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Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 5:17pm On Dec 18, 2018
I just came across a thread which pointed out what happened to my Honda EOD customs paper which was later confirmed to must have been forged by the dealer.

The thread is https://www.nairaland.com/4798019/distress-sale-2017-honda-accord/1 and below is what I contributed to it for others to learn from.

Dantedasz:


This was even a comment I made in passing over the weekend,only for my mentions time line to start blowing up yesterday.
Some of us know that most of these vehicles have no customs duty paid. What they attach to the sales is forged machined outside entries or recycled entries which is the process by which one document is used for numerous vehicles of the same make.
So because some of us decided to stop posting on the autos section because of fraud does it mean it is not going on?
Where were these guys when we were battling inspiredm and chelseabmw on these boards years ago?
Those opposed to my posts know why they are doing it.

I'm a victim of the bolded on my 2005 Honda accord that was sold to me by Oloruntobi Motors Specialty Limited which is by the road side along Lagos/Abeokuta Express Way at Lagos State Low Cost Housing Estate Enterance gate. Meiran Ojokoro, Lagos.

They've still not resolved my ordeal let alone compensate me; you can save these their numbers to be sure you are not
buying any vehicle from them to avoid being proned to fraud. Their numbers are 09098064935(Mr James) who lives and also has car lot at Abule Egba in Lagos, 08023235192(Mr Jerry), 08028306710(Mr Fatai), 09095491881(their boy with nairaland username icedre that posted the vehicle on auto section https://www.nairaland.com/3022535/sold-sold-honda-accord-2005 ) and 08099916782(one old man). Their other number is 08126189059! !!

My car almost got seized outrightly by Nigeria customs after Ibadan on my way to Osogbo on October 12th 2018 or so but I thank God that I was able to scale through after over six(6) hours delay.

Please do check your customs paper critically because this kind of fraud won't be easily detected. Also share your experience if you've also been caught up in this mess; who knows who might end up reading this update let alone who will be saved from such fraud.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 5:23pm On Dec 18, 2018
The thread is here Dantedasz.

I will be attaching the customs paper that they gave to me when I was ignorant of the need and how to check customs papers, the one that I later printed from customs database and the original one that they forged (they mistakenly sent it to me when I pressurized them to give me the original copy of my document which they only photocopied and gave to me. It was the one that revealed and confirmed the atrocities that they did/performed).

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by Dantedasz: 7:30pm On Dec 18, 2018
Thanks for mentioning me. I have been one of those fighting against fake customs papers on this forum. I have stated it severally on these boards that lots of advertised vehicles have fake customs documents. I have been opposed severally by the fraudsters because to most of them I exposing secrets of their trade.
You are not the only one who has fallen victim of this fraudulent activity and you are very lucky that your vehicle was not confiscated because ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
My sincere advise to anyone buying a car on these boards is to first of all demand for the customs entry or SGD(single goods declaration) form.
This form is supposed to carry the details of a single good or a single vehicle or a single container but because of their fraudulent activity the clearing agents add additional items on the form to an extent an SGD entry may carry as many as four or five cars! (I will talk about that later).
Anyway the first step is once you see your SGD entry try and locate the C number. Each customs command such as Apapa,Tin can or Lilypond has its own area code. Like AP or TC followed by a number in figures and the date of the day the entry was registered in the customs data systems.
Beware that NO two SGD forms can have the same number and if the have the same number the alphabets representing the command can not be the same. However if the are two SGD forms with the same number,they can never have the same date .
Do your SGD entry will have a C number like this
TC/1 20 of 28/12/18.


What these numbers mean is that
TC/1---the name of the customs area in this case Tim Can Island Port.
20 represents the twentieth entry processed into the system on the day in question while 28/12/18 represents the date of processing.

So the C number on each SGD represents -1. The customs area command code.
2.The number of the SGD for the day in this case the 20th document treated on that day.
3. Finally the date the SGD was treated and processed into the customs data systems. The date in this case is 28/12/18.

So from this little explanation you can see that two SGD forms can NEVER have a similar number because the alphabets can not be the same. The number in sequence of the day may be similar but the date cannot be similar.
So when legalwealth posts the SGD given to him for his vehicle I will point out these details and go further with my explanations.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 7:44pm On Dec 18, 2018
Dantedasz:
Thanks for mentioning me. I have been one of those fighting against fake customs papers on this forum. I have stated it severally on these boards that lots of advertised vehicles have fake customs documents. I have been opposed severally by the fraudsters because to most of them I exposing secrets of their trade.
You are not the only one who has fallen victim of this fraudulent activity and you are very lucky that your vehicle was not confiscated because ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

You are welcome and I know of the bolded.

