence that you believe He exists and that you don't believe in Him, God doesn't believe in atheists either for if there were no God there will be no atheists.

thehomer:

Attempting to alert Christians using false means is a bad thing. It is equivalent to lying to them and others to get them to agree with you. This is a bad thing and can send you to your hell.
If you wish to convince them, it would be better for you to use good evidence unless you know that such evidence is unavailable and this has made you resort to using falsehoods.

If you don't know the truth how will you know a lie?  You don't know where you originated from, you don't know the purpose of your existence here on earth and you do not know where you are going after you die so tell me what is your basis of discerning the truth from a lie since you don't believe in the source of truth?

All I asked is for you to conduct a simple experiment as posted in the OP and share your conclusions or move on if you've got nothing to share except you are bent on campaigning for your master.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:24am On Aug 06, 2010
debosky:

What would be interesting is for Ola himself to record his voice saying 'Yes we can', play it backwards and see if he's also saying Thank You Satan.
That would be an interesting experiment. cheesy

The task in the OP is a simple one, use the speech of your hero in the experiment and share what you get.

debosky:

As for the whole 'reverse' speech thing, I don't buy it. We've heard different stories about playing tapes in reverse and hearing other things and I find it dubious.

You don't have to buy it, try it!

debosky:

As far as I'm concerned, this is on the same level as seeing the face of Jesus on a biscuit or seeing elephants in the clouds. I doubt it's reliability and it has not received scientific approval by linguistics experts, so with due respect noetic16, this isn't 'researched reality'.

If you've tried it and it doesn't work then discard it.

debosky:

I do have a question for Ola though - you and the author (by emphasising on Hussein) have claimed Obama is a Muslim. Can you clarify whether he is a Muslim or a Satan worshipper or both?

Thanks.

I also wonder whether he is also a socialist, or could he be all of the above? Your guess is as good as mine. wink
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:58am On Aug 06, 2010
omo~fat:

Ahh Mr Debosky - You dont understand how these people think. Thats an easy one,

He will tell you that they are the same - that muslims are satan worshippers. And he will say it with a straight face without any sense of irony.

Their hypocrisy and lack of understanding is outstanding!

You said it, not me.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. -- (2 Thess. 2:11-12 The Evidence Bible).

If sinners refuse to truly embrace the gospel, God in His righteousness will give them over to "powerful delusion" and a "depraved mind" (Romans 1:28 The Evidence Bible). Those who refuse to come to the light will be given over to darkness.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Nobody: 6:02am On Aug 06, 2010
so tell me - is america listening?

are churches of satan springing up every where

or are lone rangers from youtube able to stop the tide cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:47pm On Aug 06, 2010
oyb:

so tell me - is america listening?

are churches of satan springing up every where

or are lone rangers from youtube able to stop the tide cheesy cheesy cheesy

You haven't answered us this question, do you believe that Obama is a Muslim? don't do an "al taqiyya" on us.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Nobody: 12:56pm On Aug 06, 2010
no

is that too hard for your youtube info addled brain to comprehend?

did you actually need me to say that?

have you seen any muslim equivalents to you spamming the boards with obama is muslim threads


perhaps obama's family are actually secret muslims

have you ever given a thougt to how ridiculous you sound?

it is because of the bigots you are blindly following that obama referred to himself as barry obama when in college
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Nobody: 12:57pm On Aug 06, 2010
bizarre nonsense

sad how fundamentalists can be manipulated by racists
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:01pm On Aug 06, 2010
@oyb,

If your answer is no tell us then, when he renounced Islam and to what religion or ideology he now ascribes to?
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by noetic16(m): 2:05pm On Aug 06, 2010
omo~fat:

Ahh Mr Debosky - You dont understand how these people think. Thats an easy one,

He will tell you that they are the same - that muslims are satan worshippers. And he will say it with a straight face without any sense of irony.

Their hypocrisy and lack of understanding is outstanding!


the way u spew out ignorance is quite alarming. who is the "islamic arabic allah" research shows that allah is an arabian idol with three daughters and a wife. allah is a pagan god worshipped by mohammed's father long before mohammed was born.

