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My Journey To Freethinking by raptex(m): 3:23pm On Dec 21, 2018
It all started as a quest to know God more (I'm still on that quest).I'd pray to God to reveal himself and for the holy spirit. I started reading the bible more than before. I noticed many cringe- worthy stories but I'd brush them aside because I was taught never to question God. Our Pastors, churches and the Nigerian society at large do not encourage rational questions and thinking.

I started to use the internet more frequently.I discovered Nairaland and started reading as a guest. I'd see posts about Daddy freeze challenging respected "Men of God" on issues they avoid in church. It became clear to me that most of them are thieves. I discovered that the bible was inconsistent and full of errors. I discovered that a lot of books that expose the bible for what it is have been removed to keep people enslaved.I started reading thought- provoking posts on Nairaland. Posts from people like Hardmirror,CAPSLOCKED, Joseph1013, Seun and so on.This forum has helped me in a lot of ways.

I still go to church to please my parents and so as not to arouse suspicion.I see Church these days only as a center for comic relief.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by raptex(m): 3:30pm On Dec 21, 2018
People in my church and hood still call me pastor cos of my easy- going nature ( I rarely talk to anyone).

My next step is to find God because I still strongly believe in him.I believe the universe and all living things could not have created themselves.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by matrix199(m): 3:57pm On Dec 21, 2018
The evidence of God's existence lies in science and technology.



Look no further, God truly manifests himself through science and technology.


Just think about it, isn't it unbelievable that two or more callers who are thousands of kilometres away can actually have a conversation like they're all sitting on the same bench?



To me, that's a concrete evidence of God's existence, unlike fictional tales of his existence.
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 4:02pm On Dec 21, 2018
raptex:
It all started as a quest to know God more (I'm still on that quest).I'd pray to God to reveal himself and for the holy spirit. I started reading the bible more than before. I noticed many cringe- worthy stories but I'd brush them aside because I was taught never to question God. Our Pastors, churches and the Nigerian society at large do not encourage rational questions and thinking.

I started to use the internet more frequently.I discovered Nairaland and started reading as a guest. I'd see posts about Daddy freeze challenging respected "Men of God" on issues they avoid in church. It became clear to me that most of them are thieves. I discovered that the bible was inconsistent and full of errors. I discovered that a lot of books that expose the bible for what it is have been removed to keep people enslaved.I started reading thought- provoking posts on Nairaland. Posts from people like Hardmirror,CAPSLOCKED, Joseph1013, Seun and so on.This forum has helped me in a lot of ways.

I still go to church to please my parents and so as not to arouse suspicion.I see Church these days only as a center for comic relief.



Children of God,

I hope you are seeing this?

When a masturbator, fornicator liar, and a sexual pervert convinced a theist to become an atheist,

You should know what is really at play here.

They are the ones questioning God's holiness and authority...

A child of God who lives his life for Christ in holiness and righteousness (or striving to attain these) will then listen to them ....


....and then become converted by them...

The Devil is a liar and the Father of it.

Beware, children of God.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by raptex(m): 4:04pm On Dec 21, 2018
matrix199:
The evidence of God's existence lies in science and technology.
Details please?
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by raptex(m): 4:11pm On Dec 21, 2018
matrix199:
The evidence of God's existence lies in science and technology.



Look no further, God truly manifests himself through science and technology.


Just think about it, isn't it unbelievable that two or more callers who are thousands of kilometres away can actually have a conversation like they're all sitting on the same bench?



To me, that's a concrete evidence of God's existence, unlike fictional tales of his existence.



Is this a joke? How can a phone call be an evidence of God's existence? Come on, a man like you invented the telephone!

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 4:12pm On Dec 21, 2018
It is all planned.

Comments and counter comments.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by raptex(m): 4:16pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:


It is all planned.

Comments and counter comments.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Ranchhoddas: 4:20pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:

It is all planned.
Comments and counter comments.
You are becoming paranoid.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by luvmijeje(f): 4:21pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:


It is all planned.

Comments and counter comments.

Whether it's planned or not is irrelevant. You have no evidence to prove him wrong. If you do, provide it.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 4:26pm On Dec 21, 2018
luvmijeje:


Whether it's planned or not is irrelevant. You have no evidence to prove him wrong. If you do, provide it.


I don't have any evidence to prove his conviction wrong.

It is his conviction, not mine.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by luvmijeje(f): 4:34pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:


I don't have any evidence to prove his conviction wrong.

It is his conviction, not mine.

The way you shut down someone who's logical is to be logical with them.

You quote scripture to those who believes in the scripture.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by budaatum: 4:34pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:


I don't have any evidence to prove his conviction wrong.

It is his conviction, not mine.
So, when you called op "a masturbator, a fornicator, a sexual pervert and a liar" was the devil not using you?