Thanks and keep up the good works; it is better to let people know for it is always a painful and stressful experience of which ones vehicle could end being seized outrightly if one does not meet favor at that instance/moment. I couldn't imagine my EOD which has been upgraded to worth like 2M be seized outrightly although I missed out on what I was going to do at Osogbo that day which I left Lagos as early as 9 a.m for.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by FLAKARIBE(m): 8:29pm On Dec 18, 2018
with my popcorn and zobo, following closely Op go on, I dey hear gist. so what happened next?
Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by Dantedasz: 8:39pm On Dec 18, 2018
legalwealth:


You are welcome and I know of the bolded.

Thanks and keep up the good works; it is better to let people know for it is always a painful and stressful experience of which ones vehicle could end being seized outrightly if one does not meet favor at that instance/moment. I couldn't imagine my EOD which has been upgraded to worth like 2M be seized outrightly although I missed out on what I was going to do at Osogbo that day which I left Lagos as early as 9 a.m for.

This is a fake documents issue similar to your case you may want to read up on it. A very long thread with a lot of posts hidden because the moderator of that year was in cahoots with the inspiredm guy,who was also a former moderator.

https://www.nairaland.com/2398436/horrible-experience-inspired-autos#35051073
Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 8:46pm On Dec 18, 2018
Dantedasz:
Thanks for mentioning me. I have been one of those fighting against fake customs papers on this forum. I have stated it severally on these boards that lots of advertised vehicles have fake customs documents. I have been opposed severally by the fraudsters because to most of them I exposing secrets of their trade.
You are not the only one who has fallen victim of this fraudulent activity and you are very lucky that your vehicle was not confiscated because ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
My sincere advise to anyone buying a car on these boards is to first of all demand for the customs entry or SGD(single goods declaration) form.
This form is supposed to carry the details of a single good or a single vehicle or a single container but because of their fraudulent activity the clearing agents add additional items on the form to an extent an SGD entry may carry as many as four or five cars! (I will talk about that later).
Anyway the first step is once you see your SGD entry try and locate the C number. Each customs command such as Apapa,Tin can or Lilypond has its own area code. Like AP or TC followed by a number in figures and the date of the day the entry was registered in the customs data systems.
Beware that NO two SGD forms can have the same number and if the have the same number the alphabets representing the command can not be the same. However if the are two SGD forms with the same number,they can never have the same date .
Do your SGD entry will have a C number like this
TC/1 20 of 28/12/18.


What these numbers mean is that
TC/1---the name of the customs area in this case Tim Can Island Port.
20 represents the twentieth entry processed into the system on the day in question while 28/12/18 represents the date of processing.

So the C number on each SGD represents -1. The customs area command code.
2.The number of the SGD for the day in this case the 20th document treated on that day.
3. Finally the date the SGD was treated and processed into the customs data systems. The date in this case is 28/12/18.

So from this little explanation you can see that two SGD forms can NEVER have a similar number because the alphabets can not be the same. The number in sequence of the day may be similar but the date cannot be similar.
So when legalwealth posts the SGD given to him for his vehicle I will point out these details and go further with my explanations.

Thanks for the additional enlightenment; I will surely post the documents.
Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by COOLDK(m): 12:02am On Dec 19, 2018
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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by 9icetoo(m): 1:33am On Dec 19, 2018
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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by Dantedasz: 7:59am On Dec 19, 2018
In addition to my last post it is recommended that before a buyer pays any money for a vehicle,Please request for a photocopy of the SGD documents. These SGD document is supposed to contain all customs issues relating to the vehicle being purchased,including the vehicle descriptions,the vehicle Chassis and engine number,the colour of the vehicle the rate of duty and the duty paid. To cut the story short the SGD is meant to contain all essential details of the vehicle in question.
In reality this should work out fine because armed with the SGD number any buyer should be able to visit any customs command (linked to the customs data base)and easily confirm payments on any SGD entry.
The bitter truth is buyers are usually lazy and refuse to study documents given to them by sellers and of course the sellers capitalise on this and perpetrate their fraud. We will come to this later.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 8:47am On Dec 19, 2018
Dantedasz:
In addition to my last post it is recommended that before a buyer pays any money for a vehicle,Please request for a photocopy of the SGD documents. These SGD document is supposed to contain all customs issues relating to the vehicle being purchased,including the vehicle descriptions,the vehicle Chassis and engine number,the colour of the vehicle the rate of duty and the duty paid. To cut the story short the SGD is meant to contain all essential details of the vehicle in question.
In reality this should work out fine because armed with the SGD number any buyer should be able to visit any customs command (linked to the customs data base)and easily confirm payments on any SGD entry.
The bitter truth is buyers are usually lazy and refuse to study documents given to them by sellers and of course the sellers capitalise on this and perpetrate their fraud. We will come to this later.

