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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Agritech(m): 5:10pm On Dec 25, 2018
Afonjas:



That's Jihadists sign, Buhari wants to modify it and then Islamize Nigeria

These types of campaigns contributed to the loss of Jonathan. You expect Muslims in the core north to vote Atiku by insulting their religion?

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Indispensable85: 5:11pm On Dec 25, 2018
Johnnyessence:
you are so clueless in your thought here. all the candidates i support always win. isn't shameful to you and your party when you forcefully used the police and other military personnel to rigged the election, and at the end the court annuled the election and declared the duelly winner of the contest the crown. is that not shameful to rigger. you will be disappointed with this your rigging plans that you and your Apc party are embarking upon.

Everyone knows you on this platform my guy.You're a specialist in failure,you usually abscond 4 a moment after each defeat, from Edo to Ondo,to Ekiti to osun gov elections and to bauchi,katsina, kwara by-elections.Hope you won't go AWOL after 2019 elections?

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Johnnyessence(m): 5:24pm On Dec 25, 2018
Indispensable85:


Everyone knows you on this platform my guy.You're a specialist in failure,you usually abscond 4 a moment after each defeat, from Edo to Ondo,to Ekiti to osun gov elections and to bauchi,katsina, kwara by-elections.Hope you won't go AWOL after 2019 elections?
everyone knows me cos' i stand for justice. 4 years is enough to test buhari government. in all, buhari has failed Nigeria people in all his 4 years.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by buharitill2023: 6:11pm On Dec 25, 2018
Johnnyessence:
everyone knows me cos' i stand for justice. 4 years is enough to test buhari government. in all, buhari has failed Nigeria people in all his 4 years.
and pdp for 16yrs,
the only achievement of pdp for 16yrs is the mismanagement of our $1.1tr .

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by arabbunkum: 6:28pm On Dec 25, 2018
[quote author=BafanaBafana post=74154463]Pdp supporters are resting assured that pdp have used fulani herdsmen to capture Benue. Politics is local. I have had cause to be in the three senatorial zones in Benue and from the feelers I have gotten, I don't see Atiku winning.
First of all, Benue people traditionaly don't play the religion card, save for the few who grew up in the core north. They are not daft and can not be decieved easily. The propaganda that Buhari is behind Fulani herdsmen attacks doesn't fly with a lot of people, except those who are pdp apologists. As a matter of fact, people will whisper to you that Ortom is responsible for most of the killings. If you know about Aminu Tashaku, you will understand.
Next is the Ortom factor. Ortom has dealt mercilessly with Benue civil servants and pensioneers. They don't want to hear his name or anything he is associated with. You know the pain when you are not being paid, the governor says there is no money but you see his aides building new houses and buying new cars. Ortom plans to buy his way through to the government house, but the APC is ready for him.
Thirdly, they know who Atiku is, his fraudulent personality and criminal tendencies. It was Atiku who sold off Benue cement company. We know what we enjoyed when that company was in the ownership of the fg. Benue is not a place where they worship criminals.
Now these ain't my personal opinions. It is the feelers I got from people in Benue. My assessment of the situation is that pdp will not win in Benue. [/quote]

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by adelacuna(m): 6:50pm On Dec 25, 2018
if APC win in benue state, then they should not blame anyone for their challenge.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by BafanaBafana: 7:23pm On Dec 25, 2018
adelacuna:
if APC win in benue state, then they should not blame anyone for their challenge.
Farmer herdsmen crisis has been there for over 20 years, it got media attention when Buhari became president. Furthermore, no government has made efforts to resolve the crisis like Buhari's government has done. So APC is more of a solution than a problem.

And you should stop making political gains out of people's pains.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by adelacuna(m): 7:30pm On Dec 25, 2018
BafanaBafana:

Farmer herdsmen crisis has been there for over 20 years, it got media attention when Buhari became president. Furthermore, no government has made efforts to resolve the crisis like Buhari's government has done. So APC is more of a solution than a problem.

And you should stop making political gains out of people's pains.
Really this really shows your level of maturity I didn't mention anything specifically to make you think I want to score any political point, we have a lot of challenges going on in the country not limited to benue alone, we are faced with the problem of bad leadership, very high rate of unemployment and insecurity to mention but a few, for me I don't see any sane person getting cool with that.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by BafanaBafana: 7:38pm On Dec 25, 2018
adelacuna:

Really this really shows your level of maturity I didn't mention anything specifically to make you think I want to score any political point, we have a lot of challenges going on in the country not limited to benue alone, we are faced with the problem of bad leadership, very high rate of unemployment and insecurity to mention but a few, for me I don't see any sane person getting cool with that.
So we should go back and vote in the very people who created this problems?