In lieu of this, it is safe to state that allah or islam is literal satanism. islamic allah and satan are the same person.
To suggest otherwise is to be ignorant of history and facts.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by noetic16(m): 2:07pm On Aug 06, 2010
debosky:

What would be interesting is for Ola himself to record his voice saying 'Yes we can', play it backwards and see if he's also saying Thank You Satan.

That would be an interesting experiment.  cheesy

As for the whole 'reverse' speech thing, I don't buy it. We've heard different stories about playing tapes in reverse and hearing other things and I find it dubious.


As far as I'm concerned, this is on the same level as seeing the face of Jesus on a biscuit or seeing elephants in the clouds. I doubt it's reliability and it has not received scientific approval by linguistics experts, so with due respect noetic16, this isn't 'researched reality'.

I do have a question for Ola though - you and the author (by emphasising on Hussein) have claimed Obama is a Muslim. Can you clarify whether he is a Muslim or a Satan worshipper or both? 

Thanks.

how objective are your submissions? you dismiss the evidence provided on the basis of what?
what stops you from conducting an independent research on this voice technique, use your own voice and present your findings. To dismiss the OP's submission without a superior argument backed by facts is just an attempt at folly.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by thehomer: 3:41pm On Aug 06, 2010
OLAADEGBU:

There is only one God, the Creator of heaven and earth, all other gods are false gods. God created man in His own image, and man has been returning the favour ever since. undecided 

All you're doing here is presenting your own religious dogma. This really does not help your point in any way.

OLAADEGBU:

The fact that you don't believe in God is an evidence that you believe He exists and that you don't believe in Him, God doesn't believe in atheists either for if there were no God there will be no atheists.

Wow this is an interesting assertion. So since I don't believe in Santa Claus does this mean I believe he exists? How about faeries? Do I believe they exist too since I don't believe in them?

OLAADEGBU:

If you don't know the truth how will you know a lie?  You don't know where you originated from, you don't know the purpose of your existence here on earth and you do not know where you are going after you die so tell me what is your basis of discerning the truth from a lie since you don't believe in the source of truth?

I know that if you arrived at the conclusion of Obama thanking Satan using the video as some sort of evidence, then that is a lie.

OLAADEGBU:

All I asked is for you to conduct a simple experiment as posted in the OP and share your conclusions or move on if you've got nothing to share except you are bent on campaigning for your master.

Such an experiment would be meaningless and I've given reasons why any results derived from such would be meaningless. It is a well described phenomenon. There is evidence to back it up.
Besides, who is my master?
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by thehomer: 3:47pm On Aug 06, 2010
noetic16:

how objective are your submissions? you dismiss the evidence provided on the basis of what?
what stops you from conducting an independent research on this voice technique, use your own voice and present your findings. To dismiss the OP's submission without a superior argument backed by facts is just an attempt at folly.

Sorry to interrupt but I've already presented evidence that reverse speech is actually not evidence.

You may wish to review my post here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-490411.0.html#msg6507504
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:28pm On Aug 06, 2010
thehomer:

All you're doing here is presenting your own religious dogma. This really does not help your point in any way.

What is your own dogma? that you created god in your image?  Some folks are used by satan and they don't know it.

thehomer:

Wow this is an interesting assertion. So since I don't believe in Santa Claus does this mean I believe he exists? How about faeries? Do I believe they exist too since I don't believe in them?

If you don't believe in the existence of God why then are you obsessed with God and the Bible?  You wouldn't be here trying to justify your ignorance all because you don't want to be accountable to Him.

thehomer:

I know that if you arrived at the conclusion of Obama thanking Satan using the video as some sort of evidence, then that is a lie.

All you need to do is to test it out and spare us of your semantics.

thehomer:

Such an experiment would be meaningless and I've given reasons why any results derived from such would be meaningless. It is a well described phenomenon. There is evidence to back it up.
Besides, who is my master?

Karl Marx, an atheist, whom most of you socialists and communist take your inspiration from said this in one of his poems:

"I wish to avenge myself against the One who rules above.  I hate all gods, I worship satan."