Great but it could be stressful though. But with my awful experience regarding customs paper, I've been able to know how to confirm and receive the copy of the customs paper printed from customs database without leaving my house.

As a matter of fact, I just requested for customs details of a vehicles that I'm interested in just few minutes ago.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by Dantedasz: 8:52am On Dec 19, 2018
legalwealth:


Great but it could be stressful though. But with my awful experience regarding customs paper, I've been able to know how to confirm and receive the copy of the customs paper printed from customs database without leaving my house.

As a matter of fact, I just requested for customs details of a vehicles that I'm interested in just few minutes ago.

I guess once bitten,twice shy. grin
Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 9:24am On Dec 19, 2018
Dantedasz:


I guess once bitten,twice shy. grin


Exactly! !!
Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 2:02pm On Dec 19, 2018
Below are the customs documents that they used to sell the car! !!

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by Almaiga: 3:51pm On Dec 19, 2018
make i follow this thread bumper to bumper.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by double3(m): 4:31pm On Dec 19, 2018
legalwealth:


Great but it could be stressful though. But with my awful experience regarding customs paper, I've been able to know how to confirm and receive the copy of the customs paper printed from customs database without leaving my house.

As a matter of fact, I just requested for customs details of a vehicles that I'm interested in just few minutes ago.
Please can you kindly enlighten us on how to confirm the authenticity of such docs.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 4:57pm On Dec 19, 2018
double3:

Please can you kindly enlighten us on how to confirm the authenticity of such docs.

Best thing is to go to nearby customs office with the C-number, where it was cleared and the date it was processed.

Ask them to print it out for you if you can and compare every details will the one the car seller or dealer will give or has given to you.

Also make sure that full amount of the custom duty or reason amount is paid which you can ask for the assistance of any custom officer

to help you evaluate.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 9:25pm On Dec 19, 2018
Those downloaded from customs database using the C-numbers on the document they gave of which one is invalid and the other valid are coming soon.
Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by calculation(m): 9:41pm On Dec 19, 2018
Am in for this eye opener

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by Dantedasz: 10:40am On Dec 20, 2018
legalwealth:
Those downloaded from customs database using the C-numbers on the document they gave of which one is invalid and the other valid are coming soon.

I have talked about this on the autos section but the fraudsters and those who feel they are the owners of the section (because they feel that they have monopoly of knowledge)shouted me down.
Looking at the papers presented by the OP this is a clear case of recycled SGD entries. This is the process whereby an SGD entry used years ago by an importer is obtained. The SGD is then photocopied severally till it becomes faint. The details of the vehicle (s) on the original documents are then replaced/substituted with the details of the new vehicle.
The implications of this is that whenever the C number of this document is checked in the customs data base it will show that the C number exists but the payment is not for your car. In fact hardened fraudsters have been known to substitute the C number of a container for a car or the c number of group importations from the airport for cars. So the onus is on the buyer to insist on visiting a customs command and obtaining a PRINT OUT of any SGD entry given to you in your own interest.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by Dantedasz: 10:45am On Dec 20, 2018
There is a Servicom section in all customs commands that are connected to the data base. Visit there to confirm your vehicle duty SGD C number. Preferably take time to do it yourself and obtain a PRINT OUT. A word is enough for a wise man.

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 11:55am On Dec 20, 2018
Dantedasz:


I have talked about this on the autos section but the fraudsters and those who feel they are the owners of the section (because they feel that they have monopoly of knowledge)shouted me down.
Looking at the papers presented by the OP this is a clear case of recycled SGD entries. This is the process whereby an SGD entry used years ago by an importer is obtained. The SGD is then photocopied severally till it becomes faint. The details of the vehicle (s) on the original documents are then replaced/substituted with the details of the new vehicle.
The implications of this is that whenever the C number of this document is checked in the customs data base it will show that the C number exists but the payment is not for your car. In fact hardened fraudsters have been known to substitute the C number of a container for a car or the c number of group importations from the airport for cars. So the onus is on the buyer to insist on visiting a customs command and obtaining a PRINT OUT of any SGD entry given to you in your own interest.

That is exactly what I now do and I'm advising; you print it out and critically compare it with that which you are given.
Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 11:56am On Dec 20, 2018
Dantedasz:
There is a [b]Servicom section in all customs commands [/b]that are connected to the data base. Visit there to confirm your vehicle duty SGD C number. Preferably take time to do it yourself and obtain a PRINT OUT. A word is enough for a wise man.

You are very correct; I've once entered and been to that of customs command at Bodija in Ibadan.
Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by maskennykenny: 12:03pm On Dec 20, 2018
What does the c number represent
Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by mayorall(m): 2:36pm On Dec 20, 2018
Naxo one nairalander too sold me Lexus RX330 last August too.