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by adelacuna(m): 7:56pm On Dec 25, 2018
BafanaBafana:

So we should go back and vote in the very people who created this problems?
Who you vote for is entirely your decision but like I said let's try as much as possible vote for the people that knows what they are doing.
Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Ray97: 8:00pm On Dec 25, 2018
Hey hey. Me i dnt knw about atiku o. But ortom wil find it hard to win. Look at the money he made noise on radio that he will pay b4 xmas, he has not payed poo. Infact my mum had to collect 5 chickens on credit 4 this xmas. My dad on the other hand retired last year and not a single pention allowance has been payed... Ortom claimed likes of akume was the reason why he couldnt pay salaries. Akume is no more disturbing again ortom cant still pay salaries.. If not for this ASUU strike i dnt knw how i will pay my school fees and rent now. Ortom na scam abeg.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Johnnyessence(m): 8:07pm On Dec 25, 2018
buharitill2023:
and pdp for 16yrs, the only achievement of pdp for 16yrs is the mismanagement of our $1.1tr .
split for us and let us read it here.
Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by adem30: 8:11pm On Dec 25, 2018
Johnnyessence:
your epistles is nothing is rubbish. benue people will never votes for fulani herdsmen terrorists anchor. buhari will never get any votes in benue state. by january next year, the will be marking a year of fulani herdsmen killings. benue state is pdp.

You forget that Atiku is more Fulani than Buhari?

You forgot that Buhari does not have heardsmen because he practice ranches, why Atiku has herdsmen across the country ?

Not everyone is daft like you

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by nwanyionitsha: 9:22pm On Dec 25, 2018
35824L:
Iboes will be surprised how APC will sweep Benue. When it comes to politics, benue people never align with the slaves from the east. Apart from that Ortom has also performed way below expectation.
Caliphate slaves on the lose.
Abeg go sight moon.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Kyase(m): 9:31pm On Dec 25, 2018
BafanaBafana:
Pdp supporters are resting assured that pdp have used fulani herdsmen to capture Benue. Politics is local. I have had cause to be in the three senatorial zones in Benue and from the feelers I have gotten, I don't see Atiku winning.
First of all, Benue people traditionaly don't play the religion card, save for the few who grew up in the core north. They are not daft and can not be decieved easily. The propaganda that Buhari is behind Fulani herdsmen attacks doesn't fly with a lot of people, except those who are pdp apologists. As a matter of fact, people will whisper to you that Ortom is responsible for most of the killings. If you know about Aminu Tashaku, you will understand.
Next is the Ortom factor. Ortom has dealt mercilessly with Benue civil servants and pensioneers. They don't want to hear his name or anything he is associated with. You know the pain when you are not being paid, the governor says there is no money but you see his aides building new houses and buying new cars. Ortom plans to buy his way through to the government house, but the APC is ready for him.
Thirdly, they know who Atiku is, his fraudulent personality and criminal tendencies. It was Atiku who sold off Benue cement company. We know what we enjoyed when that company was in the ownership of the fg. Benue is not a place where they worship criminals.
Now these ain't my personal opinions. It is the feelers I got from people in Benue. My assessment of the situation is that pdp will not win in Benue.
You got it right, prior to the convention in port, most of my neighbors were pro pdp, but immediately Atiku bought the ticket, all of them ported to ApC....
Secondly, the pensioners here in Benue can die for Buhari....
Since Buhari came into power, he has been treating them excellently well, the pensioners association here in gboko are pro Buhari, in fact since 2016 , they keep getting Christmas present from Buhari, in fact my father this year na cow head and lap e get for this Christmas grin

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Agritech(m): 10:40pm On Dec 25, 2018
adelacuna:
if APC win in benue state, then they should not blame anyone for their challenge.

Let me tell you why even if PDP wins there would still be critics.

According to minister of Agriculture, Nigeria slaughters 90,000 cows daily ( Lagos alone slaughters 6000 to 8000 cows daily)
if you multiply by number of days in a year 90,000 * 365 = 33 million cows.

33 millon cows are slaughtered in Nigeria yearly

If you take a conservative price of 100k per cow. The Revenue from cow would be 100,000* 33,000,000 = 3.3trillion naira.

Yes 3.3 trillion naira.

who owns those cows? Top rich people like Atiku and they would do anything to protect their business.

Now tell me how Atiku would stop those cows from feeding in the middle belt?