It is either you are ignorant of the spirit that is using you or you are just pretending, you and Karl Marx share the same passion and if you are wise you will consider your stand and reconcile with your maker.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Nobody: 5:08pm On Aug 06, 2010
OLAADEGBU:

What is your own dogma? that you created god in your image?  Some folks are used by satan and they don't know it.

My brother u might be right with this. Satan can use any tactics to lead anyone astray
OLAADEGBU:

If you don't believe in the existence of God why then are you obsessed with God and the Bible?  You wouldn't be here trying to justify your ignorance all because you don't want to be accountable to Him.

I ve heard this couple of times. sometimes when people keep hammering on a subject it could be as a result of  obsession. The way some folks[b](other than the theists[/b]) like to talk about God's existence or otherwise shows how obsessed they are about him

IMO
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by Jephyard(m): 5:26pm On Aug 06, 2010
I WILL NOT DOUBT THAT, IT MAY BE THAT SATAN REVEAL TO HIM IN THE DREAM THE WAY HE WANTS TO ATTACK HI SO HE C[color=#006600][/color]AN EASILY PRAY ABOUT IT AND DEFEAT HIM.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by thehomer: 9:01pm On Aug 06, 2010
OLAADEGBU:

What is your own dogma? that you created god in your image? Some folks are used by satan and they don't know it.

I have no religious dogma because I make a conscious effort to educate myself. If I find out with a good reason that I was wrong about something, I would change my mind.

OLAADEGBU:

If you don't believe in the existence of God why then are you obsessed with God and the Bible? You wouldn't be here trying to justify your ignorance all because you don't want to be accountable to Him.

I'm not obsessed with God, [b]you [/b]are. You may check your own previous posts if you doubt me.

OLAADEGBU:

All you need to do is to test it out and spare us of your semantics.

I already pointed out with evidence that playing reverse speech is not evidence of anything meaningful.

OLAADEGBU:

Karl Marx, an atheist, whom most of you socialists and communist take your inspiration from said this in one of his poems:

"I wish to avenge myself against the One who rules above. I hate all gods, I worship satan."

Wow you're quite the quote miner. What's the relevance of the above? How do you know I'm a socialist or communist? How do you know he inspires me? You see such rhetoric is part of the problem we see in discussions. It's usually employed by people who actually have nothing to say and are grasping at straws.

OLAADEGBU:

It is either you are ignorant of the spirit that is using you or you are just pretending, you and Karl Marx share the same passion and if you are wise you will consider your stand and reconcile with your maker.

And if you were wise, you would learn to steer clear of using lies to propagate your religious opinion.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by debosky(m): 9:21pm On Aug 06, 2010
noetic16:

how objective are your submissions? you dismiss the evidence provided on the basis of what?
what stops you from conducting an independent research on this voice technique, use your own voice and present your findings. To dismiss the OP's submission without a superior argument backed by facts is just an attempt at folly.

Very objective - the experts in linguistics have already debunked the so called 'reverse speech' theories.

I am not making any claims that Obama is thanking Satan, so if the OP is so confident in this reverse speech, let him use his own voice and determine what his 'reverse message' is.

The superior argument has already been made by thehomer and his links, I don't need further proof thanks.
Re: Obama Thanks Satan, Could This Be True? by debosky(m): 9:25pm On Aug 06, 2010
OLAADEGBU:

The task in the OP is a simple one, use the speech of your hero in the experiment and share what you get.

Hehehe. . . sounds like you're scared to me. Why not do the test yourself since you are convinced of it's veracity? cheesy


I also wonder whether he is also a socialist, or could he be all of the above? Your guess is as good as mine. wink

I'm not the one making labels here - that is your forte, so kindly give us your opinion.

PS - He isn't my hero, he's a politician who wanted office and has gotten it. The 'attacks' we are seeing are simply by those who feel Obama should not be president and have been going on for ages. That an additional twist of 'satanism' has been added is not surprising. Being a Muslim obviously wasn't sufficient to give him a bad name. grin

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