I was not that bothered cos I was introduced to him by another nairalander whom I trust.

I asked him severally if the paper is genuine and he said yes, the other man too said I shouldn't worry he's his person.


In less than 24hours I bought the vehicle, custom also stopped me at same location along Ibadan-Osogbo after Ikire.


I alighted and formed jagaban being my first time cos I have never being stopped on my big daddy for many years.

They requested for my documents, I showed them, they said that it's fake, Jesu, I spoilt mouth, I vex.

I called the dealer he kept on saying it's genuine that they just want to obtain me. Naxo my own agidi too enter gear 5.

The officers said they won't talk to me unless the dealer confessed.

He was begging custom on phone but kept on telling me the paper is genuine.

The brilliant officer told me to put the phone on speaker and I heard the dealer clearly confessing that the documents ain't genune, he told him to confess again that the vehicle came in via land border and he did...my head got a strange sound...motto of 3 point milla..


The custom officer returned us on close to an your journey back to Ibadan, on our way to their office,


They stopped us opposite their office asking for 1m. I told the dealer I will abandon the vehicle and enter Lagos to get back my fund.. I heard lots of name for vehicles on this day

January- 100k

February - 200k


To cut the long story short, . The dealer paid the money and vehicle was released.



On getting to Lagos, the guy started running away from me, for three weeks, I couldn't see him, different excuses.


I carry Soldier go meet am but with tolotolo mind, I dey beg soldier say nah civil case, make them just warn am.


He collected Bill of lading and promised to fix the custom payment


I didn't see anything, he later called me that I am to pay some amounts from the payment which I declined...

I reported it at nearest station... The police were saying I should help him to pay 200k from the fee too... "after naira had exchanged hands"


They started turning against me, I told them the said paper is not possible since vehicle came via land border. Nobody was ready to listen.. I called my sister who is a chief superintendent of police. She called them and they started getting scared of me.


He later promised to get it fixed... after a month, he came up with another fake paper that is on custom system but not on manifest, I declined..


At the end of the day, after 4 months of cruising Lexus RX330, I got back my fund. I told him to go away with 200k though

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Re: Read Why & How My Car Almost Got Seized By Customs Because Of These Car Sellers by legalwealth(m): 4:09pm On Dec 20, 2018
mayorall:
Naxo one nairalander too sold me Lexus RX330 last August too.

I was not that bothered cos I was introduced to him by another nairalander whom I trust.

I asked him severally if the paper is genuine and he said yes, the other man too said I shouldn't worry he's his person.


In less than 24hours, custom also stopped me at same location along Ibadan-Osogbo after Ikire.


I slighted and formed being my first time cos I have never being stopped on my big daddy for many years.

They requested for my documents, I showed them, that time me it's fake, Jesu, I spoilt mouth, I vex.

I called the dealer he kept on saying it's genuine that they just want to obtain me. Naxo my own agidi too enter gear 5.

The officers said they won't talk to me unless the dealer confessed.

He was begging custom on phone but kept on telling me the paper is genuine.

The brilliant officer told me to put the phone on speaker and I heard the dealer clearly confessing that the documents ain't genune, he told him to confess again that the vehicle came in via land border and he did...my head got a strange sound...motto of 3 point milla..


The custom officer returned us on close to an your journey back to Ibadan, on our way to their office,


They stopped us opposite their office asking for 1m. I told the dealer I will abandon the vehicle and enter Lagos to get back my fund.. I heard lots of name for vehicles on this day

January- 100k

February - 200k


To cut the long story short, . The dealer paid the money and vehicle was released.



On getting to Lagos, the guy started running away from me, for three weeks, I couldn't see him, different excuses.


I carry Soldier go meet am but with tolotolo mind, I dey beg soldier say nah civil case, make them just warn am.


He collected Bill of lading and promised to fix the custom payment


I didn't see anything, he later called me that I am to pay some amounts from the payment which I declined...

I reported it at nearest station... The police were saying I should help him to pay 200k from the fee too... "after naira had exchanged hands"


They started turning against me, I told them the said paper is not possible since vehicle came via land border. Nobody was ready to listen.. I called my sister who is a chief superintendent of police. She called them and they started getting scared of me.


He later promised to get it fixed... after a month, he came up with another fake paper that is on custom system but not on manifest, I declined..


At the end of the day, after 4 months o cruising Lexus RX330, I got back my fund. I told him to go away with 200k though

Did he give you the money you paid for the vehicle back in full despite you have registered the said vehicle?

You shouldn't have given him the 200k for it is a sure thing that they will do another fake document.

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