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by rexwalters: 11:48pm On Dec 25, 2018
Bluezy13:
Hmmm...




The statue above me says it all.
They will draw a portrait of you in that position come February 2019,your tormentation hasn't started yet.
Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by rexwalters: 11:52pm On Dec 25, 2018
adem30:


You forget that Atiku is more Fulani than Buhari?

You forgot that Buhari does not have heardsmen because he practice ranches, why Atiku has herdsmen across the country ?

Not everyone is daft like you
Pdp malus they want to remove one fulani for another fulani? una try, power is coming south east or south west in 2023.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by rexwalters: 11:56pm On Dec 25, 2018
Agritech:


Let me tell you why even if PDP wins there would still be critics.

According to minister of Agriculture, Nigeria slaughters 90,000 cows daily ( Lagos alone slaughters 6000 to 8000 cows daily)
if you multiply by number of days in a year 90,000 * 365 = 33 million cows.

33 millon cows are slaughtered in Nigeria yearly

If you take a conservative price of 100k per cow. The Revenue from cow would be 100,000* 33,000,000 = 3.3trillion naira.

Yes 3.3 trillion naira, more than revenue from crude oil.

who owns those cows? Top rich people like Atiku and they would do anything to protect their business.

Now tell me how Atiku would stop does cows from feeding in the middle belt?

Wicked fellow citizens,no love for their Brothers,the FG has begged the states to give the herdsmen land for grazing in accordance with the provisions of the Land use act 1978 they refused,then they will turn around and blame Buhari when fighting breaks out yet they all eat cow meat?

Hypocrites tell them to take another look at the 200 Naira note,don't you see cows,along side cocoa and ground nut as indigenous businesses?

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by asuustrike1: 12:03am On Dec 26, 2018
BafanaBafana:
Pdp supporters are resting assured that pdp have used fulani herdsmen to capture Benue. Politics is local. I have had cause to be in the three senatorial zones in Benue and from the feelers I have gotten, I don't see Atiku winning.
First of all, Benue people traditionaly don't play the religion card, save for the few who grew up in the core north. They are not daft and can not be decieved easily. The propaganda that Buhari is behind Fulani herdsmen attacks doesn't fly with a lot of people, except those who are pdp apologists. As a matter of fact, people will whisper to you that Ortom is responsible for most of the killings. If you know about Aminu Tashaku, you will understand.
Next is the Ortom factor. Ortom has dealt mercilessly with Benue civil servants and pensioneers. They don't want to hear his name or anything he is associated with. You know the pain when you are not being paid, the governor says there is no money but you see his aides building new houses and buying new cars. Ortom plans to buy his way through to the government house, but the APC is ready for him.
Thirdly, they know who Atiku is, his fraudulent personality and criminal tendencies. It was Atiku who sold off Benue cement company. We know what we enjoyed when that company was in the ownership of the fg. Benue is not a place where they worship criminals.
Now these ain't my personal opinions. It is the feelers I got from people in Benue. My assessment of the situation is that pdp will not win in Benue.
Am sure you wouldn't say all these if Orton was in APC.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by asuustrike1: 12:06am On Dec 26, 2018
Johnnyessence:
Godforbid.
What is God forbidden? Get your PVC and vote the right man
Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by rexwalters: 12:08am On Dec 26, 2018
Johnnyessence:
your epistles is nothing is rubbish. benue people will never votes for fulani herdsmen terrorists anchor. buhari will never get any votes in benue state. by january next year, the will be marking a year of fulani herdsmen killings. benue state is pdp.
You are correct because I'm sure atiku is an ijaw man who has no cattle & is not fulani and can't be as guilty as President Buhari or Miyetti allah?
Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Agritech(m): 12:11am On Dec 26, 2018
rexwalters:
Wicked fellow citizens the FG has begged the states to give the herdsmen land for grazing in accordance with the provisions of the Land use act 1978 they refused,then they will turn around and blame Buhari when fighting breaks out yet they all eat cow meat?Hypocrites.

I do not go with the FG plan of giving Southern land to Herdsmen. The model won't work. Countries like Brazil, USA and Russia that allocate land for grazing, allocate land many times the size of the entire Nigeria. Russia for example allocate lands that is 14 times the size of Nigeria for grazing. The truth is the don't have the land for that model.

Herds men moving cows about is obsolete. We need to borrow the European and Indian model of keeping large amount of cows in a small piece of land. Owners of cows need to take responsibility of purchasing land and building facilities to take care of their cows just as poultry farmers build facilities for their birds.