Thanks raptex for the appropriate response to satan!
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 4:38pm On Dec 21, 2018
luvmijeje:


The way you shut down someone who's logical is to be logical with them.

You quote scripture to those who believes in the scripture.

I quote the scriptures to all...and derive my argument from it.

You have two choices. Listen or leave.


While they use logic to answer questions ignorantly,

They become logical in sin...

I quote the scriptures in God's righteousness.

You cannot separate my bible from me...

It is the word of the Almighty God.

It won't work.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 4:41pm On Dec 21, 2018
budaatum:

So, when you called op "a masturbator, a fornicator, a sexual pervert and a liar" was the devil not using you?

Thanks raptex for the appropriate response to satan!

No....

Did you see one of your champions admits that

"he masturbates all day?"....

and he got five likes as at when I checked?

You don't commit atrocities and come here to dissuade people from the path of righteousness...

How do you even do that?

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by plaetton: 4:43pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:



Children of God,

I hope you are seeing this?

When a masturbator, fornicator liar, and a sexual pervert convinced a theist to become an atheist,

You should know what is really at play here.

They are the ones questioning God's holiness and authority...

A child of God who lives his life for Christ in holiness and righteousness (or striving to attain these) will then listen to them ....


....and then become converted by them...

The Devil is a liar and the Father of it.

Beware, children of God.


Funny.
Religious people are the greatest masturbators and fornicators.

Konji does not discriminate.

grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by luvmijeje(f): 4:46pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:


I quote the scriptures to all...and derive my argument from it.

You have two choices. Listen or leave.


While they use logic to answer questions ignorantly,

They become logical in sin...

I quote the scriptures in God's righteousness.

You cannot separate my bible from me...

It is the word of the Almighty God.

It won't work.


You're quoting scriptures to those who are logical, how do want to win them over or you are not interested in their soul?
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 4:53pm On Dec 21, 2018
plaetton:


Funny.
Religious people are the greatest masturbators and fornicators.

Konji does not discriminate.

grin grin grin grin grin

Religious people? yes.

There are thousands (probably not millions or billions) who have had their minds regenerated by the holy spirit.

Because of their belief in Jesus,
.
Their bodies are able to accommodate the spirit of God..

These ones don't masturbate...

They don't sin.

If the let you in on the secret of holiness, you will Marvel on what they have achieved...

They go everywhere with the consciousness of..." I don't want to sin today....holy spirit please help me"

They are forced to say the truth even when it is not convenient... until it becomes a part of them...

They end up crucifying the flesh and put it in subjection..

These ones are the elect of God...

God calls them the apple of my eye....

Evil spirits do not do near them...

A wall of fire surrounds them every second...

As polluted as the world is,

They have decides to separate themselves....

...and God gives a command concerning them...a command that is obeyed on earth and in the spiritual world...which is;

TOUCH NOT MY ANNOITED AND DO MY PROPHET NO HARM.
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 4:59pm On Dec 21, 2018
luvmijeje:


You're quoting scriptures to those who are logical, how do want to win them over or you are not interested in their soul?


Misconception about salvation.

I am not to "win anyone over"

The holy spirit does that.

If I tell you and you accept, fine...

If not, I let you be...

Jesus told Paul....

Get quickly out of Jerusalem. (Note the urgency)

These people will not hear you..(he knows their state of minds.... some minds on nairaland have been hardened


...until the day of judgement)

He continued and said..." I send you henceforth, to the gentiles "

I am not interested in winning anyone over.....Its the holy spirit who does that...


(Mark 16 )
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15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Where is it stated that I should win them over?
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by plaetton: 5:05pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:


Religious people? yes.

There are thousands (probably not millions or billions) who have had their minds regenerated by the holy spirit.

Because of their belief in Jesus,
.
Their bodies are able to accommodate the spirit of God..

These ones don't masturbate...

They don't sin.

If the let you in on the secret of holiness, you will Marvel on what they have achieved...

They go everywhere with the consciousness of..." I don't want to sin today....holy spirit please help me"

They are forced to say the truth even when it is not convenient... until it becomes a part of them...

They end up crucifying the flesh and put it in subjection..

These ones are the elect of God...

God calls them the apple of my eye....

Evil spirits do not do near them...

A wall of fire surrounds them every second...

As polluted as the world is,

They have decides to separate themselves....

...and God gives a command concerning them...a command that is obeyed on earth and in the spiritual world...which is;

TOUCH NOT MY ANNOITED AND DO MY PROPHET NO HARM.
Lol.

So you are confident and sure that believers of Jesus do not fornicate and masturbate ?
How did you come to this conclusion ?

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 5:09pm On Dec 21, 2018
plaetton:

Lol.

So you are confident and sure that believers of Jesus do not fornicate and masturbate ?
How did you come to this conclusion ?


I am not talking about believers of Jesus...


" Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. "
(Matthew 7: 21)

Those that do the Will of God do not masturbate...

Those that listen to the Holy spirit and kill the flesh do not masturbate.

Anybody can believe in Jesus.
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by raptex(m): 5:15pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:



I am not talking about believers of Jesus...


" Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. "
(Matthew 7: 21)

Those that do the Will of God do not masturbate...

Those that listen to the Holy spirit and kill the flesh do not masturbate.

Anybody can believe in Jesus.
What church do you attend?
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 5:17pm On Dec 21, 2018
I am not here to win anyone over.

I preach, and quote the Bible.

You believe, you are saved.

You don't, you are dammed.

Mark 16 that I quoted earlier says so...
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 5:19pm On Dec 21, 2018
raptex:
What church do you attend?


Don't worry yourself about it.

Worry for the salvation of your soul...

Jesus said...

"Those that do the will of my Father"

Don't worry about the church that I attend.
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by plaetton: 5:21pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:



I am not talking about believers of Jesus...


" Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. "
(Matthew 7: 21)

Those that do the Will of God do not masturbate...

Those that listen to the Holy spirit and kill the flesh do not masturbate.

Anybody can believe in Jesus.
Laughing out loud.

So basically, you're saying that just like Jesus and Yahweh, those that listen to the Holy Spirit and kill the flesh are also imaginary ?
I get you.

You know, I have said many times, . the great thing about imaginary gods, saviors and spirits is that it gives you the unlimited latitude to make up even more imaginary stuff as you go. grin grin grin grin

There exits a universe of imaginary stuff you can make up anytime it suites you.
You declare imaginary wars against imaginary enemies, and enjoy the enviable privilege of declaring VICTORY anytime it suits you.
Lucky you. grin grin grin

Its always a win win for you. wink wink

Those of us who live in the real rational world do not have such privilege. undecided

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 5:27pm On Dec 21, 2018
plaetton:

Laughing out loud.

So basically, you're saying that just like Jesus and Yahweh, those that listen to the Holy Spirit and kill the flesh are also imaginary ?
I get you.

You know, I have said many times, . the great thing about imaginary gods, saviors and spirits is that it gives you the unlimited latitude to make up even more imaginary stuff as you go. grin grin grin grin

There exits a universe of imaginary stuff you can make up anytime it suites you.
You declare imaginary wars against imaginary enemies, and enjoy the enviable privilege of declaring VICTORY anytime it suits you.
Lucky you. grin grin grin

Its always a win win for you. wink wink

Those of us who live in the real rational world do not have such privilege. undecided

Okay.
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Gideons708: 5:27pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:


I am not here to win anyone over.

I preach, and quote the Bible.

You believe, you are saved.

You don't, you are dammed.

Mark 16 that I quoted earlier says so...

Really? But you bash anyone holding a different belief from yours,yes you are not here to win anyone over,but you blackmail them emotionally. undecided

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by raptex(m): 5:28pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:



Don't worry yourself about it.

Worry for the salvation of your soul...

Jesus said...

"Those that do the will of my Father"

Don't worry about the church that I attend.
Salvation from what?

I've saved myself from mental slavery. You should too.

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds- Bob Marley

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 5:33pm On Dec 21, 2018
raptex:
Salvation from what?

I've saved myself from mental slavery. You should too.

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds- Bob Marley

Bob Marley will be hiding his face from God's throne on the judgement day.....if he did not accept Christ..

He won't even have time for his loved ones...

It is his quote you want me to believe?

Ha.

Freedom is in Jesus.

Demons make you think you have freedom, whereas you are in bondage....

They simply keep you in bondage through deception... ALL WITH YOUR CONSENT.

A church in the scriptures said....I lack nothing and I am rich...

Jesus on the throne told them,

You are Unclad, poor, blind and miserable.

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Re: My Journey To Freethinking by budaatum: 5:42pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:


Did you see one of your champions admits that

"he masturbates all day?"....

and he got five likes as at when I checked?
And this " your champion", was op right, or one of the five likes was ops? Or are you just assuming that's what atheists do all day?

Raptex, did you tell kalokalo you mastubate all day?
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by budaatum: 5:44pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:


I am not here to win anyone over.

I preach, and quote the Bible.
Is, 'living the Bible', irrelevant to you then?
Re: My Journey To Freethinking by Originakalokalo(m): 5:50pm On Dec 21, 2018
budaatum:

Is, 'living the Bible', irrelevant to you then?


This is the Bible...

Let me show you what it says...


(Mark 16 )
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15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Where did the Bible say that I should win them over?

Preach.... You believe.... You are saved....

Preach.... You don't believe... You are dammed.

See another .....

" And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. "
(Matthew 10: 14)


Jesus told Paul, Get out of Jerusalem.....

They won't hear you.

He didn't say....

Stay and win them over.

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