You can't ask my village to donate large expanse of land to other people to be making money from it.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by rexwalters: 12:12am On Dec 26, 2018
asuustrike1:

Am sure you wouldn't say all these if Orton was in APC.
is that not why he ran from Apc to pdp?he did not want to hear the truth?
Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by rexwalters: 12:23am On Dec 26, 2018
Agritech:


I do not go with the FG plan of giving Southern land to Herdsmen. The model won't work. Countries like Brazil, USA and Russia that allocate land for grazing, allocate land many times the size of the entire Nigeria. Russia for example allocate lands that is 14 times the size of Nigeria for grazing. The truth is the don't have the land for that model.

Herds men moving cows about is obsolete. We need to borrow the European and Indian model of keeping large amount of cows in a small piece of land. Owners of cows need to take responsibility of purchasing land and building facilities to take care of their cows just as poultry farmers build facilities for their birds.

You can't ask my village to donate large expanse of land to other people to be making money from it.
So when you arrest a man with herds for wandering,where do you keep the cattle while he is in court?if not the same reserves the Governors who for political reasons have refused to allocate,nobody ever said free,grazing is under the Land Use Act which is under the full jurisdiction of the State Governors and he sets the price of how much we pay for land,no more than 500 hectares for farming per person,unless for grazing purposes,it's his sole prerogative.

The problem with most Nigerians they haven't read the laws of the Federation of Nigeria and mostly talk from their ignorance. Grazing is a private business that by law is regulated by the various states not the Federal Government,agriculture is in the hands of the various States not the Federal Government or did any of the herdsmen register their cattle with the Corporate Affairs Commission?

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Agritech(m): 12:41am On Dec 26, 2018
rexwalters:
So when you arrest a man with herds,where do you keep the cattle while he is in court?if not the same reserves the Governors who for political reasons have refused to allocate,nobody ever said free,grazing is under the Land Use Act which is under the full jurisdiction of the State Governors and he sets the price of how much we pay for land,no more than 500 hectares for farming per person,unless for grazing purposes,it's his sole prerogative.

The problem with most Nigerians they haven't read the laws of the Federation of Nigeria and mostly talk from their ignorance. Grazing is a private business that by law is regulated by the various states not the Federal Government,agriculture is in the hands of the various States not the Federal Government.

The population of Nigeria in 1979 when law was was enacted was 70 million. Presently, we are about 200 million people. by 2050 UN has projected we would be the 3rd most populated country in the word with a population of 398 million people. Also the land mass of the south is tiny compare to that of the north. Very soon the land in southern Nigeria would not be enough for its indigenes. We haven't even factor in climate change.

Tell me if you are a governor of a southern state would you be allocating land to Fulani herds men knowing these?

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by rexwalters: 12:53am On Dec 26, 2018
Agritech:


The population of Nigeria in 1979 when law was was enacted was 70 million. Presently, we are about 200 million people. by 2050 UN has projected we would be the 3rd most populated country in the word with a population of 398 million people. Also the land mass of the south is tiny compare to that of the north. Very soon the land in southern Nigeria would not be enough for its indigenes. We haven't even factor in climate change.

Tell me if you are a governor of a southern state would you be allocating land to Fulani herds men knowing these?
You have a comprehension problem how many herdsmen are in southern Nigeria,is the green savannah region of Nigeria in the south?go and sleep,stop playing smart and not been clever.

Hypocrite if you are really against herdsmen stop eating cow meat,they would gracefully disappear,you can't patronize people then turn around to criticize them,how many people do you know breed pigs in Northern Nigeria?

After the 2019 elections they will all get on board and allocate land for grazing and reseves,it is their constitutional duty,they don't have a choice.

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by Indispensable85: 1:08am On Dec 26, 2018
Johnnyessence:
everyone knows me cos' i stand for justice. 4 years is enough to test buhari government. in all, buhari has failed Nigeria people in all his 4 years.

16yrs was certainly not enough to test pdp abi?
Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by deomelllo: 1:11am On Dec 26, 2018
Osinbajo in Benue... grin

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Re: If You Think Atiku Will Win Benue, Think Again by QuotaSystem: 3:31am On Dec 26, 2018
Indispensable85:


Everyone knows you Johnnyessence on this platform my guy.You're a specialist in failure,you usually abscond 4 a moment after each defeat, from Edo to Ondo,to Ekiti to osun gov elections and to bauchi,katsina, kwara by-elections.Hope you won't go AWOL after 2019 elections?

You really know the guy grin

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